[CODE4LIB] Something is messed up with the code4lib wiki main page

[David Fiander]

The main page (http://wiki.code4lib.org/Main_Page) is displaying as 
blank, and the history does not indicate any changes that would cause it 
to be so. In fact, the history for EARLIER changes (eg, my change to 
remove the "new!" text from the link to C4LN) are not displaying 
properly in the diffs.


So, I suspect that something is scrambled.

- David

[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib North: Car pooling from Brock residences to downtown

[David Fiander]

I'm staying at Brock for C4LN this week, but I won't have a car with me, 
so who's going to be around that I could catch a ride with downtown?


- David

[CODE4LIB] Anybody using the Open Library APIs?

[David Fiander]

I'm working on a project that involves collecting information about the
books that people own, and the easiest way to do most of that data
collection is to collect just the ISBNs for those books that have them, and
photograph the title pages of the books that don't. This gets me out of
people way quickly and lets me do my data processing later.

I've asked OCLC about the requirements for getting an affiliate ID for
using their APIs for the project, but while I'm waiting for that, I'm
looking at the Open Library APIs.

The documentation for the APIs is weak, and it looks like it hasn't been
updated for a while. Has anybody used them much, or know what the state of
ongoing development of them is?

All I'm really looking for at this point is a way to convert an ISBN into
basic bibliographic data, and to find any related ISBNs, a la OCLC's xISBN
service.

- David

Re: [CODE4LIB] Anybody using the Open Library APIs?

[David Fiander]

Ross,

You can do it, but it's a two-step process. The RESTful API will give you
the "book" information based on the ISBN, and that book information has the
"work" key in it. So you can then fetch the work details with all the ISBNs
in it, but it's not pretty.

- David
 On Jan 22, 2013 12:57 PM, "Ross Singer"  wrote:

> On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:04 PM, David Fiander  wrote:
> > The documentation for the APIs is weak, and it looks like it hasn't been
> > updated for a while. Has anybody used them much, or know what the state
> of
> > ongoing development of them is?
>
> I am pretty sure that there is no ongoing development of Open Library.
>  Others may be able to provide more details.
> >
> > All I'm really looking for at this point is a way to convert an ISBN into
> > basic bibliographic data, and to find any related ISBNs, a la OCLC's
> xISBN
> > service.
>
> You can't do this via the API, because there's no way to search for
> work_id (at least none that I'm aware of).  I was running an xISBN clone
> with the OL data, but it stopped working when Talis shut down the
> Platform...
>
> The dataset isn't that large, however.  It may be worthwhile to download
> it and create your own xisbn style services.  It might be even better to
> hack up something at Code4lib13 (or, elsewhere) to take the monthly dumps
> and create a similar service.  I imagine you're not alone in wanting this.
>
> -Ross.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Anybody using the Open Library APIs?

[David Fiander]

Karen,

Thanks for the details. Like I said, this is for a research project. So,
while I don't need more than 1,000 requests / day right now, given the
current size of my dataset, it will grow larger in the future. But that
means I can start programming and testing without the affiliate ID, and
then once I've got one, I can stop worrying about getting throttled right
when things are getting exciting.

- David
 On Jan 22, 2013 1:07 PM, "Karen Coombs"  wrote:

> So the xISBN service will give you the workset and basic metadata about
> each item in that workset.
>
>
> http://xisbn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/isbn/0596002815?method=getEditions&format=xml&fl=*
>
> You can get 1000 request/day without even having to get an affiliate ID.
>
> Another possibility is the inline Schema.org markup in WorldCat.org.
>
> You can link into WorldCat by ISBN -
> http://www.worldcat.org/isbn/0451462645
>
> Basic metadata is there in RDFa. There is actually a little demo
> bookmarklet which grabs the metadata from a Schema.org encoded page and
> sends it over so it can be added to Goodreads. -
> http://www.oclc.org/developer/prototypes/schemaorg-markup-extractor
>
> I think the WorldCat.org option is better because it is a little closer to
> getting work level metadata.
>
> Karen
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ross Singer 
> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:04 PM, David Fiander  wrote:
> > > The documentation for the APIs is weak, and it looks like it hasn't
> been
> > > updated for a while. Has anybody used them much, or know what the state
> > of
> > > ongoing development of them is?
> >
> > I am pretty sure that there is no ongoing development of Open Library.
> >  Others may be able to provide more details.
> > >
> > > All I'm really looking for at this point is a way to convert an ISBN
> into
> > > basic bibliographic data, and to find any related ISBNs, a la OCLC's
> > xISBN
> > > service.
> >
> > You can't do this via the API, because there's no way to search for
> > work_id (at least none that I'm aware of).  I was running an xISBN clone
> > with the OL data, but it stopped working when Talis shut down the
> > Platform...
> >
> > The dataset isn't that large, however.  It may be worthwhile to download
> > it and create your own xisbn style services.  It might be even better to
> > hack up something at Code4lib13 (or, elsewhere) to take the monthly dumps
> > and create a similar service.  I imagine you're not alone in wanting
> this.
> >
> > -Ross.
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Anybody using the Open Library APIs?

[David Fiander]

Oh, we're cataloguing members. And the head of tech services has already
emailed out contact about what needs to happen for me to get hooked up.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Karen Coombs wrote:

> So when you need a higher level of access you'll have to fill out an xISBN
> request and have your eligibility verified. Your library has to be a
> cataloging member to get the higher level of access but we can tweak the
> usage based on your needs if you're eligible.
>
> Karen
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, David Fiander  wrote:
>
> > Karen,
> >
> > Thanks for the details. Like I said, this is for a research project. So,
> > while I don't need more than 1,000 requests / day right now, given the
> > current size of my dataset, it will grow larger in the future. But that
> > means I can start programming and testing without the affiliate ID, and
> > then once I've got one, I can stop worrying about getting throttled right
> > when things are getting exciting.
> >
> > - David
> >  On Jan 22, 2013 1:07 PM, "Karen Coombs" 
> wrote:
> >
> > > So the xISBN service will give you the workset and basic metadata about
> > > each item in that workset.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://xisbn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/isbn/0596002815?method=getEditions&format=xml&fl=*
> > >
> > > You can get 1000 request/day without even having to get an affiliate
> ID.
> > >
> > > Another possibility is the inline Schema.org markup in WorldCat.org.
> > >
> > > You can link into WorldCat by ISBN -
> > > http://www.worldcat.org/isbn/0451462645
> > >
> > > Basic metadata is there in RDFa. There is actually a little demo
> > > bookmarklet which grabs the metadata from a Schema.org encoded page and
> > > sends it over so it can be added to Goodreads. -
> > > http://www.oclc.org/developer/prototypes/schemaorg-markup-extractor
> > >
> > > I think the WorldCat.org option is better because it is a little closer
> > to
> > > getting work level metadata.
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ross Singer 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:04 PM, David Fiander 
> wrote:
> > > > > The documentation for the APIs is weak, and it looks like it hasn't
> > > been
> > > > > updated for a while. Has anybody used them much, or know what the
> > state
> > > > of
> > > > > ongoing development of them is?
> > > >
> > > > I am pretty sure that there is no ongoing development of Open
> Library.
> > > >  Others may be able to provide more details.
> > > > >
> > > > > All I'm really looking for at this point is a way to convert an
> ISBN
> > > into
> > > > > basic bibliographic data, and to find any related ISBNs, a la
> OCLC's
> > > > xISBN
> > > > > service.
> > > >
> > > > You can't do this via the API, because there's no way to search for
> > > > work_id (at least none that I'm aware of).  I was running an xISBN
> > clone
> > > > with the OL data, but it stopped working when Talis shut down the
> > > > Platform...
> > > >
> > > > The dataset isn't that large, however.  It may be worthwhile to
> > download
> > > > it and create your own xisbn style services.  It might be even better
> > to
> > > > hack up something at Code4lib13 (or, elsewhere) to take the monthly
> > dumps
> > > > and create a similar service.  I imagine you're not alone in wanting
> > > this.
> > > >
> > > > -Ross.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Hotel registration - This was a test, right?

