Re: [CODE4LIB] Data Lifecycle Tracking & Documentation Tools

2015-03-18 Thread davesgonechina
@John - Thanks, I'd be interested to learn more about the supportable
pattern you mentioned if there are any readings you'd recommend.

@Joe - Cheers, Andreas Rauber's presentation sounds particularly relevant.
Do you have a link?

@Colin - Thanks for the feedback, I do plan to take a closer look at JIRA.

Dave

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Joe Hourcle  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, davesgonechina wrote:
>
>  Hi John,
>>
>> Good question - we're taking in XLS, CSV, JSON, XML, and on a bad day PDF
>> of varying file sizes, each requiring different transformation and audit
>> strategies, on both regular and irregular schedules. New batches often
>> feature schema changes requiring modification to ingest procedures, which
>> we're trying to automate as much as possible but obviously require a human
>> chaperone.
>>
>> Mediawiki is our default choice at the moment, but then I would still be
>> looking for a good workflow management model for the structure of the
>> wiki,
>> especially since in my experience wikis are often a graveyard for the best
>> intentions.
>>
>
>
> A few places that you might try asking this question again, to see if you
> can find a solution that better answers your question:
>
>
> The American Society for Information Science & Technology's Research Data
> Access & Preservation group.  It has a lot of librarians & archivists in
> it, as well as people from various research disiplines:
>
> http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/rdap
> http://www.asis.org/rdap/
>
> ...
>
> The Research Data Alliance has a number of groups that might be relevant.
> Here are a few that I suspect are the best fit:
>
> Libraries for Research Data IG
> https://rd-alliance.org/groups/libraries-research-data.html
>
> Reproducibility IG
> https://rd-alliance.org/groups/reproducibility-ig.html
>
> Research Data Provenance IG
> https://rd-alliance.org/groups/research-data-provenance.html
>
> Data Citation WG
> (as this fits into their 'dynamic data' problem)
> https://rd-alliance.org/groups/data-citation-wg.html
>
> ('IG' is 'Interest Group', which are long-lived.  'WG' is 'Working Group'
> which are formed to solve a specific problem and then disband)
>
> The group 'Publishing Data Workflows' might seem to be appropriate but
> it's actually 'Workflows for Publishing Data' not 'Publishing of Data
> Workflows' (which falls under 'Data Provenance' and 'Data Citation')
>
> There was a presentation at the meeting earlier this week by Andreas
> Rauber in the Data Citation group on workflows using git or SQL databases
> to be able to track appending or modification for CSV and similar ASCII
> files.
>
> ...
>
> Also, I would consider this to be on-topic for Stack Exchange's "Open
> Data" site  (and I'm one of the moderators for the site):
>
> http://opendata.stackexchange.com/
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Scancella, John  wrote:
>>
>>  Dave,
>>>
>>> How are you getting the metadata streams? Are they actual stream objects,
>>> or files, or database dumps, etc?
>>>
>>> As for the tools, I have used a number of the ones you listed below. I
>>> personally prefer JIRA (and it is free for non-profit). If you are ok if
>>> editing in wiki syntax I would recommend mediaWiki (it is what powers
>>> Wikipedia). You could also take a look at continuous deployment
>>> technologies like Virtual Machines (virtualbox), linux containers
>>> (docker),
>>> and rapid deployment tools (ansible, salt). Of course if you are doing
>>> lots
>>> of code changes you will want to test all of this continually (Jenkins).
>>>
>>> John Scancella
>>> Library of Congress, OSI
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
>>> davesgonechina
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:05 AM
>>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>>> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Data Lifecycle Tracking & Documentation Tools
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> One of my projects involves harvesting, cleaning and transforming steady
>>> streams of metadata from numerous publishers. It's an infinite loop but
>>> every cycle can be a little bit or significantly different. Many issue
>>> tracking tools are designed for a linear progression that ends in
>>> deployment, not a circular workflow, and I've not hit upon a tool or use
>>> strategy that really fits.
>>>
>>> The best illustration I've found so far of the type of workflow I'm
>>> talking about is the DCC Curation Lifecycle Model <
>>> http://www.dcc.ac.uk/sites/default/files/documents/
>>> publications/DCCLifecycle.pdf
>>>

  .
>>>
>>> Here are some things I've tried or thought about trying:
>>>
>>>- Git comments
>>>- Github Issues
>>>- MySQL comments
>>>- Bash script logs
>>>- JIRA
>>>- Trac
>>>- Trello
>>>- Wiki
>>>- Unfuddle
>>>- Redmine
>>>- Zendesk
>>>- Request Tracker
>>>- Basecamp
>>>- Asana

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2015-03-18 Thread Jennifer Eustis
Please excuse cross postings
***

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Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread David South
We use Cybrarian (www.cybrarian.com) with fairly decent success. We have found 
it to be fairly flexible, easy to use and cost efficient. 

Good luck in your search!

David M. South
Library Systems Specialist
Harriet K. and Philip Pumerantz Library
Western University of Health Sciences
909.469.8229
dso...@westernu.edu



-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura 
Krier
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:55 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

Hey folks,
I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our 
public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be logged 
in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm 
having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental control of 
home computers.

Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?

Laura


[CODE4LIB] Anyone analyzed SirsiDynix Symphony transaction logs?

2015-03-18 Thread William Denton
I'm going to analyze a whack of transaction logs from our Symphony ILS so that 
we can dig into collection usage.  Any of you out there done this?  Because the 
system is so closed and proprietary I understand it's not easy (perhaps 
impossible?) to share code (publicly?), but if you've dug into it I'd be curious 
to know, not just about how you parsed the logs but then what you did with 
it, whether you loaded bits of data into a database, etc.


Looking around, I see a few examples of people using the system's API, but 
that's it.


Bill
--
William Denton ↔  Toronto, Canada ↔  https://www.miskatonic.org/

Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Tom Connolly

Check this out for linux:


http://www.linux-pam.org/Linux-PAM-html/sag-pam_limits.html

Tom Connolly


On 03/18/2015 04:07 PM, Jack Hill wrote:

Ronald,

What features are you looking for? I'm may also be interested in 
something similar. I suspect that the final solution could be 
fashioned by putting together existing software, such as bugme 
 (session timer), with some other 
software (that I don't know about or doesn't exist) to authorize and 
provision guest accounts. A custom lightdm greeter 
 may be a good place for adding 
the latter functionality to the existing support for guest accounts in 
Ubuntu.


Best,
Jack

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Ronald Houk wrote:

I would love to find something that would work with Linux so I could 
put it
on our workstations again.  We used to have 6 workstations with 
Ubuntu on

them but when we switched to using Envisionware this became impossible.
Any open source projects would be even better!


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Ronald Houk
Bugme, sounds interesting.  I'll have to take a look at it.  A couple of
features that come to mind would be the ability for staff members to
extend/end sessions and also for the ability to have a reservation system
in place for when all systems are full but there are waiting patrons.

I'd also need to figure out some kind of print accounting system which I
think should be possible with cups, just don't know how user (staff)
friendly it would be.

Is anyone thinking about using btrfs snapshots for public kiosks?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Tom Connolly 
wrote:

> I would think you could tweak your logon software to make a session expire
> x.minutes.from.now
>
>
> On 03/18/2015 02:54 PM, Laura Krier wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>> I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our
>> public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
>> logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
>> or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm
>> having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
>> control of home computers.
>>
>> Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?
>>
>> Laura
>>
>


-- 
Ronald Houk
Assistant Director
Ottumwa Public Library
102 W. Fourth Street
Ottumwa, IA 52501
(641)682-7563x203
rh...@ottumwapubliclibrary.org


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Lennis B. Sullivan
Very interesting conversation as we are currently in the process of conducting 
usability testing on our website, and teens were tasked with finding an article 
on a current event. Almost unanimously, they had no idea where to go. Those who 
did navigate to the current events section under "Research" only clicked on the 
one database that used the word "articles" in the description, even though 
Opposing Viewpoints is front and center on the page and (to a librarian) the 
best database for the job. So whatever terminology we use, we will make sure it 
is obvious that articles can be found there.

Lennis B. Sullivan
Digital Services Librarian
Virginia Beach Public Library
lbsul...@vbgov.com 
(757)385-0145

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Erik 
Sandall
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:34 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic 
resources"

Most patrons won't understand the meanings of "digital collections" and 
"electronic resources". We should use terminology that they would use. 
My brain is a fog this morning so I don't have any brilliant suggestions at the 
moment. There is likely to be UX-type research about this in the current 
literature. "Databases" is probably better, for example. 
"Articles" is probably even better than "databases".

For what it's worth...

/Erik

--
Erik Sandall, MLIS
Electronic Services Librarian & Webmaster Mechanics' Institute
57 Post Street
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-393-0111
esand...@milibrary.org


On 3/18/2015 9:25 AM, Matt Sherman wrote:
> I haven't done any testing on that, but your understanding it the 
> conventional on in the field.
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Derek Merleaux 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> I've always been inclined to use "digital collections" to talk about 
>> a collection of things that have been digitized or perhaps including 
>> born digital things that are part of a "collection" in an archival sort of 
>> way.
>> I prefer the term "electronic resources" for the databases and other 
>> things...
>> -Derek
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi-
>>>
>>> We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and 
>>> navigation. We have a list of "digital collections" which are 
>>> collections that contain items we've digitized. There was concern 
>>> expressed that we have something labeled "digital collections" 
>>> patrons might think that includes databases and other items.
>>>
>>> Has anyone done user testing around this or have any 
>>> experience/ideas
>> about
>>> how to handle the difference between these?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> jenn
>>>
>>


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Tom Connolly
I would think you could tweak your logon software to make a session 
expire x.minutes.from.now


On 03/18/2015 02:54 PM, Laura Krier wrote:

Hey folks,
I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our
public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm
having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
control of home computers.

Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?

Laura


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Jack Hill

Ronald,

What features are you looking for? I'm may also be interested in something 
similar. I suspect that the final solution could be fashioned by putting 
together existing software, such as bugme 
 (session timer), with some other 
software (that I don't know about or doesn't exist) to authorize and 
provision guest accounts. A custom lightdm greeter 
 may be a good place for adding the 
latter functionality to the existing support for guest accounts in Ubuntu.


