Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread John Fereira

Phil Cryer wrote:

On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 09:21 -0600, Binkley, Peter wrote:

Note that having said Fedora, you're only half-way there: you still need
a front end. Fez is popular, but Muradora was very well spoken of at
RIRI last week (http://vre.upei.ca/riri/), and UPEI is doing very
interesting work putting Drupal in front of Fedora (they're planning to
release code shortly, having been distracted over the summer by an
impromptu ILS migration that cost them 5 whole weeks - honestly, you
wonder what these people do all day). Muradora's future was in doubt for
a while due to reorganization of the development team, but the most
recent word is that it will continue to be developed.


The open-ness of Fedora, and it's lack of a front end, has been a hurdle
for many to overcome before adoption, but from what I saw at RIRI last
week, the work the UPEI staff is doing is very nice, leveraging Drupal,
which is a great app.  Richard Green (Univ of Hull) was big on promoting
Muradora with examples and current posts from the dev group that they
are going to continue.  I'd like to see them target Fedora 3.0 and
release that soon, same to be said about Fez, who have working 3.0 bids
in svn currently.  


What I've taken away from RIRI is that Fedora-commons is ready for
business on the backend, but needs search, acl and front-ends plugged
in, and will for some time.  One of my ideas is get Solr running with FC
(something we failed to get accomplished at RIRI) and then build a front
end that just looks at Solr.  I'm sure there's more to it, but I'm going
to start looking, thanks for the Open collections link, I already heard
back from them, they're integrating Solr now, and will be working on a
fedora-commons plugin next year...


It's worth noting that Fedora Commons and DSpace are now officially 
collaborating.  Chances are that the the DSpace Manakin UI could sit on 
top of Fedora services.  Much of the work that is going on is in 
providing functionality such that Fedora will be an *Institutional* 
repository, not just a web site for presenting a collection of a couple 
hundred digital objects for a unit library.


While I haven't worked with Alfresco I know one of the core developers 
and have done some development using a JCR-170 content repository (the 
standard that Alfresco uses and it's really flexible.


[CODE4LIB] Job Posting: Senior Developer, Columbia University Library Center for Digital Research and Scholarship

2008-08-22 Thread Jack Donovan

Hi,

We have a Developer position open at Columbia University Library's  
Center for Digital Research and Scholarship.


Position Title: Senior Developer

The Center for Digital Research and Scholarship (CDRS)
[http://cdrs.columbia.edu/] at Columbia University seeks a Senior
Developer to help implement its online platform and applications. CDRS
serves the digital research and scholarly communication needs of
faculty, graduate students, and scholars through the innovative
creation and implementation of online tools and services.

Working in a multi-host and heterogeneous application environment with
the Fedora repository software at its core, the Senior Developer will  
code, integrate, and maintain services and applications that support  
digital object ingest, preservation, search, discovery, distribution,  
and presentation. The position requires the design, implementation,  
testing, and documentation of custom software applications; the  
integration and extension of various open-source solutions; and the  
manipulation of large metadata sets. This position reports to the Lead  
Developer.


Requirements:
- Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or equivalent required; advanced
degree desirable
- 3-5 years of related experience required, with a minimum of 2 years of
Java experience highly preferred and experience with other programming
languages, such as PHP, Python, or Ruby also highly desirable
- Extensive experience with XML technologies; experience with XQuery and
XML schemas highly preferred
- Extensive experience with relational databases, database design, and
fluency in SQL strongly desired
- Strong Java skills and object-oriented design experience, including
knowledge of core libraries, Servlets, JDBC
- Extensive familiarity with the Unix/Linux environment

Preferred:
- Experience with Web services technologies (SOAP/WSDL)
- Experience with the Fedora repository software and issues related to
knowledge representation and management
- Experience with Apache Web server and Tomcat application server
- Knowledge of RESTful architectures and HTTP
- Familiarity with existing tools and standards of the semantic Web
(RDF, OWL, triplestores)

Columbia offers a competitive benefits package that includes 26 days of
paid vacation and a tuition exemption for employees (graduate and
undergraduate) and their qualified family members (undergraduate only).

