Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Mark A. Matienzo wrote: +1 for New Haven (if not for 2011, then for 2012). Daniel, feel free to give me a shout if you'd like any help putting together the proposal! I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the planning commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. I know you (Mark) have recently been her (sorry I wasn't able to get to your talk) so if you want to comment on whether or not Ithaca would be a good location I might look into it a bit. I've been to a conference in Vancouver and would love to visit again but from reading the feedback from the Jasig conference held there a few years ago the biggest complaint from attendees was the cost. Of course, the planning committee did choose a rather expensive hotel for the conference location though.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Loins, Daniel wrote: Well, I've been meaning to toss New Haven, CT, into the ring, but was waiting to get more feedback/expressions of interest from my colleagues here (and also thinking that 2012 might be better for East Coast). Anyway, I can try to have a skeletal proposal ready by the 5th (unless someone at Yale tries to talk me out of it). Daniel Personally, I think the more applications the better. So I say go for it. Also, I hope some of the sites that weren't voted in last time re-submit their application. Edward On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: SIDEBAR: Granted "these economic times," but am I the only one who's surprised not to hear more interest in hosting next year's conference? Yes, yes, we're a bunch of damned procrastinators, I know. -Mike On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 21:41, William Denton wrote: On 2 March 2010, Ziso, Ya'aqov wrote: Many institutions would consider Canada an international conference, and most likely would allow (if any!?) one. My 5 cents (and that's all left in the budget), s/Many/Many American/ but I know what you mean. I don't see a local chapter meeting as conflicting with the full conference, and don't think that's anything to worry about. I'd like to go to Vancouver for a Code4Lib---it's certainly easy for me to get to, from Toronto, and I won't have the difficulties and anxieties that come from travelling into the US---but I hope some small to mid-size American cities put in too. Providence and Asheville were great to visit. Bill -- William Denton, Toronto : miskatonic.org www.frbr.org openfrbr.org
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Any word on if the Austin, TX folks are going to submit a proposal this year? They had a pretty good run for votes last year... Thanks, Becky import motivation On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > Loins, Daniel wrote: > >> Well, I've been meaning to toss New Haven, CT, into the ring, but was >> waiting to get more feedback/expressions of interest from my colleagues here >> (and also thinking that 2012 might be better for East Coast). >> >> Anyway, I can try to have a skeletal proposal ready by the 5th (unless >> someone at Yale tries to talk me out of it). >> Daniel >> >> > Personally, I think the more applications the better. So I say go for it. > Also, I hope some of the sites that weren't voted in last time re-submit > their application. > > Edward > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
+1 for Austin. Especially if we can time it the week before or after SXSW. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Becky Yoose Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:44:44 To: Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals Any word on if the Austin, TX folks are going to submit a proposal this year? They had a pretty good run for votes last year... Thanks, Becky import motivation On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > Loins, Daniel wrote: > >> Well, I've been meaning to toss New Haven, CT, into the ring, but was >> waiting to get more feedback/expressions of interest from my colleagues here >> (and also thinking that 2012 might be better for East Coast). >> >> Anyway, I can try to have a skeletal proposal ready by the 5th (unless >> someone at Yale tries to talk me out of it). >> Daniel >> >> > Personally, I think the more applications the better. So I say go for it. > Also, I hope some of the sites that weren't voted in last time re-submit > their application. > > Edward > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
John, I would say the town of Ithaca would be a good location. I don't know any specifics about the facilities or costs for a conference our size though. I would assume that maybe Cornell has some space if the timing is right but I'm not sure. I do know when I stayed at the campus hotel was really nice for the price (it is ran by students). I've been to Ithaca for smaller conferences (~60 people) before moving to Binghamton and enjoyed it. Getting to Ithaca might not be the easiest, but probably no worse than Asheville, Athens, or Corvallis. Since I'm in Binghamton, if you do decide to submit something, let me know if you need any help. Edward John Fereira wrote: Mark A. Matienzo wrote: +1 for New Haven (if not for 2011, then for 2012). Daniel, feel free to give me a shout if you'd like any help putting together the proposal! I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the planning commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. I know you (Mark) have recently been her (sorry I wasn't able to get to your talk) so if you want to comment on whether or not Ithaca would be a good location I might look into it a bit. I've been to a conference in Vancouver and would love to visit again but from reading the feedback from the Jasig conference held there a few years ago the biggest complaint from attendees was the cost. Of course, the planning committee did choose a rather expensive hotel for the conference location though.