Best,
Jack

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Ronald Houk wrote:


I would love to find something that would work with Linux so I could put it
on our workstations again.  We used to have 6 workstations with Ubuntu on
them but when we switched to using Envisionware this became impossible.
Any open source projects would be even better!


[CODE4LIB] NE Regional Hydra Meeting: Thursday May 7, Brown University

2015-03-18 Thread English, Eben
Calling all Northeast Hydranauts! Come join your colleagues from Amherst, 
Boston Public Library, Brown, DPLA, Northeastern, WGBH, Yale, and other 
institutions as we gather for a one-day meeting to discuss all things Hydra on 
May 7th at Brown University in Providence, RI.

Registration (free) is now open: 
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zVmSGv9SOYELHqprzN8IHI_fq7fJR-QMM0w04R_VQag

Please let us know by April 15 if you are planning to attend. 

For more information about the agenda, take a look at the Meeting page on the 
Hydra Project Wiki (https://wiki.duraspace.org/x/yAUCB). We're currently 
brainstorming about session topics and the meeting structure, and welcome 
suggestions for potential topics of discussion, problems to hack on, 
demonstrations of current projects, etc. 

Some possibilities suggested so far:

* Migration to Fedora 4
* Spotlight
* Content modelling in Hydra
* Preservation & auditing
* APIs for integrating Hydra-managed content with Wordpress and/or Drupal
* UX for Hydra and Blacklight

We welcome your feedback on what type of meeting you think would be most 
useful. You can also suggest topics via the registration form.

Thanks,

The NE Hydra Meeting Planning Committee 
(Andrew Ashton, Karen Cariani, Eben English, Michael Friscia, Alicia Morris, 
Patrick Yott)


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Ronald Houk
I would love to find something that would work with Linux so I could put it
on our workstations again.  We used to have 6 workstations with Ubuntu on
them but when we switched to using Envisionware this became impossible.
Any open source projects would be even better!

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Geng Hua Lin  wrote:

> I used Veralab before and it allows you to set session time limit. It'll
> lock the screen when time is up. Give the free trial a test run.
>
> http://veralab.com/
>
>
> Geng H. Lin
> Library Systems Manager
> Lloyd Sealy Library
> 899 Tenth Avenue, Rm. 115T
> New York City, NY  10019
> Tel.212.237.8248
> Fax.   212.237.8221
> Email. g...@jjay.cuny.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Laura Krier
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:55 PM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time
>
> Hey folks,
> I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our
> public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
> logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
> or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm
> having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
> control of home computers.
>
> Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?
>
> Laura
>



-- 
Ronald Houk
Assistant Director
Ottumwa Public Library
102 W. Fourth Street
Ottumwa, IA 52501
(641)682-7563x203
rh...@ottumwapubliclibrary.org


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Geng Hua Lin
I used Veralab before and it allows you to set session time limit. It'll lock 
the screen when time is up. Give the free trial a test run.

http://veralab.com/


Geng H. Lin
Library Systems Manager
Lloyd Sealy Library
899 Tenth Avenue, Rm. 115T
New York City, NY  10019
Tel.    212.237.8248
Fax.   212.237.8221
Email. g...@jjay.cuny.edu

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura 
Krier
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:55 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

Hey folks,
I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our 
public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be logged 
in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm 
having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental control of 
home computers.

Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?

Laura


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Heller, Margaret
When I did testing to see if patrons knew what digital collections meant, they 
generally clicked on the databases link. No one I tested with clicked on 
digital collections at all even when they were supposed to, and never chose 
that instead of databases. Still musing about solutions--my main solution has 
been to improve keywords so the digitized collections will show up in searches.

Margaret Heller
Digital Services Librarian
773-508-2686

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Jenn C  wrote:
> 
> Hi-
> 
> We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation. We
> have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that contain
> items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we have something
> labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that includes databases
> and other items.
> 
> Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas about
> how to handle the difference between these?
> 
> Thanks!
> jenn


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Rogan Hamby
I should state that I also used to work at a library that used Pharos and
while it doesn't have some of Envisionware's features it's a solid product
as well.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Maura Carbone  wrote:

> We used PC Reservation at the public library I used to work at, it worked
> pretty well!
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Rogan Hamby 
> wrote:
>
> > We use PC Reservation.  It makes use of a few optional non-standard SIP
> > codes that some ILSes support that can be pretty useful (including our's
> > Evergreen).
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Nandhitha Agaram 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We use Cassie from Librarica, and it has been very helpful to control
> the
> > > computer usage of our patrons.
> > >
> > >  http://www.librarica.com/
> > >
> > > *Nandhitha Agaram*
> > > *Information Services Librarian*
> > > *Appomattox Regional Library*
> > > *804-458-6329 ext 2020*
> > > *naga...@arls.org *
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:58 PM, McCanna, Terran <
> > > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > PC Reservation: It's pretty easy to set up and manage and you can set
> > up
> > > > the rules any way you like - different rules or computer assignments
> > for
> > > > specific age groups or purposes, authentication with your ILS, etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Terran McCanna
> > > > PINES Program Manager
> > > > Georgia Public Library Service
> > > > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> > > > Atlanta, GA 30345
> > > > 404-235-7138
> > > > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Laura Krier" 
> > > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:54:39 PM
> > > > Subject: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time
> > > >
> > > > Hey folks,
> > > > I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few
> of
> > > our
> > > > public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could
> be
> > > > logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print
> > > only"
> > > > or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but
> > I'm
> > > > having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
> > > > control of home computers.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?
> > > >
> > > > Laura
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
> > Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
> > York County Library System
> >
> > “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to
> suit
> > me.”
> > ― C.S. Lewis 
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Maura Carbone
> Digital Initiatives Librarian
> Brandeis University
> Library and Technology Services
> (781) 736-4659
> 415 South Street, (MS 017/P.O. Box 549110)
> Waltham, MA 02454-9110
> email: mau...@brandeis.edu
>