Applicants must apply via:
http://jobs.columbia.edu/applicants/Central?quickFind=112188

Please include salary requirements in cover letter.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Phil Cryer
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 09:21 -0600, Binkley, Peter wrote:
> Note that having said Fedora, you're only half-way there: you still need
> a front end. Fez is popular, but Muradora was very well spoken of at
> RIRI last week (http://vre.upei.ca/riri/), and UPEI is doing very
> interesting work putting Drupal in front of Fedora (they're planning to
> release code shortly, having been distracted over the summer by an
> impromptu ILS migration that cost them 5 whole weeks - honestly, you
> wonder what these people do all day). Muradora's future was in doubt for
> a while due to reorganization of the development team, but the most
> recent word is that it will continue to be developed.

The open-ness of Fedora, and it's lack of a front end, has been a hurdle
for many to overcome before adoption, but from what I saw at RIRI last
week, the work the UPEI staff is doing is very nice, leveraging Drupal,
which is a great app.  Richard Green (Univ of Hull) was big on promoting
Muradora with examples and current posts from the dev group that they
are going to continue.  I'd like to see them target Fedora 3.0 and
release that soon, same to be said about Fez, who have working 3.0 bids
in svn currently.  

What I've taken away from RIRI is that Fedora-commons is ready for
business on the backend, but needs search, acl and front-ends plugged
in, and will for some time.  One of my ideas is get Solr running with FC
(something we failed to get accomplished at RIRI) and then build a front
end that just looks at Solr.  I'm sure there's more to it, but I'm going
to start looking, thanks for the Open collections link, I already heard
back from them, they're integrating Solr now, and will be working on a
fedora-commons plugin next year...

P

> You'll end up with very different beasts depending on what you choose,
> so you really need to list Fedora+Fez, Fedora+Muradora, etc. as separate
> options.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Edward M. Corrado
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:25 PM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I've been investigating possible solutions for the beginnings 
> > of a repository of electronic documents [1]. At this point, 
> > we have no budget, so I am only looking at Open Source 
> > options. I've identified a number of options that may meet 
> > our needs that are either advertised as institutional 
> > repository software or digital library software. Basically 
> > what I am wonder is am I missing some OSS programs that in 
> > these categories that might work for us. Software that I have 
> > identified so far that looks promising are:
> > 
> > DSpace: http://www.dspace.org/
> > Fedora: http://www.fedora-commons.org/
> > E-prints: http://www.eprints.org/
> > Greenstone: www.*greenstone*.org/
> > Kete: http://kete.net.nz/
> > Rescarta: http://www.rescarta.org/
> > 
> > 
> > I have identified some others, but rejected them because they 
> > were either experimental or appear not to be in current 
> > development. At this point we haven't really narrowed down 
> > our focus, so almost any digital library or institutional 
> > repository program would be under consideration, providing it 
> > is 1) somewhat fully developed (again, no budget), 2) 
> > somewhat easy to use and install, 3) has some level of user 
> > base, and 4) is actively being maintained. Does anyone have 
> > any suggestions for other software to investigate
> > 
> > Edward
> > 
> > [1] I'm not going to call this an institutional repository, 
> > because what 
> > I am envision is more of a hybrid of a digital library and 
> > institutional 
> > repository. I'd be less vague, but I only have a vague idea 
> > of what we want.
> > 
> > 
-- 
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www: http://mobot.org  |  latitude, longitude: 38.613877, -90.257943
email: phildotcryeratmobotdotorg  |  im googletalk/skype: phil.cryer


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Edward M. Corrado
Thanks Jade. I think I saw this one mentioned somewhere a month or so 
ago but I couldn't find it when I was searching for options.


Edward



Anderson, Jade N wrote:

You could check out Open Collection too:
http://www.opencollection.org/

My Digital Libraries class at UT chose it (over Greenstone, DSpace, and Fedora) 
to create a digital collection last semester.  It is newer but they are 
actively developing it, fixing bugs, etc.

Jade
__
Jade Anderson
Information Architect
University of Texas Libraries
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
512.495.4431



-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole Engard
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:14 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

I just learned about Alfresco yesterday:
http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Main_Page was this one that you decided
against - or is it new to you?


