[CODE4LIB] Where can I find a basic set of user stories for a digital library?
Does anyone have a set of user stories for a digital library that you'd be willing to share? Or, is there a good place to look this up and pull a set? I'm working with these types of materials: old photos, digitized books, digitized newspapers, ETDs. Pretty much the basics of digital library content. I'm interested in a listing of ways people would use these, so I can better understand what the platforms I'm working with do well and where gaps are. -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] Google can give you answers, but librarians give you the right answers
That statement is pretty old. Today, much of the internet is written for machines or by machines. Poorly written rehashed fluffy content dominates. As time goes on, even though search algorithms are getting better and the general public is getting more savvy about how to use a search engine, the problem is that lots of the content is written mechanically. Information literacy hardly helps for some searches, because there are searches where every hit was written only for SEO value with no agenda beyond SEO value. I think the way forward is a focus on how to push out quality content to machines, rather than focus on how to sift through fluff or focus on how to purchase quality from monopoly vendors. Librarians also tend to fall into the rut of doing what they have skills and training to do, and years of experience in information literacy training are easily rolled into more information literacy training. -Wilhelmina On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:31 AM, Cornel Darden Jr. wrote: > Hello, > > "Google can give you answers, but librarians give you the right answers." > > Is it me? Or is there something wrong with this statement? > > I've been hearing statements like this since I've been in the field. > Tonight I saw a public library post on FB: > > Library: "because not everything on the internet is true" > > Some people applauded the statement and were like: "yay librarians!" > > Others thought it was a very ignorant statement. And many patrons caused a > huge backlash. It was interesting as the library responded to the irritated > patrons. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Cornel Darden Jr. > Chief Information Officer > Casanova Information Services, LLC > Office Phone: (779) 205-3105 > Mobile Phone: (708) 705-2945 > > Sent from my iPhone >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Sorry for my last message
ASCII unicorn is a publishable article in Code4Lib Journal? -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > I would totally put that on the cod4lib.com website. > > You could also just fax it to Roy. > > > On Sep 4, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Andreas Orphanides > wrote: > > > > If you are otherwise in good health and spirits, but you need more money > > for ramen and textbooks, please send a watercolor painting of a box > turtle > > by US Postal Service to Cary Gordon. > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Suchy, Daniel wrote: > > > >> And if all is well, we expect a hand typed ascii unicorn. > >> -Dan > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Sep 4, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason Bengtson > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I believe that, by international convention, that's actually the only > >>> acceptable use of a unicorn emoji. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> *Jason Bengtson, MLIS, MA* > >>> Innovation Architect > >>> > >>> > >>> *Houston Academy of MedicineThe Texas Medical Center Library* > >>> 1133 John Freeman Blvd > >>> Houston, TX 77030 > >>> http://library.tmc.edu/ > >>> www.jasonbengtson.com > >>> > >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Thomas Guignard < > >> thomas.guign...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Ivan, if you are being held and forced to type emails against your > will, > >>>> send us a unicorn emoji. > >>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 5:10 AM, "Iván V.G." > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> It was a mistake. > >>>> > >> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] "coders for libraries"
In general, it's not great to refer to people as nouns. It's better to say people with an adjective, so the person isn't replaced or given just one identity. I support not calling people coders or other noun. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Eric Hellman wrote: > Between September and November of 2008, the title attribute of the > Code4lib homepage was changed from "code4lib | Code for Libraries" to > "code4lib | coders for libraries, libraries for coders". > > Dave Winer, who could be considered the inventor of the blog, recently > tweeted about us: > > "code4lib: coders for libraries, libraries for coders. (I really hate the > word "coders.") code4lib.org <http://code4lib.org/>" > > As someone who feels that Code4Lib should welcome people who don't > particularly identify as "coders", I would welcome a return to the previous > title attribute. > > Eric Hellman > President, Free Ebook Foundation > Founder, Unglue.it https://unglue.it/ > http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/ > twitter: @gluejar >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Metadata
If it's a homework assignment, http://www.niso.org/publications/press/UnderstandingMetadata.pdf to start and Wikipedia to retrieve more detail on standards can give you a good start. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > I'm guessing it's a homework assignment of some kind to ask us that. > > > On 10/29/14 5:49 PM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: > >> On Oct 29, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Matthew Sherman >>> wrote: >>> >>> That is a very vague question, would you care to elaborate a bit more? >>> >> >> This. >> >> If we just mention standards we use, you'll get drowned in alphabet soup >> of acronyms. If you could say a few words about what you have and what you >> want to do, we could be more helpful. >> >> Kyle >> >> >>
[CODE4LIB] Deepfreeze Cloud and computer speeds
Would installing Deepfreeze Cloud clients onto a computer have any effect on speed? For example, might Deepfreeze Cloud be checking in with the server waiting for a response and adding a little time onto things like starting up and starting applications? -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] job postings
But, don't librarians love cats, so both of these are illustrations of super happy moments? -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Joseph Montibello < joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu> wrote: > Seeing a big pile of postings in my code4lib email folder: > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0c2mpN1KIhI/TwYSqTCIPYI/C1Y/xnpv2cFoO5Q/s1600/IMG_3262.jpg > > Seeing it’s a long procedural conversation about code4lib doings: > http://i.imgur.com/2QHDoDH.gif > > (No offense meant to any, just Friday silliness) > > Joe Montibello, MLIS > Library Systems Manager > Dartmouth College > 603.646.9394 > joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu >
Re: [CODE4LIB] jobs digest for 2014-05-16
I prefer full ads also. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Dunn, Katie wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Joe Hourcle wrote: > > It looks to me like it's a change in the messages that ' > jobs.code4lib.org' > > generates and sends to the list ... > > I much preferred receiving the full ads in separate messages, because they > were easy to archive and search in my email without having to copy/paste > from the website, but I can just subscribe to the Atom feed instead. > > Katie >
Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs
"How do you manage to filter out those who feel their job is worthy of cross posting without using jobs@code4lib ?" To me this is a strong argument for keeping the Code4Lib job posting as-is. For the postings that come through http://jobs.code4lib.org/ , people can filter with 100% accuracy. If every listserv has an organized and consistent way of marking up and sending job postings, then filters would work on those other lists too. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Carrick Rogers wrote: > How do you manage to filter out those who feel their job is worthy of cross > posting without using jobs@code4lib I've yet to get around to making a > smarter filter to deal with those. > > > > Carrick Rogers > Revs Infrastructure Developer > 210 Meyer Library, Stanford, CA > carri...@stanford.edu > > - Original Message - > From: "Cynthia Ng" > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:33:09 AM > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs > > what jobs emails? I haven't seen one of those since I started on this list > =P > > I agree that a simple filter works perfectly well, and the lower number of > mailing list people have to subscribe to, the better > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Kate Kosturski > wrote: > >> I agree as well - I've always been taught to always keep your eye on the >> job market, even if you are gainfully and happily employed. You also never >> know when a friend or colleague may be a good fit for a job you see on C4L. >> >> >> So, I enjoy the job posts and if you don't want to read them, the >> suggestion of email filters, or even simple deletion, may work for you. >> >> Best, >> >> Kate >> >> >> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Jacobs, Jane W < >> jane.w.jac...@queenslibrary.org> wrote: >> >> > I also vote "NO". I want so see first hand what the "marketable skills" >> > are that I should be acquiring. I can always delete the ones that are >> way >> > above my head, but at least I've some idea what terms to look up! >> > JJ >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of >> > Dan Chudnov >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 12:35 PM >> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> > Subject: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs >> > >> > Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list for "Job:" >> > postings? "code4lib-jobs", perhaps? >> > >> > -Dan >> > >> > >> > *Shop to Support Queens Library! Buy books, e-books, videos, >> > music, gifts at great prices. A portion of the proceeds benefit >> > Queens Library. >> > >> > http://www.queenslibrary.org/shop >> > >> > >> > >> > The information contained in this message may be privileged and >> > confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this >> > message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent >> > responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, >> > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >> > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >> > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately >> > by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Kate Kosturski, MSLIS, Pratt Institute >> k...@katekosturski.info >> librariankate7...@gmail.com >> 609-235-7658 (mobile) >> http://www.katekosturski.info >> <http://www.katekosturski.com/> >> Twitter: librarian_kate <http://twitter.com/librarian_kate> >>
Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs
This comes up all the time, and always it's no. For anyone who doesn't like the job postings, use email filters. -Wilhelmina On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Dan Chudnov wrote: > Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list for "Job:" > postings? "code4lib-jobs", perhaps? > > -Dan
Re: [CODE4LIB] SubjectsPlus themes
Ha, yes, after looking at it, I think SubjectsPlus is not set up for theming. Small user community? It looks only at /assets/css/ , where all css files are, and at /subjects/includes/ , where header.php footer.php etc are. It's not set up for theming, or I've overlooked something. It does not first check for a theme, then go to core when the file is not in a theme folder. I did my quicky branding job, but still interested if anyone has themes to share (or has modified to allow themes at all). -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Andrew Darby wrote: > I'm not aware of any themes, but you could post to the list. People > generally modify the header, footer and css for localization of the > front-end. Some sites have customized a lot, but the customizations tend to > hew to the parent site's look and feel. Others haven't customized at all, > which has led us to rethink the very vanilla default theme. > > We're just (re)starting a version 3 sprint, but haven't gotten to the front > end yet. We're hoping to pretty it up a bit, but I'm not sure we'll have a > templating system more than css files to monkey with. If you have > suggestions or ideas, please send them to the list, or me, or add as issues > in GitHub. > > Andrew > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Tom Keays wrote: > >> I searched briefly in the SubjectsPlus group archive but found no mention >> of themes. >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/subjectsplus >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Wilhelmina Randtke > >wrote: >> >> > Does anyone have a theme for SubjectsPlus up on github? >> > >> > I'm playing around with the CMS, and I can't find themes. Surely they >> > must exist. >> > >> > -Wilhelmina Randtke >> > >> > > > > -- > Andrew Darby > Head, Web & Emerging Technologies > University of Miami Libraries
[CODE4LIB] SubjectsPlus themes
Does anyone have a theme for SubjectsPlus up on github? I'm playing around with the CMS, and I can't find themes. Surely they must exist. -Wilhelmina Randtke
[CODE4LIB] Transcription services
Has anyone used a transcription service to do captioning for a video, or anything similar? There are many transcription services that charge a per minute fee. I'd like to get a recommendation on one that worked well for someone. -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] Friends of code4lib (was Re: [CODE4LIB] Call for Old Conf Tshirt Logos)
Agreeing with everything Edward Corrado said. Incorporating and getting 501(c)(3) status should support some other goal, and if that goal is to sell T-shirts, then you're doing it wrong and loosing money on filing fees. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > I think discussing which type of non-profit to be (501(c)3 vs. 501(c)6 vs. > ___ is putting the cart before the horse. There are advantages and > disadvantages to both and depending what the goals are one may be better > than the other or they both may be unnecessary. There also needs to be > discussion on where to incorporate (that is done, in the USA, at a state > level). As someone who is currently on the board of a 501(c)6 and and past > president and co-founder of a 501(c)3, I can tell you that there are lots > of forms, accounting, legal, and other requirements. If the reason for > doing it is to make a little profit off of t-shirts and coffee mugs, it > isn't worth it. You'll lose more in bank fees. If it is to be a fiscal > agent for the whole Code4Lib Conference (and thus take in and expend all of > the money involved with the conference it may be, but it will also > complicate things, like will you need insurance?) there needs to be boards, > treasurers, elections, etc. > > I am not saying I'm against it. I advocated for it years ago when it was > less popular [1]. However, I think the purposes and goals need to be > decided first before worry about what tax status the organization would fit > into and if incorporated is even worth it. I'd also highly recommend > looking into partnering with some other organization such as DLF or Lyrasis > to do this [2]. Changing the state the treasurer, president/chair, and > other officers are located in is a big headache (how big depends on the > constitution, bylaws, banks, and the state incorporated in). > > Edward > > [1] http://code4lib.org/conference/2008/corrado > [2] I only mention these because they came up, but it should be noted even > DLF isn't going it alone. They are a program of CLIR. I'm sure there are > also many others that could be good choices. > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Andreas Orphanides wrote: > >> Historically, there's resistance to forming anything like an organization >> around Code4Lib proper. A great point of pride in the community is our >> generally anarcho-communist approach to self-organization and >> self-determination -- Code4Lib is manifestly not an organization, and yet >> [X], for many values of X that are challenging for even "proper" >> organizations to pull off. There's definitely concern that forming an >> organization and bylaws and the like would make it harder for Code4Lib to >> do its thing as Code4Lib, up to and including potentially fundamentally >> disrupting what Code4Lib is at its core. >> >> On the other hand, there would be a definite value -- and there is a >> demonstrated need -- for some kind of ongoing structure to support the >> community's regular activities, help manage budget handoffs between >> conferences, and the like. I think the notion of a "Friends of Code4Lib" >> has the potential of solving the financial trust/financial continuity issue >> without putting the community itself at risk of being burdened by too much >> structure. >> >> That being said, I think even the idea of Friends of Code4lib, organization >> once removed, is probably worthy of serious discussion among the community >> so we can understand how it's going to fit in with the bigger Code4Lib >> organism. >> >> -dre. >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Riley Childs > >wrote: >> >> > I think someone should put together bylaws and then we should vote on >> > them, if they are passed we should then vote on a board (I really don't >> > know w/w/w on this) after that we should incorporate as code4lib LLC and >> > apply for status as a 501(c)6 (members don't have to pay) or a more >> > welcoming option would be a 501(c)3 which would give us access to tax >> > deductible donations (yay!). just my $2 (which I will gladly give if this >> > becomes an entity ;) >> > >> > Riley Childs >> > Student >> > Asst. Head of IT Services >> > Charlotte United Christian Academy >> > (704) 497-2086 >> > RileyChilds.net >> > Sent from my Windows Phone, please excuse mistakes >> > >> > From: Simon Spero<mailto:sesunc...@gmail.com> >> > Sent: 4/13/2014 3:33 PM >> > To: CODE4LI
