Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
Michael Süssner wrote: I have the problem with every object even the one from the examples (Apple). I have instantiated an NSObject from the IB Library and then I've tried to add an outlet. Still, no outlet section in the inspector (identity). Perhaps I'm misreading, but I suspect that Michael is using old documentation and has missed the important point of item #2 in Matt's original reply. In recent versions of the dev tools, you create outlets and actions in Xcode (in your header, in code) and IB automatically sees them. There is no mechanism in the current version of the tools for defining outlets and actions in IB; only for assigning them. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Gregory Weston wrote: There is no mechanism in the current version of the tools for defining outlets and actions in IB; only for assigning them. I don't believe this statement is true, if I understand your point correctly. Here's how to create an outlet or an action in IB 3.2 and write it back to your source files. You can also create wholly new classes this way. 1. In any of your project's nib files, go to the Library window (not the Inspector window) and select the Classes tab. Using the pop-up menu at the top, select one of your project's classes in the very long and awkward hierarchical menu. For example, your class MyDocument would appear in the menu under NSDocument if it inherits from NSDocument. 2. In the bottom pane, select the Outlets or Actions tab. 3. Near the bottom of the window, click the Add (+) button. Type a name for the new outlet or action and a return type (which should be void for actions). 4. At the bottom of the window, use the Action button and choose Write Updated Class Files. 5. In the dialog that comes up, choose to save the file to the original name for the implementation file. 6. In the warning alert that comes up to tell you that file already exists, choose Replace to incorporate your new outlet or action in the existing file, or Merge to bring up FileMerge and give yourself a chance to accept or reject individual changes. 7. Lock at your header file. The new outlet or action is right there. (The setter and getter methods or properties for outlets are not produced by this technique, however.) Look at your implementation file. If you created an action, a stub method definition appears. Is this less than what you used to be able to do in IB? To the best of my memory, it gives you more control over what is produced. -- Bill Cheeseman b...@cheeseman.name ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
1. In any of your project's nib files, go to the Library window (not the Inspector window) and select the Classes tab. Using the pop-up menu at the top, select one of your project's classes in the very long and awkward hierarchical menu. For example, your class MyDocument would appear in the menu under NSDocument if it inherits from NSDocument. You don't have to use the pop-up at all (Bill, based upon your description here, are you seeing the flat list of classes in the middle of the classes tab?). There are three fast ways to use the Classes tab: The fastest way is to use the search field at the bottom of the Library window. If you use Command-Option-F, then the library appears and the search field takes focus. I typically always have the Classes tab up since I can not only instantiate any class with it into my document, but I can also see the lineage for the class, see where it is defined, and of course add actions and outlets. If you are working in the design canvas and want to add an action or outlet to a class, select the instance of the class you want to add the outlet or action to and then use Command-Option-Right-Arrow to quickly reveal that class in the classes tab. In the list of classes in the Classes tab, you can use type selection to quickly jump to a class. For example, NSApp jumps to NSApplication. Now as for the motivation for putting the outlets and actions into the Classes tab, here is a response I just put on xcode-users: I wonder why the outlet/action UI was moved there … This is all the more confusing because you *can* add outlets to First Responder in the Identity inspector. The actions and outlets were moved to the Library for the following reason: actions and outlets live on classes, not instances of classes. The Classes tab represents all of the classes you can use in your Interface Builder document, these come from your Xcode project, from frameworks you've linked against, from manually added headers, from plugins, and from the document itself (by setting the custom class on an object, setting the type of an outlet/action, or using the new Subclass menu item in the Classes tab). With this universal list of classes, it makes sense to edit the class itself. Now First Responder is an interesting item. First Responder is itself not a class, so it does not make sense to put it in the Classes tab. In Cocoa, First Responder really acts like an instance. The actions for First Responder are attributes for it, and that is why they live in the Attributes inspector for First Responder. I hope that clears some of that up… Kevin On 23 Sep 2009, at 08:26, Bill Cheeseman wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Gregory Weston wrote: There is no mechanism in the current version of the tools for defining outlets and actions in IB; only for assigning them. I don't believe this statement is true, if I understand your point correctly. Here's how to create an outlet or an action in IB 3.2 and write it back to your source files. You can also create wholly new classes this way. 1. In any of your project's nib files, go to the Library window (not the Inspector window) and select the Classes tab. Using the pop-up menu at the top, select one of your project's classes in the very long and awkward hierarchical menu. For example, your class MyDocument would appear in the menu under NSDocument if it inherits from NSDocument. 