Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-27 Thread Josema Alonso
Hello again,

Ivelin, I have coded the changes and finally got it working.
The part I don't like too much is where I need to get the model in order to
add the document to the DB. Until that part everything seems to fit quite
nicely.
Remember I got the model stored in a XMLDocumentContainer and now I need the
whole model in a DOM Node or XML String in order to add it to Xindice.

This is what I did:
/**
* Add the document to the database
*/
public void addDocument() throws Exception {
  try {
//add the document to the database
XindiceManager xi = new XindiceManager();
//needs the DocumentRoot of the container
xi.add(xindiceSubCol,
((Document)(((XMLDocumentContainer)(getForm().getModel())).getValue())).getD
ocumentElement(), null);
  }
  catch (Exception e) {
getLogger().error(DOM Document could not be created, e);
throw e;
  }
}

Yeah, what a casting experience! ;-)
Maybe I'm missing somehting and there's an easier way in order to get what I
need...

I prefer to send thi to the list for review by you or anybody else and then
I'll update the Wiki howto. Once reviewed and finished maybe this will be a
candidate for the official how-to docs, what do you think?

Thanks for your help, I'm learning a lot.



- Original Message -
From: Ivelin Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]


 
   3) Override the getForm() method in the action
  Wouldn't it be enough to override the getFormModel() method?

 Yes. Your code looks good.

  Something like this:
protected Object getFormModel() {
   //to load the XML model
   Container DOMModel = null;
   Source modelSrc = null;
 //this parameter holds the name of the xml file with the empty XML
  structure
  String modelFileName = getParameters().getParameter(xmlform-model,
  null);
  if(modelFileName==null) return null;
  try {
   modelSrc = getSourceResolver().resolveURI(modelFileName);
DOMModel = new XMLDocumentContainer(new
  StreamSource(modelSrc.getInputStream()));
  return DOMModel;
}
catch ( Exception e) {
  throw new CascadingRuntimeException(  Failed instantiating form
  model , e );
}
finally {
  getSourceResolver().release(modelSrc);
}
}
 
   4) Use the JXPath DOMContainer to load the xml file(constant)
  I have used XMLDocumentContainer. I see there's a DocumentContainer but
 only
  present in JXPath 1.1 alpha and the jar file is still not included in
  Cocoon, so I used the soon to be deprecated mentioned.
  Btw, how could I extract a DOMNode from the root or an XML String so I
 could
  store the whole structure afterwards? I see in 1.1alpha I could do
 something
  like 'DocumentContainer.MODEL_DOM' but I guess in 1.0 I should get a
  JXPathContext and search for the root node so I can get the String I
need.
  Am I right?

 Absolutely. On all counts.

 
   5) Use the DOMContainer object as the Form model
  Ok. But where should I store it? In a separate file like the ArtistBean
I
  got before?
  Or maybe would be enough to declare it and initialize it in the
getForm()
 or
  getFormModel() method?

 Should do.

 
   6) When you need to reference a node in the model, instead of using
the
  DOM
   API, you can directly use XPath,
   like this: getForm().getValue(/@id)
  At this stage I can only see the form and when trying to access the
model
 I
  get the following exception: 'Cannot setValue of an object that is not
 some
  other object's property/child'

 I am not sure why that is. Look at the source of the XMLFormTransformer
and
 see how it uses the Form.getValue() to access properties referenced via
 ref attributes in an XMLForm source document.

 
  Sorry about all the questions but this is totally new for me and it is
not
  easy.

 Not a problem at all. I have been looking for a good XML data model  db
 example for a long time.
 You are getting up to speed very fast.



 Cheers,


 Ivelin




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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-27 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
 Ivelin, I have coded the changes and finally got it working.
 The part I don't like too much is where I need to get the model in order
to
 add the document to the DB. Until that part everything seems to fit quite
 nicely.
 Remember I got the model stored in a XMLDocumentContainer and now I need
the
 whole model in a DOM Node or XML String in order to add it to Xindice.

I understand. It looks like you've been in a really good mood to get this
casting to work ;)
I suggest emailing the JXPath lead Dmirti for ideas, his email is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 This is what I did:
 /**
 * Add the document to the database
 */
 public void addDocument() throws Exception {
   try {
 //add the document to the database
 XindiceManager xi = new XindiceManager();
 //needs the DocumentRoot of the container
 xi.add(xindiceSubCol,

((Document)(((XMLDocumentContainer)(getForm().getModel())).getValue())).getD
 ocumentElement(), null);
   }
   catch (Exception e) {
 getLogger().error(DOM Document could not be created, e);
 throw e;
   }
 }

 Yeah, what a casting experience! ;-)
 Maybe I'm missing somehting and there's an easier way in order to get what
I
 need...

