Re: URGENT help needed:from all Cocoonites

2001-07-24 Thread Peter Royal

At 09:23 PM 7/23/2001 -0700, you wrote:
1)Can I bundle Cocoon with our company product and
sell it ?

Yes. Be sure to read http://xml.apache.org/dist/LICENSE.txt though.

2)Can I develop applications using Cocoon and make
money ?

I don't know, can you? :) If you make a good application that people want 
to buy, cocoon won't stop you!

3)How can I be assured that Ill get support if I get
into some problem while working with Cocoon ?
MY ANSWER: there is this mailing list which helps you
24hrs a day unlike those companies which charge you
HUGE amounts,this is free peer-peer support.

As it was mentioned before, you aren't guaranteed anything from this list. 
If you have a problem on a weekend for instance, you are probably less 
likely to get an immediate response as i'm sure some folks only read the 
list at the office.

4)Which version of Cocoon should i use in my company ?
MY ANSWER:Use Cocoon 1.8.2 bcoz there are many who
have used this and people have exhausted all the
possible problems with 1.8.2 and so quick help is
easily available from the cocoon-archives.

I'd recommend cocoon2. That is where all the development effort is going 
and some really interesting work is being done there. Depends on the 
projected lifetime of your project.

5)Can anyone suggest other possible questions?Some of
you might have already delivered seminars on Cocoon.

the Why use cocoon question. I got that here from the phb's.

6)Where is Cocoon heading towards ?Does such
technologies get recognition from the W3c.org and  be
declared as Standards ?Can I say that Cocoon would
soon be declared a Standard?

probably not. I think cocoon lets you easily operate on your 
standards-compliant-xml data, and makes its pretty easy to inter operate 
with other systems via xml, but it isn't really a standard in and of itself.

7)Did anyone do any work using Cocoon+VoiceXml  ?

I have not, but it is on the board as something to do down the road.

8)Are there any competing frameworks to Cocoon ?I
couldnt find any on Google.

There is AxKit (http://axkit.org) which is similar to cocoon1 but in perl. 
I believe somebody posted about a similar java toolkit here in the past, 
check the archives.

9)Does anyone of you have slides which I can use as
reference,apart from the slides that I make ?

There are some slides on the cocoon2 site that a developer from HP made 
that gives a high level overview of cocoon2.

hope this helps :)
-peter

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RE: URGENT help needed:from all Cocoonites

2001-07-24 Thread Paul Nock

3)How can I be assured that Ill get support if I get
into some problem while working with Cocoon ?
MY ANSWER: there is this mailing list which helps you
24hrs a day unlike those companies which charge you
HUGE amounts,this is free peer-peer support.

Well, you can't. This is always Big Software's argument against open source.
The thing is though you do have the source code. This isn't necessarily for
everyone, but it's a very good advantage for a competent IT department.
We've had at least 2 cases where we've been able to fix things to work how
we wanted to without:
1. waiting weeks or months for Big Software Corp. to agree that it's a
problem
2. waiting weeks or months for Big Software Corp. to fix the problem

So, in our case actually paying money for the support would actually have
been worse than just fixing the problem.

4)Which version of Cocoon should i use in my company ?
MY ANSWER:Use Cocoon 1.8.2 bcoz there are many who
have used this and people have exhausted all the
possible problems with 1.8.2 and so quick help is
easily available from the cocoon-archives.

We use 1.8.3.

7)Did anyone do any work using Cocoon+VoiceXml  ?

Yes. Works very well.


Paul


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