---

Nicole C. Engard
Open Source Evangelist, LibLime
(888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIM/Y!/Skype: nengard

http://liblime.com
http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/



On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Edward M. Corrado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hello all,

I've been investigating possible solutions for the beginnings of a
repository of electronic documents [1]. At this point, we have no budget, so
I am only looking at Open Source options. I've identified a number of
options that may meet our needs that are either advertised as institutional
repository software or digital library software. Basically what I am wonder
is am I missing some OSS programs that in these categories that might work
for us. Software that I have identified so far that looks promising are:

DSpace: http://www.dspace.org/
Fedora: http://www.fedora-commons.org/
E-prints: http://www.eprints.org/
Greenstone: www.*greenstone*.org/
Kete: http://kete.net.nz/
Rescarta: http://www.rescarta.org/


I have identified some others, but rejected them because they were either
experimental or appear not to be in current development. At this point we
haven't really narrowed down our focus, so almost any digital library or
institutional repository program would be under consideration, providing it
is 1) somewhat fully developed (again, no budget), 2) somewhat easy to use
and install, 3) has some level of user base, and 4) is actively being
maintained. Does anyone have any suggestions for other software to
investigate

Edward

[1] I'm not going to call this an institutional repository, because what I
am envision is more of a hybrid of a digital library and institutional
repository. I'd be less vague, but I only have a vague idea of what we want.




Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Ben O'Steen
If you are after a quick and easy proof of concept, that requires no
programming skill, then I would plump for EPrints.org - there's even a
debian package for it, which makes it really easy to install

2008/8/22 Edward M. Corrado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ben O'Steen wrote:
>>
>> 2008/8/22 David Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>
>>> I use EPrints, which is great.
>>>
>>> Do look out for Microsoft's offering though, which is in the pipeline.
>>>  It
>>> will be free.  Of course It will need to run on a Windows server and will
>>> be
>>> optimised for SQL Server.
>>>
>>
>> Er.. it will *only* run on the most recent SQLServer - their repo is a
>> shim on top of SQLServers native XPath handling system, as far as I
>> could make out. From talking to them, they seem to have convinced a
>> SQLServer that it is really an RDF triplestore, and have added a few
>> gui things on top.
>>
>> My actual advice to the first poster however, is that if you have no
>> resources (money and/or time) then don't bother with an IR - it will
>> require time, effort and probably money. If you feel up to putting in
>> that time and effort, then fantastic, but don't be mislead that it
>> won't suck up your time.
>>
>>
>
> I should have clarified... we have time to support and grow it, but not time
> to program it (since we don't have any programmers). Also, we plan on having
> money in the future, but we need to get something up and running now in
> order to convince the people with money to provide it to us for this
> purpose. Kind of a chicken and an egg thing.
>
> Edward
>
>
>
>> Ben O'Steen
>> Software Engineer,
>> Oxford University
>>
>>
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Kane
>>> Systems Librarian
>>> Waterford Institute of Technology
>>> http://library.wit.ie/
>>> T: ++353.51302838
>>> M: ++353.876693212
>>>
>>>
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Edward M. Corrado

Hi Nicole,

Thanks for the suggestion. I haven't seen this one before.

Edward

Nicole Engard wrote:

I just learned about Alfresco yesterday:
http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Main_Page was this one that you decided
against - or is it new to you?


---

Nicole C. Engard
Open Source Evangelist, LibLime
(888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIM/Y!/Skype: nengard

http://liblime.com
http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/



On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Edward M. Corrado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hello all,

I've been investigating possible solutions for the beginnings of a
repository of electronic documents [1]. At this point, we have no budget, so
I am only looking at Open Source options. I've identified a number of
options that may meet our needs that are either advertised as institutional
repository software or digital library software. Basically what I am wonder
is am I missing some OSS programs that in these categories that might work
for us. Software that I have identified so far that looks promising are:

DSpace: http://www.dspace.org/
Fedora: http://www.fedora-commons.org/
E-prints: http://www.eprints.org/
Greenstone: www.*greenstone*.org/
Kete: http://kete.net.nz/
Rescarta: http://www.rescarta.org/


I have identified some others, but rejected them because they were either
experimental or appear not to be in current development. At this point we
haven't really narrowed down our focus, so almost any digital library or
institutional repository program would be under consideration, providing it
is 1) somewhat fully developed (again, no budget), 2) somewhat easy to use
and install, 3) has some level of user base, and 4) is actively being
maintained. Does anyone have any suggestions for other software to
investigate

Edward

[1] I'm not going to call this an institutional repository, because what I
am envision is more of a hybrid of a digital library and institutional
repository. I'd be less vague, but I only have a vague idea of what we want.




Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Edward M. Corrado

Ben O'Steen wrote:

2008/8/22 David Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

I use EPrints, which is great.

Do look out for Microsoft's offering though, which is in the pipeline.  It
will be free.  Of course It will need to run on a Windows server and will be
optimised for SQL Server.



Er.. it will *only* run on the most recent SQLServer - their repo is a
shim on top of SQLServers native XPath handling system, as far as I
could make out. From talking to them, they seem to have convinced a
SQLServer that it is really an RDF triplestore, and have added a few
gui things on top.

My actual advice to the first poster however, is that if you have no
resources (money and/or time) then don't bother with an IR - it will
require time, effort and probably money. If you feel up to putting in
that time and effort, then fantastic, but don't be mislead that it
won't suck up your time.

  
I should have clarified... we have time to support and grow it, but not 
time to program it (since we don't have any programmers). Also, we plan 
on having money in the future, but we need to get something up and 
running now in order to convince the people with money to provide it to 
us for this purpose. Kind of a chicken and an egg thing.


Edward




Ben O'Steen
Software Engineer,
Oxford University

  

David.


--
David Kane
Systems Librarian
Waterford Institute of Technology
http://library.wit.ie/
T: ++353.51302838
M: ++353.876693212




Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Bess Sadler
Good point, Peter. Edward, it's also worth considering your  
institution's overall user experience goals. Here at UVA, we want to  
give users a single place to go, instead of having to search the  
repository and the library catalog, so the front end for our Fedora  
repository is going to be Blacklight (also open source: http:// 
blacklight.rubyforge.org), the same as the front end for our library  
catalog. You can see an example here (still in development, so be  
kind), of a search that has retrieved both a book from the catalog  
and images from our repository:


http://blacklightdev.lib.virginia.edu/catalog?q%5B%5D=Radburn

Bess

Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler
Research and Development Librarian
Digital Scholarship Services
Box 400129
Alderman Library
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22904

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(434) 243-2305


On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Binkley, Peter wrote:

Note that having said Fedora, you're only half-way there: you still  
need

a front end. Fez is popular, but Muradora was very well spoken of at
RIRI last week (http://vre.upei.ca/riri/), and UPEI is doing very
interesting work putting Drupal in front of Fedora (they're  
planning to

release code shortly, having been distracted over the summer by an
impromptu ILS migration that cost them 5 whole weeks - honestly, you
wonder what these people do all day). Muradora's future was in  
doubt for

a while due to reorganization of the development team, but the most
recent word is that it will continue to be developed.

You'll end up with very different beasts depending on what you choose,
so you really need to list Fedora+Fez, Fedora+Muradora, etc. as  
separate

options.

Peter



-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Edward M. Corrado
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:25 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

Hello all,

I've been investigating possible solutions for the beginnings
of a repository of electronic documents [1]. At this point,
we have no budget, so I am only looking at Open Source
options. I've identified a number of options that may meet
our needs that are either advertised as institutional
repository software or digital library software. Basically
what I am wonder is am I missing some OSS programs that in
these categories that might work for us. Software that I have
identified so far that looks promising are:

DSpace: http://www.dspace.org/
Fedora: http://www.fedora-commons.org/
E-prints: http://www.eprints.org/
Greenstone: www.*greenstone*.org/
Kete: http://kete.net.nz/
Rescarta: http://www.rescarta.org/


I have identified some others, but rejected them because they
were either experimental or appear not to be in current
development. At this point we haven't really narrowed down
our focus, so almost any digital library or institutional
repository program would be under consideration, providing it
is 1) somewhat fully developed (again, no budget), 2)
somewhat easy to use and install, 3) has some level of user
base, and 4) is actively being maintained. Does anyone have
any suggestions for other software to investigate

Edward

[1] I'm not going to call this an institutional repository,
because what
I am envision is more of a hybrid of a digital library and
institutional
repository. I'd be less vague, but I only have a vague idea
of what we want.




Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Binkley, Peter
Note that having said Fedora, you're only half-way there: you still need
a front end. Fez is popular, but Muradora was very well spoken of at
RIRI last week (http://vre.upei.ca/riri/), and UPEI is doing very
interesting work putting Drupal in front of Fedora (they're planning to
release code shortly, having been distracted over the summer by an
impromptu ILS migration that cost them 5 whole weeks - honestly, you
wonder what these people do all day). Muradora's future was in doubt for
a while due to reorganization of the development team, but the most
recent word is that it will continue to be developed.