Re: [CODE4LIB] Call for Old Conf Tshirt Logos
501(c)(3) is just if you want nonprofit status for tax exempt status. Really, with so many of us in maker spaces, I'm sure plenty of people here have been through the 501(c)(3) paperwork recently. The other reason you want a corporation is that then the corporation gets liability, and not an individual member of the organization. Both options involve doing something and then having to keep doing things, and that's a hassle. The least hassle way to do this is to, like Roy said, get an existing organization to handle the money. An organization that is already handling money is already set up to handle money. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> Go for it Lisa! >> >> ./fxk > > > I can start digging into the hows/whys sometime in early May and > report back. If anyone has anything of interest (past C4L list convos, > recommendations, etc), pass them along! > > > -- > > Lisa M. Rabey | @pnkrcklibrarian > > http://exitpursuedbyabear.net | http://lisa.rabey.net
Re: [CODE4LIB] Welcome to Roy4Lib
My neighbor made this bacon vodka, and it was amazing http://www.instructables.com/id/Bacon-Infused-Vodka/ -Wilhelmina Randtke On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: > Bacon being cooked in a liquor store? Wow, California is awesome. > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Roy Tennant wrote: > >> That would make sense, but I think in this particular instance I was >> watching bacon being cooked. >> Roy >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Michael J. Giarlo < >> leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu> wrote: >> >> > Clearly taken in the liquor store. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Cindi Trainor Blyberg >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Well, I do like the photo that Roy uses everywhere, but I have to say I >> > > like this one better: >> > > >> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/23341397@N00/3769032245 >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Roy wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hmm. Call it roys4lib.org and put pictures of all the list's Roys on >> > > > there... >> > > > Mr. Tennant's picture would have to be first, of course, and be the >> > > > biggest. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 2/21/2014 6:51 PM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> so tempted to buy roy4lib.org and put up a glass of scotch there. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Edward M Corrado < >> > ecorr...@ecorrado.us >> > > >> >wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> Roy4lib has consumed to much Scotch - after all, it is Friday. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> -- >> > > >>> Edward M. Corrado >> > > >>> >> > > >>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 18:13, Roy Tennant >> wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> roy4lib.org is ALWAYS down. I mean, it just makes too much sense >> > for >> > > it >> > > >>>> >> > > >>> to >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> be in any other state. >> > > >>>> Roy >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Rosalyn Metz < >> > rosalynm...@gmail.com> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>> wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> it appears that roy4lib.org is also down >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Frumkin, Jeremy < >> > > >>>>> frumk...@u.library.arizona.edu> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Welcome to the Roy4Lib discussion list. This list is intended to >> > > >>>>>> facilitate discussion on Roy Tennant's new world library order, >> > the >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> role >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> of bacon (including kosher and vegetarian based varieties) in this >> > > >>>>>> context, and the long, long, long, long, long drawn out death of >> > > MARC. >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> If you believe you have subscribed to this list in error, please >> > > email >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> the >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>>> admin at r...@roy4lib.org. >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> Jeremy Frumkin >> > > >>>>>> Assistant Dean / Chief Technology Strategist >> > > >>>>>> University of Arizona Libraries >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> +1 520.626.7296 >> > > >>>>>> frumk...@u.library.arizona.edu >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... >> > It >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> takes >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite >> > > >>>>>> direction." - Albert Einstein >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > >>
Re: [CODE4LIB] EZProxy changes / alternatives ?
$500 this year. Five years out, it won't be less than $495 each year, but potentially much more. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: > When it comes to hedging bets, I'd sure rather hedge my $50,000 bet than my > $500 one. Just sayin'. > Roy > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:04 PM, BWS Johnson >wrote: > > > Salvete! > > > > Tisn't necessarily Socialist to hedge one's bets. Look at what Wall > > St. experts advise when one is unsure of whether to hold or sell. > Monopoly > > is only ever in the interest of those that hold it. > > > >Short term the aquarium is enticing, but do you enjoy your > > collapsed dorsal fin? > > > > Cheers, > > Brooke > > > > -- > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 6:10 PM EST Salazar, Christina wrote: > > > > >I think though that razor thin budgets aside, the EZProxy using > community > > is vulnerable to what amounts to a monopoly. Don't get any ideas, OCLC > > peeps (just kiddin') but now we're so captive to EZProxy, what are our > > options if OCLC wants to gradually (or not so gradually) jack up the > price? > > > > > >Does being this captive to a single product justify community developer > > time? > > > > > >I think so but I'm probably just a damn socialist. > > > > > >On Jan 31, 2014, at 1:36 PM, "Tim McGeary" > wrote: > > > > > >> Even with razor thin budgets, this is a no brainer. May they need > > decide > > >> between buying 10 new books or license EZProxy? Possibly, but if they > > have > > >> a need for EZProxy, that's still a no brainer - until a solid OSS > > >> replacement that includes as robust a developer /support community > comes > > >> around. But again, at $500/year, I don't see a lot of incentive to > > invest > > >> in such a project. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Riley Childs < > rchi...@cucawarriors.com > > >wrote: > > >> > > >> But there are places on a razor thin budget, and things like this > throw > > >> them off ball acne > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 3:32 PM, "Tim McGeary" > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> So what's the price point that EZProxy needs to climb to make it more > > >>> realistic to put resources into an alternative. At $500/year, I > don't > > >> even > > >>> have to think about justifying it. At 1% (or less) of the cost of > > >> position > > >>> with little to no prior experience needed, it doesn't make a lot of > > sense > > >>> to invest in an open source alternative, even on a campus that > heavily > > >> uses > > >>> Shibboleth. > > >>> > > >>> Tim > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ross Singer > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Not only that, but it's also expressly designed for the purpose of > > >> reverse > > >>> proxying subscription databases in a library environment. There are > > >> tons > > >>> of things vendors do that would be incredibly frustrating to get > > working > > >>> properly in Squid, nginx, or Apache that have already been solved by > > >>> EZProxy. Which is self-fulfilling: vendors then cater to what > EZProxy > > >> does > > >>> (rather than improving access to their resources). > > >>> > > >>> Art Rhyno used to say that the major thing that was inhibiting the > > >>> widespread adoption of Shibboleth was how simple and cheap EZProxy > was. > > >> I > > >>> think there is a lot of truth to that. > > >>> > > >>> -Ross. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Kyle Banerjee < > > kyle.baner...@gmail.com > > >>>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> EZproxy is a self-installing statically compiled single binary > > >>> download, > > >>>> with a built-in administrative interface that makes most common > > >>>> administrative tasks point-and-click, that works on Lin
Re: [CODE4LIB] archiving web pages
Agreed, don't focus too much on preserving the presentation for an online newspaper. The text and images are important, but the layout isn't so important. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: > IMO, there are many web archiving situations where it is more appropriate > to just focus on the content rather than the manifestation of the content. > Just as you wouldn't expect a 1995 article from the NYT to be displayed as > the website was in 1995 or an article in an online database to actually > appear like it originally appeared online, it's the content rather than the > skin that's relevant in the case of a newspaper. If you make sure it's in a > format that can be migrated forward and added to standalone or union > systems that provide access to this sort of stuff, you'll be fine. > > kyle > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Kathryn Frederick (Library) < > kfred...@skidmore.edu> wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm trying to develop a strategy for preserving issues our school's > online > > newspaper. Creating a WARC file of the content seems straightforward, but > > how will that content fair long-term? Also, how is the WARC served to an > > end-user? Is there some other method I should look at? > > Thanks in advance for any advice! > > Kathryn > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Automated Embedded Metadata Extraction in Photographs: Possible or Pipedream?
Piwigo does this, so you can look at the source code to see how. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Dec 17, 2013 3:37 PM, "Swauger,Shea" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm wondering if there is a systematic method that can extract metadata > embedded in digital photographs and then ingest that metadata into a CMS > and relate them to their corresponding images. We currently use DigiTool, > if that makes a difference. > > Thanks! > > Shea Swauger > Data Management Librarian > Colorado State Univeristy >
[CODE4LIB] Website back up services
Does anyone have a recommendation for a website backup service? I would like something where I provide FTP and MySQL connection info, and they do something like make a monthly backup, keep backups for about a year, and will do a roll back from their end. How frequently they do a backup doesn't really matter. The biggest factors are pricing and having an interface that someone who doesn't understand databases could use. -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] We should use HTTPS on code4lib.org
I haven't played much with requesting a page be archived, so it's only a handful of links I had tried. From what Eric Hellman posted about hiccups, it doesn't sound like https is a barrier if you set up the site and want to allow archiving. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: > The Archive says they can, but I've asked WR for the files she had trouble > with and they'll try them out. To be sure, there wasn't a huge amount of > testing that took place, so glitches are not unsurprising. > > > kc > > On 11/9/13 3:13 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke wrote: > >> I don't think Internet Archive will view https sites. Internet Archive >> just a few weeks ago added the option to let you add a page while >> browsing, >> and I have been unable to add https pages when I submit them. >> >> -Wilhelmina Randtke >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ranti Junus >> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >>> >>> If code4lb.org switched to HTTPS by default, can their content still be >>> archived by the Internet Archive? >>> >>> >>> thanks, >>> ranti. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Ordway, Ryan >> >>>> wrote: >>>> The simplest solution would be to modify the settings.php to start >>>> >>> pushing >>> >>>> everything over HTTPS once someone has hit an HTTPS URL. The current >>>> code4lib server has been here at OSU longer than I have (and I've been >>>> >>> here >>> >>>> for 8+ years), and it's at MOST running at about 25% CPU capacity. >>>> >>> Pushing >>> >>>> everything over HTTPS is probably fine too. >>>> >>>> As for additional administrative overhead, if someone else wants to >>>> >>> manage >>> >>>> the certificate procurement and renewal, it takes me about 5 minutes >>>> >>> every >>> >>>> year to put a new certificate in place and then restart Apache once I >>>> >>> have >>> >>>> a certificate file. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Chad Fennell wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Ross Singer >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess I just don't see why http and https can't coexist. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> They can definitely coexist, but there is a corresponding maintenance >>>>> >>>> cost >>>> >>>>> and a slightly higher risk profile (e.g. session hijacking is still >>>>> possible in a variety of mixed http/https configurations). I noticed a >>>>> >>>> a >>> >>>> pretty good, if a bit dated, run-down of the tradeoffs for various >>>>> >>>> secure >>> >>>> setups in Drupal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://drupalscout.com/knowledge-base/drupal-and-ssl- >>> multiple-recipes-possible-solutions-https >>> >>>> . >>>>> Even if the solutions have somewhat changed, it does get at the idea of >>>>> what some of the tradeoffs are between security, usability and >>>>> >>>> maintenance. >>>> >>>>> Just today, I noticed a security alert ( >>>>> >>>> https://drupal.org/node/2129381) >>> >>>> for the Drupal 6 Secure Pages module where theoretically secured pages >>>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>>> forms could be transmitted in the clear. This is the module you'd most >>>>> likely use to achieve a mixed http/https site in Drupal. >>>>> >>>>> I have personally tended to just put everything behind https because of >>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>> added work/modules/maintenance associated to running it along side of >>>>> >>>> http >>>> >>>>> (in Drupal, specifically), but I am a lazy person with access to free >>>>> >>>> certs >>>> >>>>> and ferncer servers. >>>>> >>>>> HTH >>>>> -- >>>>> Chad Fennell >>>>> Web Developer >>>>> University of Minnesota Libraries >>>>> (612) 626-4186 >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bulk mail. Postage paid. >>> >>> > -- > Karen Coyle > kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet >
Re: [CODE4LIB] We should use HTTPS on code4lib.org
I don't think Internet Archive will view https sites. Internet Archive just a few weeks ago added the option to let you add a page while browsing, and I have been unable to add https pages when I submit them. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ranti Junus wrote: > Hi All, > > If code4lb.org switched to HTTPS by default, can their content still be > archived by the Internet Archive? > > > thanks, > ranti. > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Ordway, Ryan >wrote: > > > The simplest solution would be to modify the settings.php to start > pushing > > everything over HTTPS once someone has hit an HTTPS URL. The current > > code4lib server has been here at OSU longer than I have (and I've been > here > > for 8+ years), and it's at MOST running at about 25% CPU capacity. > Pushing > > everything over HTTPS is probably fine too. > > > > As for additional administrative overhead, if someone else wants to > manage > > the certificate procurement and renewal, it takes me about 5 minutes > every > > year to put a new certificate in place and then restart Apache once I > have > > a certificate file. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Chad Fennell wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Ross Singer > > wrote: > > > > > > > I guess I just don't see why http and https can't coexist. > > > > > > > > > > > They can definitely coexist, but there is a corresponding maintenance > > cost > > > and a slightly higher risk profile (e.g. session hijacking is still > > > possible in a variety of mixed http/https configurations). I noticed a > a > > > pretty good, if a bit dated, run-down of the tradeoffs for various > secure > > > setups in Drupal > > > > > > > > > http://drupalscout.com/knowledge-base/drupal-and-ssl-multiple-recipes-possible-solutions-https > > > . > > > Even if the solutions have somewhat changed, it does get at the idea of > > > what some of the tradeoffs are between security, usability and > > maintenance. > > > > > > Just today, I noticed a security alert ( > https://drupal.org/node/2129381) > > > for the Drupal 6 Secure Pages module where theoretically secured pages > > and > > > forms could be transmitted in the clear. This is the module you'd most > > > likely use to achieve a mixed http/https site in Drupal. > > > > > > I have personally tended to just put everything behind https because of > > the > > > added work/modules/maintenance associated to running it along side of > > http > > > (in Drupal, specifically), but I am a lazy person with access to free > > certs > > > and ferncer servers. > > > > > > HTH > > > -- > > > Chad Fennell > > > Web Developer > > > University of Minnesota Libraries > > > (612) 626-4186 > > > > > > > > > -- > Bulk mail. Postage paid. >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents in Institutional Repositories.