-- 

Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
York County Library System

“You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit
me.”
― C.S. Lewis 


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Maura Carbone
We used PC Reservation at the public library I used to work at, it worked
pretty well!

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Rogan Hamby 
wrote:

> We use PC Reservation.  It makes use of a few optional non-standard SIP
> codes that some ILSes support that can be pretty useful (including our's
> Evergreen).
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Nandhitha Agaram 
> wrote:
>
> > We use Cassie from Librarica, and it has been very helpful to control the
> > computer usage of our patrons.
> >
> >  http://www.librarica.com/
> >
> > *Nandhitha Agaram*
> > *Information Services Librarian*
> > *Appomattox Regional Library*
> > *804-458-6329 ext 2020*
> > *naga...@arls.org *
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:58 PM, McCanna, Terran <
> > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> >
> > > PC Reservation: It's pretty easy to set up and manage and you can set
> up
> > > the rules any way you like - different rules or computer assignments
> for
> > > specific age groups or purposes, authentication with your ILS, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > Terran McCanna
> > > PINES Program Manager
> > > Georgia Public Library Service
> > > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> > > Atlanta, GA 30345
> > > 404-235-7138
> > > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Laura Krier" 
> > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:54:39 PM
> > > Subject: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time
> > >
> > > Hey folks,
> > > I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of
> > our
> > > public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
> > > logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print
> > only"
> > > or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but
> I'm
> > > having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
> > > control of home computers.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?
> > >
> > > Laura
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
> Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
> York County Library System
>
> “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit
> me.”
> ― C.S. Lewis 
>



-- 
Maura Carbone
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Brandeis University
Library and Technology Services
(781) 736-4659
415 South Street, (MS 017/P.O. Box 549110)
Waltham, MA 02454-9110
email: mau...@brandeis.edu


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Jack Hill

Hi,

I've used bugme  (both as a user and 
administrator) before. It's pretty simple, it just wraps around a user's 
actual session and can kill the session after the time limit expires. It 
can also display a counter and warnings that the limit is near.


Best,
Jack

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Laura Krier wrote:


Hey folks,
I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our
public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm
having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
control of home computers.

Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?

Laura



Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Rogan Hamby
We use PC Reservation.  It makes use of a few optional non-standard SIP
codes that some ILSes support that can be pretty useful (including our's
Evergreen).

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Nandhitha Agaram  wrote:

> We use Cassie from Librarica, and it has been very helpful to control the
> computer usage of our patrons.
>
>  http://www.librarica.com/
>
> *Nandhitha Agaram*
> *Information Services Librarian*
> *Appomattox Regional Library*
> *804-458-6329 ext 2020*
> *naga...@arls.org *
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:58 PM, McCanna, Terran <
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>
> > PC Reservation: It's pretty easy to set up and manage and you can set up
> > the rules any way you like - different rules or computer assignments for
> > specific age groups or purposes, authentication with your ILS, etc.
> >
> >
> > Terran McCanna
> > PINES Program Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service
> > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> > Atlanta, GA 30345
> > 404-235-7138
> > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Laura Krier" 
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:54:39 PM
> > Subject: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time
> >
> > Hey folks,
> > I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of
> our
> > public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
> > logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print
> only"
> > or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm
> > having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
> > control of home computers.
> >
> > Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?
> >
> > Laura
> >
>



-- 

Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
York County Library System

“You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit
me.”
― C.S. Lewis 


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Nandhitha Agaram
We use Cassie from Librarica, and it has been very helpful to control the
computer usage of our patrons.

 http://www.librarica.com/

*Nandhitha Agaram*
*Information Services Librarian*
*Appomattox Regional Library*
*804-458-6329 ext 2020*
*naga...@arls.org *

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:58 PM, McCanna, Terran <
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> PC Reservation: It's pretty easy to set up and manage and you can set up
> the rules any way you like - different rules or computer assignments for
> specific age groups or purposes, authentication with your ILS, etc.
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
> - Original Message -
> From: "Laura Krier" 
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:54:39 PM
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time
>
> Hey folks,
> I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our
> public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
> logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
> or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm
> having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
> control of home computers.
>
> Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?
>
> Laura
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread McCanna, Terran
PC Reservation: It's pretty easy to set up and manage and you can set up the 
rules any way you like - different rules or computer assignments for specific 
age groups or purposes, authentication with your ILS, etc.


