Re: [CODE4LIB] reearch project about feeling stupid in professional communication
*raises hand* my library doesn’t have an API *wah* ;) Until recently-ish (last year or so), I didn't even know what an API was, despite having been subscribed to this group (and mostly in lurker mode) for quite some time now. Thankfully I did a short course through Library Juice Academy that explained it to me (it was a 'hallelujah!' moment). Doesn't mean I've been able to make any use of the APIs available to me through our various vendors, so far. And I sure as heck won't be building my own APIs anytime soon. I did librarian studies, not IT studies - but I know a lot of IT people in libraries have basically taught themselves all that they know, without any formal training. I'm sure I could do that too, as I have taught myself other IT-ish skills in the past, e.g. html, some php, etc. But sometimes it is difficult to even know where to start, when you don't understand what you need to know. As a mostly lurker type on this list, I can say that I don't understand a lot of what is discussed - but over time I make occasional connections and pick things up that I find interesting. So it's worth being on the list for me, even if I can't do much with what I'm reading about most of the time. Patricia Farnan | Application Administrator, Discovery Services University Library | St Teresa’s Library Telephone: +61 8 9433 0707 | Email: patricia.far...@nd.edu.au -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Julie Swierczek Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 3:33 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] reearch project about feeling stupid in professional communication Just to clarify: I wasn't talking about this list only. I am particularly interested in lists related to libraries/archives/museums and technology, but I am also interested in hearing other examples, and about how we have interpreted those examples. (Tell me a story about it!) I think that one of the things I'll present or write about are cases where it is not necessarily obvious that a person is belittled by a response. That is, in reply to a question, a responder says one thing, but what the original questioner heard was "you are too stupid to play with us". Some obvious flame wars involve accusations of stupidity, but I am especially interested in the much more subtle cases where readers might feel stupid even if that is not the author's intent. One example that comes to mind is when a group announces that they are releasing a new open source project for institutions of "all sizes" to make it easier for libraries to do this fabulous thing. So Person X, who is not completely inept with computers, goes to the project site and the instructions are something like this: 1. We are not going to tell you which server architecture this works on because you clearly should be smart enough to figure that out. 2. Download this package. 3. Compile the package. 4. Obviously there are 300 dependencies, but we are not going to tell you what they are. Any decent institution would have them installed already. 5. Change system configurations to serve local needs. We're not going to tell you what that means or how to do it. 6. Use the API from your ILS to feed in this data. If your current API doesn't work, please write one according to the specs on some other project you've never heard of. Note that the documentation of that other project hasn't been updated in eleven years, but you'll figure it out. What? Your library catalog doesn't have an API?!?!?! You must be joking. *Everyone* has an API. 7. Earn a PhD in computer science. 8. Change your entire server environment including reinstalling your ILS on some other platform, breaking everything and requiring tens of thousands of dollars in development work to put all the pieces back together again. 9. Type the following commands in the command line. Note that they look like a SHA-256 hash, but they are actually really simple commands that everyone should know. 10. Voila! it works. addendum: We did not include any help instructions. You can just read the code if you need to figure something out. The group offering the program probably does not intend for their directions to come across this way, but that is what sometimes happens, and Person X now feels like an idiot and doesn't want to participate anymore. So, I am looking for something more subtle here than the obvious mudslinging you can find in most tech forums. As to the question of whether that happens here or not, I would generally say no, except that I - and most likely all readers here - have not read every single message of the list archives, word for word, so something could have passed our notice. There have most likely been multiple instances where someone asked a question in a way that would indicate that the person is new at this, and the answer was much more technically sophisticated than the leve