The intellectual property is a patent, not a copyright. The actual patent that was granted can be retrieved from the US Patent and Trademark Office. The paper documentation can be copied and posted freely by anyone. Copyright is not an issue here. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Oct 30, 2013 2:45 PM, "Lydia Zvyagintseva" wrote: > Sure, apologies for out-of-the-blue questions. > > Well, a faculty member approaches the repository with their CV and asks us > to investigate all their publications to see how much of their work we can > deposit. They list their patents as part of their scholarly output on their > CV. My understanding is that by virtue of having a patent, they hold the > copyright to that intellectual property, and since they produced it in an > educational institution, we are free to capture their work in an IR. > However, that would depend on what the details of the patent granted > include, which is there the communication with the faculty member has to > happen. Am I off the mark here? I found a couple of patents in arXiv and > wanted to see how others treat these types of documents. > > Thank you! > L. > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Matthew Sherman > wrote: > > > Can you provide context? I am trying to understand why you would put a > > patent in an IR. > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Lydia Zvyagintseva > >wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Forgive me if this question has been asked before on this listserv, but > > I'm > > > trying to gather some info for proceeding with patents down the road. > > > > > > Do you have patents in your IR? What priority do they take in your > > > repository process? What's your workflow when dealing with them? Any > > > special considerations? > > > > > > Many thanks for any input! > > > > > > -- > > > *Lydia Zvyagintseva* > > > MA/MLIS Candidate > > > Founder, HackYEG <http://hackyeg.com> > > > School of Library and Information Studies > > > Humanities Computing > > > University of Alberta, Edmonton, AB > > > lyd...@ualberta.ca > > > lydiazv.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > *Lydia Zvyagintseva* > MA/MLIS Candidate > Founder, HackYEG <http://hackyeg.com> > School of Library and Information Studies > Humanities Computing > University of Alberta, Edmonton, AB > lyd...@ualberta.ca > lydiazv.com >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Question for Institutional Repository Folks
When I check Adobe's site, I see that "All Adobe products enforce the restrictions set by the permissions password. However, if third-party products do not support these settings, document recipients are able to bypass some or all of the restrictions you set." http://help.adobe.com/en_US/acrobat/X/pro/using/WSD012A4E1-51D1-4bcd-BA9F-EF03C6F20BB6.html I would be interested to know whether anyone has a good alternative PDF editor to Acrobat Professional. My hunch is that an app for editing PDFs is most likely to have a high level of functionality, because someone handling PDFs on a desktop will just get Acrobat Professional. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Matthew Sherman wrote: > Hello Code4libbers, > > I had a question for for others who work with institutional repositories. > I have a file given by the a professor that I have permission to post if I > add a note to the PDF, but the file is password locked. Has anyone else > run into this problem before? Can anyone give me some advice in how I can > edit this to add the required note to the top of the PDF? Any advice is > welcome. > > Matt Sherman >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Separate library CMS systems vs Campus-wide CMS systems (was [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it)
Avoid Contribute, if possible. A Dreamweaver and Contribute framework makes for a very flexible website. But... the Contribute editor accounts have to be very locked down or else there will be some problems with the two programs playing together. In Contribute, it is possible to enable editing as text, which gives you all the power of fingers on keyboard coding. However, a site done in Dreamweaver with templates and other structural awesomeness pretty much rules out edit as text in Contribute. If you go in and edit as text with Contribute, it is very easy to accidentally disassociate a page from the Dreamweaver template. Then when there is an update to the template, you have problems. Most likely, your page will kick back to what it looked like the last time it was in compliance with the template. There may also be some problems editing pages that use spry widgets, so some of the awesome looking things that are easy in Dreamweaver are off the table in Contribute. The alternative to edit as text is to allow you to insert code snippets in Contribute, but then going in and editing them later is annoying. Like every CMS ever, Contribute will insert some white space or garbage at times. And with no way to edit code, you can't fix these issues. When you say there are no plugins or scripting for Contribute, that's not true of the program. That's how your campus has configured things. It's a political issue, not 100% tech. But they have very good technology reasons to lock down the Contribute accounts, from Dreamweaver and Contribute not working well together. A politically favorable main campus which wants to serve does best by not giving you enough rope to hang yourself, and no matter how techy you are, it's easy to do that in innately buggy Contribute. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Joshua Welker wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions as to where the library should or should > not compromise when it comes to using an institutional CMS rather than a > custom library one? We are going through this process right now. Our web > pages are currently all in static HTML and LibGuides. I am wanting to move > to Drupal, and campus IT wants us to move to their Adobe Contribute > platform. AFAIK, Contribute does not allow for any server-side scripting > and does not have any sort of plugin system, and I am very concerned that > Contribute would harm the library's ability to effectively integrate its > online resources into a single web portal (server-side caching, indexes, > scheduled tasks, etc). > > I know the answer to this question is "it depends," but I am hoping others > can share the fruits of their experience. > > Thoughts? > > Josh Welker > Information Technology Librarian > James C. Kirkpatrick Library > University of Central Missouri > Warrensburg, MO 64093 > JCKL 2260 > 660.543.8022 > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Jimmy Ghaphery > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:49 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it > > I have followed this thread with great interest. In 2011 Erin White and I > researched many of the issues the group has been hitting on, demonstrating > the popularity of LibGuides in ARL libraries, the locus of control outside > of systems' departments, and the state of content policies.[1] > > Our most challenging statement in the article to the library tech > community (which was watered down a bit in the peer review process) was > "The popularity of LibGuides, at its heart a specialized content > management system, also calls into question the vitality and/or > adaptability of local content management system implementations in > libraries." > > One of the biggest challenges I see toward creating a non-commercial > alternative is that the library code community is so dispersed in the > various institutions that it makes it difficult to get away from the > download tar.gz model. Are our institutions ready to collaborate across > themselves such that there could be a shared SaaS model (of anything > really) that libraries could subscribe/contribute to? The barriers here > certainly aren't technological, but more along the lines of policy, > governance, etc. > > As for Research Guides in general, I see a very clear divide in the > public/tech communities not only on platform but more philosophical. From > the tech side once it is all boiled down, heck why do you even need a > third party system; catalog the databases with some type of local genres > and push out an api/xml feeds to various disciplines. From the public side > there is a long lineage of individually curated guides that goes to t
Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it
Well, see, there you've said that the technology skills for open source are all on the install/maintenance side. Duh. Install and maintenance needs to be done by someone. Writing a check to outsource install and maintenance is one way to get those skills. Writing a check to Springshare solves technology issues, because Springshare provides the same product across libraries. An open source community, where a variety of companies provide services, will have some companies that provide a better deal than others and even vendors who provide different service to different clients based on how savvy the client is. The answer to proprietary hosted is not files with tar.gz extension or coding. The functionality most libraries get from a LibGuides is to get away from some IT bottleneck, avoid hassles of running a server and backups, or even have political clout by using a CMS that is only used by libraries (ie. if IT has heard of the CMS before, that's a much more uphill battle to use it). My guess is about nobody cares about similar functionality in terms of boxes here, boxes there, widgets. A way to promote an open source alternative would be to identify reputable hosts who already provide services. Then be informed about those so that libraries know what they can outsource where, and to give an impression of library community around specific sets of outsourcing arrangements, so that libraries have political clout to present a chosen vendor as a "library issue" that can't be implemented in a one-size-fits all CMS provided by a parent institution. Making some tar.gz files is futile and misses the point. Does anyone really not get that? -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Andrew Darby wrote: > I don't get this argument at all. Why is it "counter productive to try to > look at open source alternatives" if the vendor's option is relatively > cheap? Why wouldn't you investigate all options? Maybe the vendor option > makes sense, maybe the open source option does. > > The "technology skills" for open source software are on the > install/maintenance side. It's not like the content creator has to do some > crazy programming if they want to create a guide in the open source option, > while in LibGuides a team of angels guides their every click and drag. > > And if technology skills are missing, how does writing a check to > Springshare remedy the situation? How does sending that check to > Springshare benefit the "small poorly resourced" libraries? > > I assume I'm preaching to choir when I say that we should all be open to > supporting our peers' open source efforts, rather than dismissing them out > of hand. > > Andrew > > > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke >wrote: > > > Technology tools are a non issue here. Straightforward documented open > > source technology is readily available. What is missing is technology > > skills. Someone can't buy those if they don't already have technology > > skills, or else they are a sitting duck for scammers. > > > > With a basic pricing of about $1000 a year, it's counter productive to > try > > look at open source alternatives. $1000 a year with more handholding is > > good. Even companies, like lishost, which do open source for libraries > > price in this same range, because they have to take on more handholding. > I > > also don't see vendor lock in issues in LibGuides, since the research > > guides concept includes routine change and replacing content. > > > > If you want libraries to operate better, what you should be doing is > having > > conversations with people from a variety of libraries, including small > > poorly resourced ones, recognizing that there is a spectrum of needs, and > > being available to provide realistic advice. (That advice would be > > different for different libraries.) > > > > Lack of access to technology skill creates the situations in which > > LibGuides is useful and beneficial. Lack of access to technology > > skill causes most situations in which LibGuides are a counter productive > > waste of time, whether that's a misguided administrator or poor > > interdepartmental communication (yes, even competent IT housed in a > library > > is sometimes not proactive and helpful at being in touch with IT-hostile > > reference departments). If you have technology skill, then by having > broad > > connections and being available to give advice or pointers, you can > assist > > libraries / departments that don't have the luxury of having access to > > technology skill. If all you do is drum on open source diy, when
Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it
There's not a lock-in issue with LibGuides, because it's used to host pathfinders. Those are supposed to be periodically revisited. One of the big problems is that librarians will start a guide and never finish, or make one then never maintain it. Periodically deleting everything is a good thing for pathfinders and subject guides, and people should do it anyway. No one's talking about tools for digital archives, which have lock in issues and are way more expensive. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Thomas Krichel wrote: > Andrew Darby writes > > > I don't get this argument at all. > > I breathe a sigh of relief. I didn't understand it either, but > I blamed my brain fog. > > > Maybe the vendor option makes sense, maybe the open source option > > does. > > The vendor option may be based on it just hosting the open source > option. I do that sort of thing. LibGuides don't seem to do that, > as they appear to have their own proprietary software. > > Wilhelmina Randtke writes: > > > I also don't see vendor lock in issues in LibGuides, since the research > > guides concept includes routine change and replacing content. > > No lock in because you can rewrite everything? Hmm... > > Cheers, > > Thomas Krichel http://openlib.org/home/krichel > skype:thomaskrichel >
Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it