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the planning > commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm > inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a nice venue for c4l11. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Dan Chudnov wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Ziso, Ya'aqov wrote: Many institutions would consider Canada an international conference, and most likely would allow (if any!?) one. My 5 cents (and that's all left in the budget), Ya'aqov Yeah, exactly, I might run into the same thing. In the past few years I've taken vacation for c4lc and gone on my own dime... and it can be quite pricey for a US federal employee to fly outside the country (see "Fly America Act") so I don't do it often. Seriously, you don't want to know how bad it can be. Yes, despite some American's belief that Canada is the 51st state, a co-worker from Nova Scotia occasionally reminds me that it is not. International travel is an issue at some (many?) institutions, especially in bad economic times. Edward I could probably take time off again and cobble together a train ride (empire builder!) and a rental car in seattle and do it all on the cheap, which is how I got to Access '03 in Vancouver, but, yeah, none of you care about my problems. :) -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Tue 3/2/2010 8:00 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals Why would the fact that they are both in Canada make you (or anyone else) have to choose between them? I'm not following. One is in Feb, one is in (what?) September. If you can go to two confs one in Feb and one in Sep when one is in somewhere in Canada and one is in somewhere in the US... why can't you go to two when they're both in Canada? I'm not following. Dan Chudnov wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: Should be long enough after C4LN and between Access conferences so as not to interfere. I'd encourage the Vancouver contingent to put forward its proposal; if it gets the most votes, the community has spoken. I agree about putting forward the proposal, and the voting, and not conflicting with C4LN, but not about Access. I have a few concerns about the idea of code4libcon in Vancouver. When the vote comes, though, if it's the only option, well, there we'll be. Just to air said concerns... maybe this should be on the conf list but the thread's here, so, whatever. (a) I don't want to have to choose between code4lib and Access and if they're both in Canada I might have to choose; Access would win. This concern is one of the reasons we didn't try a code4libcon before 2006, though maybe the number of us who share this concern is small. (b) of the five code4libcons we've had, the ones that have been the most fun to me have been the ones in smaller towns (corvallis, athens, asheville) where we're more likely to stumble into other attendees as the evening... uh... "progresses". Vancouver would be the biggest host city yet. It's a great town and I'd love to return there but it's not small by any measure. (c) in early years we emphasized keeping code4libcon cheap and have continued to succeed at that by using sponsorships to keep the registration fee low. It's good to be able to draw in students and people who are interested but not directly supported or who might choose to go on their own dime. These past two years the conf hotel rate has crept up some, with a good block rate but still well over $100/night. Vancouver's a more expensive town than any we've been in before, so I'd worry we'd be shutting some people out. I think there's been some kind of lower cost hotel or hostel option in every town, and surely there would be in Vancouver, but in a bigger town that means people are spread out more and then my concern (b) gets amplified, too. All that said, it's not like I'm putting in a hosting proposal, so, right, go VANOC^H^HC4LC! -Dan p.s. if we could try out a "lightning talk cross" session where four people talk all at the same time, i'm in for sure.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Snowy northern climes-- Carol (still hoping for a bid from Austin) From: "Kevin S. Clarke" To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Date: 03/03/2010 09:00 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals Sent by: Code for Libraries On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the planning > commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm > inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a nice venue for c4l11. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
+1 Ithica Thank you, David Faler - "Edward M. Corrado" wrote: > John, > > I would say the town of Ithaca would be a good location. I don't know > > any specifics about the facilities or costs for a conference our size > > though. I would assume that maybe Cornell has some space if the timing > > is right but I'm not sure. I do know when I stayed at the campus hotel > > was really nice for the price (it is ran by students). I've been to > Ithaca for smaller conferences (~60 people) before moving to > Binghamton > and enjoyed it. > > Getting to Ithaca might not be the easiest, but probably no worse than > > Asheville, Athens, or Corvallis. > > Since I'm in Binghamton, if you do decide to submit something, let me > > know if you need any help. > > Edward > > > > John Fereira wrote: > > Mark A. Matienzo wrote: > >> +1 for New Haven (if not for 2011, then for 2012). Daniel, feel > free > >> to give me a shout if you'd like any help putting together the > >> proposal! > > > > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the > > planning commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a > row > > but I'm inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for > > > 2011. I know you (Mark) have recently been her (sorry I wasn't able > > > to get to your talk) so if you want to comment on whether or not > > Ithaca would be a good location I might look into it a bit. > > > > I've been to a conference in Vancouver and would love to visit again > > > but from reading the feedback from the Jasig conference held there a > > > few years ago the biggest complaint from attendees was the cost. Of > > > course, the planning committee did choose a rather expensive hotel > for > > the conference location though.