Re: [CODE4LIB] List of Database Subjects
At UNDA we have a link on our homepage (quick links) to our Subject Guides. These are based on the Schools we have: http://libraryonline.nd.edu.au/ Some schools have more than one subject guide attached, as you can see by the numbers, e.g. Arts & Sciences has 9 subject guides under it. On our library homepage we have another quick link that goes to our eResources list, which has a list of all our subject guides in the left hand pane: http://library.nd.edu.au/home/eresources Patricia Farnan | Application Administrator, Discovery Services University Library | St Teresa’s Library Telephone: +61 8 9433 0707 | Email: patricia.far...@nd.edu.au -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Shirley Lincicum Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 4:55 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] List of Database Subjects The reality is that to do a really good job of driving users to the available resources, you need to categorize databases by both subjects AND departments/courses. These are overlapping but distinct facets that reflect different ways that users can approach locating resources relevant to their needs. Shirley On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Stuart A. Yeates <syea...@gmail.com> wrote: > I strongly suggest that participants of this discussion pick up a > decent history of library classification systems, since many of the > large-scale classification systems started with discussions very much like > this > > History repeating and all that. > > cheers > stuart > > -- > ...let us be heard from red core to black sky > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:59 AM, David J. Fiander <da...@fiander.info> > wrote: > > > The problem with "programs/departments" is that there are things > > that aren't under the umbrella of a single program/department. Where > > does "planetary science" go, for example, when it's a strange mix of > > Earth Sciences, Geography, and Astronomy? > > > > The other problem is that there are some very LARGE departments > > (civil engineering is 1/4 of a faculty, for example), which would > > benefit from multiple database subjects. > > > > On 2016/03/17 13:09, Salazar, Christina wrote: > > > I'm curious because I wanted to do a better job with our db > > categorization, other than program/majors/departments, HOW did > > you(s) > come > > up with your categories? Any usability/card sorting/etc > > > > > > > > > Christina Salazar > > > Systems Librarian > > > John Spoor Broome Library > > > California State University, Channel Islands > > > 805/437-3198 > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On > > > Behalf > Of > > Jeremy C. Shellhase > > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:07 AM > > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] List of Database Subjects > > > > > > Hi, > > > Subjects we're using are > > http://library.humboldt.edu/search/articles.html > > > Based pretty much on our programs/depts. > > > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is > > > time to > > pause and reflect." *-- **Mark Twain* > > > > > > Jeremy C. Shellhase > > > Systems Librarian > > > Library room 206 > > > Humboldt State University Library > > > One Harpst Street > > > Arcata, California 95521 > > > 707-826-3144 (voice) > > > 707-826-3441 (fax) > > > jeremy.shellh...@humboldt.edu > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Ian Chan <ic...@csusm.edu> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> The subjects we use are listed on > > >> https://biblio.csusm.edu/research_portal/databases. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> > > >> Ian Chan > > >> Systems Coordinator > > >> University Library > > >> California State University San Marcos ic...@csusm.edu | > > >> 760-750-4385 > > >> | biblio.csusm.edu | Skype: ian.t.chan > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On > > >> Behalf Of Mitchell B. Roe > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:38 AM > > >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] List of Database Subjects > > >> > > >> On
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Juice - thoughts?