Technology tools are a non issue here. Straightforward documented open source technology is readily available. What is missing is technology skills. Someone can't buy those if they don't already have technology skills, or else they are a sitting duck for scammers. With a basic pricing of about $1000 a year, it's counter productive to try look at open source alternatives. $1000 a year with more handholding is good. Even companies, like lishost, which do open source for libraries price in this same range, because they have to take on more handholding. I also don't see vendor lock in issues in LibGuides, since the research guides concept includes routine change and replacing content. If you want libraries to operate better, what you should be doing is having conversations with people from a variety of libraries, including small poorly resourced ones, recognizing that there is a spectrum of needs, and being available to provide realistic advice. (That advice would be different for different libraries.) Lack of access to technology skill creates the situations in which LibGuides is useful and beneficial. Lack of access to technology skill causes most situations in which LibGuides are a counter productive waste of time, whether that's a misguided administrator or poor interdepartmental communication (yes, even competent IT housed in a library is sometimes not proactive and helpful at being in touch with IT-hostile reference departments). If you have technology skill, then by having broad connections and being available to give advice or pointers, you can assist libraries / departments that don't have the luxury of having access to technology skill. If all you do is drum on open source diy, when there is a low cost alternative that works, then you harm things. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Andrew Darby wrote: > There are open source solutions created by librarians: SubjectsPlus and > Library a la Carte. > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Cornel Darden Jr. < > corneldarde...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Hello? > > > > Soringshre's link-rot tool has gotten much better. Even at alerting > admins > > about broken links. I think $999 a year for the basic package is worth it > > since most librarians aren't coders like we 'ALL' should be! Maybe an > open > > source solution created by librarians is needed. However database > > management will still require librarians to pick up those skills like SQL > > that we too often think isn't or shouldn't be a skill that a librarian > must > > have. It's the 21st century > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cornel Darden Jr. > > MSLIS > > Librarian > > Kennedy-King College > > City Colleges of Chicago > > Work 773-602-5449 > > Cell 708-705-2945 > > > > > On Aug 11, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Robert Sebek wrote: > > > > > >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Heather Rayl <23e...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > >> I have to say that I loathe LibGuides. My library makes extensive use > of > > >> them, too. Need a web solution? The first thing out of someone's mouth > > is > > >> "Let's put it in a LibGuide!" > > >> > > >> Shudder > > >> > > >> This fall, I'll be moving our main site over to Drupal, and I'm hoping > > that > > >> eventually I can convince people to re-invent their LibGuides there. I > > can > > >> use the "saving money" card, and the "content silos are bad" card and > > >> *maybe* I will be successful. > > >> > > >> Anyone fought this particular battle before? > > >> > > >> ~heather > > >> > > >> I'm fighting that battle right now. We have an excellent CMS into > which > > I > > > have set up all our database URLs, descriptions, etc.Anytime we need to > > > refer to a database on a page, we use one of those entries. That > database > > > just changed platforms? No problem. I change the URL in one place and > > > everything automatically updates (hooray CMSs!). > > > > > > All of our subject guides (http://www.lib.vt.edu/subject-guides/) are > in > > > the CMS using the exact same database entries. I converted from our > > > failing, home-grown system into the CMS and then gave training on how > to > > > maintain from there (remove an entry, add an entry, create a parallel > > > course guide)--using the same skills as maintaining any other web page > > that > > > librarian is responsib
Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it
For Wordpress versus LibGuides, both are kind of miserable and unsatisfying unless you are with a large library with in-house systems staff. LibGuides was clunky and extremely limited when I used it a few years ago. I also found Springshare tech support was not at all responsive to questions or requests, but perhaps that has changed. Nevertheless, LibGuides removes a technology bottleneck just by virtue of being hosted. A library using LibGuides does not need anyone with server administration background, etc. Small libraries don't. The pricing is also relatively flat, and a library will get the same pricing quoted to it, even if no one there knows tech. Wordpress is not a good option for a small library, where there are no or only one staff with technology background. A simple Wordpress install is easy for a novice to configure by picking colors for a theme, and then to make accounts to update content. But also, even a one click install is difficult for many people. And once there is an install, getting to the added functionality is not necessarily possible. The same libraries that LibGuides is made for (small libraries without in-house IT) may have limited technical support to the point where they aren't going to be able to go shopping for a plugin and extend functionality. Me, I wouldn't move to Wordpress. I know tech but no one else in my library has background in SQL. So, no one could be trained to do a backup, reinstall, and reload of a Wordpress without putting a huge amount of time into training. LibGuides is also going to by default handle things like electronic resource links. Wordpress will not, and if there is ever a problem with cut-and-pasting something into Wordpress and it getting reformatted, suddenly you have moved from easy to hard in terms of fixing that problem. It is not possible for someone with no IT background to hire a Wordpress developer. Wordpress get a lot of quacks. If you look at small businesses using Wordpress, and find how they got their developer, what they paid, and what charges are for specific services, you will seen some terrible rip offs. Just really terrible. And the quacks seem to out number the legitimate Wordpress developers. Not just on Craigslist, but businesses that do Wordpress and have Yellow Pages listings and offices and have been around for years. Sometimes the Wordpress developers will even buy the URL for you, and then hold the URL hostage. Sales for Wordpress skills can be very unethical, to the point of shocking, and the clients often feel uncomfortable but do not realize how badly they have been taken until years later. LibGuides at least has a vendor who is used to dealing with libraries and will provide fair pricing for basic services, including no charge for things that should not require a charge. And, if you are in a large library, you probably have high enough traffic to your site, that Wordpress becomes more complicated in order to avoid performance issues from high traffic and too many database calls. You as an individual cannot experiment with a site that get 5,000 visits per day. Do you really have experience configuring Wordpress or any other CMS in that environment? -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:23 PM, davesgonechina wrote: > I've not had an opportunity to use LibGuides, but I've seen a few and read > the features list on the SpringShare. All I see is a less flexible > WordPress at a higher price point. What advantages am I not seeing? If > there aren't any, is it the case that once signed up, migration to an open > source platform is just not worth it for most institutions? >
Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it
If you look at the subject guides plugin for Drupal, you will see that mimicking LibGuides is possible. That might be a way to appease, however the biggest issue I saw with LibGuides was too many librarians making something and never updating, or starting a guide, publishing it, then never finishing. So, maybe you want to go back to some kind of structured control. You aren't saving money, unless LibGuides has drastically raised prices in the last 2 years. When I worked with it up through 2011, pricing was comparable to running a Wordpress or Drupal install on lishost or other more "full service" host - low four digits per year. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Heather Rayl <23e...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have to say that I loathe LibGuides. My library makes extensive use of > them, too. Need a web solution? The first thing out of someone's mouth is > "Let's put it in a LibGuide!" > > Shudder > > This fall, I'll be moving our main site over to Drupal, and I'm hoping that > eventually I can convince people to re-invent their LibGuides there. I can > use the "saving money" card, and the "content silos are bad" card and > *maybe* I will be successful. > > Anyone fought this particular battle before? > > ~heather > > On Sunday, August 11, 2013, Sean Hannan wrote: > > > All of this, plus SpringShare has great support. Like, the best of any > > library vendor I've dealt with. I've had them implement features within > an > > hour of me sending the email suggesting it. > > > > The big downside of LibGuides is that it's ease of use (and ease if > reuse) > > leads to content sprawl like you wouldn't believe. The new version has a > > publishing workflow that can help mitigate this, but it's better to go > into > > a LibGuides project with a content strategy firmly in place. > > > > -Sean > > > > From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU ] on > > behalf of Sullivan, Mark V [mars...@uflib.ufl.edu ] > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:44 PM > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it > > > > First, SpringShare has great marketing. > > > > Secondly, it is a very simple CMS that was offered at a time that many > > libraries were not getting good web support from IT. LibGuides became > the > > easiest way to edit web pages for many people. It is certainly true at > my > > institution, where we have had whole departments and units move their > > official website to LibGuides, rather than deal with Adobe Contribute and > > loose HTML files. I am now in the midst of trying to fix that problem by > > rolling out an enterprise-level web cms, but I am finding many pages that > > have quietly moved to LibGuides. > > > > There IS the one compelling thing about sharing a module between > different > > institutions on LibGuides. If one of our faculty members generates a > list > > of special resources for a topic, another faculty member in another > > institution can just insert that module into their page. Of course, the > > worldwide web solved pretty much the same problems ages ago with the > > invention of links, so I'm not sure that is really that compelling > anymore. > > > > Just my two cents.. > > > > Mark > > > > > > From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU ] on > > behalf of davesgonechina [davesgonech...@gmail.com ] > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:23 PM > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > Subject: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides: I don't get it > > > > I've not had an opportunity to use LibGuides, but I've seen a few and > read > > the features list on the SpringShare. All I see is a less flexible > > WordPress at a higher price point. What advantages am I not seeing? If > > there aren't any, is it the case that once signed up, migration to an > open > > source platform is just not worth it for most institutions? > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby
Library community programming is heavy on the string processing, right? So, just use a language that's good for that. Anyway, once you learn one, it's faster to learn another. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Peter Schlumpf wrote: > Python and Ruby (and any other programming languages) are just tools. > Some do some things better than others. > > Imagine if the library community had its own programming/scripting > language, at least one that is domain relevant. What would it look like? > > > Peter Schlumpf > > > > -Original Message- > >From: Joshua Welker > >Sent: Jul 29, 2013 10:43 AM > >To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > >Subject: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby > > > >Not intending to start a language flame war/holy war here, but in the > >library coding community, is there a particular reason to use Ruby over > >Python or vice-versa? I am personally comfortable with Python, but I have > >noticed that there is a big Ruby following in Code4Lib and similar > >communities. Am I going to be able to contribute and work better with the > >community if I use Ruby rather than Python? > > > >I am 100% aware that there is no objective way to answer which of the two > >languages is the best. I am interested in the much more narrow question of > >which will work better for library-related scripting projects in terms of > >the following factors: > > > >-existing modules that I can re-use that are related to libraries (MARC > >tools, XML/RDF tools, modules released by major vendors, etc) > >-availability of help from others in the community > >-interest/ability of others to re-use my code > > > >Thanks. > > > >Josh Welker > >Information Technology Librarian > >James C. Kirkpatrick Library > >University of Central Missouri > >Warrensburg, MO 64093 > >JCKL 2260 > >660.543.8022 >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Wordpress: Any way to selectively control caching for content areas on a page?
All campus pages are cached. This is a huge problem for displaying library hours, because these change periodically (breaks between semester, spring to summer, intersession, holidays). If a person has been to a page, even a month ago, they may see the older information - like seeing spring hours on the page, even though summer hours are posted. I want the tiny little content area I can edit to not be cached, even though the giant campus template it appears in is cached and has to be lest the server go down with only tiny amounts of traffic. I am guessing caching is through the browser and not server side. Suppose, I go into a page with two browsers (so, maybe Firefox and Internet Explorer both on my computer). Then I edit the page. Then I refresh one browser. Then I close the browsers and go back to the page with both browsers. This will show me the old page with the browser I didn't refresh, and the new page with the one I did. By the way, you can see what plugins are installed on a Wordpress site. You take the list of plugins ( maybe this one posted here http://plugins.svn.wordpress.org/ ), then you append the plugin name to urlyouarelookingat.com/wp-content/plugins/ , then you run the list of URLs through Xenu Link Sleuth to check if you get a 404 or a 503. 404 means it is not installed. 503 (access forbidden) means the plugin is installed, but does not tell you if it is activated or not. I think with some scripting and looking at Wordpress, I could get a list of active plugins, but I just pulled a list of installed plugins because that was what was easy to do. This will not find custom plugins because it's just looking for the named list, so if you have a developer who wrote their own, then you can't see that, but you also wouldn't be able to examine the plugin source code, so it doesn't really matter to know names of custom plugins. In my case, I highly doubt any custom plugins were used. Based on a quickly pulled list of plugins, I suspect the caching is done through w3-total-cache. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > > What is most useful for me is very general conceptual directions on how > to > force certain pages to refresh within a CMS, and a sanity check as to > whether it is possible to force a refresh for only certain content areas on > a page with several content areas. > > > My feeling is that it would be possible to force a refresh of certain > pages, but that needs to be done from the html header. My feeling is that > it's not possible to force a refresh for specific content areas only, but > if anyone knows conceptually how to do this, then I would love to be > pleasantly surprised. > > If you're talking about HTTP-level caching, yes. It's controlled by > headers on the HTTP response, and thus is page-by-page, meaning both a > whole page (URL) at a time, and that for pages to be cached differently > they need different HTTP headers delivered with them, by the CMS or web app > or web server. > > Some CMS's have their own internal caching, that is not HTTP-level caching > and is invisible to the client or user-agent, it's done just inside the > 'black box' of the CMS. So even in cases where the browser will not cache > the page, where the browser will make a request to the server for the page > -- the server may then serve the page from it's own internal cache, for > instance to save the time of going to the database and rendering the HTML, > just serve already rendered HTML out of an inside-the-server cache. This > kind of cache can possibly operate on a portion of the page, it depends on > how the hypothetical CMS is written. > > So that's a conceptual overview. > > With WordPress specifically? People have suggested some WordPress plugins > that do caching in various different ways. But when you don't have any > control over the WordPress installation? I guess it depends on if they have > any such plugins installed, which only they know. > > What is your motivation here? Just curiosity? Or are you _wanting_ your > pages to be cached, when they are not already? -- if so, why? Or are > things being cached that you do not want cached, and you need to fix it? Or > what? >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Wordpress: Any way to selectively control caching for content areas on a page?