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Agree with Carol. Austin is good. Thanks, Hong Hong Ma Information Systems Librarian Otto G. Richter Library University of Miami 1300 Memorial Dr., Rm.301-A Coral Gables, FL 33124 h...@miami.edu (305) 284-8844 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Carol Bean Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:06 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals Snowy northern climes-- Carol (still hoping for a bid from Austin) From: "Kevin S. Clarke" To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Date: 03/03/2010 09:00 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals Sent by: Code for Libraries On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the planning > commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm > inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a nice venue for c4l11. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Ithaca in February sounds kind of depressing, honestly. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Ma, Hong wrote: > Agree with Carol. Austin is good. > > Thanks, > > Hong > > Hong Ma > Information Systems Librarian > Otto G. Richter Library > University of Miami > 1300 Memorial Dr., Rm.301-A > Coral Gables, FL 33124 > h...@miami.edu > (305) 284-8844 > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of > Carol Bean > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:06 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals > > Snowy northern climes-- > > Carol > (still hoping for a bid from Austin) > > > > From: > "Kevin S. Clarke" > To: > CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Date: > 03/03/2010 09:00 AM > Subject: > Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals > Sent by: > Code for Libraries > > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: > > > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the > planning > > commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm > > inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. > > ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd > love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a > nice venue for c4l11. > > Kevin >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
The date is not etched in stone. -Ross. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > Ithaca in February sounds kind of depressing, honestly. > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Ma, Hong wrote: > >> Agree with Carol. Austin is good. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Hong >> >> Hong Ma >> Information Systems Librarian >> Otto G. Richter Library >> University of Miami >> 1300 Memorial Dr., Rm.301-A >> Coral Gables, FL 33124 >> h...@miami.edu >> (305) 284-8844 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of >> Carol Bean >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:06 AM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals >> >> Snowy northern climes-- >> >> Carol >> (still hoping for a bid from Austin) >> >> >> >> From: >> "Kevin S. Clarke" >> To: >> CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Date: >> 03/03/2010 09:00 AM >> Subject: >> Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals >> Sent by: >> Code for Libraries >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: >> >> > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the >> planning >> > commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm >> > inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. >> >> ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd >> love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a >> nice venue for c4l11. >> >> Kevin >> >
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also, I can assure you that to help keep registration fees low we'll be leaning on our vendors ... = Who would be these vendors? Seems CODE4LIB (bringing in creative, leading edge, OpenSource ideas where ILS have monolithically reigned) are the bad dream of ILS vendors. WorldCat DeveNet/Research may make an exception, but will it be $ufficient? Ya¹aqov
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+1 Austin, on my short list of cool places to visit Thanks, Rick -- -- Rick Johnson Systems Analyst Manager, Digital Library Applications and Local Programming Unit Library Information Systems University of Notre Dame Michiana Academic Library Consortium Notre Dame, IN USA 46556 http://www.library.nd.edu 574-631-1086 From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Ross Singer [rossfsin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:36 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals The date is not etched in stone. -Ross. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > Ithaca in February sounds kind of depressing, honestly. > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Ma, Hong wrote: > >> Agree with Carol. Austin is good. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Hong >> >> Hong Ma >> Information Systems Librarian >> Otto G. Richter Library >> University of Miami >> 1300 Memorial Dr., Rm.301-A >> Coral Gables, FL 33124 >> h...