Terran McCanna 
PINES Program Manager 
Georgia Public Library Service 
1800 Century Place, Suite 150 
Atlanta, GA 30345 
404-235-7138 
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org 
- Original Message -
From: "Laura Krier" 
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:54:39 PM
Subject: [CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

Hey folks,
I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our
public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm
having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
control of home computers.

Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?

Laura


[CODE4LIB] software to limit computer login time

2015-03-18 Thread Laura Krier
Hey folks,
I'm starting to investigate software that we could install on a few of our
public workstations that would limit the length of time a user could be
logged in. This would be done to establish a few computers as "print only"
or "brief use only" computers. I've seen this in other libraries, but I'm
having a hard time searching: all I'm finding are tools for parental
control of home computers.

Does anyone have any software recommendations for me?

Laura


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Eiseman, Jason
We have basically found the same thing as Michael.

We just recently ran some user research on separate groups of librarians
and students with significant portions dedicated to just this question. We
did a card-sort activity and I also had them write Œbest guess¹
definitions or Œwhat they would expect to find if they clicked on' for
terms like 'digital collections', 'electronic resources', Œdatabases', etc.

The students and the librarians both had different conceptions of the
terms. We might go back with some different exercises to see if we can't
try to tease out some different ideas, though I don¹t know that we¹ll get
better results than what Michael or others have suggested.

‹Jason

-- 
Jason Eiseman
Head of Technology Services
Lillian Goldman Law Library
Yale Law School
PO Box 208215
New Haven, CT 06520-8215
jason.eise...@yale.edu




On 3/18/15, 2:19 PM, "Michael Schofield"  wrote:

>Hiya. I've performed a handful of jargon card sorts in several libraries.
>"Digital Collections" has never been one that's on the table, but IMHO,
>good labels should be future friendly - and complicating "our collection"
>with "electronic," "digital," or "online" is an uphill battle. Rather,
>present "Collections" as a whole if you have to - in which some of the
>items happen to be digital.
>
>It's like this "audiobook" versus "e-audiobook" nightmare. We have found
>that in these cases, an audiobook is an audiobook - sometimes it's on CD,
>other times it's accessible through Overdrive.
>
>"Electronic resources" are pretty meaningless to folks who are accustomed
>to resources that are predominately electronic anyway. "Resources" should
>suffice. 
>
>My two cents!
>:) Michael
>
>@schoeyfield
>#libux.co
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
>Laura Krier
>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:52 PM
>To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs
>"electronic resources"
>
>I agree that "articles" is incomplete, but I also think sometimes we
>shoot ourselves in the feet trying to be totally comprehensive in how we
>describe things, and end up confusing people. What students think they
>want are "articles" so we should use that term as a pointer to our
>databases. Good instruction can help them understand all the different
>kinds of resources available to them.
>
>As far as digital collections go (and whatever print special collections
>we
>have) the key is helping students understand what primary source
>materials are and why they might use them. The format isn't as relevant,
>in my opinion. I personally prefer to call all our primary source
>collections Special Collections or primary source collections without
>immediately differentiating between digital and print.
>
>I think too often we present our collections to students through the
>framework of our own workflows and functional handling of materials and
>less in terms of what they might be used for by students. It would be
>interesting to wipe out our current categorizations and really re-think
>how we present resources in terms of their functions for research and
>teaching.
>
>Just my $0.02. :-)
>
>Laura
>
>
>
>On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:42 AM McCanna, Terran <
>tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>
>> Agreed - most patrons are usually confused by all of those terms
>> (including "databases") and aren't going to care about the differences
>> between them, they just want the content. "Articles" is
>> understandable, but incomplete - "Articles and Other Online Resources"
>> is inclusive and easier to understand, but too long. I usually go with
>> something like "Online Resources" to try to balance the
>>understandability with the intent.
>>
>>
>> Terran McCanna
>> PINES Program Manager
>> Georgia Public Library Service
>> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>> Atlanta, GA 30345
>> 404-235-7138
>> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Erik Sandall" 
>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:34:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs
>> "electronic resources"
>>
>> Most patrons won't understand the meanings of "digital collections"
>> and "electronic resources". We should use terminology that they would
>>use.
>> My brain is a fog this morning so I don't have any brilliant
>> suggestions at the moment. There is likely to be UX-type research
>> about this in the current literature. "Databases" is probably better,
>>for example.
>> "Articles" is probably even better than "databases".
>>
>> For what it's worth...
>>
>> /Erik
>>
>> --
>> Erik Sandall, MLIS
>> Electronic Services Librarian & Webmaster Mechanics' Institute
>> 57 Post Street
>> San Francisco, CA 94104
>> 415-393-0111
>> esand...@milibrary.org
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/2015 9:25 AM, Matt Sherman wrote:
>> > I haven't done any testing on that, but your understanding it the
>> > conventional on in the field.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 1

[CODE4LIB] NASIG 2015 Great Ideas Showcase and Snapshot Sessions - Call for Proposals Extended

2015-03-18 Thread publicist
The NASIG Program Planning Committee (PPC) has extended the
deadline to March 27th for proposals for the Great Ideas
Showcase and the Snapshot Sessions for the 30th NASIG
conference in Washington, DC, May 27-31. The theme of the
conference is "NASIG at 30: Building the Digital Future."