Just to clarify, I have a locked down account ( anchors aren't even enabled! ) on a campus system. I want to know whether there is a way to selectively not cache a specific content area. In this case, I want to display library hours and announcements. Library hours are sometimes changed for holidays, and I don't want a weeks old cache to result in a patron getting wrong information. I want to know whether it is possible to set it up so that the main content area of pages is not cached while menus and repetitive items are, or, alternatively, whether it is possible to selectively disable caching from specific pages so I can request this for pages that change frequently. I want to know how to do either of these, so I can do a proof of concept on a smaller Wordpress install which I can configure, then send to main campus a request for it and general instructions on how to do it. What is most useful for me is very general conceptual directions on how to force certain pages to refresh within a CMS, and a sanity check as to whether it is possible to force a refresh for only certain content areas on a page with several content areas. My feeling is that it would be possible to force a refresh of certain pages, but that needs to be done from the html header. My feeling is that it's not possible to force a refresh for specific content areas only, but if anyone knows conceptually how to do this, then I would love to be pleasantly surprised. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke wrote: > In a Wordpress site, is there a way to allow site-wide caching, but force > certain areas of a page to reload on each visit? > > For example, if on a specific page there is a huge navigational menu that > never changes, a map that rarely changes, and hours of operation which > change frequently (as often as holidays), is there a way to force only the > hours of operation to reload when a person revisits the page? > > -Wilhelmina Randtke >
[CODE4LIB] Wordpress: Any way to selectively control caching for content areas on a page?
In a Wordpress site, is there a way to allow site-wide caching, but force certain areas of a page to reload on each visit? For example, if on a specific page there is a huge navigational menu that never changes, a map that rarely changes, and hours of operation which change frequently (as often as holidays), is there a way to force only the hours of operation to reload when a person revisits the page? -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] Policies for 3D Printers
Libraries charge to lend books. Late fines are almost universal, and lost items will result in a charge for replacement costs. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:06 PM, BWS Johnson wrote: > Salvete! > > > > We've got $800 worth of filament which we expect will last us a long, > long > > time. > > Rather than charge for prints, we are trying to create a different type > of > > social contract in the space... we are encouraging heavy users to > > contribute back and donate time, expertise, and materials. > > If it sounds idealistic, that is because it is. But it is working. We > are > > trying to create a different culture in this space than is typical of > > libraries, and so far so good... > > > > Fingers crossed, I hope it can last! > > > I disagree that this culture is different than the typical culture of > libraries. We don't, for the most part, charge to lend monographs. So why > is it that most do charge for photocopying, et cetera? If it's any comfort, > my tiny rural library more than made up for in donations what we let go for > free where others feed their patrons to death. Would you rather a .10 per > page surcharge 3 or 4 times a year or a $100 from the same person that > remembered you letting them use the copier those same 3-4 times for free? > (I did have a 10 page threshold, but almost no one topped that.) > > So yes, the freer the better. :D > > Cheers, > Brooke >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Policies for 3D Printers
Yes, that was my only comment. Supplies can can get expensive. Will you charge, and how will you handle that? It seems like it's not so different from recouping toner and paper when a person makes a Xerox. Putting pricing in the policy is a little too detailed, but maybe it should reference a price list. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Ramirez, Rue wrote: > Nate, are you planning to charge for use of the 3D printer and what is the > charge model? > > -- Rue > > > > -- Rue > > - > Renulfo (Rue) Ramirez > Associate University Librarian > Library Systems & Information Technology > University of British Columbia Library > > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Nate Hill > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:10 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Policies for 3D Printers > > This is a draft that will be tweaked and go before our board very soon. > Feedback from the group is greatly appreciated. > ### > > Chattanooga Public Library (CPL) is committed to offering community access > to new and emerging technologies as part of our public computing services. > In this age of digital publishing, desktop fabrication, and participatory > culture this means the library will offer access to physical and digital > tools which users will leverage to create, publish, and distribute their > own unique content. CPL applies the same standards to content that users > create in the library that we do to materials or media that the library > selects and purchases for public access. > > > It is the goal of the Library to provide a high quality collection of > books and media in a variety of formats and languages for all ages that is > responsive to the needs and interests of the community and reflective of > the diversity of the community. To support an informed public, the > collections represent diverse points of view, and may include materials > that some members of the public consider to be controversial in nature. > Likewise, when patrons use library tools as a platform for creative > expression, the objects and media they create represent diverse points of > view and may also be considered controversial by some members of the > public. The Chattanooga Public Library endorses the principles documented > in the American Library Association's Library Bill of Rights, Freedom to > Read Statement, Freedom to View Statement, Code of Ethics, and Core Values > of Librarianship Statement. The freedom of creative expression that is > granted to patrons when they use library tools to create unique content is > an extension of these same principles. > > > Library users will not be permitted to use public tools to create material > or media that are: > >- illegal to own or produce >- in violation of copyright or patent laws >- unsafe, harmful or pose immediate threat to the well being of others >present >- in violation of location-specific policies, for example tighter >restrictions might be placed on tools located in a children's area > > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Edward Iglesias > wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > It looks like we will be getting a 3D printer in the library and it is > > now my job to write up a policy for its use. Do any of you have > > similar policies you would be willing to share? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Edward Iglesias > > > > > > -- > Nate Hill > nathanielh...@gmail.com > http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ > http://www.natehill.net >
Re: [CODE4LIB] EAD vs. HTML for finding aids
EAD is the appropriate metadata schema for a finding aid. HTML is not a metadata schema. HTML in no way implies that a computer can read and process your finding aids. It has nothing to do with metadata. HTML is about visual display for people. The Wikipedia page on the EAD schema gives an overview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encoded_Archival_Description The schema goes box, folder, item... It is for describing collections of archival materials, and making a way to locate documents in that collection (ie. for making a finding aid). EAD is for something like all the papers of this one famous person. Material that isn't part of a set would get a different treatment. It is oriented around preserving the original order of the materials, and has a background assumption that researchers will make a physical visit to the archive to access the material. Some library oriented CMSes will have a plugin for handling EAD records. If any consortium in your area have an Archon install, then that is a good place to load EAD records so that they will be where researchers are likely to look. Since you don't know what EAD is, you should expect to spend some days dedicated to reading up on metadata in general. A good place for you to start would be NISO's Understanding Metadata http://www.niso.org/publications/press/UnderstandingMetadata.pdf . You could also start at the Wikipedia page for metadata. Then, when you don't understand things you should read the Wikipedia page for the schema you are looking at. All of this will be concise material. Before you actually make records, pull the actual schema and read it. The appropriate metadata standard will depend on who you expect to use your collection and where they will research it, the nature of your archives, and the staff time you have available for indexing. Once again, HTML is not a metadata standard, and is only for visual displays for people, not for computers to share records with other computers and search systems. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rachel Shaevel wrote: > Hello friendly Borg, > > Does anyone have anything thoughts about using EAD for finding aids vs. > HTML? Or are both going the way of the dinosaurs? > > Thanks! > Rachel > > Rachel Shaevel > Electronic Resources Cataloger > Technical Services/Catalog Department > Chicago Public Library > Harold Washington Library Center > 400 S. State St. > Chicago, IL 60605 > P: (312) 747-4660 > rshae...@chipublib.org<mailto:rshae...@chipublib.org> >
[CODE4LIB] File based CMSes
Has anyone worked with file based CMSes,and do you have a recommendation for one with simple backend? One of the issues with the CMS is that databases don't make sense to people without background in them. I want to look at static file based CMSes with the goal of finding something that is easier to write instructions on doing maintenance and backups for than is a database based CMS. -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf?
Yes, exactly. You will loose some of the image quality. If you change to a compressed format, then back to the TIFF, you can get the format, but you can't go back to the original file. Stop and think: What are your long term goals? Big files are clunky to work with. I'm guessing that's why you don't want TIFF. In my experience, files big enough to be clunky are discarded within a few years, regardless of the intentions when they were prepped. If you want to avoid big files, then your best bet is to assess and test the file you will actually keep and do the best job you can with it. So, if you want to rerun OCR in a few years when the recognition will be better, then make your PDFs in such a way that you can get decent OCR out of them today, and plan to rerun on those files, not the (discarded) originals. Don't think reformatting will get you any better image quality later. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:19 PM, James Gilbert wrote: > I'm by no means an expert in the math behind image format conversions... > but: > > When converting to TIFF-to-JPG, TIFF is uncompressed formatting and JPG is > compressed format. > > When back converting, wouldn't the original quality of TIFF would be lost, > converted only to the quality of the last JPG (with degradation on each > time > this process occurs)? > > James Gilbert, BS, MLIS > Systems Librarian > Whitehall Township Public Library > 3700 Mechanicsville Road > Whitehall, PA 18052 > 610-432-4339 ext: 203 > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Roy > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:15 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] tiff2pdf, then back to pdf? > > If you can stand an extrastep, Ed, there are tools to convert PDF to jpg > images, and from there it shouldn't be too hard to get TIFF output. Do a > search for "convert PDF to image" to get started. There are tools that are > not online only, which I'm pretty sure is what you're after. > > Roy Zimmer > Western Michigan University > > > On 4/26/2013 4:08 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have a need to batch convert many TIFF images to PDF. I'd then like > > to be able to discard the TIFF images, but I can only do that if I can > > create the original TIFF again from the PDF. Is this possible? If so, > > using what tools and how? > > > > tiff2pdf seems like a possible solution, but I can't find a > > corresponding "pdf2tif" program that reverses the process. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Edward >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Tool to highlight differences in two files
That helps a lot, because it's for websites which is what I want to compare. I am looking for changes in a site, and I have some archives, but tools for merging code are too labor intensive and don't give a good visual report that I can show to a supervisor. This is good moving forward, but doesn't cover historical pages. I was hoping for something where I could call up two pages and get a visual display of differences for the display version of html, not the code. -Wilhelmina On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Pottinger, Hardy J. < pottinge...@missouri.edu> wrote: > Hi, I'm not sure if you're really looking for a diff tool, so I'll just > shout an answer to a question that I think you might be asking. I use a > variation of the script posted here: > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1494488/watch-a-web-page-for-changes > > > for watching a web page for changes. I mostly only ever use this for > watching for new artifacts to appear in Maven Central (because refreshing > a web page is pretty dull "work"). > > Hope this helps. > > -- > HARDY POTTINGER > University of Missouri Library Systems > http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/ > https://MOspace.umsystem.edu/ > "Do you love it? Do you hate it? There it is, the way you made it." > --Frank Zappa > > > > > > On 4/23/13 3:24 PM, "Wilhelmina Randtke" wrote: > > >I would like to compare versions of a website scraped at different times > >to > >see what paragraphs on a page have changed. Does anyone here know of a > >tool for holding two files side by side and noting what is the same and > >what is different between the files? > > > >It seems like any simple script to note differences in two strings of text > >would work, but I don't know a tool to use. > > > >-Wilhelmina Randtke >
[CODE4LIB] Tool to highlight differences in two files
I would like to compare versions of a website scraped at different times to see what paragraphs on a page have changed. Does anyone here know of a tool for holding two files side by side and noting what is the same and what is different between the files? It seems like any simple script to note differences in two strings of text would work, but I don't know a tool to use. -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] Youtube search box
I hope the pre tags let you see the html by email. Here is some code you can paste in. In LibGuides, you will edit the box as text then paste this in, or embed some code. Depending on how you have LibGuides configured, librarians may not be able to do this, because you can turn off their ability to edit as text. -Wilhelmina Randtke Code for an embedded YouTube search box: http://www.youtube.com/results"; method="get" target="_blank"> Videos Channels On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Cornel Darden Jr. wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know of any widgets that would allow a YouTube search box in a > libguide? > > Thanks, > > -- > Cornel Darden Jr. MSLIS Librarian City Colleges of Chicago > corneldarde...@gmail.com >
[CODE4LIB] Tools for tracking software licenses
Can anyone recommend a tool for tracking licenses for software owned by the library. The (almost only) requirement is that it be easy to set up and maintain including maintenance by nontechnical people, but then it obviously has to be secure. I want to keep some information about purchases along with install codes and information about where to find install files. What I'm hoping for is any passingly popular content management system that controls access to linked files, as well as to information stored in a database. I don't have any support from a main campus IT department to track licenses for the library or set up something secure. I'm almost better going with spreadsheet and frequent emails, even though it's a painful backwards way to keep records, but want to explore options. -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] what do you do: API accounts used by library software, that assume an individual is registered
