Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Scott Anguish sc...@cocoadoc.com wrote: On Sep 28, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Scott Anguish sc...@cocoadoc.com wrote: Why do it? It's easy enough to add your own. It's also easy to add them to Info.plist… it seems like an appropriate place to do so. Perhaps Apple should clarify whether adding custom keys to Info.plist is condoned. Perhaps. I honestly don't think we have a best-practices position on this. I guess I'll point you to bugreporter.apple.com, you being a good citizen and all. :-) Not that this is a guideline, but it does feel a little weird to me to see certain sorts of information in the Info.plist. To my mind, it's for information consumed by processes other than your own. -Ken ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
On Sep 28, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: Done. rdar://problem://7257097 Also notes that the same collision issue exists for user defaults, where AppKit stores window and splitter autosave information. It is unlikely that any apple framework is ever going to introduce a key of the form com.your-domain.KeyName If you define your custom Info.plist keys using reverse DNS style keys, the collision issue should become a non-issue. Jim ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Hippo Man apple.hippo...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way for me to put my own, custom key into a Cocoa application's Info.plist and have the application query that key's setting? Yes, using -[NSBundle infoDictionary]. And of course you can get the app's bundle by using +[NSBundle mainBundle]. http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/DOCUMENTATION/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/Classes/NSBundle_Class/Reference/Reference.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/2214-BCICBHBA --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/DOCUMENTATION/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/Classes/NSBundle_Class/Reference/Reference.html#//apple_ref/occ/instm/NSBundle/infoDictionary Generally one does not put custom keys in the Info.plist. You might want to consider a separate plist resource for your target and use NSBundle's pathForResource:ofType: method to query the dictionary at the resulting path. For more information see: http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/DOCUMENTATION/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/Classes/NSBundle_Class/Reference/Reference.html#//apple_ref/occ/instm/NSBundle/pathForResource:ofType: Kiel On 28/09/2009, at 1:33 PM, Hippo Man wrote: Is there a way for me to put my own, custom key into a Cocoa application's Info.plist and have the application query that key's setting? I know that I can use the dictionaryWithContentsOfFile: method of an NSDictionary to read an arbitrary, dictionary-like property list, given its pathname. However, I'm wondering if there's a way to automatically get one or more settings in the current Cocoa application's Info.plist without knowing anything about its pathname. In other words, I want to query settings from my Info.plist. Is this possible? If so, could someone point me to some docs which describe how to do this? Thanks in advance. -- HippoMan apple.hippo...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/kiel.gillard%40gmail.com This email sent to kiel.gill...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Kiel Gillard kiel.gill...@gmail.com wrote: Generally one does not put custom keys in the Info.plist. You might want to consider a separate plist resource for your target and use NSBundle's pathForResource:ofType: method to query the dictionary at the resulting path. For more information see: Come again? Info.plist is a perfectly fine place to put this information, and very many apps put custom information there. That's where Sparkle expects its configuration information. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
On 28/09/2009, at 1:47 PM, Kiel Gillard wrote: Generally one does not put custom keys in the Info.plist. Why not? As long as you're careful to ensure no conflict now or in the future with Apple's defined keys, you'll be fine (so ensure you use a key that couldn't possibly be used by Apple, such as prefixed with your name, etc - same as for any Objective-C class you create yourself in other words). I've seen plenty of third party code add keys to Info.plist, e.g. Sparkle. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
On 28/09/2009, at 2:23 PM, Graham Cox wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 1:47 PM, Kiel Gillard wrote: Generally one does not put custom keys in the Info.plist. Why not? As long as you're careful to ensure no conflict now or in the future with Apple's defined keys, you'll be fine (so ensure you use a key that couldn't possibly be used by Apple, such as prefixed with your name, etc - same as for any Objective-C class you create yourself in other words). I've seen plenty of third party code add keys to Info.plist, e.g. Sparkle. --Graham Duh. Not sure what I was thinking. Sorry, Hippo Man. Thanks for the heads up, Graham and Kyle. Kiel ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
Better question... Why do it? It's easy enough to add your own. I don't see what the issue is with just adding another. not like they're hard to read and get access to the data. On Sep 28, 2009, at 12:23 AM, Graham Cox wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 1:47 PM, Kiel Gillard wrote: Generally one does not put custom keys in the Info.plist. Why not? As long as you're careful to ensure no conflict now or in the future with Apple's defined keys, you'll be fine (so ensure you use a key that couldn't possibly be used by Apple, such as prefixed with your name, etc - same as for any Objective-C class you create yourself in other words). I've seen plenty of third party code add keys to Info.plist, e.g. Sparkle. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
Duh. Not sure what I was thinking. Sorry, Hippo Man. Thanks for the heads up, Graham and Kyle. Kiel Well, many thanks and much appreciation to all of you. This is exactly the information I was looking for, and it's good to know that there's a consensus that I _can_ put app-specific info into the Info.plist. -- Hippo Man apple.hippo...@gmail.com |.-, 0__0 | / ( oo'---, | /oo\ | ,\ | | | \,=__/ |\ / |/ /--| /| ||__|-'|__|' ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Scott Anguish sc...@cocoadoc.com wrote: Why do it? It's easy enough to add your own. It's also easy to add them to Info.plist… it seems like an appropriate place to do so. Perhaps Apple should clarify whether adding custom keys to Info.plist is condoned. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
On Sep 28, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Scott Anguish sc...@cocoadoc.com wrote: Why do it? It's easy enough to add your own. It's also easy to add them to Info.plist… it seems like an appropriate place to do so. Perhaps Apple should clarify whether adding custom keys to Info.plist is condoned. Perhaps. I honestly don't think we have a best-practices position on this. I guess I'll point you to bugreporter.apple.com, you being a good citizen and all. :-) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can an app query the values in its own Info.plist?
Done. rdar://problem://7257097 Also notes that the same collision issue exists for user defaults, where AppKit stores window and splitter autosave information. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