@miami.edu >> (305) 284-8844 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of >> Carol Bean >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:06 AM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals >> >> Snowy northern climes-- >> >> Carol >> (still hoping for a bid from Austin) >> >> >> >> From: >> "Kevin S. Clarke" >> To: >> CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Date: >> 03/03/2010 09:00 AM >> Subject: >> Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals >> Sent by: >> Code for Libraries >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: >> >> > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the >> planning >> > commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm >> > inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. >> >> ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd >> love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a >> nice venue for c4l11. >> >> Kevin >> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Born & raised in Ithaca, went to college there (Go Big Red!) and I love it there. BUT I have to agree that February in Ithaca can be dreary. They have a decent restaurant and pub scene but one of the key attractions for Ithaca is the outdoor activities. Though we could do a wine tour! And visit Wegmans. And eat good bagels. And half moon cookies. And drink Ithaca beers. I've changed my mind - I'm all over Ithaca for C4L11. I have some very strong opinions on venue though. :-) Tania -- Tania Fersenheim Manager of Library Systems Brandeis University Library and Technology Services 415 South Street, (MS 017/P.O. Box 549110) Waltham, MA 02454-9110 Phone: 781.736.4698 Fax: 781.736.4577 email: tan...@brandeis.edu > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On > Behalf Of Ethan Gruber > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:36 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals > > Ithaca in February sounds kind of depressing, honestly. > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
I'm looking out my windows--it is. warm_places_in_february++ On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > Ithaca in February sounds kind of depressing, honestly. > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Ma, Hong wrote: > >> Agree with Carol. Austin is good. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Hong >> >> Hong Ma >> Information Systems Librarian >> Otto G. Richter Library >> University of Miami >> 1300 Memorial Dr., Rm.301-A >> Coral Gables, FL 33124 >> h...@miami.edu >> (305) 284-8844 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of >> Carol Bean >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:06 AM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals >> >> Snowy northern climes-- >> >> Carol >> (still hoping for a bid from Austin) >> >> >> >> From: >> "Kevin S. Clarke" >> To: >> CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Date: >> 03/03/2010 09:00 AM >> Subject: >> Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals >> Sent by: >> Code for Libraries >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: >> >> > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the >> planning >> > commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm >> > inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. >> >> ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd >> love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a >> nice venue for c4l11. >> >> Kevin >> > -- Andrew Darby Web Services Librarian Ithaca College Library http://www.ithaca.edu/library/ ada...@ithaca.edu
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ithaca_in_april++ -Esme -- Esme Cowles "A person, who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person. (This is very important. Pay attention. It never fails.) " -- Dave Barry On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Ross Singer wrote: > The date is not etched in stone. > > -Ross. > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ethan Gruber wrote: >> Ithaca in February sounds kind of depressing, honestly. >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Ma, Hong wrote: >> >>> Agree with Carol. Austin is good. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Hong >>> >>> Hong Ma >>> Information Systems Librarian >>> Otto G. Richter Library >>> University of Miami >>> 1300 Memorial Dr., Rm.301-A >>> Coral Gables, FL 33124 >>> h...@miami.edu >>> (305) 284-8844 >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of >>> Carol Bean >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:06 AM >>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals >>> >>> Snowy northern climes-- >>> >>> Carol >>> (still hoping for a bid from Austin) >>> >>> >>> >>> From: >>> "Kevin S. Clarke" >>> To: >>> CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >>> Date: >>> 03/03/2010 09:00 AM >>> Subject: >>> Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals >>> Sent by: >>> Code for Libraries >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: >>> I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the >>> planning commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. >>> >>> ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd >>> love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a >>> nice venue for c4l11. >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Also, the farther north we go, the more likely that snow+airplane incompatibilities will foil speakers' (and attendees'!) travel plans at the last minute, which isn't fun for anyone. somewhere_out_of_nor'easter_and_lake_effect_range_in_february++ JMB On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Andrew Darby wrote: > I'm looking out my windows--it is. warm_places_in_february++ > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > > Ithaca in February sounds kind of depressing, honestly. > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Ma, Hong wrote: > > > >> Agree with Carol. Austin is good. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Hong > >> > >> Hong Ma > >> Information Systems Librarian > >> Otto G. Richter Library > >> University of Miami > >> 1300 Memorial Dr., Rm.301-A > >> Coral Gables, FL 33124 > >> h...@miami.edu > >> (305) 284-8844 > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of > >> Carol Bean > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:06 AM > >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals > >> > >> Snowy northern climes-- > >> > >> Carol > >> (still hoping for a bid from Austin) > >> > >> > >> > >> From: > >> "Kevin S. Clarke" > >> To: > >> CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > >> Date: > >> 03/03/2010 09:00 AM > >> Subject: > >> Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals > >> Sent by: > >> Code for Libraries > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, John Fereira wrote: > >> > >> > I've got a bit of conference planning burnout after being on the > >> planning > >> > commitee for the Jasig conference for the sixth time in a row but I'm > >> > inclined to throw out Ithaca, NY as a possible location for 2011. > >> > >> ooh, +1 ... I was born in Ithaca, but haven't been back since; I'd > >> love an excuse to visit and explore! From what I hear, it would make a > >> nice venue for c4l11. > >> > >> Kevin > >> > > > > > > -- > Andrew Darby > Web Services Librarian > Ithaca College Library > http://www.ithaca.edu/library/ > ada...@ithaca.edu >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
