RE: [OT] Googlefight (was: RE: [ot] oscom berkeley)

2002-10-07 Thread Piroumian Konstantin

Another comparison: Cocoon vs. Struts. 

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=Cocoonq2=StrutsB1=I%27m+F
eeling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21compare=1langue=us

Result could seem amazing, knowing how popular is Struts. But after a moment
I've realized that so few searches can also indicate more visibility of the
project (I mean that Struts does not need to be searched, cause it's well
known). So returning to the Cocoon vs. Zope case, if Cocoon is searched less
than Zope this can mean also that Cocoon is easier to find by other means
(e.g. directly from Apache site).

Konstantin

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 At googlefight.com you can compare keywords - which one is 
 requested by the google users more often. I tried cocoon vs. zope ;-)
 
 http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=cocoonq2=zop
 eB1=I%27m+Fee
 ling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21compare=1langue=us
 
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Re: [OT] Googlefight (was: RE: [ot] oscom berkeley)

2002-10-07 Thread Ugo Cei

Piroumian Konstantin wrote:

 Result could seem amazing, knowing how popular is Struts. But after a moment
 I've realized that so few searches can also indicate more visibility of the
 project (I mean that Struts does not need to be searched, cause it's well
 known). So returning to the Cocoon vs. Zope case, if Cocoon is searched less
 than Zope this can mean also that Cocoon is easier to find by other means
 (e.g. directly from Apache site).
 
 Konstantin

First of all, as I've already mentioned in another message, this does 
not measure search frequency, but just the number of hits.

Second, if you look at the first page of results, you can see that for 
struts, 8 links out of 10 actually refer to JAKARTA Struts, whereas 
for cocoon, only 2 links out of 10 actually refer to APACHE Cocoon.

So, what's that you're arguing about? About something that does not 
measure what you think it measures ;-).

By the way, apache cocoon beats jakarta struts 85,100 to 29,100.
On the other hand, Amazon has 6 books about Struts (1 available) and 3 
about Cocoon (1 available).

Ugo

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RE: [OT] Googlefight (was: RE: [ot] oscom berkeley)

2002-10-07 Thread Piroumian Konstantin

 From: Ugo Cei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Piroumian Konstantin wrote:
 
  Result could seem amazing, knowing how popular is Struts. 
 But after a 
  moment I've realized that so few searches can also indicate more 
  visibility of the project (I mean that Struts does not need to be 
  searched, cause it's well known). So returning to the 
 Cocoon vs. Zope 
  case, if Cocoon is searched less than Zope this can mean also that 
  Cocoon is easier to find by other means (e.g. directly from Apache 
  site).
  
  Konstantin
 
 First of all, as I've already mentioned in another message, this does 
 not measure search frequency, but just the number of hits.

Ok.

 
 Second, if you look at the first page of results, you can see 
 that for 
 struts, 8 links out of 10 actually refer to JAKARTA Struts, whereas 
 for cocoon, only 2 links out of 10 actually refer to APACHE Cocoon.

;)

 
 So, what's that you're arguing about? About something that does not 
 measure what you think it measures ;-).

I just wanted to express the same thing as you did: these numbers doesn't
show actual interest. But maybe I wasn't so clear.

 
 By the way, apache cocoon beats jakarta struts 85,100 to 
 29,100. On the other hand, Amazon has 6 books about Struts (1 
 available) and 3 
 about Cocoon (1 available).

I will tell you why. Struts is much simpler than Cocoon and it doesn't need
more than 1 book to understand everything (joking, of course). ;)
Really, where there is so few books about Struts?

Konstantin

 
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[OT] Googlefight (was: RE: [ot] oscom berkeley)

2002-10-06 Thread Reinhard Poetz

At googlefight.com you can compare keywords - which one is requested by the
google users more often.
I tried cocoon vs. zope ;-)

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=cocoonq2=zopeB1=I%27m+Fee
ling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21compare=1langue=us

Reinhard


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Re: [OT] Googlefight (was: RE: [ot] oscom berkeley)

2002-10-06 Thread Ivelin Ivanov


Wow. Even Apache vs Zope is in favor of the latter.
How trustworthy is this source?

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 At googlefight.com you can compare keywords - which one is requested by
the
 google users more often.
 I tried cocoon vs. zope ;-)


http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=cocoonq2=zopeB1=I%27m+Fee
 ling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21compare=1langue=us

 Reinhard


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RE: [OT] Googlefight (was: RE: [ot] oscom berkeley)

2002-10-06 Thread Reinhard Poetz

 From: Ivelin Ivanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Wow. Even Apache vs Zope is in favor of the latter.
 How trustworthy is this source?

I don't know - but it's entertaining ...

Reinhard

 
 From: Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  At googlefight.com you can compare keywords - which one is requested by
 the
  google users more often.
  I tried cocoon vs. zope ;-)
 
 
 http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=cocoonq2=zopeB1
=I%27m+Fee
 ling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21compare=1langue=us

 Reinhard


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