The Great Ideas Showcase and the Snapshot Sessions will be
held concurrently on Thursday, May 28, 2015, 4:30-5:30 p.m.
Presenters must be available to discuss their showcases or
present their snapshots during that time.

The Great Ideas Showcase will provide an opportunity to
share innovative ideas, new workflows, and new applications
of technology in an interactive and informal setting. Great
Ideas can be demonstrated in a variety of ways – posters,
laptops, tablets, e-readers, etc. Participants will be given
a table or poster board (4’ x 8’) to showcase their idea
to attendees, depending on their need.

The Snapshot Sessions will consist of up to eight 5-minute
presentations with a focus on an idea, project, workflow,
etc.  If you’ve always wanted to speak at NASIG, but
haven’t felt like you had enough to say for a full
session, this is a great opportunity for you.

Proposals may present a report of a research study, an
analysis of a practical problem-solving effort, or a
description of an innovative program that may be of interest
to the serials community. Proposals should name any
particular products or services that are integral to the
content of the showcase or snapshot. However, as a matter of
NASIG policy, showcases and snapshots should not be used as
a venue to promote or attack any product, service, or
institution.

Submit your Great Ideas Showcase proposal here:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/2015GreatIdeas

Submit your Snapshot Session proposal here:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/2015Snapshot

Proposals must be received by 5pm EST on Friday, March 27,
2015. Members of the Program Planning Committee will
evaluate abstracts, and presenters will be notified of the
status of their proposal by early April. (Note: Presenters
for the Great Ideas Showcase or Snapshot Sessions do not
qualify for a registration discount. Presenters must be
registered for either the full conference or for Thursday
single day registration.)

Inquiries may be sent to the NASIG PPC Chair and Vice-Chair,
Anna Creech and Danielle Williams, at prog-p...@nasig.org.

We look forward to seeing you in Washington! 


~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Charlene N. Simser
Publicist, NASIG, Inc.
public...@nasig.org | @NASIG
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Established in 1985, NASIG is an independent organization
that promotes communication, information, and continuing
education about serials and the broader issues of scholarly
communication. For more information about NASIG, please
visit http://www.nasig.org/. 


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Michael Schofield
Hiya. I've performed a handful of jargon card sorts in several libraries. 
"Digital Collections" has never been one that's on the table, but IMHO, good 
labels should be future friendly - and complicating "our collection" with 
"electronic," "digital," or "online" is an uphill battle. Rather, present 
"Collections" as a whole if you have to - in which some of the items happen to 
be digital. 

It's like this "audiobook" versus "e-audiobook" nightmare. We have found that 
in these cases, an audiobook is an audiobook - sometimes it's on CD, other 
times it's accessible through Overdrive. 

"Electronic resources" are pretty meaningless to folks who are accustomed to 
resources that are predominately electronic anyway. "Resources" should suffice. 

My two cents!
:) Michael

@schoeyfield
#libux.co

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura 
Krier
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:52 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic 
resources"

I agree that "articles" is incomplete, but I also think sometimes we shoot 
ourselves in the feet trying to be totally comprehensive in how we describe 
things, and end up confusing people. What students think they want are 
"articles" so we should use that term as a pointer to our databases. Good 
instruction can help them understand all the different kinds of resources 
available to them.

As far as digital collections go (and whatever print special collections we
have) the key is helping students understand what primary source materials are 
and why they might use them. The format isn't as relevant, in my opinion. I 
personally prefer to call all our primary source collections Special 
Collections or primary source collections without immediately differentiating 
between digital and print.

I think too often we present our collections to students through the framework 
of our own workflows and functional handling of materials and less in terms of 
what they might be used for by students. It would be interesting to wipe out 
our current categorizations and really re-think how we present resources in 
terms of their functions for research and teaching.

Just my $0.02. :-)

Laura



On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:42 AM McCanna, Terran < 
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> Agreed - most patrons are usually confused by all of those terms 
> (including "databases") and aren't going to care about the differences 
> between them, they just want the content. "Articles" is 
> understandable, but incomplete - "Articles and Other Online Resources" 
> is inclusive and easier to understand, but too long. I usually go with 
> something like "Online Resources" to try to balance the understandability 
> with the intent.
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
> - Original Message -
> From: "Erik Sandall" 
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:34:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs 
> "electronic resources"
>
> Most patrons won't understand the meanings of "digital collections" 
> and "electronic resources". We should use terminology that they would use.
> My brain is a fog this morning so I don't have any brilliant 
> suggestions at the moment. There is likely to be UX-type research 
> about this in the current literature. "Databases" is probably better, for 
> example.
> "Articles" is probably even better than "databases".
>
> For what it's worth...
>
> /Erik
>
> --
> Erik Sandall, MLIS
> Electronic Services Librarian & Webmaster Mechanics' Institute
> 57 Post Street
> San Francisco, CA 94104
> 415-393-0111
> esand...@milibrary.org
>
>
> On 3/18/2015 9:25 AM, Matt Sherman wrote:
> > I haven't done any testing on that, but your understanding it the
> > conventional on in the field.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Derek Merleaux <
> derek.merle...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've always been inclined to use "digital collections" to talk about a
> >> collection of things that have been digitized or perhaps including born
> >> digital things that are part of a "collection" in an archival sort of
> way.
> >> I prefer the term "electronic resources" for the databases and other
> >> things...
> >> -Derek
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi-
> >>>
> >>> We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation.
> We
> >>> have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that contain
> >>> items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we have
> something
> >>> labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that includes
> databases
> >>> and other items.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas
> >> about
> >>> how to handle the difference bet

Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Laura Krier
I agree that "articles" is incomplete, but I also think sometimes we shoot
ourselves in the feet trying to be totally comprehensive in how we describe
things, and end up confusing people. What students think they want are
"articles" so we should use that term as a pointer to our databases. Good
instruction can help them understand all the different kinds of resources
available to them.

As far as digital collections go (and whatever print special collections we
have) the key is helping students understand what primary source materials
are and why they might use them. The format isn't as relevant, in my
opinion. I personally prefer to call all our primary source collections
Special Collections or primary source collections without immediately
differentiating between digital and print.

I think too often we present our collections to students through the
framework of our own workflows and functional handling of materials and
less in terms of what they might be used for by students. It would be
interesting to wipe out our current categorizations and really re-think how
we present resources in terms of their functions for research and teaching.

Just my $0.02. :-)

Laura



On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:42 AM McCanna, Terran <
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> Agreed - most patrons are usually confused by all of those terms
> (including "databases") and aren't going to care about the differences
> between them, they just want the content. "Articles" is understandable, but
> incomplete - "Articles and Other Online Resources" is inclusive and easier
> to understand, but too long. I usually go with something like "Online
> Resources" to try to balance the understandability with the intent.
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
> - Original Message -
> From: "Erik Sandall" 
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:34:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic
> resources"
>
> Most patrons won't understand the meanings of "digital collections" and
> "electronic resources". We should use terminology that they would use.
> My brain is a fog this morning so I don't have any brilliant suggestions
> at the moment. There is likely to be UX-type research about this in the
> current literature. "Databases" is probably better, for example.
> "Articles" is probably even better than "databases".
>
> For what it's worth...
>
> /Erik
>
> --
> Erik Sandall, MLIS
> Electronic Services Librarian & Webmaster
> Mechanics' Institute
> 57 Post Street
> San Francisco, CA 94104
> 415-393-0111
> esand...@milibrary.org
>
>
> On 3/18/2015 9:25 AM, Matt Sherman wrote:
> > I haven't done any testing on that, but your understanding it the
> > conventional on in the field.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Derek Merleaux <
> derek.merle...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've always been inclined to use "digital collections" to talk about a
> >> collection of things that have been digitized or perhaps including born
> >> digital things that are part of a "collection" in an archival sort of
> way.
> >> I prefer the term "electronic resources" for the databases and other
> >> things...
> >> -Derek
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi-
> >>>
> >>> We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation.
> We
> >>> have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that contain
> >>> items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we have
> something
> >>> labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that includes
> databases
> >>> and other items.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas
> >> about
> >>> how to handle the difference between these?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> jenn
> >>>
> >>
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Reminder: Call for comments - code4libcon planning docs review

2015-03-18 Thread Becky Yoose
 Thank you all for your comments! The documentation work group will now
start shifting through the comments and prioritize recommendations. Expect
more updates as they come along.

Cheers and have a good rest of your Wednesday,
Becky

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Becky Yoose  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Just a reminder that you have until March 16th, 2015 to comment on the
> preliminary review of the code4libcon planning documentation and
> communication channels:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17C5BGX62JmOXtNrVstROwD-bMCMeuokf7tp76L5Htss/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Please do give the Disclaimer a read before reading the review - it's
> there for a reason ;c)
>
> Any substantial feedback can also be sent via email. I am cross posting
> this message to the public code4libcon Google Group [1], so please be aware
> that there might be two conversation threads happening in two places at
> once.
>
> Also, it's not too late if you want to help with a documentation project;
> just ping me *off list*. Check the to: field if you're just going to say
> that you'll help ;c) Save everyone else's inboxes!
>
> Please let me know if there are any concerns or questions in the
> meantime.
>
> [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/code4libcon
>
> Thanks,
> Becky
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Derek Merleaux
I've always been inclined to use "digital collections" to talk about a
collection of things that have been digitized or perhaps including born
digital things that are part of a "collection" in an archival sort of way.
I prefer the term "electronic resources" for the databases and other
things...
-Derek

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:

> Hi-
>
> We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation. We
> have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that contain
> items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we have something
> labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that includes databases
> and other items.
>
> Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas about
> how to handle the difference between these?
>
> Thanks!
> jenn
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread McCanna, Terran
Agreed - most patrons are usually confused by all of those terms (including 
"databases") and aren't going to care about the differences between them, they 
just want the content. "Articles" is understandable, but incomplete - "Articles 
and Other Online Resources" is inclusive and easier to understand, but too 
long. I usually go with something like "Online Resources" to try to balance the 
understandability with the intent.