You'll end up with very different beasts depending on what you choose,
so you really need to list Fedora+Fez, Fedora+Muradora, etc. as separate
options.

Peter


> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Edward M. Corrado
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:25 PM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I've been investigating possible solutions for the beginnings 
> of a repository of electronic documents [1]. At this point, 
> we have no budget, so I am only looking at Open Source 
> options. I've identified a number of options that may meet 
> our needs that are either advertised as institutional 
> repository software or digital library software. Basically 
> what I am wonder is am I missing some OSS programs that in 
> these categories that might work for us. Software that I have 
> identified so far that looks promising are:
> 
> DSpace: http://www.dspace.org/
> Fedora: http://www.fedora-commons.org/
> E-prints: http://www.eprints.org/
> Greenstone: www.*greenstone*.org/
> Kete: http://kete.net.nz/
> Rescarta: http://www.rescarta.org/
> 
> 
> I have identified some others, but rejected them because they 
> were either experimental or appear not to be in current 
> development. At this point we haven't really narrowed down 
> our focus, so almost any digital library or institutional 
> repository program would be under consideration, providing it 
> is 1) somewhat fully developed (again, no budget), 2) 
> somewhat easy to use and install, 3) has some level of user 
> base, and 4) is actively being maintained. Does anyone have 
> any suggestions for other software to investigate
> 
> Edward
> 
> [1] I'm not going to call this an institutional repository, 
> because what 
> I am envision is more of a hybrid of a digital library and 
> institutional 
> repository. I'd be less vague, but I only have a vague idea 
> of what we want.
> 
> 


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Joe Hourcle

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Leslie Johnston wrote:


Agreed that you need a label for the function/tool/platform.

I have been in many discussions that went around and around on the word
"repository."  Some folks liked it because it was a reasonably generic
term for a class of tool that had some physical association with a place
where things are stored/saved.  Some folks hated it because, well, who
knows what the heck a repository is, and how do you explain it to people
who have no clue what it might be or how it would be of use to them?


I was at workshop a few years back, and my boss made a comment that 
'repository' comes from 'repose', which suggests that the materials are 
being placed there to never be used again.  'Archive' suggests that 
the materials have value, and are being stored for some later use.


Of course, this is also the same person who's been known to refer to our 
archive as 'write once, read never'.  (jokingly, of course, as we have 
regular connections from other sites, trying to mirror our whole 
collection)


-Joe


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Anderson, Jade N
You could check out Open Collection too:
http://www.opencollection.org/

My Digital Libraries class at UT chose it (over Greenstone, DSpace, and Fedora) 
to create a digital collection last semester.  It is newer but they are 
actively developing it, fixing bugs, etc.

Jade
__
Jade Anderson
Information Architect
University of Texas Libraries
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
512.495.4431



-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole Engard
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:14 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

I just learned about Alfresco yesterday:
http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Main_Page was this one that you decided
against - or is it new to you?


---

Nicole C. Engard
Open Source Evangelist, LibLime
(888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIM/Y!/Skype: nengard

http://liblime.com
http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/



On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Edward M. Corrado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've been investigating possible solutions for the beginnings of a
> repository of electronic documents [1]. At this point, we have no budget, so
> I am only looking at Open Source options. I've identified a number of
> options that may meet our needs that are either advertised as institutional
> repository software or digital library software. Basically what I am wonder
> is am I missing some OSS programs that in these categories that might work
> for us. Software that I have identified so far that looks promising are:
>
> DSpace: http://www.dspace.org/
> Fedora: http://www.fedora-commons.org/
> E-prints: http://www.eprints.org/
> Greenstone: www.*greenstone*.org/
> Kete: http://kete.net.nz/
> Rescarta: http://www.rescarta.org/
>
>
> I have identified some others, but rejected them because they were either
> experimental or appear not to be in current development. At this point we
> haven't really narrowed down our focus, so almost any digital library or
> institutional repository program would be under consideration, providing it
> is 1) somewhat fully developed (again, no budget), 2) somewhat easy to use
> and install, 3) has some level of user base, and 4) is actively being
> maintained. Does anyone have any suggestions for other software to
> investigate
>
> Edward
>
> [1] I'm not going to call this an institutional repository, because what I
> am envision is more of a hybrid of a digital library and institutional
> repository. I'd be less vague, but I only have a vague idea of what we want.
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Leslie Johnston
Agreed that you need a label for the function/tool/platform.