[David Fiander]

But then you would get fewer nickels. We need to figure out the equilibrium
point for this function now.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 21:23, Cary Gordon  wrote:

> I concur.
>
> If I had a nickel for every clueless person who makes more money than
> me, I would make more money than I do.
>
> Cary
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Joe Hourcle
>  wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> >
> >> I just registered for an overflow block room at
> >>
> https://resweb.passkey.com/Resweb.do?mode=welcome_gi_new&groupID=7466136
> >>
> >> I noticed when I got to the Guest Details page that there was a
> >> checkbox in the Contact Information block -- "Yes, I'd like to be
> >> notified…" -- which was checked (not surprising) and not changeable
> >> (that was surprising). Peeking at the code, I noticed that the form
> >> tag had the words, "checked" and "disabled".
> >>
> >> Now, since nobody could be so slimy as to do this intentionally
> >> (right?). I helped them out by using my in-browser editor to correct
> >> this oversight, because I wouldn't want them to waste electrons
> >> sending me email that I don't want.
> >
> > Unless they're doing something to un-disable the form when you submit,
> > there shouldn't be an issue in most browsers, as the 'disable' also
> implies
> > 'don't bother sending when submitting'.
> >
> > It's implied in the HTML4 spec, but I don't know if it's required
> behavior:
> >
> >http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.12
> >
> >
> > Now, if they had set it 'readonly', then yes, you should worry.  Or that
> > whoever made the form doesn't know what they're doing, and as I've
> > often found out, those people seem to get paid way more money than
> > I do even though they're clueless.
> >
> >
> > -Joe
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cary Gordon
> The Cherry Hill Company
> http://chillco.com
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

[David Fiander]

Another alternative would be to do what Science Online does: open
registration in tranches. So, from Monday to Thursday, each day at noon
Eastern, 50 registration slots open.

- David

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:05, Edward M. Corrado wrote:

> I would be against making C4L any bigger. There are already bigger
> conferences one can attend to. Not only because it will lose the feel,
> but it will become more expensive, limit locations, and harder to
> host. Being involved with a conference that attracts 500+ people, I
> can tell yo that it is a lot different then a 200 or 250 person
> conference to plan. If C4L did get much bigger, I would very likely
> take my "USB drives and [my] lappies and go home." Still, if a larger
> conference is what everyone else wanted, that would be fine with me
> but I very well might miss my first C4L in that case. Personally, I'd
> rather see it smaller.
>
> As far as a solution: I think the solution is to host more regional
> C4L conferences like the New England people have been discussing.
>
> Edward
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata war stories...

[David Fiander]

Stephen, regarding the question of ambiguity about chronology vs
enumeration, this is what I did with my parser:

# If items are identified by chronology only, with no separate
# enumeration (eg, a newspaper issue), then the chronology is
# recorded in the enumeration subfields $a - $f.  We can tell
# that this is the case if there are $a - $f subfields and no
# chronology subfields ($i-$k), and none of the $a-$f subfields
# have associated $u or $v subfields, but there's a $w and no $x

So, if there are ONLY enumeration fields, and none of the enumeration
fields have corresponding frequency or continuity indicators, AND there's a
publication frequency but no indication of when in the calendar the highest
level of enumeration changes, THEN the enumerations are really chronology.

Of course, this will still get certain patterns wrong, but it's the best
one can do.


On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:37, Stephen Meyer wrote:

> War is hell, right? Lately we have been dealing with a particular
> combination of two circles of the metadata Inferno: the first (limbo) and
> sixth (heresy):
>
> The limbo I'll define as a poorly designed metadata spec: the MARC
> holdings standard. The poor design in question is the ambiguity of
> enumeration/chronology subfield assignment, specifically this rule:
>
>  When only chronology is used on an item (that is, the item
>  carries no enumeration), the chronology is contained in the
>  relevant enumeration subfield ($a-$h) instead of the chronology
>  subfields ($i-$m).
>  
> http://www.loc.gov/marc/**holdings/hd863865.html
>
> This means that as a programmer trying to parse enumeration and chronology
> data from our holdings data *that uses a standard* I cannot reliably know
> that a subfield which has been defined as containing "First level of
> enumeration" will in fact contain enumeration rather than chronology.
> What's a programmer to do? Limbo, limbo.
>
> Others in this thread have already described the common heresy involved in
> MARC cataloging: embedding data in a record intended for a single
> institution, or worse, a specific OPAC.
>
> Due to the ambiguity in the spec and the desire to just make it look the
> way I want it to look in my OPAC, the temptation is simply too great. In
> the end, we have data that couldn't possibly meet the standard as it is
> described and means that we spend more time than we expected parsing it in
> the next system.
>
> In our case we work through these issues with an army of code tests. Our
> catalogers and reference staff find broken examples of MARC holdings data
> parsing in our newest discovery system, we gather the real-world MARC
> records as a test data set and then we write a bunch of Rspec tests so we
> don't undo previous bug fixes as we deal with the current ones. The
> challenge is coming up with a fast and responsive mechanism/process for
> adding a record to the test set once identified.
>
> -Steve
>
> Bess Sadler wrote, On 1/27/12 8:26 PM:
>
>  I remember the "required field" operation of... aught six? aught seven?
>> It all runs together at my age. Turns out, for years people had been making
>> shell catalog records for items in the collection that needed to be checked
>> out but hadn't yet been barcoded. Some percentage of these people opted not
>> to record any information about the item other than the barcode it left the
>> building under, presumably because they were "in a hurry". If there was
>> such a thing as a metadata crime, that'd be it.
>>
>> We were young and naive, we thought "why not just index all our catalog
>> records into solr?" Little did we know what unholy abominations we would
>> uncover. Out of nowhere, we were surrounded by zombie marc records,
>> horrible half-created things, never meant to roam the earth or even to
>> exist in a sane mind. They could tell us nothing about who they were, what
>> book they had once tried to describe, they could only stare blankly and
>> repeat in mangled agony "required field!" "required field!" "required
>> field!" over and over…
>>
>> It took us weeks to put them all out of their misery.
>>
>> This is the first time I've ever spoken of this publicly. The support
>> group is helping with the nightmares, but sometimes still, I wake in a cold
>> sweat, wondering… did we really find them all?
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote:
>>
>>  EDIT ME
>>>
>>> http://ead.lib.virginia.edu/**vivaxtf/view?docId=uva-sc/**
>>> viu00888.xml;query=;brand=**default#adminlink
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Roy Tennant
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Oh, I should have also mentioned that some of the worst problems occur
 when people treat their metadata like it will never leave their
 institution. When that happens you get all kinds of crazy cruft in a
 record. For example, just off the top of my head:

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib North : May 2012 : The University of Windsor : is a go!

[David Fiander]

Don't forget that May 21 is Victoria Day, so that could be a either a good
thing or a bad thing for scheduling at the end of the previous week.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:07, Mita Williams wrote:

> The third installment of Code4Lib North is a go!
>
> http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/North#Third_Meeting:_University_of_Windsor.2C_May_.3F.3F.3F.2C_2012
>
> We have the okay from our administration, we (tentatively) we have a place
> to meet up in the University's new Engineering Building, and we have a team
> of folks from the Leddy Library who will endeavour to extend the same kind
> hospitality that both McMaster and Queen's University demonstrated in the
> past.  And there's a chance that we might be able to hold a social event in
> the soon to be reopened Walkerville Brewery.
>
> Code4Lib Community: do have any suggestions for what sort of format we
> should pursue?  At the moment, I'm thinking along the lines of being two
> days with the first being a hackfest and the second being lightning talks
> and presentations.  Should we also include an 'ask me anything' on the
> first day? the second?  If we get the space we want, we might have access
> to a 3D printer.  Should we try to incorporate some hardware hacking?
> Also, we're not well versed in livestreaming and archiving video of
> presentations here but if it's important to the community, we can give it
> our best shot.  How important is live video/archived video to you?
>
> And perhaps, most importantly, what week in May would work best for you?
>
> Here are some mitigating factors (please let me know of any that I may have
> missed)
>
> - April 20-22 : GreatLakes THATCamp (London, Ontario)
> - May 5th : Weird Al is playing the Detroit Fox Theatre
> - June/July : tentative Code4Lib Midwest meetup at Michigan State
>
> Please let me know, on or off-list. Thanks!
> Mita
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main page

[David Fiander]

Would the "upright code4lib brigade" be opposed by the "horizontal code4lib
posse"?