Actually, it's better to label confidential information with as big a "CONFIDENTIAL" notice as possible. This helps to prevent people inadvertently passing the file on. If you consistently label and sort aside your confidential information to keep it out of most systems, even out of your own hard drive, then you don't need to worry about security for the system generally, and it will be much easier to identify later when confidential information has been exposed. I have access to some student information through my job, and I don't post those files anywhere. As I go along, I notice what's confidential, and decide to either store it apart from other files or to delete it after using it for the task at hand. If I keep it, I put it in a separate area of my computer, instead of with the project file that I got the information in connection with. That way, if I have to copy project documentation for someone, I don't share anything that I couldn't share with the world. And just to be clear, passwords aren't necessarily confidential. I only care about those, if the password would give someone access to something they could mess up (ie. the database name and password for a public facing website run by the library) or to confidential information (for me, in a university, any information about students, but not much else). I have many passwords posted on a Drupal intranet, because they are passwords for tools that don't give access to other systems, so there isn't much someone could do with them. For example, a password to get to a generic library Google account that has viewing permissions to Google Analytics, but not administrator permissions, isn't confidential. I don't post it everywhere, but I don't worry about keeping it secret. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Rochkind > wrote: > > > Makes sense, thanks! Although leaving account/password list unencrypted > > on a shared drive seems potentially dangerous... > > > Just make sure the file they're stored in is named something like "Meeting > minutes for [insert name of most boring and dreaded committee at your local > institution]." If it makes you feel safer, put the data in the middle of > some _real_ meeting minutes... ;) > > Realistically speaking, unless you really have things locked down tight (in > which case it's hard as heck to collaborate which makes everyone take their > real work to dropbox and google as well as short circuit whatever security > is in place), anyone who has access to your drives has so much access to > sensitive data as well as the capability for whatever mischief that there > are few institutional accounts that would really give them the ability to > do much more than they already can. > > kyle >
Re: [CODE4LIB] what do you do: API accounts used by library software, that assume an individual is registered
There is one generic email address for the library I work for. That goes to the business manager who processes bills, etc. I usually put the contact email as my work email when I am first setting a service up and will be getting lots of email confirmations, etc. Then, when I am done configuring the account, I change the email to the generic one. All the services I can think of that are tied to an email address will let me change the email address so this works. I also keep an inventory of all accounts used by the library, and send a quarterly email with this list to the director and associate director, so that they can search email and get a listing of accounts if needed. (There are fewer than 10 librarians total, so that's not email overload, but in a large library, I would probably periodically send to my department head and immediate supervisor.) -Wilhelmina Randtke On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > Whether it's Amazon AWS, or Yahoo BOSS, or JournalTOCs, or almost anything > else -- there are a variety of API's that library software wants to use, > which require registering an account to use. > > They may or may not be free, sometimes they require a credit card attached > too. > > Most of them assume that an individual person is creating an account, the > account will be in that individual's name, with an email address, etc. > > This isn't quite right for a business or organization, like the library, > right? What if that person leaves the organization? But all this existing > software is using API keys attached to 'their' account? Or what if the > person doesn't leave, but responsibilities for monitoring emails from the > vendor (sent to that account) change? And even worse if there's an > institutional credit card attached to that account. > > I am interested in hearing solutions or approaches that people have > ACTUALLY tried to deal with this problem, and how well they have worked. > > I am NOT particularly interested in "Well, you could try X or Y"; I can > think of a bunch of things I _could_ try myself, each with their potential > strengths and weaknesses. I am interested in hearing about what people > actually HAVE tried or done, and how well it has worked. > > Has anyone found a way to deal with this issue, other than having each API > registered to an account belonging to whatever individual staff happened to > be dealing with it that day? > > Thanks for any advice. >
Re: [CODE4LIB] back to minorities question, seeking guidance
"Probably it was the wrong course. I think coding should start with building web pages. A calculator can't do that." HTML is called "markup language", but does anyone here really think it's a programming language? Even though is gets more complicated over time, it pretty much doesn't have variables or do interactive things, and is for displaying things, not manipulating things. My point about math and programming is that the curriculum for the average intro programming class appears to have been developed circa 1972 and never tweaked. I'm in Programming for Engineers right now, which is the prerequisite for the classes that looked useful. So far we have written lots of small programs to add numbers, find modulos, make a simple loop. All this would have been exciting before calculators. But, yeah, we have calculators now. And, actually, we had calculators before we had widespread access to affordable computers. Writing a page long program to add some numbers makes no sense. It's probably the least efficient way to solve the problem. Nothing about the coursework shows computers as useful at solving problems. Everything about the coursework shows computers as clunky inefficient, difficult to use calculators. And... here is something we haven't done... We have not yet called a function from inside a function. So, the whole object oriented thing has not yet appeared, and it's past midterm time. >From having looked at a bunch of syllabi online for different intro level programming classes, I think my experiences are the norm. The intro classes cover things you can do more easily without coding. This type of curriculum is off putting to at least some people. It also isn't necessary. I think it's possible to design a curriculum where students could have something to show that would be worthwhile now, as opposed to worthwhile in 1972 when adding many numbers at once was a big deal. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Thomas Krichel wrote: > Wilhelmina Randtke writes > > > Pretty much the whole entire entry level programming class for the > average > > class covers using code to do things that you can do much more easily > > without code. > > Probably it was the wrong course. I think coding should start with > building web pages. A calculator can't do that. > > Cheers, > > Thomas Krichelhttp://openlib.org/home/krichel > http://authorprofile.org/pkr1 >skype: thomaskrichel >
Re: [CODE4LIB] human rights violations elibrary for Haiti/France
The type of hosting plan will determine what kind of search they can do. Wordpress probably isn't the best platform for this, unless you can put a search layer on top of it. It's a bit clunky with handling the files - made for browsing to files, not searching. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Jason Raitz wrote: > Okay, I just got some more information that makes the problem much clearer > and adds a time sensitivity. > > I was going to cut and paste, but it looks like there is a legal factor to > this that may make sending identifiable information in the clear a bad > idea. It looks like this is actually an organization that it hoping to > document the human rights abuses conducted under the former Duvalier > dynasty in Haiti with the aim (I believe) of getting him convicted. It's > goal is to set up the library interface and have Renee go to to Haiti to > train people to use and manage the library. > > Renee does have background setting up Wordpress sites and writing basic > HTML. They've purchased hosting on Godaddy and hope to use a MySQL db. > the documents are in 4 languages and all types of media formats: pdf, > audio, images and video. > > current skeleton wordpress site: http://haiti-lutte-contre-limpunite.org > > They hope to create the whole shebang in the next month! Definitely > doesn't sound like an academic library timeframe. ;-) > > Jason > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Jason Raitz wrote: > > > Hi, > > I've just been contacted out of the blue by someone working with a joint > > Haitian/French human rights organization that needs to create a > searchable, > > bilingual elibrary on human rights violations in Haiti. They've secured > > hosting in America for various reasons and they have a few thousand or > more > > documents to store, index and make available. The lady I talked to had > an > > interest in using facets and storing the documents in a MySQL db. I > > briefly suggested that Solr and Blacklight might be where they're > heading. > > I also suggested that she might be able to get more help from an I-school > > like my alma mater, UNC-SILS. > > > > If anyone would like to assist her or has some ideas or experience with > > such things, her email is reneeasteria [at] gmail [dot] com. > > > > She didn't tell me much more beyond this. I believe that she doesn't > > consider herself a programmer (I bet we would consider her a coder :-) ), > > she's been working with statistical software for a number of years, and > > that she is able to learn what's necessary. > > > > I'm not sure of any protocols, but I went ahead and CC'd Renee on this > > message. > > > > Cheers, > > Jason Raitz > > NCSU Libraries > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Displaying archival books on ipad and android tablets
I had this problem last year. I did PDF. There are about no studies on PDF size and usability. What I did is go to gray scale for text pages to knock down file size, played with optimizing, and broke super long (think 3K page book) files in smaller chunks. It does not make for a pleasant browsing experience, but files load in a timely manner even on a poor connection, and files are not large enough to be cumbersome. I also had absolutely no IT infrastructure where I was at, so prepared and prepped PDFs in static file storage were my only option. If you have a CMS that will deliver pages, like maybe current page and preload next 5, or something like that, then you have many more options for a good user experience. When I looked at other big long books online, I found they tended to use 300 dpi gray scale or 600 dpi black and white. I just looked at government documents, because that's what I worked with. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: > We have a few digitized books, (some of them are old -- we're talking 500 > years). Sizes are all over the place but the big ones are easily the size > of a large briefcase. > > We want to make these works more accessible/usable and there's some demand > to make them available for tablets. What experience do people have with > stuff like that, and what software/services/methods do you recommend? > > Source files are 600 dpi uncompressed tiffs so they're pretty big and > there's nothing special about a book being over 10GB in size. Thanks, > > kyle >
Re: [CODE4LIB] back to minorities question, seeking guidance
The math you get in an introductory programming class is 4th grade math: add, subtract, divide, multiply, mod. It isn't the stuff that matters for big structural problems. And it's not practical. For a few numbers, I can do it faster with a calculator. For many numbers, I can do it quickly with a spreadsheet. If I want to print "Hello World" I can just type it into a text editor, or write it with a pencil. Why bother to write a program and fuss with a compiler? Pretty much the whole entire entry level programming class for the average class covers using code to do things that you can do much more easily without code. Even a programmer would just use a calculator to add some numbers. It's the opposite of useful. What to start with instead is an open question. When I was a child, Silicon Beach Software released WorldBuilder. This was something like a developer tool to make the kind of games Infocom made after they put pictures in games. I think it may have been derived from an Infocom developer tool. Anyway, it had basic objects you make - rooms, characters, items - and then for each you could attach code to it in a scripting language that was specific to the WorldBuilder platform. So you could call a random number generator from within a room, and based on the number returned, you could call or not call a character (ie. monster). You could attach to a character, the chance to bring a different character instead, and so could have a variety of characters with some probability of appearing. For an item you could give rules about it that change things, like switch one room for another, so that using a key switches a room with locked door for one with open door that allows movement in more directions. It was scripting for simple dungeon games and a simple drawing and photo import tool to make room images and sprites. It's a little worrying that there aren't introductory programming platforms that let someone do something interesting at a simple level (ie. just making a dungeon, based on a map, but not having any puzzles in the dungeon is still creative, and you can show it to someone to "walk" through), and then have added functionality you can reach via code (ie. probabilities that objects and other characters will appear in a room, items where possessing the item changes how a room works, so coding lets the static map become more interactive). Introductory level programming classes have no practical or impractical but fun applications to the world. Code doesn't do anything better, or faster, or previously impossible until way too far into formal education. Being useless is a huge turn off for me, and probably lots of other people. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Cary Gordon wrote: > While comprehensive specific math skill set might not be necessary in > programming, an understanding of mathematics beyond arithmetic can be > very useful. Relational database theory, for example, maps pretty > neatly to set theory. > > Mathematics in general delivers a lot of insight into dealing with > complex patterns. > > Is a solid math background necessary to program? Of course not. Sooner > or later though, programmers need a solid understanding of logic. > > Thanks, > > Cary > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Karen Coyle wrote: > > On 2/21/13 7:48 PM, Emily Morton-Owens wrote: > >> > >> > >> This was just the right thing to say, because he was connecting it to > >> something that I consider myself talented at (languages), rather than > >> something I don't (math). > > > > > > I want to clear up the "math is hard" and "programming is math" myths. > > First, the ratio of women to men in graduate math programs is approaching > > 50/50, although women are still struggling to be hired and gain tenure in > > math departments. So "math is hard" for many of us, but it's not > necessarily > > a gender thing. (I'm looking for the cite for this -- I've done too much > > random reading recently and didn't mark this. May be book below.) > > > > Math skills are not required for programming. There was a time when > silicon > > valley was desperate for programmers, and some companies advertised that > > they were looking for folks with music skills and they would teach them > > programming -- because they had found that musicians make for good > > programmers. It's the ability to deal with complex patterns that makes a > > difference. Which is why it annoys me when programming instruction begins > > with a list of mathematical functions that most programmers will never > need. > > > > I believe that Rosy was the first to recommend this, but the IEEE > &g
Re: [CODE4LIB] Providing Search Across PDFs
