Re: Woody textareas?

2003-07-01 Thread Marc Portier


Nathaniel Alfred wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Simon Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2003 20:04
...

Cocoon's form handling is (imho) it's weakest area at present 
although 
it is rapidly improving with the interplay between flow and xmlform.
...

Simon

Luke Penca wrote:

Are textareas implemented in Woody yet?  I cannot find 
anything in the (oh so sparse) documentation.

Furthermore, has anyone used Woody extensively yet?  (I 
know, I know, it's alpha at this point but I need some 
serious forms handling.)  Should I be considering Xforms 
instead?  Who got some experience getting their hands 
bloodied with forms in Cocoon?  I'm ever anxious to find out.
...

Luke.


I've just started prototyping with Woody and I think it is a
diamond in the raw.  Finally a form handling package that does
not require you to write a bean class or Cocoon action for
every little form!
I think it can even get better: just made a posting on cocoon-dev 
on how we could have it working for binding to a bean class as 
well :-)

Coming to the original question:  There is no special textarea widget
but you can emulate it easily by a field widget with styling:
wt:widget id=question
  xhtml:textarea rows=5 cols=30
wrap=physical/
/wt:widget
yep.

which is then transformed into HTML as:

xsl:template match=wi:field[wi:styling/xhtml:textarea]
  xhtml:textarea name=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
xsl:apply-templates select=wi:styling/xhtml:textarea/@*/
xsl:choose
  xsl:when test=wi:value != ''
xsl:value-of select=wi:value/
  /xsl:when
  xsl:otherwise
xsl:value-of select='#160;'/
  /xsl:otherwise
/xsl:choose
  /xhtml:textarea
/xsl:template
HTH, ALfred.
nice angle of attack,
(you might want to add a call-template to add the 'wi:validation' 
section to the show)

care to share this as a patch?
(it's the surest way to start cutting the diamond out of the raw 
stone :-))

regards,
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Woody textareas?

2003-06-30 Thread Luke Penca
Are textareas implemented in Woody yet?  I cannot find anything in the (oh so sparse) 
documentation.

Furthermore, has anyone used Woody extensively yet?  (I know, I know, it's alpha at 
this point but I need some serious forms handling.)  Should I be considering Xforms 
instead?  Who got some experience getting their hands bloodied with forms in Cocoon?  
I'm ever anxious to find out.

Thanks in advance,

Luke.
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Re: Woody textareas?

2003-06-30 Thread Steven Noels
On 30/06/2003 18:58 Luke Penca wrote:

Are textareas implemented in Woody yet?  I cannot find anything in
the (oh so sparse) documentation.
Have you checked with http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Woody ?

It's not fully up to date, but that  tracking CVS commit messages might
help you already.
Furthermore, has anyone used Woody extensively yet?  (I know, I know,
it's alpha at this point but I need some serious forms handling.)
Should I be considering Xforms instead?  Who got some experience
getting their hands bloodied with forms in Cocoon?  I'm ever anxious
to find out.
I jotted down already some of the background of Woody's genesis over
here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=105491414614553w=2
So its feature list is in active expansion, and it has been created to 
be extensively used and actively supported.

HTH,

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Re: Woody textareas?

2003-06-30 Thread Simon Price
Cocoon's form handling is (imho) it's weakest area at present although 
it is rapidly improving with the interplay between flow and xmlform.

Unless your app is simple, I'd recommend not wasting time on the simple 
form validator and db actions. Pure xmlforms where you end up writing 
java code for each form is elegant but time consuming. I've not looked 
in detail at woody.

However, I'd strongly recommend that you take a look at the petstore 
sample. This uses javascript as the interface to the persistence layer 
part of your model and (to my taste) a really easy to understand but 
flexible logic layer in a separate javascript file. The sample has 
switchable view layers that can be velocity/xslt/jxpath/jsomethingelse. 
The velocity vesion is very clean and easy to read (but there again, I 
used to be an assembler programmer!). Use is made of xmlform - with 
validation done in either schematron and/or javascript.

Cheers

Simon

Luke Penca wrote:
Are textareas implemented in Woody yet?  I cannot find anything in the (oh so sparse) documentation.

Furthermore, has anyone used Woody extensively yet?  (I know, I know, it's alpha at this point but I need some serious forms handling.)  Should I be considering Xforms instead?  Who got some experience getting their hands bloodied with forms in Cocoon?  I'm ever anxious to find out.