On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:49, Bohyun Kim  wrote:

> In my defense, I didn't pick the term, 'indoctrination.'  =)  But it shows
> something about the community, eh?  The alternative title to the doc that
> someone added is also "How do we make code4lib a more inclusive place for
> newcomers? Or, how do we quickly indoctrinate newbies to our values and
> ways of doing things?"
>
> But again, these titles show that anyone can name things and it is likely
> to stick. So it is open to all to make changes. Perhaps some of us should
> form the Upright Code4Lib Brigade against the Indoctrination.
>
> Cheers,
> ~Bohyun
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Wilfred Drew
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki
> main page
>
> When I saw the subject I immediately thought of the Borg: You will be
> assimilated.
> -
> Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S.
> Assistant Professor
> Librarian, Systems and Tech Services
> Tompkins Cortland Community College  (TC3) Library:
> http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139
> E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu
> Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406
> AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4
> Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew
> StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication
> http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/
> 
> From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun
> Kim [k...@fiu.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:55 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Indoctrination link added to the Wiki main
> page
>
> Since the Code4Lib wiki is live again, I put the link to "Code4Lib
> Indoctrination<
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-9VtL7L_fUxl2hTF_YZSdFRfucaLtmHvLSzom6XPVM/edit?pli=1>"
> Google Doc on the main page.
>
> Feel free to move to a different page if the main page is not the right
> place.
> http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#About_Code4Lib
>
> If you haven't checked out the Google Doc, it's worth looking at.
>
> ~Bohyun
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] It's all job postings!

[David Fiander]

I'd buy that shirt.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Doran, Michael D  wrote:
>> Second the motion to stop beating this dead horse.
>
>
>
> Dang, and I was already working on this 2013 conference t-shirt design...
>
>
>
> [cid:image001.png@01CD7ABE.541F6150]
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
>
>> Friscia, Michael
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:46 AM
>
>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] It's all job postings!
>
>>
>
>> Second the motion to stop beating this dead horse.
>
>>
>
>> ___
>
>> Michael Friscia
>
>> Manager, Digital Library & Programming Services
>
>>
>
>> Yale University Library
>
>> (203) 432-1856
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> -Original Message-
>
>> From: Code for Libraries 
>> [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] 
>> On Behalf Of
>
>> Carol Bean
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:43 AM
>
>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] It's all job postings!
>
>>
>
>> No.
>
>>
>
>> Just no. Vote taken. Preferences noted. Done.
>
>>
>
>> Carol
>
>>
>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>
>
>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Graham Triggs 
>> mailto:grahamtri...@gmail.com>>
>
>> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> > On 6 August 2012 13:19, Ed Summers mailto:e...@pobox.com>> 
>> > wrote:
>
>> >> 150 people responded about whether jobs.code4lib.org posting should
>
>> >> come to the discussion list:
>
>> >>
>
>> >>yes: 132
>
>> >>no: 10
>
>> >>who cares: 8
>
>> >>
>
>> >> 93% in support or agnostic seems to be a good indicator that the
>
>> >> postings should continue to come to the list for now.
>
>> >
>
>> > I'm not entirely convinced about that assessment. I quite readily
>
>> > agree that the jobs should be posted to *a* mailing list, I'm not so
>
>> > sure that it should be this mailing list.
>
>> >
>
>> > It's been discussed about filtering the jobs sent to the list, but I
>
>> > already filter the code4lib mailing list into a tag. It's been a bit
>
>> > of a faff, but I've subdivided the filtering so that I can get the
>
>> > messages sent from jobs@... to go to a different tag. But then Ed
>
>> > replied to one, so now it appears in both tags, and because I'm using
>
>> > Gmail, it takes the whole thread with it.
>
>> >
>
>> > So filtering really isn't a solution.
>
>> >
>
>> > Rather than just asking whether jobs should come to this mailing list,
>
>> > maybe we can ask whether a separate mailing list should be set up,
>
>> > specifically for jobs. The two mailing lists could be cross promoted
>
>> > (e.g. a standard footer), and people can choose whether they want or
>
>> > don't want to receive them. And we can still have
>
>> > discussions/follow-ups about those jobs on that mailing list.
>
>> >
>
>> > Even though the vast majority of the postings aren't applicable to me,
>
>> > I would probably still sign up to a separate jobs mailing list as it
>
>> > is of interest - but I would at least then be able to keep that
>
>> > separate from the main discussions, which is something I can't
>
>> > effectively do right now.
>
>> >
>
>> > G

Re: [CODE4LIB] EPUB and ILS indexing update : Question on CIP Usage for e-books

[David Fiander]

On 12-11-05 10:31, Henri-Damien LAURENT wrote:
> Hi
> I have managed to create marcrecord from epub files fairly easily :
>   a) unzip my_epub.epub content.opf
>   b) xsltproc DC2MARC21slim.xsl content.opf >my_epub.marcxml
> And you get a fairly good MARC21slim bibliorecord. Thanks Library of
> Congress for your wonderful xslts.
> Some notes :
>  ** EPUB files happen to contain my_epub.opf rather than content.opf,
> but this is rather anecdotic. One could use
> for i in *.epub
> do
> unzip $i *.opf -d `basename $i epub`
> done
>and get a list of directories containing the *.opf file.

The OPF file in an EPUB can have any name at all. The correct way to
find the OPF file is top open the container.xml file in the EPUB and
parse it, looking for the  tag that specifies the OPF name.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Gender Survey

[David Fiander]

This just sounds like you don't care about counting the gender variant
members of the community.


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Rosalyn Metz  wrote:

> I'm going to leave it as is for now, let's think of this as a first draft.
> As I think I said to the list (not sure because lots of people have
> contacted me directly) I'd hate to change it now because that'd just make
> the first half of the answers useless/inconsistent/different than the rest.
>
> Next time around we can add in an other option. Sound good?
> On Nov 27, 2012 4:22 PM, "Gabriel Farrell"  wrote:
>
> > Great first step, Rosalyn. Could we include an "other" for those in the
> > community that may not be covered by the gender binary?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ross Singer 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm pretty sure I said "if you're unsure" which means maybe you've
> never
> > > thought about it or not really clear as to what 'part of the community'
> > > means.
> > >
> > > I mean, I'm not trying to annex the unsuspecting or anything.
> > >
> > > -Ross.
> > >
> > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Um, no.  Anyone who takes the survey has to have gotten the incoming
> > link
> > > > from somewhere.  This listserv is the most likely source.  So, by
> your
> > > > definition almost anyone with the URL for the survey is a community
> > > > member.
> > > >
> > > > Self-defining as part of the community is about how people see their
> > > role.
> > > > Otherwise the survey could just list all those things you said and
> ask
> > if
> > > > the person did them.
> > > >
> > > > -Wilhelmina Randtke
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ross Singer 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> To second Rosy's point, if you are unsure if you are 'part of the
> > > >> community' and you can answer yes to any of the following questions,
> > you
> > > >> absolutely can say 'yes' in the survey:
> > > >>
> > > >> You are on the CODE4LIB mailing list
> > > >> You have attended a Code4Lib conference
> > > >> You have submitted to a CfP to a Code4Lib conference
> > > >> You tried to attend a Code4Lib conference but didn't register in
> time
> > > >> You have a registered account on code4lib.org
> > > >> You have a registered account on wiki.code4lib.org
> > > >> You have submitted to or read the Code4lib journal
> > > >> You follow planet.code4lib.org
> > > >> You have been in the #code4lib IRC channel
> > > >>
> > > >> What I'm saying is that Code4Lib's "community" takes a lot of forms,
> > > don't
> > > >> feel you need to be a regular in the IRC channel or something.
> > > >>
> > > >> -Ross.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Rosalyn Metz 
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> To our dear dear lurking friends,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We would also like you to take the survey.  I put the "Do you
> > consider
> > > >>> yourself a part of the Code4Lib community." question in the survey
> > > >> because
> > > >>> I  wanted to make sure that people that were part of Code4Lib were
> > > >>> separated from the random people that might take the survey -- like
> > oh
> > > >> say
> > > >>> my mom (I'm not kidding, she would take the survey if she saw it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But then I was reminded that I once thought I wasn't part of the
> > > >> community.
> > > >>> I read the listserv all the time and then I decided to start a
> blog.
> > >  And
> > > >>> then I went to a conference where I gave a lightning talk.  And now
> > > >> Michael
> > > >>> Klein is yelling at me to come back to the conference and IRC chat
> > > room.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So now my hope for that question is that folks like you -- who
> think
> > > they
> > > >>> are just a lurker -- will take the survey and respond no to the
> first
> > > >>> question.  Then maybe we can figure out a way to turn some of those
> > nos
> > > >> to
> > > >>> yeses.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> :)
> > > >>> A former lurker
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Rosalyn Metz <
> rosalynm...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > >  Ok Folks,
> > > 
> > >  I'm starting off small.  Let's do a quick survey of the community
> > and
> > > >> see
> > >  what the gender breakdown is.
> > > 
> > >  Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68G5TBG
> > > 
> > >  It should take 1 minute to fill out.  It closes at the end of the
> > day
> > >  Friday (midnight).  I'll share the results here on Monday when
> we're
> > > all
> > >  back to work and can have a lively discussion about what they
> mean.
> > > >> Expect
> > >  a chart (I like charts in addition to surveys).
> > > 
> > >  Rosalyn
> > > 
> > >  P.S. can someone share on the twitters?
> > > 
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>

[CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?