Yes, Google Custom Search is not too bad, if your PDFs are sorted meaningfully by directory, and if you submit a site map to Google for more complete indexing. You can use Xenu to make a site map, put the site map online as a static XML file, and then use Google Webmaster Tools to pass the location of the site map. This helps Google to index your site more completely. Then you periodically recreate and update the site map. For homegrown search, I would have recommended Swish-e, if you hadn't said it was out of reach. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Jason Griffey wrote: > This might not fit your need exactly, but a Google Custom Search ( > http://www.google.com/cse/) should do the job. You can have the Custom > Search only index a given directory, or only PDFs, whichever is more > useful. > > Jason > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Nathan Tallman > wrote: > > > My institution is looking for ways to provide search across PDFs through > > our website. Specifically, PDFs linked from finding aids. Ideally > searching > > within a collection's PDFs or possibly across all PDFs linked from all > > finding aids. > > > > We do not have a CMS or a digital repository. A digital repository is on > > the horizon, but it's a ways out and we need to offer the search sooner. > > I've looked into Swish-e but haven't had much luck getting anything off > the > > ground. > > > > One way we know we can do this through our discovery layer VuFind, using > > it's ability to full-text index a website based on a sitemap (which would > > includes PDFs linked from finding aids). Facets could be created for > > collections, and we may be able to create a search box on the finding > aid > > nav that searches specifically that collection. > > > > But, I'm not sure how scalable that solution is. The indexing agent > cannot > > discern when a page was updated, so it has to re-scrape, > > everything, every-night. The impetus collection is going to have about > over > > 1000 PDFs. And that's to start. Creating the index will start to take a > > long, long time. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas or know of any useful tools for this project? > > Doesn't have to be perfect, quick and dirty may work. (The OCR's dirty > > anyway :-) > > > > Thanks, > > Nathan > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Directories of OAI-PMH repositories
Thanks! The list of lists is very helpful. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Habing, Thomas Gerald wrote: > Here is a registry of OAI-PMH repositories that we maintain (sporadically) > here at Illinois: http://gita.grainger.uiuc.edu/registry/ > > Tom > > > -Original Message- > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > > Phillips, Mark > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:13 PM > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Directories of OAI-PMH repositories > > > > You could start here. > > > > http://www.openarchives.org/pmh/ > > > > Mark > > ________ > > From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of > > Wilhelmina Randtke [rand...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:03 PM > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > Subject: [CODE4LIB] Directories of OAI-PMH repositories > > > > Is there a central listing of places that track and list OAI-PMH > repository > > feeds? I have an OAI-PMH compliant repository, so now am looking for > > places to list that so that harvesters or anyone who is interested can > find it. > > > > -Wilhelmina Randtke >
[CODE4LIB] Directories of OAI-PMH repositories
Is there a central listing of places that track and list OAI-PMH repository feeds? I have an OAI-PMH compliant repository, so now am looking for places to list that so that harvesters or anyone who is interested can find it. -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] conf presenters: a kind request
If your university or any local professional groups have brown bag lunches with presentations, or anything informal and about the same amount of time as the conference presentation, then you can ask the group if you can do a dry run there. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Joe Hourcle wrote: > On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Bill Dueber wrote: > > [trimmed (and agreed with all of that)] > > > As Jonathan said: this is a great, great audience. We're all forgiving, > > we're all interested, we're all eager to lean new things and figure out > how > > to apply them to our own situations. We love to hear about your > successes. > > We *love* to hear about failures that include a way for us to avoid them, > > and you're going to be well-received no matter what because a bunch of > > people voted to hear you! > > I'd actually be interested in people's complaints about bad presentations; > I've been keeping notes for years, with the intention of making a > presentation on giving better presentations. (but it's much harder than > it sounds, as I plan on making all of the mistakes during the presentation) > > > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Rochkind > wrote: > > > >> We are all very excited about the conference next week, to speak to our > >> peers and to hear what our peers have to say! > >> > >> I would like to suggest that those presenting be considerate to your > >> audience, and actually prepare your talk in advance! > > [trimmed] > > >> Just practice it once in advance (even the night before, as a last > >> resort!), and it'll go great! > > > I did one of those 'Ignite' talks this year; because it's auto- > advancing slides, I went over it multiple times. My recommendation > is that you try to get various co-workers as guinea pigs. I even > subjected one of my neighbors to it, even though he wasn't necessarily > part of the intended audience. > > They gave me a lot of feed back -- asking for clarification on bits, > we realized I could trim down a couple of slides, giving me more > slides to expand other bits. I still screwed up the presentation, > but it would have been much worse if I hadn't practiced. > > My local ASIS&T chapter used to run 'preview' events before the > annual meeting, where the local folks presenting at annual were > invited to give their talks. If nothing else, it forced you to > have it done a couple of weeks early, but more importantly, it > gave me a chance to have a similar audience to what would be > at the main meeting ... one of my talks bombed hard; it was on > standards & protocols for scientific data, and I hadn't considered > just how bad a talk that's 50% acronyms would go over. I was > able to change how I presented the material so it wasn't quite > so painful the second time around. > > There's only been once when practicing in advanced made for a worse > presentation ... and that's because when I finished, PowerPoint asked > me if I wanted to save the timings ... what ever you do, do *not* > tell it yes. Because then it'll auto-advance your slides, so when > you skip over one slide during the practice, it'll not let you > have it up during the real talk. > > (There's a setting to turn off use of timings ... and the audience > laughed when I kept scolding the computer, but it still felt > horrible when I was up there) > > And it's important that you *must* practice in front of other > people. How fast you think it's going to take you, or how fast > it takes you talking to yourself is nothing like talking in > front of other people. > > ... > > So, all of that being said, some of the things I've made a note > of over the years. (it's incomplete, as I've still take notes > by hand, and there are more items on the back pages of the > various memo books I've had over the years) > > * Get there before the session, and test your presentation on the > same hardware as it's going to be presented from. This is > especially important if you're a Mac user, and presenting from > a PC, or visa-versa. Look for odd fonts, images that didn't > load, videos, abnormal gamma, bad font sizes (may result in > missing test), missing characters, incorrect justification, etc. > > * If you're going to be presenting from your own machine, still > test it out, to make sure that you have all of the necessary > adaptors, that you know what needs to be done to switch the > monitor, that the machine detects the projector at a reasonabl
Re: [CODE4LIB] usability testing software
Yes, Camtasia is much much smoother than CamStudio, and gets good quality videos at reasonable file size. CamStudio had given me horribly large files to get any resolution at all. (Note: Neither of these programs is usability testing software. They are just for screen casts, and screen recording.) -Wilhelmina Randtke On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Stephen Francoeur < stephen.franco...@gmail.com> wrote: > If all you need is something that will capture the screen as video and add > audio from a mic, then CamStudio or SnagIt will work (I've used both). But, > I have to admit, I've had those programs crash in the middle of a test. I'm > waiting to get my hands on Camtasia to see if it's more stable. > > Stephen Francoeur > > User Experience Librarian > > Newman Library > > Room 516 > > Baruch College > > 151 E. 25th Street > > New York, NY 10010 > > > > 646.312.1620 > > http://stephenfrancoeur.com > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Jason Michel > wrote: > > > I've been using Silverback but lately have had problems: crashing > > during export, exported file corrupted, and also crashing during the > > preview playback within the app itself. Any one else have these > > issues? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: > > > > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Julia Bauder > > wrote: > > > > > >> I've used this in the past: http://silverbackapp.com/. It's Mac-only > > (which > > >> was actually a drawback for the project I was working on!), it's > cheap, > > and > > >> did what we needed. It doesn't do nearly as much as Morae, though, so > it > > >> might not have specific features you need? > > > > > > I liked Silverback as well. BTW, you might also ask this question of > > Usability4Lib -- http://bit.ly/VxGls9 > > > > > > -- > > > Eric Morgan > > > > > > -- > http://stephenfrancoeur.com >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Group Decision Making (was Zoia)
"we wouldn't have to worry about coding up rules that work for every conceivable situation" I agree with Ian Wells here. It's a bad idea to try and cover every possible situation. Formal structure locks in something before it's tried and almost always that mean the wrong thing is locked in. Detailed restrictions on behavior are a bad idea because they aren't effective at preventing bad behavior and later, when you understand problem behaviors better or when new problems arise, it's difficult to change a complex detailed policy. A loose policy ends up being easier to apply and enforce. What should be covered concretely is how to handle a complaint. If complaints are handled well, then bad situations are more likely to be dealt with, and misunderstandings or not-so-bad situations are more likely to get to a point where the person who was offended can have closure, feel like they were listened to, and move on without leaving the group. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Ian Walls wrote: > +1 > > Perhaps, instead of a policy document (which is inherently rules-based), we > have a statement of belief and a pledge to stand by it (which is more of a > good-faith social contract). Those of us who believe in it could sign it > in > some way, perhaps through GitHub This way we'd still have a document to > point people at, but we wouldn't have to worry about coding up rules that > work for every conceivable situation. > > A basic statement of belief: > > We don't believe that people should harm each other. > > The basic situations we'd need to cover are: > > a) I am harmed by someone - a pledge to speak up, either to the person > directly or to someone else in the community > b) someone is harmed by me - a pledge to review my behavior and take > appropriate action (apologize, or explain why I feel the behavior is > justified) > c) someone is harmed by someone else - a pledge to be willing to listen to > both parties, and form our opinions of the situation in light of the > statement of belief > > Do you all think something like this would work for the whole community? > > > -Ian > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Rochkind > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:25 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Group Decision Making (was Zoia) > > > The best way, in my mind, > is to somehow create a culture where someone can say: "you know, I'm not ok > with that kind of remark" and the person spoken to can respond "OK, I'll > think about that." > > I think that's a really good to try to create, Karen says it just right. > Note that "OK, I'll think about it" is neither "No, you must be mistaken" > nor "Okay, I will immediately do whatever you ask of me." But it does need > to be a legitimate actual "I'll think about it", seriously. > > The flip side is that the culture is also one where when someone says "you > know, I'm not ok with that kind of remark", it often means "And I'd like > you > to think about that, in a real serious way" rather than "And I expect you > to > immediately change your behavior to acede to my demands." > > Of course, what creates that, from both ends, is a culture of trust. Which > I think code4lib actually has pretty a pretty decent dose of already, let's > try to keep it that way. (In my opinion, one way we keep it that way is by > continuing to resist becoming a formal rules-based bueurocratic > organization, rather than a community based on social ties and good faith). > > Now, at some times it might really be neccesary to say "And I expect you to > immediately stop what you're doing and do it exactly like I say." Other > times it's not. But in our society as a whole, we are so trained to think > that everything must be rules-based rather than based on good faith trust > between people who care about each other, that we're likely to asume that > "you know, i'm not ok with that remark" ALWAYS implies "And therefore I > think you are an awful person, and your only hope of no longer being an > awful person is to immediately do exactly what I say." Rather than "And I > expect you to think about this seriously, and maybe get back to me on what > you think." So if you do mean the second one when saying "you know, i'm > not > ok with that remark", it can be helpful to say so, to elicit the > self-reflection you want, rather than defensiveness. And of course, on the > flip-side, it is obviously
Re: [CODE4LIB] Groupon: $9 for 3-Day CTA Pass
It says "Allow up to 3 weeks for delivery of CTA Pass." This is better if you are going to ALA over the summer, or something else more in the future. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Carmen Mitchell wrote: > For the folks going to Chicago this year...This is a great deal. > > $9 for a 3-Day Pass from the Chicago Transit Authority ($20 Value) > > http://www.groupon.com/deals/chicago-transit-authority-cta-3?utm_campaign=UserReferral_dp&utm_medium=email&utm_source=uu83298 > > -Carmen >
[CODE4LIB] Request for recommendation on good tutorials of overview of Dreamweaver CS6
Web4Lib, As of this week, I have access to Dreamweaver CS6. I am looking for good tutorials to learn how Dreamweaver handles a site structurally. I have a lot of background in websites, and am comfortable hand coding something simple without any reference tools. What I want to learn with Dreamweaver is not simple common editing tasks - so not updating content. Instead, I want to learn structural things about site-wide management and especially moving between html and css, and seeing cues about the css while I am editing html. Bonus if it has tips on using Dreamweaver with php. What is a good resource to quickly learn the interface for Dreamweaver CS6? I want stuctural tips. I do not want a hit list of making a new file, embedding videos, making fonts bold, and other simple things that I can quickly use a search engine to find. -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2013 location
