[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Roy Tennant
I was in the middle of writing a blog post about Code4Lib going regional
when it hit me -- here we have this incredibly successful brand and yet we
lack a t-shirt. But I guess we lack a t-shirt because we lack a logo to put
on it. The closest we get are the items that decorate our web site. Are we
at the point where we're ready to establish an official graphic identity,
that can grace our web site, journal, conference, etc.? I think so.

So here's my proposal: we take some of the money that has been passed down
from conference to conference and we hire a graphic designer to do a
professional job of it. Branding is best not left to amateurs. We put
together a committee of volunteers to handle it.

I know of at least one design firm that I think would do a good job, since
they just designed a t-shirt for OCLC that we really liked, and they were
delighted to work with library coders. See
http://www.sanchezcircuit.com/catalog/. There are no doubt others as well.

One of the nice things about a logo is that although it establishes a solid
graphic identity, it doesn't really take any organizational infrastructure
to do it, which seems to fit right in with the c4l vibe. So am I crazy?
Stupid? Or right? You decide.
Roy


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
I like the idea.  A real logo would be nice.  My one caveat is I'd
still like everyone who'd like to have a voice to have one (I like
voting).  I'd be less in favor of a committee of volunteers to make
the decision.  I don't know how that would work with a professional
graphic designer though.  Could they give us several options and open
it up to a vote?

Kevin



On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was in the middle of writing a blog post about Code4Lib going regional
 when it hit me -- here we have this incredibly successful brand and yet we
 lack a t-shirt. But I guess we lack a t-shirt because we lack a logo to put
 on it. The closest we get are the items that decorate our web site. Are we
 at the point where we're ready to establish an official graphic identity,
 that can grace our web site, journal, conference, etc.? I think so.

 So here's my proposal: we take some of the money that has been passed down
 from conference to conference and we hire a graphic designer to do a
 professional job of it. Branding is best not left to amateurs. We put
 together a committee of volunteers to handle it.

 I know of at least one design firm that I think would do a good job, since
 they just designed a t-shirt for OCLC that we really liked, and they were
 delighted to work with library coders. See
 http://www.sanchezcircuit.com/catalog/. There are no doubt others as well.

 One of the nice things about a logo is that although it establishes a solid
 graphic identity, it doesn't really take any organizational infrastructure
 to do it, which seems to fit right in with the c4l vibe. So am I crazy?
 Stupid? Or right? You decide.
 Roy




-- 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
are two kinds of people and those who know better.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Roy Tennant
I don't see that as a problem at all, typically designers will start with a
few ideas, get feedback from the client, then make the final. The vote could
identify the leading candidate, but then we would likely need to give some
final guidance to the designer which would need to be distilled from group
comments. We would also still need at one individual (/me takes one large
step back) to be the designer contact. They won't want to deal with a group.
But voting seems fine to me.
Roy


On 9/19/08 9/19/08 € 8:39 PM, Kevin S. Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like the idea.  A real logo would be nice.  My one caveat is I'd
 still like everyone who'd like to have a voice to have one (I like
 voting).  I'd be less in favor of a committee of volunteers to make
 the decision.  I don't know how that would work with a professional
 graphic designer though.  Could they give us several options and open
 it up to a vote?
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was in the middle of writing a blog post about Code4Lib going regional
 when it hit me -- here we have this incredibly successful brand and yet we
 lack a t-shirt. But I guess we lack a t-shirt because we lack a logo to put
 on it. The closest we get are the items that decorate our web site. Are we
 at the point where we're ready to establish an official graphic identity,
 that can grace our web site, journal, conference, etc.? I think so.
 
 So here's my proposal: we take some of the money that has been passed down
 from conference to conference and we hire a graphic designer to do a
 professional job of it. Branding is best not left to amateurs. We put
 together a committee of volunteers to handle it.
 
 I know of at least one design firm that I think would do a good job, since
 they just designed a t-shirt for OCLC that we really liked, and they were
 delighted to work with library coders. See
 http://www.sanchezcircuit.com/catalog/. There are no doubt others as well.
 