 I prefer to send thi to the list for review by you or anybody else and
then
 I'll update the Wiki howto. Once reviewed and finished maybe this will be
a
 candidate for the official how-to docs, what do you think?

Go ahead. This will be a nice addition to the samples and how-tos.


Ivelin




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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-27 Thread Josema Alonso
 I understand. It looks like you've been in a really good mood to get this
 casting to work ;)
Yeah! ;-)

 I suggest emailing the JXPath lead Dmirti for ideas, his email is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm sending email to him.

 Go ahead. This will be a nice addition to the samples and how-tos.
Great. Since I'm not sure of what to do, I'll read the docs on how to submit
first, but it'd be easier for me if I could update the wiki page and let you
or other to commit it. I'm more or less comfortable using the wiki but not
quite when it comes to Forrest...

Well, I'll see what Dimitri has to say and I'll post again.



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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-27 Thread Josema Alonso
Ivelin,

I got reply from Dmitri. I'm copying it below. Unfortunately I was right and
there's not better way of making it with Containers other that the casting I
proposed. Maybe when updating to 1.1.

I'll rewrite the how-to tomorrow if I can find a couple hours and put it in
the Wiki so you could see it all. If you feel it's ok, then we'll talk about
how to make it available for the official docs, ok?

Thanks for your help.


- Original Message -
From: Dmitri Plotnikov
To: Josema Alonso
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: please help about a problem using JXPath Containers in Cocoon


 Josema,

 I think your solution is fine with JXPath 1.0, despite all the type
 casts.

 With JXPath 1.1 I could recommend this to extract the document element:

 Element root = (Element)context.getPointer(/*).getNode();

 Unfortunately the getNode() method was not introduced until after 1.0
 was released.  If you call getValue(), the Element is converted to
 string by stripping all tags and keeping all textual contents - that's
 not what you need.

 - Dmitri



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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-25 Thread Ivelin Ivanov

  3) Override the getForm() method in the action
 Wouldn't it be enough to override the getFormModel() method?

Yes. Your code looks good.

 Something like this:
   protected Object getFormModel() {
  //to load the XML model
  Container DOMModel = null;
  Source modelSrc = null;
//this parameter holds the name of the xml file with the empty XML
 structure
 String modelFileName = getParameters().getParameter(xmlform-model,
 null);
 if(modelFileName==null) return null;
 try {
  modelSrc = getSourceResolver().resolveURI(modelFileName);
   DOMModel = new XMLDocumentContainer(new
 StreamSource(modelSrc.getInputStream()));
 return DOMModel;
   }
   catch ( Exception e) {
 throw new CascadingRuntimeException(  Failed instantiating form
 model , e );
   }
   finally {
 getSourceResolver().release(modelSrc);
   }
   }

  4) Use the JXPath DOMContainer to load the xml file(constant)
 I have used XMLDocumentContainer. I see there's a DocumentContainer but
only
 present in JXPath 1.1 alpha and the jar file is still not included in
 Cocoon, so I used the soon to be deprecated mentioned.
 Btw, how could I extract a DOMNode from the root or an XML String so I
could
 store the whole structure afterwards? I see in 1.1alpha I could do
something
 like 'DocumentContainer.MODEL_DOM' but I guess in 1.0 I should get a
 JXPathContext and search for the root node so I can get the String I need.
 Am I right?

Absolutely. On all counts.


  5) Use the DOMContainer object as the Form model
 Ok. But where should I store it? In a separate file like the ArtistBean I
 got before?
 Or maybe would be enough to declare it and initialize it in the getForm()
or
 getFormModel() method?

Should do.


  6) When you need to reference a node in the model, instead of using the
 DOM
  API, you can directly use XPath,
  like this: getForm().getValue(/@id)
 At this stage I can only see the form and when trying to access the model
I
 get the following exception: 'Cannot setValue of an object that is not
some
 other object's property/child'

I am not sure why that is. Look at the source of the XMLFormTransformer and
see how it uses the Form.getValue() to access properties referenced via
ref attributes in an XMLForm source document.


 Sorry about all the questions but this is totally new for me and it is not
 easy.

Not a problem at all. I have been looking for a good XML data model  db
example for a long time.
You are getting up to speed very fast.



Cheers,


Ivelin




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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-24 Thread Josema Alonso
Ivelin,

I'm trying to code your suggestions but I have problems and some doubts.

 1) You can remove ArtistBean altogether
Done.

