Re: Mixed Core Data and "static" nodes in outline view

2009-10-01 Thread Stamenkovic Florijan


On Sep 30, 2009, at 20:58, Rick Mann wrote:



On Sep 30, 2009, at 16:22:45, Rick Mann wrote:

I'm looking at ways of grouping some Core Data objects in a outline  
view. What I have are 3 or 4 different entities, and I want each of  
the objects of each type to appear under a parent item in the  
outline view.


Currently, I've implemented a simple table view and it's bound to  
an array controller that gets the objects from Core Data. Now I  
want to expand that same list to handle the other objects, so an  
outline view seems natural, with the top level nodes corresponding  
to the various types of entities, and the entities existing below.


Since the model doesn't have any notion of groups, I'd like to  
programmatically create the top entities, and have core data manage  
the children of each. Is this even possible?


Do you think I could create an plain Obj-C object with appropriate  
accessors to act as my grouping object, and then have it implement  
Core Data fetch operations to return the children? I don't know,  
though, how to get changes in the managed object context to be  
automatically reflected in the tree view using this technique. I'm  
sure there's some observer/key notification thing to set up, but I'm  
not very fluent in the programmatic aspects of that stuff.


I was thinking about something similar. I guess you would need to  
encapsulate an arbitrary number of NSTreeController objects in a  
custom object that behaves like an NSTreeController. I have decided  
against it thought because I am quite convinced it would be a *lot*  
more difficult to do properly (even if it is possible) then to  
implement a custom NSOutlineViewDataSource.


Still, you might be able to use NSTreeControllers as a starting point  
in your data source, which should make it easier to observe records  
being created / deleted / modified. Hm, it might be a better idea to  
use NSArrayControllers for each of your entities and observe those  
instead.


Another option is to simulate this in the GUI using a number of  
NSOutlineViews each wired separately. You would need to synchronize  
selections between them though. And you would need to deal with  
sizes / positioning manually. This might be a *bit* easier, but like  
with every hack: expect problems.


I think that your best option is to sit down, dig through the relevant  
technologies, and do it. I don't think there's an easy way to  
accomplish this.


F
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Re: Mixed Core Data and "static" nodes in outline view

2009-09-30 Thread Rick Mann


On Sep 30, 2009, at 16:22:45, Rick Mann wrote:

I'm looking at ways of grouping some Core Data objects in a outline  
view. What I have are 3 or 4 different entities, and I want each of  
the objects of each type to appear under a parent item in the  
outline view.


Currently, I've implemented a simple table view and it's bound to an  
array controller that gets the objects from Core Data. Now I want to  
expand that same list to handle the other objects, so an outline  
view seems natural, with the top level nodes corresponding to the  
various types of entities, and the entities existing below.


Since the model doesn't have any notion of groups, I'd like to  
programmatically create the top entities, and have core data manage  
the children of each. Is this even possible?


Do you think I could create an plain Obj-C object with appropriate  
accessors to act as my grouping object, and then have it implement  
Core Data fetch operations to return the children? I don't know,  
though, how to get changes in the managed object context to be  
automatically reflected in the tree view using this technique. I'm  
sure there's some observer/key notification thing to set up, but I'm  
not very fluent in the programmatic aspects of that stuff.


--
Rick


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Re: Mixed Core Data and "static" nodes in outline view

2009-09-30 Thread Rick Mann


On Sep 30, 2009, at 16:30:24, Sean McBride wrote:


On 9/30/09 4:22 PM, Rick Mann said:


I'm looking at ways of grouping some Core Data objects in a outline
view. What I have are 3 or 4 different entities, and I want each of
the objects of each type to appear under a parent item in the outline
view.

Currently, I've implemented a simple table view and it's bound to an
array controller that gets the objects from Core Data. Now I want to
expand that same list to handle the other objects, so an outline view
seems natural, with the top level nodes corresponding to the various
types of entities, and the entities existing below.


You could certainly do it without bindings and use the delgate/ 
datasoure

methods of NSOutlineView.  A bit of a PITA though.


Yeah, I was hoping to use bindings and let core data handle the bulk  
of the work. Somehow.



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Re: Mixed Core Data and "static" nodes in outline view

2009-09-30 Thread Sean McBride
On 9/30/09 4:22 PM, Rick Mann said:

>I'm looking at ways of grouping some Core Data objects in a outline
>view. What I have are 3 or 4 different entities, and I want each of
>the objects of each type to appear under a parent item in the outline
>view.
>
>Currently, I've implemented a simple table view and it's bound to an
>array controller that gets the objects from Core Data. Now I want to
>expand that same list to handle the other objects, so an outline view
>seems natural, with the top level nodes corresponding to the various
>types of entities, and the entities existing below.

You could certainly do it without bindings and use the delgate/datasoure
methods of NSOutlineView.  A bit of a PITA though.

--

Sean McBride, B. Eng s...@rogue-research.com
Rogue Researchwww.rogue-research.com
Mac Software Developer  Montréal, Québec, Canada


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Mixed Core Data and "static" nodes in outline view

2009-09-30 Thread Rick Mann
I'm looking at ways of grouping some Core Data objects in a outline  
view. What I have are 3 or 4 different entities, and I want each of  
the objects of each type to appear under a parent item in the outline  
view.


Currently, I've implemented a simple table view and it's bound to an  
array controller that gets the objects from Core Data. Now I want to  
expand that same list to handle the other objects, so an outline view  
seems natural, with the top level nodes corresponding to the various  
types of entities, and the entities existing below.


Since the model doesn't have any notion of groups, I'd like to  
programmatically create the top entities, and have core data manage  
the children of each. Is this even possible?


TIA,
Rick

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