[David Fiander]

So far on the wiki the proposals for the location range from the
center of known space to "let's all visit Dan!":

- Toronto
- Kingston
- Ottawa
- Sudbury
- Montreal

Given some of the far-flung people who have expressed interest in the
meeting, including some people in Wisconsin (!), it would be
interesting to figure out the weighted average travel time required
for all of these locations, but I suspect that that would just mean we
end up in Toronto, again.

I just added Montreal to the list, just because, hey, it's Montreal!
But then, we'd have to find somebody at McGill to act as our host.

If we're going to be meeting in April/May, then it's probably time to
start the discussion about site selection so that when the decision is
made, the hosts will have time to make the arrangements and so that
people travelling have enough lead time to make cheap travel
arrangements.

- David

Re: [CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?

[David Fiander]

Of course, as a corollary to the fact that all the locations being
discussed are Canadian (well, except for Montreal), any Americans
resident in the USA on the list do need to make sure that their
passports will be valid through to the end of May, at least, in order
to ensure you will be able to attend.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:10, Thomas Dowling  wrote:
> On 01/20/2010 02:03 PM, Glen Newton wrote:
>> Hmmm. No one has brought up how increasingly onerous it has become to
>> travel to the U.S., as a Canadian or non-U.S resident (and
>> particularly for non-Canadian, non-US residents who are fingerprinted
>> on each visit!). This should should not be discounted, as much as I
>> enjoy visiting place like Montpelier, close to where I have some good
>> friends...
>
>
> We could have a joint meeting in Sarnia/Port Huron and just shout across the
> river to each other!  (Windsor/Detroit might be too loud.)
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?

[David Fiander]

I'm not sure, but everybody entering the US is required to present a
passport or other "enhanced" ID, so if the Americans don't have
passports, it's more that they can't go home without.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:36, Walter Lewis  wrote:
> On 20 Jan 10, at 2:30 PM, David Fiander wrote:
>
>> Of course, as a corollary to the fact that all the locations being
>> discussed are Canadian (well, except for Montreal), any Americans
>> resident in the USA on the list do need to make sure that their
>> passports will be valid through to the end of May, at least, in order
>> to ensure you will be able to attend.
>
> Is Canadian customs now requiring US Passports?  Used to be Hotel California: 
>  you could come over, but without your passport you couldn't go home.
>
> Walter
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?

[David Fiander]

Walter plans on going to Kingston by way of Buffalo and Cape Vincent,
just so he can take the ferries.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 14:45, Walter Lewis  wrote:
> On 20 Jan 10, at 2:39 PM, Wendy Huot wrote:
>
>> Regarding travel to Kingston:
>>
>> * For an interesting drive from upstate NY, you can get from Cape Vincent, 
>> NY to Kingston by way of Wolfe Island + ferry.
>
> Driving across the Thousand Islands Bridge is faster, but the "interesting" 
> quotient goes way up via Wolfe Island  (two ferries: one cheap, one free)
>
> Walter
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Kingston? And now the date (was Re: [CODE4LIB] Location of the first Code4Lib North meeting?)

[David Fiander]

I concur. Thursday afternoon/evening and all day Friday works for me.

+1 Thursday-Friday 6-7 May


On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 06:45, John Fereira  wrote:
> MJ Suhonos wrote:
>>
>> +1 Thursday-Friday 6-7 May here as well.
>>
> As long as things don't get started until late afternoon or early evening on
> Thursday that would give those close enough to drive the option of driving
> to Kingston on Thursday morning or even working part of the day on Thursday.
>   Other than that, Thu-Fri 6-7 sounds fine.
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Sunday in Asheville

[David Fiander]

Seriously, are any other sports going to be broadcast during that time slot?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 14:51, Julia Bauder  wrote:
> Ooh!  Ooh!  I want to watch the hockey game!  (As long as y'all won't throw
> things at me if I root for Canada)  They have an NHL team in North
> Carolina--there have to be SOME hockey fans in the state.
>
> The Bier Garden is listed as a sports bar on Yelp, and their Web site says
> they have 16 televisions -- I'm sure we can convince them to tune a measly
> one TV to the hockey game.
>
> Julia
>
>
>
> *
>
> Julia Bauder
>
> Data Services Librarian
>
> Grinnell College Libraries
>
>  Sixth Ave.
>
> Grinnell, IA 50112
>
>
>
> 641-269-4431
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Andrew Darby  wrote:
>
>> There's also the Canada/US Olympic men's hockey game on Sunday night
>> at 7:30 EST.  Finding an establishment willing to turn it on might be
>> a challenge, though . . . .
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Tania Fersenheim 
>> wrote:
>> > I emailed them a few questions awhile ago at he...@monkpub.com and they
>> > answered within a few hours, from the address ba...@monkpub.com.
>> > They seem to have a decent non-Belgian tap list as well.
>> >
>> > Tania
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tania Fersenheim
>> > Manager of Library Systems
>> >
>> > Brandeis University
>> > Library and Technology Services
>> >
>> > 415 South Street, (MS 017/P.O. Box 549110)
>> > Waltham, MA 02454-9110
>> > Phone: 781.736.4698
>> > Fax: 781.736.4577
>> > email: tan...@brandeis.edu
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On
>> >> Behalf Of Doran, Michael D
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:06 AM
>> >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Sunday in Asheville
>> >>
>> >> Hi Mike,
>> >>
>> >> > the Thirsty Monk [1].  It's a half-mile from the conference
>> >> hotel, so
>> >> > it's easily walkable/stumbleable.
>> >> >
>> >> >  1. http://www.yelp.com/biz/thirsty-monk-pub-asheville
>> >>
>> >> The Yelp entry has their address being 50 Commerce St,
>> >> Asheville, NC 28801.  However their website
>> >> (http://www.monkpub.com/) has them at 92 Patton Ave,
>> >> Asheville, NC 28801 (which is even closer to the conference
>> >> hotel).  Google maps now has Hookah Joe's at the 50 Commerce
>> >> St address, so perhaps the Thirsty Monk has moved.  They are
>> >> not answering their phone (828-254-5470) this early, but I
>> >> will try them later on to get clarification.
>> >>
>> >> > I hope to run into some of you folks there.  If you're into Belgian
>> >> > beer and a different pub atmosphere, do join me.
>> >>
>> >> Belgian beer is my favorite, so I plan on going (even if you
>> >> are going to be there -- just teasing!).  I didn't notice any
>> >> Atomium on draft, though (previewing the beer menu is how I
>> >> happened to notice the address discrepancy).
>> >>
>> >> -- Michael
>> >>
>> >> # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian
>> >> # University of Texas at Arlington
>> >> # 817-272-5326 office
>> >> # 817-688-1926 mobile
>> >> # do...@uta.edu
>> >> # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > -Original Message-
>> >> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> > Michael J. Giarlo
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:39 AM
>> >> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> >> > Subject: [CODE4LIB] Sunday in Asheville
>> >> >
>> >> > Folks,
>> >> >
>> >> > We have a fabulous slate of social activities lined up for
>> >> this year's
>> >> > conference in Asheville (thanks to, well, y'all).  But those of you
>> >> > arriving on Sunday will notice there are no planned outings that
>> >> > night!  Oh noez!  Well, I'm planning to spend my post-dinner time at
>> >> > the Thirsty Monk [1].  It's a half-mile from the conference
>> >> hotel, so
>> >> > it's easily walkable/stumbleable.
>> >> >
>> >> > I hope to run into some of you folks there.  If you're into Belgian
>> >> > beer and a different pub atmosphere, do join me.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Mike
>> >> >
>> >> > P.S. If you'd like to reach me via phone, my number is: the NJ area
>> >> > code beginning with seven, followed by the numerically lower Santa
>> >> > Monica (CA) area code, followed by the sum of the prior
>> >> value added to
>> >> > the number of the beast, padded with one zero.
>> >> >
>> >> >  1. http://www.yelp.com/biz/thirsty-monk-pub-asheville
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Darby
>> Web Services Librarian
>> Ithaca College Library
>> http://www.ithaca.edu/library/
>> ada...@ithaca.edu
>>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] mailing list administratativia

[David Fiander]

Ray, I think that the constraint makes more sense as a positive real number.
While the length of a thread will never be exactly a non-integer length, it
will eventually exceed any finite real-valued limit imposed, which is all
that's necessary.

