Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

Ilya A. Kriveshko wrote:

 This seems to be the magic key -- a JVM 1.4 option to enable headless AWT:

  -Djava.awt.headless=true


FYI: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/installing/index.html has:

*UNIX with X server
...
*/Sun JDK 1.4 does not require graphics display anymore, but Java has to 
be started with the argument |-Djava.awt.headless=true|, and X libraries 
still must be installed./
*...*

Vadim


 Ilya A. Kriveshko wrote:

 quote from=JDK-1-4-release-notes
   strongHeadless support/strong is now enabled by new graphics
   environment methods that indicate whether a display, keyboard, and
   mouse can be supported in a graphics environment.
 /quote

 I wonder what they are talking about? Are you sure it doesn't work as 
 is with JDK 1.4?
 Read more at:
 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/awt/AWTChanges.html#headless

 Hope this helps
 -- 
 Ilya


 Jeff Turner wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 01:04:29PM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
  

 Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too?
   



 I don't think so; at least Debian doesn't list any X packages as a
 dependencies, and says Xvfb can be used as an aid to porting the X
 server to a new platform.

 --Jeff

  

 Bert



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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-03 Thread Ted T. Garrett II

Running tomcat's startup.sh with -Djava.awt.headless=true included in 
the JAVA_OPTS or CATALINA_OPTS variables works fine for me, but I don't 
have a machine currently installed that doesn't have the x-windows 
libraries loaded.

Running ldd on /usr/lib/java/bin/java indicates no dependencies on x 
libraries, so I'd be willing to bet you can run it this way just fine.

Bert Van Kets wrote:

 My ISP can provide me with a headless web server running Suse 7.3, 
 Resin 2.4 (I think) and JDK 1.4.  He does not want to install the X 
 libraries due to security reasons :-(
 Is there an alternative?  AFAIK pja does not run on JDK 1.4




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Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Bert Van Kets

My ISP can provide me with a headless web server running Suse 7.3, Resin 
2.4 (I think) and JDK 1.4.  He does not want to install the X libraries due 
to security reasons :-(
Is there an alternative?  AFAIK pja does not run on JDK 1.4
Thanks,
Bert

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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Jeff Turner

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 09:05:16AM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
 My ISP can provide me with a headless web server running Suse 7.3, Resin 
 2.4 (I think) and JDK 1.4.  He does not want to install the X libraries due 
 to security reasons :-(
 Is there an alternative?  AFAIK pja does not run on JDK 1.4

Xvfb (X virtual framebuffer) works nicely.

--Jeff

 Thanks,
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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Bert Van Kets

I'll take it up with my ISP, but I doubt I'll be able to persuade him to 
install Xvfb.
I guess changing to another ISP would be the best option.
Bert

At 19:31 2/10/2002 +1000, you wrote:
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 09:05:16AM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
  My ISP can provide me with a headless web server running Suse 7.3, Resin
  2.4 (I think) and JDK 1.4.  He does not want to install the X libraries 
 due
  to security reasons :-(
  Is there an alternative?  AFAIK pja does not run on JDK 1.4

Xvfb (X virtual framebuffer) works nicely.

--Jeff

  Thanks,
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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Bert Van Kets

Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too?

Bert
At 19:31 2/10/2002 +1000, you wrote:
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 09:05:16AM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
  My ISP can provide me with a headless web server running Suse 7.3, Resin
  2.4 (I think) and JDK 1.4.  He does not want to install the X libraries 
 due
  to security reasons :-(
  Is there an alternative?  AFAIK pja does not run on JDK 1.4

Xvfb (X virtual framebuffer) works nicely.

--Jeff

  Thanks,
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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Jeff Turner

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 01:04:29PM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
 Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too?

I don't think so; at least Debian doesn't list any X packages as a
dependencies, and says Xvfb can be used as an aid to porting the X
server to a new platform.

--Jeff

 Bert

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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Ilya A. Kriveshko

quote from=JDK-1-4-release-notes
   strongHeadless support/strong is now enabled by new graphics
   environment methods that indicate whether a display, keyboard, and
   mouse can be supported in a graphics environment.
/quote

I wonder what they are talking about? Are you sure it doesn't work as is 
with JDK 1.4?
Read more at:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/awt/AWTChanges.html#headless

Hope this helps
--
Ilya


Jeff Turner wrote:

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 01:04:29PM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
  

Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too?



I don't think so; at least Debian doesn't list any X packages as a
dependencies, and says Xvfb can be used as an aid to porting the X
server to a new platform.

--Jeff

  

Bert



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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Ilya A. Kriveshko

This seems to be the magic key -- a JVM 1.4 option to enable headless AWT:

  -Djava.awt.headless=true



Ilya A. Kriveshko wrote:

 quote from=JDK-1-4-release-notes
   strongHeadless support/strong is now enabled by new graphics
   environment methods that indicate whether a display, keyboard, and
   mouse can be supported in a graphics environment.
 /quote

 I wonder what they are talking about? Are you sure it doesn't work as 
 is with JDK 1.4?
 Read more at:
 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/awt/AWTChanges.html#headless

 Hope this helps
 -- 
 Ilya


 Jeff Turner wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 01:04:29PM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
  

 Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too?
   


 I don't think so; at least Debian doesn't list any X packages as a
 dependencies, and says Xvfb can be used as an aid to porting the X
 server to a new platform.

 --Jeff

  

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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Yury Mikhienko

On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:04:29 +0200
Bert Van Kets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too?
 
 Bert
Yes

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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Yury Mikhienko

On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:04:29 +0200
Bert Van Kets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too?
 
Yes
 Bert
 At 19:31 2/10/2002 +1000, you wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 09:05:16AM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:
   My ISP can provide me with a headless web server running Suse 7.3, Resin
   2.4 (I think) and JDK 1.4.  He does not want to install the X libraries 
  due
   to security reasons :-(
   Is there an alternative?  AFAIK pja does not run on JDK 1.4
 
 Xvfb (X virtual framebuffer) works nicely.
 
 --Jeff
 
   Thanks,
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Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4

2002-10-02 Thread Bert Van Kets

Now you got me confused.
Has anybody tested Cocoon with Batik on a headless system with JDK 1.4 and 
no X whatsoever?  No libraries, no Xvfb???

I guess to be sure I'll have to test it myself.  If it really works without 
the X libs or Xvfb, then we must adjust the install docs.  They suggest 
that Xvfb is still necessary.

Bert


At 09:10 2/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
This seems to be the magic key -- a JVM 1.4 option to enable headless AWT:

  -Djava.awt.headless=true



Ilya A. Kriveshko wrote:

quote from=JDK-1-4-release-notes
   strongHeadless support/strong is now enabled by new graphics
   environment methods that indicate whether a display, keyboard, and
   mouse can be supported in a graphics environment.
/quote

I wonder what they are talking about? Are you sure it doesn't work as is 
with JDK 1.4?
Read more at:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/awt/AWTChanges.html#headless

Hope this helps
--
Ilya


Jeff Turner wrote:

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 01:04:29PM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote:


Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too?



I don't think so; at least Debian doesn't list any X packages as a
dependencies, and says Xvfb can be used as an aid to porting the X
server to a new platform.

--Jeff



Bert



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