Re: Borderless NSColorWell: bug or feature?
On Dec 28, 2008, at 1:37 AM, WT wrote: Nothing to click? What about the area inside the border, the part that shows the color the control is set to? Incidentally, I just tried clicking on the very center of a bordered color well and it did show the color panel, so it's not true that you have to click on the border to have the panel show up. You're right, I should have checked that. I agree it's unclear whether the borderless behavior is intentional. I think it should be either a documentation request or an NSColorWell bug. Besides, the border is rather small and it wouldn't make much sense to require such precise clicking when there's generally a much bigger area the user can click on to get the desired effect. I actually think the border is rather large -- certainly as easy to click as a split view's divider, although a split view gives you visual feedback when the mouse is over the divider to make it easier. The fact that a color well gives no such feedback should have been a clue that the border isn't a special area. For some reason I had thought the internal part was only for dragging color swatches. In all these years I never noticed that it brings up the color panel if you click it. --Andy Wagner On Dec 28, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Andy Lee wrote: The border is the part you click to bring up the color panel. If you take away the border, there's nothing to click. --Andy On Dec 28, 2008, at 1:10 AM, WT wrote: Hello, I just found by experimenting with NSColorWell objects that merely setting them borderless in IB disables their ability to show the color selection panel. Looking at the NSColorWell class reference document, the "Choosing Colors With Color Wells and Color Panels" document, and the "Human Interface Design" document, I could not find any mention of that fact. Why should a control's border affect the control's ability to perform its function? Is that supposed to be a feature, or is it a bug? Wagner ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Borderless NSColorWell: bug or feature?
Hi Andy, thanks for replying to my message. Nothing to click? What about the area inside the border, the part that shows the color the control is set to? Incidentally, I just tried clicking on the very center of a bordered color well and it did show the color panel, so it's not true that you have to click on the border to have the panel show up. Besides, the border is rather small and it wouldn't make much sense to require such precise clicking when there's generally a much bigger area the user can click on to get the desired effect. Wagner On Dec 28, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Andy Lee wrote: The border is the part you click to bring up the color panel. If you take away the border, there's nothing to click. --Andy On Dec 28, 2008, at 1:10 AM, WT wrote: Hello, I just found by experimenting with NSColorWell objects that merely setting them borderless in IB disables their ability to show the color selection panel. Looking at the NSColorWell class reference document, the "Choosing Colors With Color Wells and Color Panels" document, and the "Human Interface Design" document, I could not find any mention of that fact. Why should a control's border affect the control's ability to perform its function? Is that supposed to be a feature, or is it a bug? Wagner ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Borderless NSColorWell: bug or feature?
The border is the part you click to bring up the color panel. If you take away the border, there's nothing to click. --Andy On Dec 28, 2008, at 1:10 AM, WT wrote: Hello, I just found by experimenting with NSColorWell objects that merely setting them borderless in IB disables their ability to show the color selection panel. Looking at the NSColorWell class reference document, the "Choosing Colors With Color Wells and Color Panels" document, and the "Human Interface Design" document, I could not find any mention of that fact. Why should a control's border affect the control's ability to perform its function? Is that supposed to be a feature, or is it a bug? Wagner ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