(Actually, the "non-negative" part is optional. A limit that is <= 0 will
still allow the first message through before the list is throttled.)

- David

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 18:18, Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress <
r...@loc.gov> wrote:

> I think the constraint is that it has to be a rational number.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
> Eric
> Hellman
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:58 PM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] mailing list administratativia
>
> I vote for changing the limit threshold to
>
> PI * (eventual length of this meta-thread).
>
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Alexander Johannesen wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Doran, Michael D  wrote:
> >> Can that limit threshold be raised?  If so, are there reasons why it
> should not be raised?
> >
> > Is it to throttle spam or something? 50 seems rather low, and it's
> > rather depressing to have a lively discussion throttled like that. Not
> > to mention I thought I was simply kicked out for living things up
> > (especially given my reasonable follow-up was where the throttling
> > began).
> >
> > Alex
> > --
> >  Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic
> > Maps
> > --- http://shelter.nu/blog/
> > --
> > -- http://www.google.com/profiles/alexander.johannesen
> > ---
>
> Eric Hellman
> President, Gluejar, Inc.
> 41 Watchung Plaza, #132
> Montclair, NJ 07042
> USA
>
> e...@hellman.net
> http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/
> @gluejar
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available

[David Fiander]

Yes, LibLime took that code that I wrote for the Evergreen OpenILS project
and incorporated it into the Koha codebase without attribution. Once it was
finished, it was pretty stable, and there have been very few problems with
it, although I have heard that there might be problems with the checksum
code on 64-bit servers.

- David

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 14:18, Schneider, Wayne  wrote:

> There is a perl implementation of the server (or ACS, in SIP
> terminology) side, which I believe is incorporated into the Koha code. A
> CVS repository is available from SourceForge
> (http://openncip.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openncip/). It doesn't
> appear to be too actively worked on at the moment. I don't know if how
> helpful it will be, since you're probably looking at libraries for the
> client side, but there may be useful stuff in there for you.
>
>wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
> Migell Acosta
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:19 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available
>
> Hello everyone, my name is Migell Acosta and I am new to the list.  I am
> at the County of Los Angeles Public Library.
>
> I am interested in developing our own automated check in system because
> the commercial offerings are a bit pricey and not very innovative.
>
> So, my task will be to write the user interface, but I'd like to avoid
> writing the SIP2 component from scratch.  Does anyone know of a SIP2 SDK
> or software library available as FOSS or paid license?  I'm not too
> picky about programming language.  We have a developer on staff who can
> adapt to a few different languages.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
>
> Migell Acosta
> County of Los Angeles Public Library
> Interim Assistant Director, Information Systems
> 562-940-8418
> maco...@library.lacounty.gov
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] to link or not to link: PURLs

[David Fiander]

If you don't have any confidence in the URL, then why would you bother
giving it out at all? Links are links. Make them active.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 14:57, Pottinger, Hardy J.  wrote:

> Hi, this topic has come up for discussion with some of my colleagues, and I
> was hoping to get a few other perspectives. For a public interface to a
> repository and/or digital library, would you make the handle/PURL an active
> hyperlink, or just provide the URL in text form? And why?
>
> My feeling is, making the URL an active hyperlink implies confidence in the
> PURL/Handle, and provides the user with functionality they expect of a
> hyperlink (right or option-click to copy, or bookmark).
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> --
> HARDY POTTINGER 
> University of Missouri Library Systems
> http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/
> "No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone,
> turn back." --Turkish proverb
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib North | Meetup!

[David Fiander]

Right now both weekends work for me.  I know that for me, and probably for
many others, the sooner the date is made firm, the easier it will be to make
sure that the chosen one *cough* will stay free for this.

- David


On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 13:02, Graham McCarthy  wrote:

> +1 for full day hackfest. both weekends work for me too!
>
> On 18 February 2011 08:55, Jennifer O'Donnell <
> jennifer.s.odonn...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > +1 for a full day hackfest.  Thanks for organising this Nick and John!
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Dileshni Jayasinghe <
> > d.jayasin...@utoronto.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > Vote for a full day hackfest too. More time to come up with something
> > > interesting.
> > >
> > > Dileshni
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim Ribaric wrote:
> > >
> > >> code4lib North ++
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for putting this together.
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf
> Of
> > >> William Denton
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:15 PM
> > >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib North | Meetup!
> > >>
> > >> On 17 February 2011, Nick Ruest wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> It is getting close to that time to start planning for another
> Code4Lib
> > >>> North meetup! In anticipation, John Fink and I have been working
> behind
> > the
> > >>> scenes here at McMaster to convince our administration to allow us to
> > throw
> > >>> in proposal to host it.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Hurray!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> When
> > >>> - May 5/6, 2011 or May 12/13, 2011
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Those both seem like good dates.  And they both work for me.  I'd love
> > to
> > >> come.
> > >>
> > >> I vote for a full-day hackfest, though.  A half-day isn't enough to
> > really
> > >> get into things.  I don't mind getting my own lunch.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Nick and John.  I'm looking forward to it.
> > >>
> > >> Bill
> > >> --
> > >> William Denton, Toronto : miskatonic.org www.frbr.org openfrbr.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dileshni Jayasinghe
> > > Programmer Analyst
> > > Scholars Portal, OCUL
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Graham McCarthy
> Innovative Technologies Librarian
> Ryerson University
> 350 Victoria St. Toronto ON M5B 2K3
>
> p: 416 979 5000 x2119
> f: 416 979 5215
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] A suggested role for text mining in library catalogs?

[David Fiander]

One of the difficulties with your surface analysis of Thoreau vs Austen is
that Thoreau wrote a memoir and Austen wrote fictional narrative. If the
texts were available, it might be interesting to see how something like
Bridget Jones compares. It will clearly have a lot of female 3rd person in
it, but it will also have a lot of 1st person.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 19:02, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:

> On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Cindy Harper wrote:
>
> > It's not ironic - my post was musing inspired by your work.  I guess I
> wasn't sure if I understood your results. You were looking at the overall
> POS usage in the entire texts as a possible way of ranking the texts. I was
> wondering about POS of particular search terms - those that could take on
> several POS
>
>
> Initially I wanted to see if I could classify works based on their POS
> usage. [1] I was hoping to find lots of action verbs in one work and call it
> an action story. I was hoping to find lots of nouns in another story and
> call it... I don't know, something else. Instead, after rudimentary
> investigation, I discovered that all of of the works I analyzed had the same
> relative percentage of nouns, pronouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, etc.
> Maybe such a thing is indicative of the English language.
>
> On the other hand, I did notice a difference in the use of particular
> pronouns between works. In Walden by Thoreau, a story about an individual
> living on the banks of a "pond", there was a lot of use of the word "I", but
> in a different story, where the author and his brother canoe down a river,
> the word "we" predominated. Similarly, three Jane Austen stories have many
> words like "she" and "her" where those words are less frequent in the works
> by Thoreau. While my analysis was trivial and thin, I think we might be able
> to classify some works by gender or speaking voice.
>
> Similar things may be possible with other parts-of-speech, like adjectives,
> specifically colors. For example 214 of the 117,540 words in Walden (0.18%)
> are colors  [1] But only 13  of 121,917 words in Pride and Prejudice (0.01%)
> are color words. Despite the similar lengths of the works, Walden is 18
> times more "colorful" than Pride. Interesting? This only begs other
> questions. Is 0.18% a high value or a low value? Is the relative use of
> colors similar within a particular author or not? Has the use of color
> changed over time or indicative of genres? Does the use of specific colors
> actually denote mood?
>
> In the past libraries did not have a whole lot of full text in order to
> evaluate content. That is not true now-a-days. It is now possible to
> literally count and measure a book's characteristics. Since this metadata is
> numeric in nature, it lends itself to visualization. (Think Karen C's
> presentation at Code4Lib.) And this whole thing is good fodder for search,
> discovery, and evaluation. Too much of our metadata is qualitative.
>
>
> [1] foray's into POS - http://bit.ly/aM2eZx
> [2] color words in Walden - http://t.co/hlg5ibL
> [3] color words in Pride - http://t.co/VflNf3n
>
> --
> Eric Lease Morgan
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] geo-locating email domains