I have been in many discussions that went around and around on the word
"repository."  Some folks liked it because it was a reasonably generic
term for a class of tool that had some physical association with a place
where things are stored/saved.  Some folks hated it because, well, who
knows what the heck a repository is, and how do you explain it to people
who have no clue what it might be or how it would be of use to them?

Often these discussions ended up with a desire to come up with a name
for the public facing service so we never had to tell anyone what a repo
was but could tell them to use "Edgar" or whatever to add or find
collections.  Not that coming up with a name is any easier...

Just as I was leaving UVA 4 months ago we started to internally refer
to "Library managed content" for digital materials of all sorts that
were under local control.  It successfully draws a circle around a class
of activities — managing and delivering collections housed in the
local environment, but again, it draws a line between those collections
and the majority of the Library's digital content — ejournals and
databases.  The distinction between local and remote should be
transparent to users so, again, not so useful on the public-facing side.
 Very useful on the administrative side, though.

Leslie

>>> Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/21/2008 5:22 PM >>>
I agreewholeheartedly with "there is no digital library, it's just the

library".  And just the library increasingly has not only it's 
collections but it's services digital and online (is digital reference

part of the 'digital library'? can you have a 'digital library' without

online reference?  Forget it, it's just the library, but that library 
better be increasingly digital if it wants to survive. )

But of course, you still need some name for this class of software 
intended to be a platform for your digital stuff, possibly with 
preservation, possibly with workflow built in, possibly not. But it's a

platform to hold your digital stuff. One of my local colleagues says 
"digital shelves", which sounds good to me. "Digital library" I don't 
like for the reasons Leslie mentioned, and because I've always been 
confused as to why the "library" in "digital library" is understood to

just be talking about _stuff_, about collections, , when we all work in

libraries and know a library is more than just it's collections!   
"Institutional repository", talk about jargon, and yeah, it's not clear

to me _why_ we'd draw such a distinction between digital copies of our

own institutional output, and digital copies of other stuff.  But if we

did need such a special name for our own institution's output, didn't
we 
already have the word "archives"  for that?   What's the point of all 
these new jargony phrases? They seem only to serve to seperate off 
certain organizational activities and collections in their own silos, 
when they ought to be integrated into a "single business" model
instead.

Jonathan

Leslie Johnston wrote:
> I have grown to really dislike the phrase "digital library."  
>
> In my last job most folks referred to "The DL" when they meant the
> digital collection repository (NOT an IR, but a repo for digitized
> library collections).  Some of us kept making the point that
"digital
> library" meant not just digitized physical collections, but
databases
> and ejournals and licensed digital images and GIS data and faculty
> publications and born-digital scholarship and so on.  And even if we
> used the phrase more inclusively, it seemed silly to semantically
> segregate that content from the physical collections just because it
was
> digital.  
>
> There is no digital library — it's just the library.
>
> Leslie
>
> --
> Leslie Johnston
> Digital Media Project Coordinator
> Office of Strategic Initiatives
> Library of Congress
> 202-707-2801
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>   

-- 
Jonathan Rochkind
Digital Services Software Engineer
The Sheridan Libraries
Johns Hopkins University
410.516.8886 
rochkind (at) jhu.edu


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Nicole Engard
I just learned about Alfresco yesterday:
http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Main_Page was this one that you decided
against - or is it new to you?


---

Nicole C. Engard
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(888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714
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http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/