 2) Store the empty id structure in a static file or local constant
Done.

 3) Override the getForm() method in the action
Wouldn't it be enough to override the getFormModel() method?
Something like this:
  protected Object getFormModel() {
 //to load the XML model
 Container DOMModel = null;
 Source modelSrc = null;
   //this parameter holds the name of the xml file with the empty XML
structure
String modelFileName = getParameters().getParameter(xmlform-model,
null);
if(modelFileName==null) return null;
try {
 modelSrc = getSourceResolver().resolveURI(modelFileName);
  DOMModel = new XMLDocumentContainer(new
StreamSource(modelSrc.getInputStream()));
return DOMModel;
  }
  catch ( Exception e) {
throw new CascadingRuntimeException(  Failed instantiating form
model , e );
  }
  finally {
getSourceResolver().release(modelSrc);
  }
  }

 4) Use the JXPath DOMContainer to load the xml file(constant)
I have used XMLDocumentContainer. I see there's a DocumentContainer but only
present in JXPath 1.1 alpha and the jar file is still not included in
Cocoon, so I used the soon to be deprecated mentioned.
Btw, how could I extract a DOMNode from the root or an XML String so I could
store the whole structure afterwards? I see in 1.1alpha I could do something
like 'DocumentContainer.MODEL_DOM' but I guess in 1.0 I should get a
JXPathContext and search for the root node so I can get the String I need.
Am I right?

 5) Use the DOMContainer object as the Form model
Ok. But where should I store it? In a separate file like the ArtistBean I
got before?
Or maybe would be enough to declare it and initialize it in the getForm() or
getFormModel() method?

 6) When you need to reference a node in the model, instead of using the
DOM
 API, you can directly use XPath,
 like this: getForm().getValue(/@id)
At this stage I can only see the form and when trying to access the model I
get the following exception: 'Cannot setValue of an object that is not some
other object's property/child'

Sorry about all the questions but this is totally new for me and it is not
easy.

Best.





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RE: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-23 Thread Josema Alonso
Ouch...I forgot to include the URL. I'm sorry.

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XMLFormXindice

Thanks :)

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Enviado el: jueves, 23 de enero de 2003 4:24
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]



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RE: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-23 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi!

I strongly believe in XForms, but the sample you pointed show that the use
with Java Beans for DB connectivity and data validation is currently too
complex. I am thinking in what will happen if every form will be code like
the example in a huge application? What about changes in the large DB
application?

Can a generator build the Java Beans automatically what about the Action
automatically generated? Maybe we can find the answer in this area.

Please dont take this email in the wrong sense. I know this is a very new
technology and you are doing your best effort to get it run under Cocoon.

But maybe we can find another way to make it easier.

If this is the currently way to work with the XForms with Db connectivity.
I think many people will stay at the current model:

XML Form + stylesheet + validation form + DB modular actions.

Maybe we can find something similar.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

P.D: I know this is a cruel critic to the current work developed in this
area. But I think it must to be told. Please dont take me bad. I strongly
believe in Cocoon.


Sorry

Josema Alonso dijo:
 Ouch...I forgot to include the URL. I'm sorry.

 http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XMLFormXindice

 Thanks :)

 -Mensaje original-
 De: Ivelin Ivanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Enviado el: jueves, 23 de enero de 2003 4:24
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]



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RE: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-23 Thread Josema Alonso
Hello.

First of all, thanks for commenting on this.
Comments inline...


I strongly believe in XForms, but the sample you pointed show that the use
with Java Beans for DB connectivity and data validation is currently too
complex. I am thinking in what will happen if every form will be code like
the example in a huge application? What about changes in the large DB
application?
I know. I'm with you. It is a pain to code everything like this, but I
really prefer to code logic in Java and not in XML. After all you finally
build a MVC miniapp this way.

Can a generator build the Java Beans automatically what about the Action
automatically generated? Maybe we can find the answer in this area.
I think that's the way to go. There was some talk on this list a while ago
but we need more work on this.

Please dont take this email in the wrong sense. I know this is a very new
technology and you are doing your best effort to get it run under Cocoon.
Of course, I do not :-)
It's very instructive.

But maybe we can find another way to make it easier.
I hope so.

I think many people will stay at the current model:
XML Form + stylesheet + validation form + DB modular actions.
I proposed different approaches in my conclusions. Another one would be to
have modular DB actions for Xindice-like databases. But that would not solve
the problem.
Maybe a totally different approach would be needed.