[David Fiander]

Hmm.. Now I'm wondering if there's a DNS record type that would let me
associate geolocation information with my vanity domain, which is really a
Google Apps domain.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 13:14, Walker, David  wrote:

> Oh, I'm sure there is *a* contingent in the Bay Area.
>
> But Roy threw down the gauntlet, saying NorCal was more into Code4lib than
> SoCal.  I ain't letting no gmail accounts inflate his numbers. ;-)
>
> --Dave
>
> ==
> David Walker
> Library Web Services Manager
> California State University
> http://xerxes.calstate.edu
> 
> From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric
> Lease Morgan [emor...@nd.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:08 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] geo-locating email domains
>
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Walker, David wrote:
>
> >>> http://bit.ly/hdL55U
> >
> > But doesn't the large circle over the Bay Area come from all the gmail
> accounts hosted in Mountain View?
>
> No, not exactly.
>
> Yes, much of the area is centered around Mountain View (Gmail), but as you
> zoom in you see there is a contingent of folks in the Bay Area --
> http://bit.ly/hZdAPN
>
> --
> Eric Morgan
>

[CODE4LIB] Usability evaluation of library online catalogues

[David Fiander]

A New Zealand based study published by the ACM

White, H., Wright, T., and Chawner, B. 2006. Usability evaluation of
library online catalogues. In Proceedings of the 7th Australasian User
interface Conference - Volume 50 (Hobart, Australia, January 16 - 19,
2006). W. Piekarski, Ed. ACM International Conference Proceeding
Series, vol. 169. Australian Computer Society, Darlinghurst,
Australia, 69-72.

Money quote from abstract:

"The evaluation found severe usability problems with online
catalogues--we found so many problems we were forced to use a card
sorting technique to understand and classify the problems."

Re: [CODE4LIB] Usability evaluation of library online catalogues

[David Fiander]

Markus,

Thanks. It's also available in the ACM digital library, which is where
I found it.

- David

On Feb 4, 2008 2:24 PM, Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > White, H., Wright, T., and Chawner, B. 2006. Usability evaluation of
> > library online catalogues. In Proceedings of the 7th Australasian User
> > interface Conference - Volume 50 (Hobart, Australia, January 16 - 19,
> > 2006). W. Piekarski, Ed. ACM International Conference Proceeding
> > Series, vol. 169. Australian Computer Society, Darlinghurst,
> > Australia, 69-72.
> >
> > Money quote from abstract:
> >
> > "The evaluation found severe usability problems with online
> > catalogues--we found so many problems we were forced to use a card
> > sorting technique to understand and classify the problems."
>
> If you want to read the article in fulltext:
>
> http://libra.msra.cn/paperdetail.aspx?id=2361959
>
> cheers!
> Markus Fischer
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Usability evaluation of library online catalogues

[David Fiander]

Actually, the idea of using AJAX to create a way to add and remove
limits diagonally is exactly what U Virginia's blacklight interface
does, although with a slightly different interface:

http://blacklight.betech.virginia.edu/

It's also similar to the way that Engineering Village allows for
control of searches within its bibliographic databases.

- David

On Feb 4, 2008 3:42 PM, Genny Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm.  From the problems they identify, their proposed solution of adding
> Ajax controls to a moded search, in my opinion, utterly misses the
> point.  Moded searches (and moded interfaces generally) have long been
> known to create usability problems.  Rather than providing a search that
> works differently depending on the previously selected settings, it's
> better to let the user choose their options on the fly, so they don't
> have to remember to toggle off an old setting.
>
> Many of the problems identified are things that are pretty easy to fix,
> but every fix comes at a price.  On our catalog we set the "advanced"
> search not to include the heading browse, so the problem identified in
> this article with people trying to apply bibliographic-level limits to
> heading-level indexes just doesn't occur.  The downside is, most people
> don't find the heading browse ("Begins with ...") option when they do,
> in fact, want an exact title.
>
> It'll be interesting to see the findings when the researchers test
> their proposed interface.
>
>
>
> Genny Engel
> Internet Librarian
> Sonoma County Library
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 707 545-0831 x581
> www.sonomalibrary.org
>
>
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/04/08 11:05AM >>>
> A New Zealand based study published by the ACM
>
>
> White, H., Wright, T., and Chawner, B. 2006. Usability evaluation of
> library online catalogues. In Proceedings of the 7th Australasian User
> interface Conference - Volume 50 (Hobart, Australia, January 16 - 19,
> 2006). W. Piekarski, Ed. ACM International Conference Proceeding
> Series, vol. 169. Australian Computer Society, Darlinghurst,
> Australia, 69-72.
>
> Money quote from abstract:
>
> "The evaluation found severe usability problems with online
> catalogues--we found so many problems we were forced to use a card
> sorting technique to understand and classify the problems."
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Records for Open Library

[David Fiander]

Karen,

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon full of 9-track tapes.

- David

On Feb 6, 2008 9:34 PM, K.G. Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's just a synonym for "Internet tubes."
>
> Karen G. Schneider
>
>
> > Be careful to stay on the right side of the language about "magnetic
> > tape."
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On 2/6/08, Reese, Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>  Isn't sharing such records a no-no?
> > > No, OCLC's guidelines for transfer
> > (http://www.oclc.org/support/documentation/worldcat/records/guidelines/def
> > ault.htm) specifically give unrestricted transfer rights to libraries and
> > non-commercial entities.  The Open Library is both.  It's a registered
> > library in California and a non-profit.  So in either situtation, it's not
> > a  problem.
> > >
> > > --TR
> > >
> > > ***
> > > Terry Reese
> > > Cataloger for Networked Resources
> > > Digital Production Unit Head
> > > Oregon State University Libraries
> > > Corvallis, OR  97331
> > > tel: 541-737-6384
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http: http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset
> > > ***
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Peter Murray
> > > Sent: Wed 2/6/2008 2:50 PM
> > > To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu
> > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Records for Open Library
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:11 PM, K.G. Schneider wrote:
> > > > Has your library considered contributing records to Open Library (
> > > > http://www.openlibrary.org/ )? If so I'd like to hear from you on or
> > > > off
> > > > list.
> > >
> > >
> > > How would that work?  Most of the records in OhioLINK are probably
> > > derived from OCLC Worldcat.  Isn't sharing such records a no-no?
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter
> > > - --
> > > Peter Murrayhttp://www.pandc.org/peter/work/
> > > Assistant Director, New Service Development  tel:+1-614-728-3600;ext=338
> > > OhioLINK: the Ohio Library and Information NetworkColumbus, Ohio
> > > The Disruptive Library Technology Jesterhttp://dltj.org/
> > > Attrib-Noncomm-Share   http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/
> > >
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin)
> > >
> > > iD8DBQFHqjmq4+t4qSfPIHIRAqggAKDGoUmRO/7tcmdTn7f8YEnaBTbhQQCfYSBy
> > > yJU+FrMcWRUGURJk29iDx5w=
> > > =CEg4
> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Check out my library at http://www.librarything.com/profile/timspalding
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] K&R (was: Gartner on OSS)

[David Fiander]

Vi is just as programmable as emacs. It's possible to write a vi macro
that runs a turing machine.