Terran McCanna 
PINES Program Manager 
Georgia Public Library Service 
1800 Century Place, Suite 150 
Atlanta, GA 30345 
404-235-7138 
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org 
- Original Message -
From: "Erik Sandall" 
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic 
resources"

Most patrons won't understand the meanings of "digital collections" and 
"electronic resources". We should use terminology that they would use. 
My brain is a fog this morning so I don't have any brilliant suggestions 
at the moment. There is likely to be UX-type research about this in the 
current literature. "Databases" is probably better, for example. 
"Articles" is probably even better than "databases".

For what it's worth...

/Erik

--
Erik Sandall, MLIS
Electronic Services Librarian & Webmaster
Mechanics' Institute
57 Post Street
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-393-0111
esand...@milibrary.org


On 3/18/2015 9:25 AM, Matt Sherman wrote:
> I haven't done any testing on that, but your understanding it the
> conventional on in the field.
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Derek Merleaux 
> wrote:
>
>> I've always been inclined to use "digital collections" to talk about a
>> collection of things that have been digitized or perhaps including born
>> digital things that are part of a "collection" in an archival sort of way.
>> I prefer the term "electronic resources" for the databases and other
>> things...
>> -Derek
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi-
>>>
>>> We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation. We
>>> have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that contain
>>> items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we have something
>>> labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that includes databases
>>> and other items.
>>>
>>> Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas
>> about
>>> how to handle the difference between these?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> jenn
>>>
>>


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Erik Sandall
Most patrons won't understand the meanings of "digital collections" and 
"electronic resources". We should use terminology that they would use. 
My brain is a fog this morning so I don't have any brilliant suggestions 
at the moment. There is likely to be UX-type research about this in the 
current literature. "Databases" is probably better, for example. 
"Articles" is probably even better than "databases".


For what it's worth...

/Erik

--
Erik Sandall, MLIS
Electronic Services Librarian & Webmaster
Mechanics' Institute
57 Post Street
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-393-0111
esand...@milibrary.org


On 3/18/2015 9:25 AM, Matt Sherman wrote:

I haven't done any testing on that, but your understanding it the
conventional on in the field.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Derek Merleaux 
wrote:


I've always been inclined to use "digital collections" to talk about a
collection of things that have been digitized or perhaps including born
digital things that are part of a "collection" in an archival sort of way.
I prefer the term "electronic resources" for the databases and other
things...
-Derek

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:


Hi-

We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation. We
have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that contain
items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we have something
labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that includes databases
and other items.

Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas

about

how to handle the difference between these?

Thanks!
jenn





Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Kari R Smith
... one more comment is that I'm generally disappointed when I go to a digital 
collections web site and it's not acutally digitized Collections, but more 
individual items or parts of collections.  So are you suggesting that all the 
digitized things are making up a Collection?  Or that you've really digitized 
full collections of material?  Or are you trying to describe Digitized 
Collection Material?  I like being specific so would want to use the latter 
term - realizing that it's not catchy.

Kari

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And if you are including born-digital material from your library or Archives 
and special collections, then you'll want to figure out a way to describe those 
digital collections as well (and as different than digitized physical 
material).  Digital Archives would not, in my opinion, be considered to be 
electronic resources.

Kari Smith

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:

> Hi-
>
> We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation. 
> We have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that 
> contain items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we 
> have something labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that 
> includes databases and other items.
>
> Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas 
> about how to handle the difference between these?
>
> Thanks!
> jenn
>


[CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Jenn C
Hi-

We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation. We
have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that contain
items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we have something
labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that includes databases
and other items.

Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas about
how to handle the difference between these?

Thanks!
jenn


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Kari R Smith
And if you are including born-digital material from your library or Archives 
and special collections, then you'll want to figure out a way to describe those 
digital collections as well (and as different than digitized physical 
material).  Digital Archives would not, in my opinion, be considered to be 
electronic resources.

Kari Smith

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:

> Hi-
>
> We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation. 
> We have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that 
> contain items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we 
> have something labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that 
> includes databases and other items.
>
> Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas 
> about how to handle the difference between these?
>
> Thanks!
> jenn
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] talking about "digital collections" vs "electronic resources"

2015-03-18 Thread Matt Sherman
I haven't done any testing on that, but your understanding it the
conventional on in the field.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Derek Merleaux 
wrote:

> I've always been inclined to use "digital collections" to talk about a
> collection of things that have been digitized or perhaps including born
> digital things that are part of a "collection" in an archival sort of way.
> I prefer the term "electronic resources" for the databases and other
> things...
> -Derek
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jenn C  wrote:
>
> > Hi-
> >
> > We're having a discussion about some web site labeling and navigation. We
> > have a list of "digital collections" which are collections that contain
> > items we've digitized. There was concern expressed that we have something
> > labeled "digital collections" patrons might think that includes databases
> > and other items.
> >
> > Has anyone done user testing around this or have any experience/ideas
> about
> > how to handle the difference between these?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > jenn
> >
>