Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-22 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:50 AM, em <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Does it not make sense for you to rely on Finder's built-in WebDAV
>>support?
> Absoutely not--that wouldn't make sense if I was looking for an
> objective-c framework.

The point I was trying to gently make is that if the OP is attempting
to implement WebDAV for file storage, Finder already does this, and it
may be appropriate to just delegate the WebDAV connectivity.  I
specifically mentioned the Dreamweaver example as an illustration:
Dreamweaver has a very buggy WebDAV plugin that does nothing more than
allow you to specify the "remote" site as a WebDAV share.  But you can
also specify any directory on any mounted volume, and Finder has a
much more stable WebDAV implementation, so I abandoned the WebDAV
plugin for the extra step of manually mounting the WebDAV share with
Finder.  As a side bonus I got all the functionality that comes with
mounting the share as a volume.

I'm just following the philosophy that the best code is the code you
don't have to write.

--Kyle Sluder
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Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-22 Thread Jens Alfke


On 22 Jul '08, at 4:55 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:


Does it not make sense for you to rely on Finder's built-in WebDAV
support?  Because if you can get away with it, it's great... I'm
having visions of Dreamweaver's go-it-alone attitude towards WebDAV
and how much happier I was when I could stop dealing with it by just
mounting my share in Finder.


It depends on what the OP wants to do. WebDAV isn't a file server  
protocol, even though it often gets (mis)used as one, and there are a  
lot of uses for it that don't involve accessing a filesystem. CalDAV  
is one example, and there are also schema for using WebDAV to access  
email on a server (I think Yahoo! mail supports this.)



em wrote:

Absoutely not--that wouldn't make sense if I was looking for an
objective-c framework.  And by the way, do you always answer  a
question with another question?  Isn't that bizarre?



Since you're not the original poster (nor have you contributed to this  
thread earlier) I don't see why you feel entitled to jump in with a  
decision that Kyle's answer is inappropriate for William's question.  
Your response also shows that you don't understand what Kyle is  
getting at: in some cases people do use WebDAV merely for accessing  
files on a server, in which case using the Finder would be a good  
alternative.


Answering with a question is entirely appropriate, as it politely  
indicates that your answer isn't definitive, but is providing more  
information for the original poster to come to his/her own conclusion  
with.


—Jens

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Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-22 Thread Matt Gough


On 22 Jul 2008, at 4:50pm, em wrote:


And by the way, do you always answer  a
question with another question?  Isn't that bizarre?


I don't know; is it?

(Sorry couldn't resist :) )
Matt
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Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-22 Thread em

>Does it not make sense for you to rely on Finder's built-in WebDAV 
>support?   
Absoutely not--that wouldn't make sense if I was looking for an 
objective-c framework.  And by the way, do you always answer  a 
question with another question?  Isn't that bizarre? 
-em

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Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-22 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM, William Bates
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there an objective-C webDAV framework around? I've been rolling my own (I
> only need some basic functionality) but can't image it hasn't been done
> already...

Does it not make sense for you to rely on Finder's built-in WebDAV
support?  Because if you can get away with it, it's great... I'm
having visions of Dreamweaver's go-it-alone attitude towards WebDAV
and how much happier I was when I could stop dealing with it by just
mounting my share in Finder.

--Kyle Sluder
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Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-21 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:37 PM, William Bates
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there an objective-C webDAV framework around? I've been rolling my own (I
> only need some basic functionality) but can't image it hasn't been done
> already...

ConnectionKit has basic functionality for WebDAV. And HTTP, FTP, SFTP,
.Mac and Amazon S3...

http://opensource.utr-software.com/connection/

 -- Finlay
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Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-21 Thread Matt Long
It has a lot of compiler warnings when you build it under Leopard, but  
the Connection Kit: http://opensource.utr-software.com/connection/

says it does support WebDAV.

-Matt


On Jul 21, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Abernathy, Joshua wrote:


Goliath (http://www.webdav.org/goliath/) is an open source WebDAV
client. It's pretty sucky but it might give you a start. It uses  
DAVLib

(http://www.webdav.org/goliath/davlib.html) which is really old but
again, might give you a start.

J

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Subject: Re: webDAV (lite) framework?


On 21 Jul '08, at 7:49 AM, Tony Becker wrote:


If you're Leopard only, you can look at Calendar Store:


http://developer.apple.com/documentation/AppleApplications/Conceptual/Ca
lendarStoreProgGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html

He asked about WebDAV, not CalDAV (which is a calendar-specific
protocol that happens to use WebDAV as its transport.)

I don't know of any public Obj-C framework for WebDAV, unfortunately.

-Jens
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RE: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-21 Thread Abernathy, Joshua
Goliath (http://www.webdav.org/goliath/) is an open source WebDAV
client. It's pretty sucky but it might give you a start. It uses DAVLib
(http://www.webdav.org/goliath/davlib.html) which is really old but
again, might give you a start.

J

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Subject: Re: webDAV (lite) framework?


On 21 Jul '08, at 7:49 AM, Tony Becker wrote:

> If you're Leopard only, you can look at Calendar Store:
>
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/AppleApplications/Conceptual/Ca
lendarStoreProgGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html

He asked about WebDAV, not CalDAV (which is a calendar-specific  
protocol that happens to use WebDAV as its transport.)

I don't know of any public Obj-C framework for WebDAV, unfortunately.

-Jens
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Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-21 Thread Jens Alfke


On 21 Jul '08, at 7:49 AM, Tony Becker wrote:


If you're Leopard only, you can look at Calendar Store:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/AppleApplications/Conceptual/CalendarStoreProgGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html


He asked about WebDAV, not CalDAV (which is a calendar-specific  
protocol that happens to use WebDAV as its transport.)


I don't know of any public Obj-C framework for WebDAV, unfortunately.

—Jens

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Re: webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-21 Thread Tony Becker

If you're Leopard only, you can look at Calendar Store:

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/AppleApplications/Conceptual/CalendarStoreProgGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html

On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:37 AM, William Bates wrote:

Is there an objective-C webDAV framework around? I've been rolling  
my own (I only need some basic functionality) but can't image it  
hasn't been done already...

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webDAV (lite) framework?

2008-07-21 Thread William Bates
Is there an objective-C webDAV framework around? I've been rolling my  
own (I only need some basic functionality) but can't image it hasn't  
been done already...

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