- David

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Cloutman, David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use nano, which is the same thing as pico, more or less. I wrote my
>  first web pages using pico in a unix shell. I always thought it was a
>  great editor. I use nano almost daily, even on my Windows machines.
>
>  I just don't see the attaction to vi. I understand the need to know it,
>  but the fundamentalist furvor that some people have for the program
>  baffles me.
>
>  - David
>
>
>  ---
>  David Cloutman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Electronic Services Librarian
>  Marin County Free Library
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>  K.G. Schneider
>  Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:09 AM
>  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>  Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] K&R (was: Gartner on OSS)
>
>
>  > I now open up the vi vs. emacs discussion:
>  >
>  > http://xkcd.com/378/
>  >
>  > (personally, I'm a BBEdit user, but fall back to vi as needed ... and
>  ex
>  > for those rare times when you have to tip into a Solaris box to fix
>  the
>  > vfstab and your TERM is completely hosed)
>  >
>  > -Joe
>
>  Back when that was my choice, I used emacs exactly once, during which I
>  removed every instance of the letter "m" from a lengthy document. (When
>  I have to edit a file in my shell account, which is rare, I use pico...
>  yes, I know that makes me a sissy *and I don't care.*)
>
>  K.G. Schneider
>
>  Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] planet.code4lib.org -- 3 suggestions

[David Fiander]

I'm in favour of clearly identifying the "editor" of the planet (which
seems to be in the works), and trusting that editor to be reasonable
regarding content and "appropriate" feeds.

Beyond that, I think we're overanalyzing something that seemed to be
working pretty well.

- David


On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Code4Lib community has from the start never ever been concerned
> about who has credentials as a librarian, and as far as most of us are
> concerned never will be.   We are a community of people who write code
> and deal with technology for the library sector, we don't care about
> what degrees you have. As far as I'm concerned anyway.
>
> Jonathan
>
> John Fereira wrote:
>>
>> Alexander Johannesen wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:06 PM, K.G. Schneider
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 I feel self-conscious about seeing posts reflected in the "planet" that
 are not related to library technology, only because I'm not willing to
 break up my blog into sub-blogs and don't know if oysters and pace
 layering really go together for the "planet."

>>>
>>> Ouch, I suspect a conversation next about what fits the code4lib
>>> planet moniker. Does my technology rants that don't bash MARC fit?
>>> Does Topic Maps fit, even if libraries don't use them but they are a
>>> perfect fit? Posts about philosophical aspects of the code we make? Or
>>> the epistemological musings of workflows? Lest not forget that the
>>> human aspect of the library profession is what makes librarians so
>>> great ...
>>>
>> How about posts from someone that works in and writes code for a library
>> (for the past 11 years) but is not a librarian.
>>
>
> --
> Jonathan Rochkind
> Digital Services Software Engineer
> The Sheridan Libraries
> Johns Hopkins University
> 410.516.8886
> rochkind (at) jhu.edu
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] LOC Authority Data

[David Fiander]

One of the most important pages in the print volumes of the Library of
Congress Subject Headings (LCSH), is the title page verso, which
includes publication and copyright details. The folks at LC very
clearly understand US copyright law, since on that page you can see
that they claim that the LCSH is copyright LC _outside of the United
States of America_.

The same probably holds true for the copyright claim on the name
authority files. You folks in the United States can do what you will
with impunity, but us unwashed masses beyond your shores are likely to
get in trouble. Probably the next time we attempt to cross the border.

- David

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Jason Griffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I mentioned, they are available from Ibiblio on the link above. The
> copyright claim is...well...specious at best. But no one really wants
> to be the one to go to court and prove it. They've been publicly
> available for more than a year now on the Fred 2.0 site, and they
> haven't been sued, to my knowledge.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Nate Vack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Bryan Baldus
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> One way (as you likely know) (official, expensive) is via The Library of 
>>> Congress Cataloging Distribution Service:
>>
>> Huh. They claim copyright of these records. I'd somehow thought:
>>
>> 1: The federal government can't hold copyrights
>>
>> 2: As purely factual data, catalog records are conceptually uncopyrightable
>>
>> Anyone who knows more about this than I do know if they're *really*
>> copyrighted, or if it's more of a "we're gonna try and say they're
>> copyrighted and hope no one ignores us"?
>>
>> Curious,
>> -Nate
>>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

[David Fiander]

Giving out a travel mug at the conference, especially if the attendees
were informed of this at registration time (or at least before they
packed) would be a fantastic idea.

- David

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Edward M. Corrado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the idea. If giving out at the beginning of the conference, it could
> also make the conference more "green." Of course, in that case it would
> probably need to be a travel mug instead of a regular mug.
>
> Edward
>
>
> Richard Wallis wrote:
>>
>> We at Talis will be, as previously, sponsoring Code4lib next year - we are
>> just finalising the details with our bean counters at the moment.
>>
>> In addition to that I would like to make a suggestion as to maybe adding
>> to the memories of the event beyond the ritual wearing of the t-shirt upon
>> returning to our home establishments.
>>
>> The consumption of hot beverages I suspect is an almost universal trait of
>> the code4liber as we try to get the latest bit of perl, python, ruby, html,
>> or javascript to behave as we intended it.  Wouldn't it be nice in those
>> occasional dark and testing times to have a warm and comforting physical
>> reminder that we are part of a global community of similar folks, focused on
>> and passionate about technology & libraries.
>>
>> So...
>>
>> How about a Code4lib mug or similar beverage container.  Subject to the
>> featuring of a simple Talis logo, we would be prepared to explore the
>> possibility of funding the production of a Code4lib 2009 mug for every
>> attendee, which could feature graphics such as the winning t-shirt design a
>> Code4lib message, or logo if we have one in time.
>>
>> Just a suggestion - what do folks think?
>>
>> Richard Wallis, Talis.
>

[CODE4LIB] Converting Elsevier CSV usage reports to COUNTER XML?

[David Fiander]

Elsevier provides a variety of options for downloading ScienceDirect
journal usage stats, including HTML, PDF, and CSV, but the one format
they don't support is COUNTER-compliant XML, even for the COUNTER
reports.

So, before I burn off a couple of days on this, has anybody written a
utility that can convert Elsevier CSV to COUNTER XML?

- David

Re: [CODE4LIB] Lightning Talk ideas

[David Fiander]

Ross, that's the Hackfest topic.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Ross Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I Had This Idea That I Have No Idea How To Do, Do You?
>
> -Ross.
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Jay Luker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I know its a bit early to start thinking of these, but in the spirit of
>> William Denton's talk proposal, What We Talk About When We Talk About FRBR,
>> I thought I'd throw out a few title suggestions to get the ideas flowing.
>>
>> So Much FOAF So Close To ~/
>> Where I'm Context-Sensitive Searching From
>> The Third Thing That Killed My NextGen OPAC Project Off
>> Where Metadata Comes Together With Other Metadata
>> They're Not Your Records
>>
>> --jay
>>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDA in RDF, was: Something completely different

[David Fiander]

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
> Listen...  What you hear from over here is the sound of a very heavy sigh
> coming from a computer type who really wants to help improve the way library
> data is used in a networked environment, but they can't convince their own
> to modify the way they encode information.

See also

Fiander, David J. "Applying XML to the Bibliographic Description."
Cataloging and Classification Quarterly 33, no. 2 (2001): 17-28.

Fiander, David J., and D. Grant Campbell. "An XML Definition for an
ISBD-Based Encoding Scheme." Journal of Internet Cataloging 6, no. 4
(2003): 29-58.

Which is what happens when a computer type starts de novo with the
cataloguing standards and builds simple data structures.

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDA in RDF, was: Something completely different

[David Fiander]

Roy,

That's true. Unfortunately, I missed Kevin's talk at Access '02 in
Windsor, and since I wrote the first of those two papers I've mostly
been out of the loop, since it's not my area any more.