2. In the bottom pane, select the Outlets or Actions tab. 3. Near the bottom of the window, click the Add (+) button. Type a name for the new outlet or action and a return type (which should be void for actions). 4. At the bottom of the window, use the Action button and choose Write Updated Class Files. 5. In the dialog that comes up, choose to save the file to the original name for the implementation file. 6. In the warning alert that comes up to tell you that file already exists, choose Replace to incorporate your new outlet or action in the existing file, or Merge to bring up FileMerge and give yourself a chance to accept or reject individual changes. 7. Lock at your header file. The new outlet or action is right there. (The setter and getter methods or properties for outlets are not produced by this technique, however.) Look at your implementation file. If you created an action, a stub method definition appears. Is this less than what you used to be able to do in IB? To the best of my memory, it gives you more control over what is produced. -- Bill Cheeseman b...@cheeseman.name ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Kevin Cathey wrote: You don't have to use the pop-up at all (Bill, based upon your description here, are you seeing the flat list of classes in the middle of the classes tab?). There are three fast ways to use the Classes tab: I'm a mouse person, so I tend to overlook keyboard solutions. It would be nice if the Classes pop-up had an alphabetical option, or defaulted to alphabetical. The way it is now, I have to remember that the base class (after NSObject) for NSWindowController is NSResponder, for example. That's easy, but others are decidedly not easy to remember. By the way, I notice that the pop-up becomes an outline view if you drag the divider below it downward. Very cute. -- Bill Cheeseman b...@cheeseman.name ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
Bill Cheeseman corrected/educated me: On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Gregory Weston wrote: There is no mechanism in the current version of the tools for defining outlets and actions in IB; only for assigning them. I don't believe this statement is true, if I understand your point correctly. Here's how to create an outlet or an action in IB 3.2 and write it back to your source files. You can also create wholly new classes this way. 1. In any of your project's nib files, go to the Library window (not the Inspector window) and select the Classes tab. Using the pop-up menu at the top, select one of your project's classes in the very long and awkward hierarchical menu. For example, your class MyDocument would appear in the menu under NSDocument if it inherits from NSDocument. You know what? I had never noticed that. I still think the OP is confused, though, about where he was supposed to be looking for things. Is this less than what you used to be able to do in IB? To the best of my memory, it gives you more control over what is produced. Offhand, I don't think it's more or less functionality or control than I remember. But at least for me it was less obvious. I switched over to defining things by hand when 3.0 came out because I found it easier. Or perhaps I should say more easily. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
When I select an object in IB, the inspector does not display the outlet/action section. Is this a bug? I have installed Xcode on another computer and experienced the same behaviour. I am using Xcode3.2 and snow leopard. Any help? Michael ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Michael Süssner michael.suess...@utanet.at wrote: When I select an object in IB, the inspector does not display the outlet/action section. Did you remember to click the Outlet inspector? g If so, I would definitely consider that to be a bug. Makes IB kinda useless. See if right-clicking on things produces the popup outlet inspector HUD thingy, to use the technical term. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:57:14 +0200, Michael S?ssner michael.suess...@utanet.at said: When I select an object in IB, the inspector does not display the outlet/action section. Is this a bug? I have installed Xcode on another computer and experienced the same behaviour. I am using Xcode3.2 and snow leopard. (1) This is an Xcode question, not a Cocoa question, and belongs on the Xcode list. (2) Select *how*? Single-clicking an object in IB does not change what the inspector shows; it is up to you to navigate the inspector. Double-clicking an object in IB does not bring up a dialog where you can create outlets and actions, as it did in earlier versions; instead, you create outlets and actions in Xcode (in your header, in code) and IB automatically sees them. m. -- matt neuburg, phd = m...@tidbits.com, http://www.tidbits.com/matt/ A fool + a tool + an autorelease pool = cool! AppleScript: the Definitive Guide - Second Edition! http://www.tidbits.com/matt/default.html#applescriptthings ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
Yeah, I also thought that the Xcode mailing list is the right one. But the list seams to be a little bit inactive. I wanted to know if anyone else has detected the same behaviour. To clarify, I have opened the identity view in the inspector panel and it does not display the add outlet/action section after I have selected an object. :-( g Michael Am 22.09.2009 um 19:25 schrieb Matt Neuburg: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:57:14 +0200, Michael S?ssner michael.suess...@utanet.at said: When I select an object in IB, the inspector does not display the outlet/action section. Is this a bug? I have installed Xcode on another computer and experienced the same behaviour. I am using Xcode3.2 and snow leopard. (1) This is an Xcode question, not a Cocoa question, and belongs on the Xcode list. (2) Select *how*? Single-clicking an object in IB does not change what the inspector shows; it is up to you to navigate the inspector. Double- clicking an object in IB does not bring up a dialog where you can create outlets and actions, as it did in earlier versions; instead, you create outlets and actions in Xcode (in your header, in code) and IB automatically sees them. m. -- matt neuburg, phd = m...@tidbits.com, http://www.tidbits.com/matt/ A fool + a tool + an autorelease pool = cool! AppleScript: the Definitive Guide - Second Edition! http://www.tidbits.com/matt/default.html#applescriptthings Mit freundlichem Gruß Michael Süssner Dipl.-Ing. Wimbergergasse 10-44 1070 Wien Tel: +43 (1) 5268251 Mobil: +43 (676) 7955229 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