Thanks in advance,

Luke.



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RE: Woody textareas?

2003-06-30 Thread Nathaniel Alfred
 -Original Message-
 From: Simon Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Montag, 30. Juni 2003 20:04
...
 Cocoon's form handling is (imho) it's weakest area at present 
 although 
 it is rapidly improving with the interplay between flow and xmlform.
...
 Simon
 
 Luke Penca wrote:
  Are textareas implemented in Woody yet?  I cannot find 
 anything in the (oh so sparse) documentation.
  
  Furthermore, has anyone used Woody extensively yet?  (I 
 know, I know, it's alpha at this point but I need some 
 serious forms handling.)  Should I be considering Xforms 
 instead?  Who got some experience getting their hands 
 bloodied with forms in Cocoon?  I'm ever anxious to find out.
...
  Luke.

I've just started prototyping with Woody and I think it is a
diamond in the raw.  Finally a form handling package that does
not require you to write a bean class or Cocoon action for
every little form!

Coming to the original question:  There is no special textarea widget
but you can emulate it easily by a field widget with styling:

wt:widget id=question
  xhtml:textarea rows=5 cols=30
wrap=physical/
/wt:widget

which is then transformed into HTML as:

xsl:template match=wi:field[wi:styling/xhtml:textarea]
  xhtml:textarea name=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
xsl:apply-templates select=wi:styling/xhtml:textarea/@*/
xsl:choose
  xsl:when test=wi:value != ''
xsl:value-of select=wi:value/
  /xsl:when
  xsl:otherwise
xsl:value-of select='#160;'/
  /xsl:otherwise
/xsl:choose
  /xhtml:textarea
/xsl:template

HTH, ALfred.

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Re: woody date extension

2003-06-23 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 14:46, Frank Taffelt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i have a form which contains 2 fields with date entries (ex.:'17.06.2003
 13:55'). What are the steps to get woody to:
 
 * validate the values against a given dateformat ex. dd.MM. HH:mm
 * to say in a assertion rule that date2 must be greater than date1
 (date1,date2 are the formfields)
 
 do i have to create a new Woody Datatype or a new ValidationRule for
 Datatype String ?
 

The best way would be to create a new datatype, at least if you're
interested in getting/setting the value of that widget as a Date object.
Otherwise a validationrule for strings (e.g. a regexp-based rule) might
be sufficient.

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Woody

2003-06-23 Thread Scherler, Thorsten
Title: Woody






Hello group,

I am looking for some information of and experience with woody.

I had a look @ the wikki and I find it very usefull but I would like some use-cases.

I am planning to the following with it:

In my thesis a friend and I develop a web based consulting system. We use a highly structured method. The core elements of the method are based on more or less standardised questionnaires. This questionnaire has to be answered for different category groups and from different parties. 

We use the 9 elements of Porters value chain as category groups (I wrote this for better understanding, only). So the same questionnaire has to be used for 9 different categories. That means the questionnaire has to be highly reusable. 

After the questionnaire has been answered we have to use business logic to get the result. This result has to be finally write into a database.

I think woody is doing that but what is the main advantage in comparison with e.g. struts.

I know this are just some basic information about what we are planning to do but maybe it is enough to get some input from the group.

If somebody have experience with the use of woody please let me know.

King Regards

/Thorsten

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Thorsten Scherler






woody date extension

2003-06-20 Thread Frank Taffelt
Hi,

i have a form which contains 2 fields with date entries (ex.:'17.06.2003
13:55'). What are the steps to get woody to:

* validate the values against a given dateformat ex. dd.MM. HH:mm
* to say in a assertion rule that date2 must be greater than date1
(date1,date2 are the formfields)

do i have to create a new Woody Datatype or a new ValidationRule for
Datatype String ?

thanks in advance
Frank



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generating woody forms without xml-definition

2003-06-04 Thread andi
Hi,

I'd like to use the woody form framework, but as the
forms i want to create base on data from a database i
thought about creating the FormDefinition inside my
javacode (transformer). this seems more performant
than dynamically creating the xml-definiton for the
form which is then dom-parsed and turned in a
formdefinition ...

anyone any ideas ?!

thanks.

andi


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