- David

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Roy Tennant  wrote:
> Well, and then you have the XOBIS work from Stanford that ksclarke was
> involved with.
> Roy
>
>
> On 4/7/09 4/7/09 € 10:41 AM, "David Fiander"  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
>>> Listen...  What you hear from over here is the sound of a very heavy sigh
>>> coming from a computer type who really wants to help improve the way library
>>> data is used in a networked environment, but they can't convince their own
>>> to modify the way they encode information.
>>
>> See also
>>
>> Fiander, David J. "Applying XML to the Bibliographic Description."
>> Cataloging and Classification Quarterly 33, no. 2 (2001): 17-28.
>>
>> Fiander, David J., and D. Grant Campbell. "An XML Definition for an
>> ISBD-Based Encoding Scheme." Journal of Internet Cataloging 6, no. 4
>> (2003): 29-58.
>>
>> Which is what happens when a computer type starts de novo with the
>> cataloguing standards and builds simple data structures.
>>
>
> --
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] exact title searches with z39.50 [resolved]

[David Fiander]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Eric Lease Morgan  wrote:
>
> Wow, isn't the Internet cool, and /me wonders, "Did the Bath Profile come
> from... Bath? [2]"
>

Yes.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/bath/tp-bath2.1-e.htm#c

Re: [CODE4LIB] WARC file format now ISO standard

[David Fiander]

This is a common problem with ISO standards, and the common solution
is to do just this: release the final "draft" before it's approved by
ISO as an official standard. That's what the ISO Forth programming
language group did as well.

- David

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM, st...@archive.org  wrote:
> point well taken. :)
>
> there were no significant changes to the WARC format
> between the last draft and the published standard.
>
> you can use Heritrix WARCReader, or WARC Tools warcvalidator
> to verify that you have created a valid WARC in accordance
> with the spec.
>
>
> /st...@archive.org
>
>
> On 6/2/09 2:27 PM, Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress wrote:
>>
>> But you have to pay $200 for the document that lists changes from last
>> draft to first official version.
>>
>> (Ok, Ok, it was just a joke. But you do get the point.)
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "st...@archive.org" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WARC file format now ISO standard
>>
>>
>>> hi Karen,
>>>
>>> understood.
>>>
>>> the final draft of the spec is available here:
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/4303719/WARC-ISO-28500-final-draft-v018-Zentveld-080618
>>>
>>> and other (similar) versions here:
>>> http://archive-access.sourceforge.net/warc/
>>>
>>>
>>> /st...@archive.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/2/09 2:15 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:

 Unfortunately, being an ISO standard, to obtain it costs 118 CHF (about
 $110 USD). Hard to follow a standard you can't afford to read. Is there an
 online version somewhere?

 kc

 st...@archive.org wrote:
>
> hi code4lib,
>
> if you're archiving web content, please use the WARC format.
>
> thanks,
> /st...@archive.org
>
>
>
> WARC File Format Published as an International Standard
> http://netpreserve.org/press/pr20090601.php
>
> ISO 28500:2009 specifies the WARC file format:
>
> * to store both the payload content and control information from
>  mainstream Internet application layer protocols, such as the
>  Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP), Domain Name System (DNS),
>  and File Transfer Protocol (FTP);
> * to store arbitrary metadata linked to other stored data
>  (e.g. subject classifier, discovered language, encoding);
> * to support data compression and maintain data record integrity;
> * to store all control information from the harvesting protocol
>  (e.g. request headers), not just response information;
> * to store the results of data transformations linked to other
>  stored data;
> * to store a duplicate detection event linked to other stored
>  data (to reduce storage in the presence of identical or
>  substantially similar resources);
> * to be extended without disruption to existing functionality;
> * to support handling of overly long records by truncation or
>  segmentation, where desired.
>
>
> more info here:
> http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/formats/fdd/fdd000236.shtml
>
>

>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view standards and usage

[David Fiander]

Walter,

Well the obvious commercial example, sort of is that old favourite:
Beta (for which Sony charged a license fee and controlled who could
produce media) vs VHS (for which there was either no fee or a much
lower one, and not oversight of media producers).

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Andrew
Hankinson wrote:
> Have a look at the ongoing battles between MPEG4 and Ogg for the browser
> video space. I don't know of your second criteria for b), however - not many
> people are using Ogg (yet)
>
> http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/07/06/ogg-theora-h-264-and-the-html-5-browser-squabble/
>
> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/decoding-the-html-5-video-codec-debate.ars
>
> -Andrew
>
> On 13-Jul-09, at 12:22 PM, Walter Lewis wrote:
>
>> Are there any blindingly obvious examples of instances where
>>   a) a standards group produced a standard published by a body which
>> charged for access to it
>> and
>>  b) a alternative standards groups produced a competing standard that was
>> openly accessible
>> and the work of group a) was rendered totally irrelevant because most
>> non-commercial work ignored it in favour of b).
>>
>> My instinct is to quote the battle between OSI (ISO) and TCP/IP (IETF
>> RFCs).  Does that strike others as appropriate?
>>
>> Any examples closer to the library world?
>>
>> Walter Lewis
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Suggest a keynote speaker for Code4Lib 2010!

[David Fiander]

If you were to invite Stallman as your keynote, that would certainly
make me feel better about the fact that I have to miss Code4Lib again
this year.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Andrew Nagy wrote:
> I'd also be happy to nominate my old boss Joe Lucia at Villanova.  He is a
> Library Director who fully supports Open Source software and speaks on it
> from time to time.  He was the keynote speaker at the recent Evergreen
> conference.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Andreas Orphanides <
> andreas_orphani...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> The time has come once again to commence discussion of possible keynote
>> speakers for the upcoming Code4Lib 2010 conference in Asheville!
>>
>> If you've got any suggestions for a speaker who'd be engaging,
>> knowledgeable, and foolhardy enough to accept this high honor, throw their
>> names to the list for discussion.
>>
>> We here at Code4Lib 2010 World Headquarters, deep under the sea, will
>> accept nominations until *September 16, 2009*. Shortly thereafter we will
>> open the polls for online voting.
>>
>> All suggestions and comments are welcome! Discuss away!
>>
>> Andreas Orphanides
>> Code4Lib 2010 Keynote Speakers Committee
>>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Suggest a keynote speaker for Code4Lib 2010!

[David Fiander]

Roy, completely aside from the "nothing new" aspect (apparently he's
been giving EXACTLY the same speech for going on two decades now),
there's the whole "driving women out of the community" aspect, that we
certainly have enough problem with already.

http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/emailing-richard-stallman.html

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:
> I hadn't wanted to rain on the parade, but David's comment inspires me to do
> so. Does anyone really think we will hear anything new from Richard
> Stallman? I mean, seriously?
> Roy
>
>
> On 7/23/09 7/23/09 € 9:20 AM, "David Fiander"  wrote:
>
>> If you were to invite Stallman as your keynote, that would certainly
>> make me feel better about the fact that I have to miss Code4Lib again
>> this year.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Andrew Nagy wrote:
>>> I'd also be happy to nominate my old boss Joe Lucia at Villanova.  He is a
>>> Library Director who fully supports Open Source software and speaks on it
>>> from time to time.  He was the keynote speaker at the recent Evergreen
>>> conference.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Andreas Orphanides <
>>> andreas_orphani...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> The time has come once again to commence discussion of possible keynote
>>>> speakers for the upcoming Code4Lib 2010 conference in Asheville!
>>>>
>>>> If you've got any suggestions for a speaker who'd be engaging,
>>>> knowledgeable, and foolhardy enough to accept this high honor, throw their
>>>> names to the list for discussion.
>>>>
>>>> We here at Code4Lib 2010 World Headquarters, deep under the sea, will
>>>> accept nominations until *September 16, 2009*. Shortly thereafter we will
>>>> open the polls for online voting.
>>>>
>>>> All suggestions and comments are welcome! Discuss away!
>>>>
>>>> Andreas Orphanides
>>>> Code4Lib 2010 Keynote Speakers Committee
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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>

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

[David Fiander]

And how does that absolve such sites from being "named and shamed" or
permanently filtered? If Millenium is acting like a robot in its
monthly maintenance processes, then it should be checking robots.txt.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Chris King wrote:
> stuart yeates wrote:
>>>
>>> GPO knows that many institutions have automated URL checkers
>>
>>  > that run against the PURL server. Please be aware that the
>>>
>>> PURL restoration process is severely slowed by checkers repeatedly
>>> hitting the PURL server.
>>
>> Presumably if there are any parties running automated tools which neglect
>> to check robots.txt those institutions are going to be named and shamed
>> and/or permanently filtered?
>
> Any "out-of-the-box" installation of Innovative's Millennium that includes
> "URL Verify" is set automatically to check all 856 links on the first of the
> month.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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>