I do not like my solution that much, but this is the simple one I've found
by now. I think we need to start working on it putting things out of the
Action and maybe later out of the model.
I've been thinking about some XML descriptors that could build the Action
and Bean autmatically and/or maybe a transformation phase after that for the
DB actions...I'm not sure...I should learn more to accomplish something like
that...

Again, thanks for your comments. I really appreciate them.

Best.


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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-23 Thread Ivelin Ivanov


 Hi!

 I strongly believe in XForms, but the sample you pointed show that the use
 with Java Beans for DB connectivity and data validation is currently too
 complex.

I would argue that it is no more complex than doing the same with Struts.
Let alone plain JSP and classic controller Servlets.

 I am thinking in what will happen if every form will be code like
 the example in a huge application? What about changes in the large DB
 application?

I guess the sample is supposed to focus on showing how to use XMLForm with
Xindice.
If it is not making it clear that this is the one message it sends, then the
text should be revised.


 Can a generator build the Java Beans automatically what about the Action
 automatically generated? Maybe we can find the answer in this area.

Let's try to find it.
Josema proposed an answer in the XML db area.
We need another brave soul (maybe Antonio :) to show relational db usage.


Ivelin


 Please dont take this email in the wrong sense. I know this is a very new
 technology and you are doing your best effort to get it run under Cocoon.

 But maybe we can find another way to make it easier.

 If this is the currently way to work with the XForms with Db connectivity.
 I think many people will stay at the current model:

 XML Form + stylesheet + validation form + DB modular actions.

 Maybe we can find something similar.

 Best Regards,

 Antonio Gallardo.

 P.D: I know this is a cruel critic to the current work developed in this
 area. But I think it must to be told. Please dont take me bad. I strongly
 believe in Cocoon.


 Sorry

 Josema Alonso dijo:
  Ouch...I forgot to include the URL. I'm sorry.
 
  http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XMLFormXindice
 
  Thanks :)
 
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  Enviado el: jueves, 23 de enero de 2003 4:24
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  Asunto: Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]
 
 
 
  What is the URL?
 
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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-23 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Excelent document.

I would like to suggest a slight improvement.
The Model part can be improved quite a bit if you use a DOM object directly
instead of a JavaBean wrapper.

more specificly:

1) You can remove ArtistBean altogether
2) Store the empty id structure in a static file or local constant
3) Override the getForm() method in the action
4) Use the JXPath DOMContainer to load the xml file(constant)
5) Use the DOMContainer object as the Form model
6) When you need to reference a node in the model, instead of using the DOM
API, you can directly use XPath,
like this: getForm().getValue(/@id)


If you follow these steps and I am not totally wrong, you should be able to
cut about 50 lines from the sample.


-=Ivelin=-

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:42 AM
Subject: RE: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]


 Ouch...I forgot to include the URL. I'm sorry.

 http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XMLFormXindice

 Thanks :)

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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-23 Thread Josema Alonso
 Excelent document.
Thank you.

 I would like to suggest a slight improvement.
 The Model part can be improved quite a bit if you use a DOM object
directly
 instead of a JavaBean wrapper.
 more specificly:
 ...
Wow. It sounds very very good. I really need to learn much more about
JXPath.
I'll try to code it this weekend or early next week and update the Wiki
accordingly.

I'll post my results and/or doubts here, too.

Thanks a lot for your help.



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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-23 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi, I think that Xforms will be mainy used for web DB app.

I am using this opensource tool that can be extended to build other
formats from an database design. His name is Druid you can find it at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/druid

I  can said that I already build my postgresql database using this
excelent tool.


Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

Josema Alonso dijo:
 Excelent document.
 Thank you.

 I would like to suggest a slight improvement.
 The Model part can be improved quite a bit if you use a DOM object
 directly
 instead of a JavaBean wrapper.
 more specificly:
 ...
 Wow. It sounds very very good. I really need to learn much more about
 JXPath.
 I'll try to code it this weekend or early next week and update the Wiki
 accordingly.

 I'll post my results and/or doubts here, too.

 Thanks a lot for your help.



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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

2003-01-22 Thread Ivelin Ivanov

What is the URL?

-=Ivelin=-
- Original Message -
From: Josema Alonso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cocoon-Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:18 PM
Subject: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]


 Hi, all.

 Ivelin, I should have done it a long while ago, but it was not possible
for
 me until this day.
 I added a HowTo on using Xindice with XMLForms. I tried to use the easiest
 possible way. I hope I had not too many faults.
 Please review it and comment it if you want.

 Hope it could be useful.

 Best.

 ps: I used the Wiki since it was a lot easier for me, but you can put it
 wherever you think is better.



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