A quick thread recap: There is no proposal from the Austin folks and they have thus far not expressed interest in hosting. So far we've received three "intend to propose" messages, and those are for Vancouver, New Haven, and Ithaca. The deadline for actual hosting proposals is Friday. Voting on hosting proposals will presumably take place in the usual way, via Ross Singer's "el diebold-o-tron-o-matic-o," not in an e-mail thread. -Mike
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No need to be concerned about the vendors: they're the same suspects who sponsored C4L10. Paul On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Ya'aqov Ziso wrote: > also, I can assure you that to help keep registration fees low we'll > be > leaning on our vendors ... > = > Who would be these vendors? Seems CODE4LIB (bringing in creative, leading > edge, OpenSource ideas where ILS have monolithically reigned) are the bad > dream of ILS vendors. WorldCat DeveNet/Research may make an exception, but > will it be $ufficient? > Ya¹aqov >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Tania Fersenheim wrote: Born & raised in Ithaca, went to college there (Go Big Red!) and I love it there. BUT I have to agree that February in Ithaca can be dreary. They have a decent restaurant and pub scene but one of the key attractions for Ithaca is the outdoor activities. Though we could do a wine tour! And visit Wegmans. And eat good bagels. And half moon cookies. And drink Ithaca beers. I've changed my mind - I'm all over Ithaca for C4L11. I have some very strong opinions on venue though. :-) Please share your opinions on the venue. The campus hotel that Edward mentioned (Statler) would almost certainly be able to accommodate attendees and provide meeting space but, if it were up to me, I would probably prefer the Hilton Garden Inn downtown. There is just a lot more going on downtown, especially the restaurant and pub scene. Cornell has a big hotel school and it seems that a lot of graduates end up coming back and opening restaurants. As a result there are a *lot* of very good restaurants in town, and only in the last few years have a few of the chains started to open up shop. As you said, winery tours would be easy to arrange. There are over 200 wineries in the Finger Lakes area and the quality has significantly improved in the 15 years or so I've lived her. The area produces some of the best Riesling you'll find anywhere as well as some outstanding Ice wines. For outdoor activities, things would be somewhat limited in February (many of the gorge trails are closed in winter). When the water warms though, a very good friend of mine opens his kayak shop for rentals where one can paddle onto Cayuga lake. I remember when I attended the Code4Lib in Providence the weather was as good or better here then it was in Providence. Still, scheduling a conference in February *could* mean significant snowfalls (we got about 2' of snow about a week ago). Ithaca has a regional airport with direct flights from Philadelphia, Detroit, La Guardia, and Newark. Binghamton and Elmira airports are 30-40 miles away and Syracuse airport is about 50 miles away (an expensive shuttle bus is available for transport to/from Ithaca). Syracuse is also on an Amtrak line. Tania -- John Fereira Cornell University Twitter: @john_fereira Google Wave: fere...@googlewave.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Julia Bauder wrote: Also, the farther north we go, the more likely that snow+airplane incompatibilities will foil speakers' (and attendees'!) travel plans at the last minute, which isn't fun for anyone. On the other hand, the farther north you go, the more likely airports would be better prepared to handle winter weather. It seems that a foot of snow can cripple transportation when it arrives in more southern locales but it hardly gets noticed when it hits a place like Syracuse. -- John Fereira Cornell University Twitter: @john_fereira Google Wave: fere...@googlewave.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Paul Joseph wrote: > No need to be concerned about the vendors: they're the same suspects who > sponsored C4L10. Just to be clear on this -- the same suspects actually shelled out far less for C4L10 than they had in the past. And we had far fewer sponsors than we had in, say, Portland (which required similar economic gymnastics, in a much stronger economy, to keep it affordable). -Ross.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Well, that's only because the further north you are the more likely a foot of snow is. Pretty much everywhere can handle their 90% of the time weather, but cant' handle their 10th percentile extremist weather. There's probably a clear economically calculatable reason for that. But anyway... can we maybe move all the conf 'me toos' to the conf list, instead of the main code4lib list, and return the main code4lib list to lower-traffic discussion of code? Jonathan John Fereira wrote: Julia Bauder wrote: Also, the farther north we go, the more likely that snow+airplane incompatibilities will foil speakers' (and attendees'!) travel plans at the last minute, which isn't fun for anyone. On the other hand, the farther north you go, the more likely airports would be better prepared to handle winter weather. It seems that a foot of snow can cripple transportation when it arrives in more southern locales but it hardly gets noticed when it hits a place like Syracuse.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