On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Edward M. Corrado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've been investigating possible solutions for the beginnings of a
> repository of electronic documents [1]. At this point, we have no budget, so
> I am only looking at Open Source options. I've identified a number of
> options that may meet our needs that are either advertised as institutional
> repository software or digital library software. Basically what I am wonder
> is am I missing some OSS programs that in these categories that might work
> for us. Software that I have identified so far that looks promising are:
>
> DSpace: http://www.dspace.org/
> Fedora: http://www.fedora-commons.org/
> E-prints: http://www.eprints.org/
> Greenstone: www.*greenstone*.org/
> Kete: http://kete.net.nz/
> Rescarta: http://www.rescarta.org/
>
>
> I have identified some others, but rejected them because they were either
> experimental or appear not to be in current development. At this point we
> haven't really narrowed down our focus, so almost any digital library or
> institutional repository program would be under consideration, providing it
> is 1) somewhat fully developed (again, no budget), 2) somewhat easy to use
> and install, 3) has some level of user base, and 4) is actively being
> maintained. Does anyone have any suggestions for other software to
> investigate
>
> Edward
>
> [1] I'm not going to call this an institutional repository, because what I
> am envision is more of a hybrid of a digital library and institutional
> repository. I'd be less vague, but I only have a vague idea of what we want.
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Edward Iglesias
Just as an aside I'd look at how you want items deposited.  We use eprints
for our Master's Theses and they get cataloged.  If you want faculty at a
number of locations to submit work with just a few tags you might want to
look at dspace.  Another consideration is harvesting.  Both of these allow
OAI harvesting.  The other thing I would look at is what you plan to put
up.  We are starting to host some honors projects and I had to break it to
the Graduate Committee that only two dimensional objects would work so that
sculpture while nice ...


~
Edward Iglesias
Systems Librarian
Central Connecticut State University



On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Rob Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> To throw in my 2c.
>
> > Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
> > > On Aug 21, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
> > >> If you can figure out what the difference between an 'institutional
> > >> repository' and a 'digital library' is, let me know.
> > > I think an institutional repository is a type of digital library.
>
> I think the set of "institutional repository" is a subset of the set of
> "digital library".  The defining feature being that IRs are designed to
> be updated relatively frequently, by more than one or two people, and
> typically non technical members of an institution.  This happens via a
> user UI, rather than via an admin UI.  The contents of the IR are
> research output, whereas a DL can hold anything.
>
> Rob
>



-- 
Edward Iglesias


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Rob Sanderson
To throw in my 2c.

> Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
> > On Aug 21, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
> >> If you can figure out what the difference between an 'institutional 
> >> repository' and a 'digital library' is, let me know.
> > I think an institutional repository is a type of digital library.

I think the set of "institutional repository" is a subset of the set of
"digital library".  The defining feature being that IRs are designed to
be updated relatively frequently, by more than one or two people, and
typically non technical members of an institution.  This happens via a
user UI, rather than via an admin UI.  The contents of the IR are
research output, whereas a DL can hold anything.

Rob


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread John Fereira

Eric Lease Morgan wrote:

On Aug 21, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:

If you can figure out what the difference between an 'institutional 
repository' and a 'digital library' is, let me know.




I think an institutional repository is a type of digital library.


To ma an institutional repository is a *component* of the digital 
library.  A digital library might consist of an repository where digital 
objects are persisted, preserved, and managed but it also needs a 
presentation layer, tools for collection building, metadata creation, 
discovery tools, and scanning/transformation services of objects which 
are not born digital, etc.


Typically I've seen digital libraries start by identifying a collection 
based on a genre, material collected and stored in a "digital library in 
a box" (like DSpace or Greenstone) and then made available through the 
UI provided by the all-in-one solutions.


I am working on a model which collects and persists all of the available 
digital objects and persists them to a repository, then collections can 
be built from any of the material in the repository as well as material 
from other institutional repositories.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Open Source Institutional Repository Software?

2008-08-22 Thread Ben O'Steen
2008/8/22 David Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I use EPrints, which is great.
>
> Do look out for Microsoft's offering though, which is in the pipeline.  It
> will be free.  Of course It will need to run on a Windows server and will be
> optimised for SQL Server.

Er.. it will *only* run on the most recent SQLServer - their repo is a
shim on top of SQLServers native XPath handling system, as far as I
could make out. From talking to them, they seem to have convinced a
SQLServer that it is really an RDF triplestore, and have added a few
gui things on top.

My actual advice to the first poster however, is that if you have no
resources (money and/or time) then don't bother with an IR - it will
require time, effort and probably money. If you feel up to putting in
that time and effort, then fantastic, but don't be mislead that it
won't suck up your time.

Ben O'Steen
Software Engineer,
Oxford University

>
> David.
>
>
> --
> David Kane
> Systems Librarian
> Waterford Institute of Technology
> http://library.wit.ie/
> T: ++353.51302838
> M: ++353.876693212
>