The managers in my library wanted to try out the courses to see what they were like, so I was able to be one of the 'experiments' when I did the PHP & APIs course. Some others did a management course which they didn't find nearly as good as I found mine. So I guess I was the lucky one to get a good instructor! -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of davesgonechina Sent: Wednesday, 28 October 2015 12:55 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Juice - thoughts? I've not taken any classes on LibraryJuice mainly because I find their course descriptions too thin. The Data Management course has a better description than most, but perhaps I've been spoiled by Coursera where I can see a syllabus, schedule, and materials before deciding to pay any fees. I'm wondering, those of you who have taken a LibraryJuice course, what attracted you to it and how did the experience match or differ from your expectations? Dave On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Folds, Dusty <dfo...@montevallo.edu> wrote: > Yes, I concur with these comments. Just be aware of the time > commitment that will be involved. That's where I ran into problems, too. > > Dusty > > -- > Dusty Folds, MLIS > Information Literacy and Digital Learning Librarian Assistant > Professor University of Montevallo Carmichael Library Station 6108 > Montevallo, AL 35115 > P: 205-665-6108 > F: 205-665-6112 > E: dfo...@montevallo.edu > > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > Of REESE-HORNSBY, TWYLA > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 1:47 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Juice - thoughts? > > I started a course (Introduction to XML) through Library Juice a year > ago. I wasn't able to finish it due to some personal challenges but I > still have access to the archived class which is great. Like > Patricia, I found the content very useful but underestimated how much > time I needed to read and study the material. Four weeks goes fast! > The instructor also scheduled times to meet online for questions. > > I did have trouble getting used to the Moodle platform but I think it > has since been upgraded to be more user friendly. > > I am seriously considering taking another course in the near future. > > Best, > > Twyla Reese-Hornsby > Public Service Librarian | J. Ardis Bell Library Tarrant County > College Northeast Campus | Office: NLIB 2127A > 828 W. Harwood Rd. |Hurst, TX 76054 > 817-515-6365 | Fax: 817-515-6275 > twyla.reese-horn...@tccd.edu | www.tccd.edu > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > Of Patricia Farnan > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 9:40 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Juice - thoughts? > > I recently did a course through Library Juice on PHP & APIs, and I > found it really useful and easy to follow (well, easy for my poor > brain to follow. I still had to re-read my notes and re-listen to > certain parts of each video, to really let things sink in). The > instructor was very good at staying in touch with students and interacting. > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > Of BWS Johnson > Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2015 4:14 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Juice - thoughts? > > Salvete! > > I'm going to be exceedingly naughty in replying to this. I used > to teach a course on Koha for Rory, so obviously I'm heavily biased. > > I taught twice, and as a fringe perq, he let instructors take > certain courses gratis. > > I would say overall that you're in for a treat. When it first > started it was a small experimental thing. A lot of the students' > experiences varied widely by how much they participated and which > instructor they selected. Rory has gone out of his way over the years > to solidify the lineup so that you get a good instructor. Compared to > my University, they are WAY cheaper. They weren't as comprehensive as > my University, but hey, that would be a really high bar. Also, they're > designed with someone that's working full time in mind. > > > As far as I know, they're still using Moodle, so if you're > familiar with that platform, you'll be right at home. > > The time commitment will vary by course, as well. I bet that Rory > would give you your instructor's email in advance to feel things out > and see how heavy the workload might be. > > So yeah, go for it! > > Hope this h
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Juice - thoughts?
I recently did a course through Library Juice on PHP & APIs, and I found it really useful and easy to follow (well, easy for my poor brain to follow. I still had to re-read my notes and re-listen to certain parts of each video, to really let things sink in). The instructor was very good at staying in touch with students and interacting. -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of BWS Johnson Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2015 4:14 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Juice - thoughts? Salvete! I'm going to be exceedingly naughty in replying to this. I used to teach a course on Koha for Rory, so obviously I'm heavily biased. I taught twice, and as a fringe perq, he let instructors take certain courses gratis. I would say overall that you're in for a treat. When it first started it was a small experimental thing. A lot of the students' experiences varied widely by how much they participated and which instructor they selected. Rory has gone out of his way over the years to solidify the lineup so that you get a good instructor. Compared to my University, they are WAY cheaper. They weren't as comprehensive as my University, but hey, that would be a really high bar. Also, they're designed with someone that's working full time in mind. As far as I know, they're still using Moodle, so if you're familiar with that platform, you'll be right at home. The time commitment will vary by course, as well. I bet that Rory would give you your instructor's email in advance to feel things out and see how heavy the workload might be. So yeah, go for it! Hope this helped, Brooke IMPORTANT: This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you should not disclose, copy, disseminate or otherwise use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail and delete or destroy the document. Confidential and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. The University of Notre Dame Australia is not responsible for any changes made to a document other than those made by the University. Before opening or using attachments please check them for viruses and defects. Our liability is limited to re-supplying any affected attachments.