Are you having this problem with all objects or only instances of your own class? Did you use IBOutlet when you declared the outlets? Maybe you could show us your header file. Does it help if you force IB to re-read your header with File - Read Class Files...? --Andy On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Michael Süssner michael.suess...@utanet.at wrote: Yeah, I also thought that the Xcode mailing list is the right one. But the list seams to be a little bit inactive. I wanted to know if anyone else has detected the same behaviour. To clarify, I have opened the identity view in the inspector panel and it does not display the add outlet/action section after I have selected an object. :-( g Michael Am 22.09.2009 um 19:25 schrieb Matt Neuburg: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:57:14 +0200, Michael S?ssner michael.suess...@utanet.at said: When I select an object in IB, the inspector does not display the outlet/action section. Is this a bug? I have installed Xcode on another computer and experienced the same behaviour. I am using Xcode3.2 and snow leopard. (1) This is an Xcode question, not a Cocoa question, and belongs on the Xcode list. (2) Select *how*? Single-clicking an object in IB does not change what the inspector shows; it is up to you to navigate the inspector. Double- clicking an object in IB does not bring up a dialog where you can create outlets and actions, as it did in earlier versions; instead, you create outlets and actions in Xcode (in your header, in code) and IB automatically sees them. m. -- matt neuburg, phd = m...@tidbits.com, http://www.tidbits.com/matt/ A fool + a tool + an autorelease pool = cool! AppleScript: the Definitive Guide - Second Edition! http://www.tidbits.com/matt/default.html#applescriptthings Mit freundlichem Gruß Michael Süssner Dipl.-Ing. Wimbergergasse 10-44 1070 Wien Tel: +43 (1) 5268251 Mobil: +43 (676) 7955229 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/aglee%40mac.com This email sent to ag...@mac.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Michael Süssner wrote: I have opened the identity view in the inspector panel and it does not display the add outlet/action section after I have selected an object. In IB 3.2, this functionality was moved to the Library window. In the Library window, select the Classes tab, then in the bottom pane select the Outlets or Actions tab. -- Bill Cheeseman b...@cheeseman.name ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Michael Süssner michael.suess...@utanet.at wrote: Yeah, I also thought that the Xcode mailing list is the right one. But the list seams to be a little bit inactive. Which xcode list you looking at? I see tens of emails a day on the Xcode list. This is the list you want... http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/xcode-users -Shawn ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: IB does not show Outlet/Action section in inspector
I have the problem with every object even the one from the examples (Apple). I have instantiated an NSObject from the IB Library and then I've tried to add an outlet. Still, no outlet section in the inspector (identity). g Michael Am 22.09.2009 um 23:23 schrieb Andy Lee: Are you having this problem with all objects or only instances of your own class? Did you use IBOutlet when you declared the outlets? Maybe you could show us your header file. Does it help if you force IB to re-read your header with File - Read Class Files...? --Andy On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Michael Süssner michael.suess...@utanet.at wrote: Yeah, I also thought that the Xcode mailing list is the right one. But the list seams to be a little bit inactive. I wanted to know if anyone else has detected the same behaviour. To clarify, I have opened the identity view in the inspector panel and it does not display the add outlet/action section after I have selected an object. :-( g Michael Am 22.09.2009 um 19:25 schrieb Matt Neuburg: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:57:14 +0200, Michael S?ssner michael.suess...@utanet.at said: When I select an object in IB, the inspector does not display the outlet/action section. Is this a bug? I have installed Xcode on another computer and experienced the same behaviour. I am using Xcode3.2 and snow leopard. (1) This is an Xcode question, not a Cocoa question, and belongs on the Xcode list. (2) Select *how*? Single-clicking an object in IB does not change what the inspector shows; it is up to you to navigate the inspector. Double- clicking an object in IB does not bring up a dialog where you can create outlets and actions, as it did in earlier versions; instead, you create outlets and actions in Xcode (in your header, in code) and IB automatically sees them. m. -- matt neuburg, phd = m...@tidbits.com, http://www.tidbits.com/matt/ A fool + a tool + an autorelease pool = cool! AppleScript: the Definitive Guide - Second Edition! http://www.tidbits.com/matt/default.html#applescriptthings Mit freundlichem Gruß Michael Süssner Dipl.-Ing. Wimbergergasse 10-44 1070 Wien Tel: +43 (1) 5268251 Mobil: +43 (676) 7955229 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/aglee%40mac.com This email sent to ag...@mac.com Mit freundlichem Gruß Michael Süssner Dipl.-Ing. Wimbergergasse 10-44 1070 Wien Tel: +43 (1) 5268251 Mobil: +43 (676) 7955229 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