The Statler is a nice facility and could probably accomodate the number of attendees, but I suspect that even with a negotiated conference rate it will be fairly expensive. And, while campus is beautiful, it's a bit out of the thick of things night-life wise, unless we're all willing to channel our inner college student and hit the Palms and Chapter House. ;-) I would prefer the Hilton Garden Inn downtown. As you point out, the downtown location is ideal for restaurants, pubs, etc, and absolutely perfect for hopping on public transportation. It's fairly new, they do conferences/meetings regularly, though I don't know what size groups they usually work with. The Holiday Inn is, IMO, completely out of the question. They try hard but never seem to hit the mark when it comes to facilities and services. HTH! Tania, opinionated Ithaca ex-pat -- Tania Fersenheim Manager of Library Systems Brandeis University Library and Technology Services 415 South Street, (MS 017/P.O. Box 549110) Waltham, MA 02454-9110 Phone: 781.736.4698 Fax: 781.736.4577 email: tan...@brandeis.edu > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On > Behalf Of John Fereira > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:05 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals > Please share your opinions on the venue. The campus hotel > that Edward > mentioned (Statler) would almost certainly be able to accommodate > attendees and provide meeting space but, if it were up to me, I would > probably prefer the Hilton Garden Inn downtown. There is just a lot > more going on downtown, especially the restaurant and pub scene. > Cornell has a big hotel school and it seems that a lot of > graduates end > up coming back and opening restaurants. As a result there > are a *lot* > of very good restaurants in town, and only in the last few > years have a > few of the chains started to open up shop. > > As you said, winery tours would be easy to arrange. There > are over 200 > wineries in the Finger Lakes area and the quality has significantly > improved in the 15 years or so I've lived her. The area > produces some > of the best Riesling you'll find anywhere as well as some outstanding > Ice wines. > > For outdoor activities, things would be somewhat limited in February > (many of the gorge trails are closed in winter). When the > water warms > though, a very good friend of mine opens his kayak shop for rentals > where one can paddle onto Cayuga lake. > > I remember when I attended the Code4Lib in Providence the > weather was as > good or better here then it was in Providence. Still, scheduling a > conference in February *could* mean significant snowfalls (we > got about > 2' of snow about a week ago). > > Ithaca has a regional airport with direct flights from Philadelphia, > Detroit, La Guardia, and Newark. Binghamton and Elmira airports are > 30-40 miles away and Syracuse airport is about 50 miles away (an > expensive shuttle bus is available for transport to/from Ithaca). > Syracuse is also on an Amtrak line. > > -- > John Fereira > Cornell University > Twitter: @john_fereira > Google Wave: fere...@googlewave.com >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
On 3/3/10 3/3/10 7:22 AM, "Ross Singer" wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Paul Joseph wrote: >> No need to be concerned about the vendors: they're the same suspects who >> sponsored C4L10. > > Just to be clear on this -- the same suspects actually shelled out far > less for C4L10 than they had in the past. Just to clarify the clarification, OCLC continued our support at the highest level this year, as we have since the conference began. Roy
[CODE4LIB] Looking for a Few Good Consultants
Does anyone have recommendations for Digital Library Consultants or Electronic Publishing Consultants? We are interested in someone that can help us with creating a functional specification for an xml publishing tool that will have a repository component to it. Any information you can provide, please let me know. Rosalyn
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Yes, OCLC did continue its longstanding sponsorship at our highest level (thanks OCLC!!), but folks thinking about planning should note that we did see a 24% drop in the overall amount of sponsorship this year (when compared to the previous year). I don't know if that will continue or not (has the economy turned around yet?) but it's certainly something to consider as you're planning. Institutions with plans for increasing sponsorship, or covering many of the costs themselves (like ASU and WCU did with the vans and tech/video), would have a leg up, I'd think. Fwiw, Kevin On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Roy Tennant wrote: > On 3/3/10 3/3/10 € 7:22 AM, "Ross Singer" wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Paul Joseph wrote: >>> No need to be concerned about the vendors: they're the same suspects who >>> sponsored C4L10. >> >> Just to be clear on this -- the same suspects actually shelled out far >> less for C4L10 than they had in the past. > > Just to clarify the clarification, OCLC continued our support at the highest > level this year, as we have since the conference began. > Roy >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
OCLC continued our support at the highest level this year, as we have since the conference began. Roy == However OCLC Research are calculating such support, it would have been more helpful to have sent to the Conference more of those developers working with us on OCLC web services. Their participation was sorely missed. Ya¹aqov