 One of the nice things about a logo is that although it establishes a solid
 graphic identity, it doesn't really take any organizational infrastructure
 to do it, which seems to fit right in with the c4l vibe. So am I crazy?
 Stupid? Or right? You decide.
 Roy
 
 
 

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Carol Bean
Well, looking at Software Freedom Day, which has somehow managed to  
get itself a logo with virtually no organizational infrastructure, I  
don't see why Code4Lib shouldn't.  I suspect their logo design wasn't  
done by amateurs, however, even if they were volunteers.  Of course  
they have a much larger, global base of  volunteers...


I think it's a cool idea.

Carol



On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote:


I like the idea.  A real logo would be nice.  My one caveat is I'd
still like everyone who'd like to have a voice to have one (I like
voting).  I'd be less in favor of a committee of volunteers to make
the decision.  I don't know how that would work with a professional
graphic designer though.  Could they give us several options and open
it up to a vote?

Kevin



On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
I was in the middle of writing a blog post about Code4Lib going  
regional
when it hit me -- here we have this incredibly successful brand and  
yet we
lack a t-shirt. But I guess we lack a t-shirt because we lack a  
logo to put
on it. The closest we get are the items that decorate our web site.  
Are we
at the point where we're ready to establish an official graphic  
identity,

that can grace our web site, journal, conference, etc.? I think so.

So here's my proposal: we take some of the money that has been  
passed down

from conference to conference and we hire a graphic designer to do a
professional job of it. Branding is best not left to amateurs. We put
together a committee of volunteers to handle it.

I know of at least one design firm that I think would do a good  
job, since
they just designed a t-shirt for OCLC that we really liked, and  
they were

delighted to work with library coders. See
http://www.sanchezcircuit.com/catalog/. There are no doubt others  
as well.


One of the nice things about a logo is that although it establishes  
a solid
graphic identity, it doesn't really take any organizational  
infrastructure
to do it, which seems to fit right in with the c4l vibe. So am I  
crazy?

Stupid? Or right? You decide.
Roy





--
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
are two kinds of people and those who know better.


Carol Bean
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I am all for a logo, but I also agree with Kevin it needs to be a community
based decision. I'm also not sold that we need a professional designed logo,
but I'm not against it either. I can understand why a business would not
want to leave it to amateurs (although I have seen some great logos created
by design school students) but I'm not sure what a professional logo would
give us that a community derived one wouldn't. Roy, what do you think that
would be that would gain by using a professional logo company?

Edward - actually wearing a code4lib conference t-shirt right now




On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Carol Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, looking at Software Freedom Day, which has somehow managed to get
 itself a logo with virtually no organizational infrastructure, I don't see
 why Code4Lib shouldn't.  I suspect their logo design wasn't done by
 amateurs, however, even if they were volunteers.  Of course they have a much
 larger, global base of  volunteers...

 I think it's a cool idea.

 Carol




 On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote:

  I like the idea.  A real logo would be nice.  My one caveat is I'd
 still like everyone who'd like to have a voice to have one (I like
 voting).  I'd be less in favor of a committee of volunteers to make
 the decision.  I don't know how that would work with a professional
 graphic designer though.  Could they give us several options and open
 it up to a vote?

 Kevin



 On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was in the middle of writing a blog post about Code4Lib going regional
 when it hit me -- here we have this incredibly successful brand and yet
 we
 lack a t-shirt. But I guess we lack a t-shirt because we lack a logo to
 put
 on it. The closest we get are the items that decorate our web site. Are
 we
 at the point where we're ready to establish an official graphic identity,
 that can grace our web site, journal, conference, etc.? I think so.

 So here's my proposal: we take some of the money that has been passed
 down
 from conference to conference and we hire a graphic designer to do a
 professional job of it. Branding is best not left to amateurs. We put
 together a committee of volunteers to handle it.

 I know of at least one design firm that I think would do a good job,
 since
 they just designed a t-shirt for OCLC that we really liked, and they were
 delighted to work with library coders. See
 http://www.sanchezcircuit.com/catalog/. There are no doubt others as
 well.

 One of the nice things about a logo is that although it establishes a
 solid
 graphic identity, it doesn't really take any organizational
 infrastructure
 to do it, which seems to fit right in with the c4l vibe. So am I crazy?
 Stupid? Or right? You decide.
 Roy




 --
 There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
 are two kinds of people and those who know better.


 Carol Bean
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

2008-09-19 Thread Rob Casson
think it's a swell ideasolr is looking at a new logo, and this
site came up on-list:

 http://99designs.com/

not endorsing, or painting a bikeshedjust a heads-up.

rc