Re: ideal hardware for cocoon?

2003-02-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman

As Peter hints, there is no limit on how much you can spend on your ideal 
production environment.

50,000 CaffeinMark Java CPU (byte codes in silicon) with XML parsing hardware 
accelerator (similar to a NVidia chip) would be a good start. Then make that 
into an array of 1, each with a Gig of memory, and you are in a good 
position...

Price tag for the above; Give me 12-18 months and $10-15million, and I'll make 
it happen.  ;o)

Niclas

On Wednesday 12 February 2003 23:02, caleb racey wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> We are going to be setting up a dedicated cocoon server soon and I am
> trying to spec out the hardware. The operating system will be redhat (8
> probably) and tomcat will be the servlet engine.
>
> Does anyone have any experiences of what hardware balance is right for
> cocoon? I know this is stupid question with no concrete answer as it
> depends on what the server will be doing, loading, etc. etc. etc.
>
> Having said all this what balance would you go for when buying a cocoon
> server? Would you go for single processor (2.6ghz) machine with lots of
> memory (4-6gig) or a dual processor machine (2 x 2.6ghz) with less
> memory (2gig).
>
> My searching of the cocoon, tomcat, and FOP lists hasn't really given me
> any good feel for optimum hardware configuration. I'm hoping someone has
> some experience.
>
> The cocoon server is mainly going to be serving FOP based
> transformations, xml (xhtml) to PDF and xml to svg to png.  As much
> static content as possible will be served from a dedicated apache http
> server so this machine will only be doing dynamic xml transformations.
> Some of these might get quite large, our present record is xhmtl to 206
> pages of pdf.
>
> Again I appreciate that optimum hardware should be reached by careful
> study of what us it is going to be put to, but we are just starting out
> seriously on the cocoon route so don't have the experience to know
> exactly how it will be used.
>
>
> Caleb Racey
> Webteam
> University Computer Service
> University of Newcastle
> tel 0191 222 5916
>
>
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RE: ideal hardware for cocoon?

2003-02-12 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
> 
> We are going to be setting up a dedicated cocoon server soon 
> and I am trying to spec out the hardware. The operating 
> system will be redhat (8
> probably) and tomcat will be the servlet engine.
> 
> Does anyone have any experiences of what hardware balance is 
> right for cocoon? 

As much as you can afford... :-)

>I know this is stupid question with no 
> concrete answer as it depends on what the server will be 
> doing, loading, etc. etc. etc.
> 
> The cocoon server is mainly going to be serving FOP based 
> transformations, xml (xhtml) to PDF and xml to svg to png.  

Given that it sounds like as much memory as you can afford will help...

> As much static content as possible will be served from a 
> dedicated apache http server so this machine will only be 
> doing dynamic xml transformations. Some of these might get 
> quite large, our present record is xhmtl to 206 pages of pdf.

Yep, definitely going to need memory.

As you've stated there is no answer to this question.

Here we have Cocoon serving a lot of very dynamic content.  Dev development
is 2 Dell 2650's: dual Xeon processors, RAID 5, 1GB memory.  One runs Oracle
DB other runs Jboss/Tomcat/Cocoon.  Production will be Quad Xeon processor
with 4GB memory for DB and multiple 2650's (or similar) for JBoss and Tomcat
with more memory.  We expect to support a couple 100 users. Lots' of
hardware for a small user base, but the problem is hard to solve and
hardware is cheaper than people time for this particular problem...


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