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Better to have a conference (made possible by OCLC funding) without OCLC developers present then to have no conf at all due to insufficient funding (also without OCLC developers present!). (Or for that matter, for us all to have to pay $300 registration fees or something). But I agree it's always nice when developers working on OCLC web services attend code4lib. I believe Xiaoming Liu has been to a code4lib conf in the past, and it was very nice to have him there. (Unless I met him at some other conf? Maybe I'm mis-remembering). Jonathan Ya'aqov Ziso wrote: OCLC continued our support at the highest level this year, as we have since the conference began. Roy == However OCLC Research are calculating such support, it would have been more helpful to have sent to the Conference more of those developers working with us on OCLC web services. Their participation was sorely missed. Ya¹aqov
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
A big old thank you to OCLC for the support! It is deeply appreciated. -t On 3/3/10 10:34 AM, Roy Tennant wrote: On 3/3/10 3/3/10 € 7:22 AM, "Ross Singer" wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Paul Joseph wrote: No need to be concerned about the vendors: they're the same suspects who sponsored C4L10. Just to be clear on this -- the same suspects actually shelled out far less for C4L10 than they had in the past. Just to clarify the clarification, OCLC continued our support at the highest level this year, as we have since the conference began. Roy
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
On 3 Mar 10, at 9:52 AM, Julia Bauder wrote: > Also, the farther north we go, the more likely that snow+airplane > incompatibilities will foil speakers' (and attendees'!) travel plans at the > last minute, which isn't fun for anyone. > > somewhere_out_of_nor'easter_and_lake_effect_range_in_february++ Actually there is a clear line (at least on the eastern half of the continent) where the further north you go, the *less* snow you got this. Buffalo is trailing a number of places on the east coast in total snow accumulation and Toronto has been dusted a few times this winter, with nothing of real substance. Detroit and Chicago were well below seasonal averages last time I checked. ALL of that said, where are the San Diego gang or the folks from Miami? Walter who can only dream of pubs with open patios in February
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
OCLC++ We will gladly suffer Roy Tennant's presence in exchange for continuing support. -Mike P.S. But seriously: OCLC++ On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:10, Tim Shearer wrote: > A big old thank you to OCLC for the support! It is deeply appreciated. > > -t > > On 3/3/10 10:34 AM, Roy Tennant wrote: >> >> On 3/3/10 3/3/10 € 7:22 AM, "Ross Singer" wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Paul Joseph wrote: No need to be concerned about the vendors: they're the same suspects who sponsored C4L10. >>> >>> Just to be clear on this -- the same suspects actually shelled out far >>> less for C4L10 than they had in the past. >> >> Just to clarify the clarification, OCLC continued our support at the >> highest >> level this year, as we have since the conference began. >> Roy >
Re: [CODE4LIB] [WC-DEVNET-L] SpringerLink eBooks for SUNY
Karen Coombs, Hi, ³Terminologies ... all those terminologies databases that you used to have to buy, load, and maintain locally now available remotely for free ... (from the blurb OCLC distributed at the COIDE4LIB in Asheville, 2/21-25-2010) Could you please elaborate, how can Terminologies Services substitute for what libraries upkeep and pay for currently, given the other statement on that blurb¹s page ³WorldCat Terminologies is still an experiment research service with no service assurances². Kind thanks, Ya¹aqov
[CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies
Karen Coombs, Hi, ³Terminologies ... all those terminologies databases that you used to have to buy, load, and maintain locally now available remotely for free ... (from the blurb OCLC distributed at the COIDE4LIB in Asheville, 2/21-25-2010) Could you please elaborate, how can Terminologies Services substitute for what libraries upkeep and pay for currently, given the other statement on that blurb¹s page ³WorldCat Terminologies is still an experiment research service with no service assurances². Kind thanks, Ya¹aqov > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
> ALL of that said, where are the San Diego gang la_jolla++ BigD? --Dave == David Walker Library Web Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Walter Lewis [lew...@hhpl.on.ca] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:20 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals On 3 Mar 10, at 9:52 AM, Julia Bauder wrote: > Also, the farther north we go, the more likely that snow+airplane > incompatibilities will foil speakers' (and attendees'!) travel plans at the > last minute, which isn't fun for anyone. > > somewhere_out_of_nor'easter_and_lake_effect_range_in_february++ Actually there is a clear line (at least on the eastern half of the continent) where the further north you go, the *less* snow you got this. Buffalo is trailing a number of places on the east coast in total snow accumulation and Toronto has been dusted a few times this winter, with nothing of real substance. Detroit and Chicago were well below seasonal averages last time I checked. ALL of that said, where are the San Diego gang or the folks from Miami? Walter who can only dream of pubs with open patios in February
[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Midwest?
The was a bit of chatter in #code4lib last week about a Code4Lib Midwest gathering. So, who's interested? Where/when do you want to meet? We can do a bonfire in my back yard once it gets warmer... Have a nice day, Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Brinley jonathanbrin...@gmail.com http://xplus3.net/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Midwest?
Oh, I should also add: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Midwest Put ideas there if you want. Have a nice day, Jonathan On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Jonathan Brinley wrote: > The was a bit of chatter in #code4lib last week about a Code4Lib > Midwest gathering. So, who's interested? Where/when do you want to > meet? We can do a bonfire in my back yard once it gets warmer... > > Have a nice day, > Jonathan > > > -- > Jonathan M. Brinley > > jonathanbrin...@gmail.com > http://xplus3.net/ > -- Jonathan M. Brinley jonathanbrin...@gmail.com http://xplus3.net/
Re: [CODE4LIB] [WC-DEVNET-L] SpringerLink eBooks for SUNY
Plus I believe you are prohibited by terms of service from using the Terminologies service for cataloging. So let's say that in some cases, if you aren't using it for cataloging, and are willing to deal with no service assurance, Terminologies service can replace other databases. I'm sure there are people who will find it useful within these constraints (including myself at some point), but Karen probably mis-spoke if she implied more. Jonathan Ya'aqov Ziso wrote: Karen Coombs, Hi, ³Terminologies ... all those terminologies databases that you used to have to buy, load, and maintain locally ‹ now available remotely for free ... (from the blurb OCLC distributed at the COIDE4LIB in Asheville, 2/21-25-2010) Could you please elaborate, how can Terminologies Services substitute for what libraries upkeep and pay for currently, given the other statement on that blurb¹s page ³WorldCat Terminologies is still an experiment research service with no service assurances². Kind thanks, Ya¹aqov
[CODE4LIB] Transferring an article bib data From Article Linker page to ILL form
I am wondering if anybody already has solutions for automated interlibrary loan form from a Article Linker or an OpenURL resolver page. We have Serial Solutions' 367 Link. I would like to have one button that copies the contents of the Article Linker result and pastes into our ILL form when no full-text article is found in other databases. It is painful to retype all information. Any suggestion is welcome. Thank you, Sarah G. Park Web/Reference Librarian B. D. Owens Library | Northwest Missouri State University (660) 562-1534 | gop...@nwmissouri.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Like I said on the channel, after going west side this year, having something closer to the east coast might be nice. BTW, what was the final head count (assuming one head person?) Simon
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
West? Asheville, NC is West? It's less than 300 miles from the Atlantic Ocean. I'm not sure how much further you have to go East to be "closer to the east coast". Roy On 3/3/10 3/3/10 2:15 PM, "Simon Spero" wrote: > Like I said on the channel, after going west side this year, having > something closer to the east coast might be nice. BTW, what was the final > head count (assuming one head person?) > > Simon >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: > West? Asheville, NC is West? It's less than 300 miles from the Atlantic > Ocean. I'm not sure how much further you have to go East to be "closer to > the east coast". > This may help explain the difference: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/22/AR2005052200866_2.html
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
It's true. Eastern Carolina barbecue is better. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Simon Spero wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: > > > West? Asheville, NC is West? It's less than 300 miles from the Atlantic > > Ocean. I'm not sure how much further you have to go East to be "closer to > > the east coast". > > > > This may help explain the difference: > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/22/AR2005052200866_2.html >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
If you live on the same continent as me, I'm pretty sure Asheville NC is a lot closer to the east coast than to the west, no? It was, however, in West Carolina, a state I hadn't previously known existed. (Just kidding). From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Simon Spero [sesunc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:15 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals Like I said on the channel, after going west side this year, having something closer to the east coast might be nice. BTW, what was the final head count (assuming one head person?) Simon
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Simon Spero wrote: > BTW, what was the final > head count (assuming one head person?) 254 was the final head count. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] Transferring an article bib data From Article Linker page to ILL form
Sarah, Are you using ILLiad, or perhaps just an e-mailed based ILL form? Either way, your link resolver should be able to send the OpenURL to that system. ILLiad can accept OpenURLs and auto-populate it's form. It's not too difficult to do the same for a home-grown email ILL form. This is usually a pretty standard feature for any link resolver. I would contact Serial Solutions to see what they offer in this regard. --Daave == David Walker Library Web Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Park,Go-Woon [gop...@nwmissouri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:07 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Transferring an article bib data From Article Linker page to ILL form I am wondering if anybody already has solutions for automated interlibrary loan form from a Article Linker or an OpenURL resolver page. We have Serial Solutions' 367 Link. I would like to have one button that copies the contents of the Article Linker result and pastes into our ILL form when no full-text article is found in other databases. It is painful to retype all information. Any suggestion is welcome. Thank you, Sarah G. Park Web/Reference Librarian B. D. Owens Library | Northwest Missouri State University (660) 562-1534 | gop...@nwmissouri.edu