It takes about 15 minutes to walk a mile. It's really not that far for people without health problems that affect mobility. In most cases, driving, then parking will take more time than walking to cover such a short distance. Just saying... -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Bill Dueber wrote: > Because it seems like it might be useful, I've started a publicly-editable > google map at > > http://goo.gl/maps/LWqay > > Right now, it has two points: the hotel and the conference location. Please > add stuff as appropriate if the urge strikes you. > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 06:41:26PM -0500, Cynthia Ng wrote: > > > I'm sorry, but that doesn't actually clear up anything for me. The > > > location on the layrd page just says Chicago. So, is the conference > > > still happening at UIC? Since the conference hotel isn't super close, > > > does that mean there will be transportation provided? > > > > The entire conference and pre-conference is at UIC. The Forum is a > > revenue generating part of UIC. The pre-conference will be at the > > University Libraries on Monday with the exception of the Drupal one. > > > > The hotel is a mile or thereabouts from UIC Forum. Here is the problem > > with us natives planning. It never crossed our minds that walking a mile > > while on the *upper limit* of our shuttling to and from work is not the > > norm for everyone. This was brought to our attention and we will have a > > shuttle from the Hotel to the Conference venue. > > > > > > > > While we're on the subject, are the pre-conferences happening at the > > > same location? > > > > > > See above. > > > > ./fxk > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Francis Kayiwa > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:41:54AM -0800, Erik Hetzner wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> Apparently code4lib 2013 is going to be held at the UIC Forum > > > >> > > > >> http://www.uic.edu/depts/uicforum/ > > > >> > > > >> I assumed it would be at the conference hotel. This is just a note > so > > > >> that others do not make the same assumption, since nowhere in the > > > >> information about the conference is the location made clear. > > > >> > > > >> Since the conference hotel is 1 mile from the venue, I assume > > > >> transportation will be available. > > > > > > > > That's a good assumption to make. As to the confusion I said to you > > > > when you asked me about this a couple of days ago. > > > > > > > > http://www.uic.edu/~kayiwa/code4lib.html was supposed to be our > > > > proposal. If you look at the document it also suggests that we were > > > > going to have the conference registration staggered by timezones. We > > > > have elected not to update that because as that was our proposal. > When > > > > preparing our proposal we borrowed heavily from Yale's and IU's > > proposal > > > > and if someone would like to steal from us I think it is fair to > leave > > > > that as is. > > > > > > > > If you want the conference page use the lanyrd.com link below. I > can't > > > > even take credit for doing that. All of that goes to @pberry > > > > > > > > http://lanyrd.com/2013/c4l13/ > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > ./fxk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> best, Erik Hetzner > > > > > > > >> Sent from my free software system <http://fsf.org/>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Speed is subsittute fo accurancy. > > > > > > > -- > > Speed is subsittute fo accurancy. > > > > > > -- > Bill Dueber > Library Systems Programmer > University of Michigan Library >
Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib.org domain
Pay for it shouldn't be an issue. It's like $10 a year to register the domain, right? So, don't make a big deal out of OSU paying for it. The fee is negligible. The key concern is how committed to OSU is Ryan Ordway, and what's the climate there like. I see this as transferring to the people who are currently technical contacts at OSU, not to a faceless organization. If they already hold several other URLs, and have a policy and timeframe for tracking and renewing these then that's a plus. Also, I asked before, and I'm going to ask again, will the domain stop working (so stop pointing at nameservers) during the redemption period? If so, then a worst case scenario is not too bad, because there will be some warning and a late fee assuming the registered owner can be contacted, rather than just loosing the domain if the bill isn't paid. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > I definitely see what you're saying, but think there are pro's and con's > both ways. > > OSU is already responsible for the bulk of our infrastructure too, adding > the DNS would be minor. > > But there are definitely pro's (as well as con's) to individual and/or > non-institutional ownership/responsibility/**management, compared to > institutional. > > In the end, as with much Code4Lib, as with much volunteer projects -- what > it comes down to is who's offering to volunteer to do it. OSU is offering > to volunteer to do it (and pay for it, apparently?), and we obviously find > OSU to be generally responsible, since they host the rest of our > infrastructure. > > Someone offering to do it right now, someone we find generally responsible > -- always beats the hypothetical other solution that has nobody actually > volunteering to do it. > > So, Wilhelmina, are you volunteering to run the DNS instead? :) (and pay > for it, or fundraise to pay for it) If you are, then we might have two > options. Otherwise, we've got one, and no reason to reject it unless we > thought OSU was not trustworthy with the responsibility or something (which > if we did, would be a big problem, since they already responsible for a lot > more than that). > > > On 12/18/2012 4:34 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke wrote: > >> I'm for individual ownership and management over organizational. >> Organizations tend to not have written documentation, and to rely on >> institutional memory. I see two things going wrong: Contact at OSU >> leaves >> OSU and no one thinks to renew domain, or OSU doesn't have a dedicated >> contact and at some point they don't renew because they don't see the >> value. >> >> Also important: OSU is on state funding cycles, so may have some rule >> against renewing for more than a year at a time. So, the deadline to >> renew >> will come more frequently than it would with unrestricted funds and the >> ability to renew for 5 or 10 years at a time. >> >> When the domain expires, it will go into a redemption period of about a >> month. I remember what the whois record looks like for domains in the >> redemption period, and whois does give the contact information. Does the >> URL stop working during this period? If so, then that's great because if >> there is a problem with a renewal then many people will notice the URL not >> working, and be able to check the status of the domain and get on it. >> >> -Wilhelmina Randtke >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Ed Summers wrote: >> >> HI all, >>> >>> I've owned the code4lib.org since 2005 and have been thinking it might >>> be wise for to transfer ownership of it to someone else. Sometimes I >>> forget to pay bills, and miss emails, and it seems like the domain >>> means something to a larger group of people. >>> >>> With Ryan Ordway's help Oregon State University indicated they would >>> be willing to take over administration of the domain. They also have >>> been responsible for running the Drupal instance at code4lib.org and >>> the Mediawiki instance at wiki.code4lib.org -- so it seems like a >>> logical move. >>> >>> But I thought I would bring it up here first in the interests of >>> transparency, community building and whatnot, to see if there were any >>> objections or ideas. >>> >>> //Ed >>> >>> >> >>
Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib.org domain
I'm for individual ownership and management over organizational. Organizations tend to not have written documentation, and to rely on institutional memory. I see two things going wrong: Contact at OSU leaves OSU and no one thinks to renew domain, or OSU doesn't have a dedicated contact and at some point they don't renew because they don't see the value. Also important: OSU is on state funding cycles, so may have some rule against renewing for more than a year at a time. So, the deadline to renew will come more frequently than it would with unrestricted funds and the ability to renew for 5 or 10 years at a time. When the domain expires, it will go into a redemption period of about a month. I remember what the whois record looks like for domains in the redemption period, and whois does give the contact information. Does the URL stop working during this period? If so, then that's great because if there is a problem with a renewal then many people will notice the URL not working, and be able to check the status of the domain and get on it. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Ed Summers wrote: > HI all, > > I've owned the code4lib.org since 2005 and have been thinking it might > be wise for to transfer ownership of it to someone else. Sometimes I > forget to pay bills, and miss emails, and it seems like the domain > means something to a larger group of people. > > With Ryan Ordway's help Oregon State University indicated they would > be willing to take over administration of the domain. They also have > been responsible for running the Drupal instance at code4lib.org and > the Mediawiki instance at wiki.code4lib.org -- so it seems like a > logical move. > > But I thought I would bring it up here first in the interests of > transparency, community building and whatnot, to see if there were any > objections or ideas. > > //Ed >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Flying trapeze question
Speaking from experience, everything, everything in circus hurts. When I was doing it, and I did whimpy things, I remember wearing a tank top once, and others around me being horrified by the size and quantity of bruises on my torso. I have seen more skinned necks and knee pits than I can count from Chinese pole and trapeze. Blood stains on circus rigging are normal. Here are some less painful circus acts: Cloud swing has some cool looking tricks that do not hurt so much. This is where a thick rope hangs from the cieling in a wide U shape, and you sit on it like you would a swing set, and get it swinging like a swing set. Then you can lie down on it, stand on it, wrap your feet around it and hang upside down, etc. If anyone offers lessons in this, then this is the best air act for you to try. Happily, falling into a net does not hurt. What hurts in air acts is being stretched when you hang, and skinning or bruising body parts on rigging. The least painful circus act, to my knowledge, is bicycle tricks like 5 people on a bike at the same time. As long as you do things where you climb on and off the moving bike in sync with someone else to balance the weight, and do not climb onto the shoulders of the bike rider, or anyone else, this is painless and feels safe. Some things that look hard, like wrapping a leg around the bike rider, grabbing you knee with your elbow, and straightening your other arm and leg so that you stick out and are worn like a belt, are much easier than they look. Bicycle tricks are also more about timing than strength, although you can do more if you have a strong core and are flexible. Sadly, more impressive bike tricks also hurt more, and you have to practice with a partner who will balance your weight as you move around the bike. You also need someone to ride the bike around while you do tricks, and the experience will be intensely painful for that person. Contact juggling can be pain free. The kind where you roll a ball around on your hands, and devil sticks are painless learn and do. Poi is possible, even with no eyesight, but learning poi involves repeatedly hitting yourself. It is probably more painful for men to learn than women (men should wear a cup while learning). Ball juggling is more about timing, and all the catches are close to you. Ball juggling is not painful, as long as you juggle light weight things. Hand balancing can be painless, and generally you are low to the ground. You have to be althetic to have any height to fall from. Sadly, the tricks that look really good are harder tricks that require more strength and flexibility. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: > Rosalyn, > > Since others may be in similar circumstances, I thought I'd ask this on > the list: > > The idea of flying is intriguing... > > > however > > > due to my age (63), my eyesight (abysmal), and my intense vertigo (my mind > thinks changing an overhead light bulb is a life-threatening act), is there > something fun that can be done low to the ground and clumsily? Like maybe > jumping into the net from the second rung of the ladder? Because I'd love > to try something like that. > > Thanks, > kc > > -- > Karen Coyle > kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Question abt the code4libwomen idea
MJ Ray, OK, ctrl+F did not work, because the email said "for just" but you said "just for". Actually, no two words in your quote were in sequence in the email you tried to quote. So much for ctrl+F. Casual discrimination against women and disabled doesn't mean you get a pass to say none of this matters. Interacting specifically with other people who have to live your issues and don't just look at them intellectually (this interaction is what the women here are trying to do) is not quite the same as denying that other people face issues (what both of us have experienced at some point). If it helps, I use Webbie and Thunder to audio browse websites I work on, because then I am more likely to notice glaringly obvious things like the recaptcha. But, yeah, going into pretty much any subscription database with only audio from a screen reader is a lost cause. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:30 PM, MJ Ray wrote: > Wilhelmina Randtke asked: > > When you say someone referred to "a group just for women", did you mean > > when Bohyun Kim said "interests in a space for women"? > > > > Because if you did, then you should not have used quotes, since you were > > not quoting. If that language you don't like came from somewhere else, > > then please be more specific, because I didn't see it at the start of > this > > thread that I'm emailing on. > > That language is in the second paragraph of the email dated Fri, 7 Dec > 2012 16:13:47 + from Bohyun Kim, but I apologise for having put > the a in the quote marks. It should have been outside them, as I cut > part of "a small support and discussion group for just women". I > guess I hit the editing keys badly on Friday. > > It's very disappointing that no-one else seems willing to challenge > that behaviour and so many are actively supporting it. I feel like > we're still in the dark ages. Two wrongs do not make a right and two > discriminations - one unconscious and one conscious - does not make > equality. > > Joshua Gomez suggested: > > [...] And I don't think that reverse discrimination is the true > > concern of most of those that have voiced opinions against a > > sub-community for women (at least I hope not). > > I don't think that suggesting everyone who disagrees with one's view > is insincere or dishonest or something is a good idea. > > Personally, my concern isn't that it is reverse discrimination - it's > that it is still discrimination. I don't feel that past sins excuse > further ones. > > > [...] And since I am not a member of the group that has been > > discriminated against I don't think I or anyone else not in that group > > should try to dissuade them from doing what is in their best interest. > > I am not a member of *that* group that has been discriminated against, > but I am a member of one minority that is routinely discriminated > against in a pretty direct way - code4lib's wiki suggests we are not > human, as I mentioned in another mail on Friday: > https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1212&L=CODE4LIB&D=0&P=167926 > - and I am not dissuading women from doing what is in their best > interest, but I believe setting up another discriminatory group is not > in anyone's best interests. The best thing would be to do similar as > we do for accessibility and have mixed groups like fixtheweb.net > working together to dismantle the barriers. > > Regards, > -- > MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. > http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. > In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html > Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/ >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Question abt the code4libwomen idea
MJ Ray, When you say someone referred to "a group just for women", did you mean when Bohyun Kim said "interests in a space for women"? Because if you did, then you should not have used quotes, since you were not quoting. If that language you don't like came from somewhere else, then please be more specific, because I didn't see it at the start of this thread that I'm emailing on. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM, MJ Ray wrote: > Karen Coyle > > [...] If it's successful, it's successful. If not, it'll fade away > > like so many start-up groups. > > > > I'm astonished at the resistance to the formation of a group on the part > > of people who also insist that there are no rules about forming groups. > > I don't recall that any other proposal to set up a group has met this > > kind of resistance. [...] > > Well, will code4lib tolerate that discrimination? > > Is the discriminatory language used in the start of this thread > appropriate for code4lib? > > The thread opener does not describe an equality campaign. It > described "a group for just women" and seemed to claim > "gender-specific issues won't be addressed" by any group other than > women-only. > > It feels like code4lib may be giving up and that the anti-harrassment > policy is junk before it's given a reasonable go. > > Of course, setting up discriminatory spaces isn't harassment directly, > so is on the fringe of the anti-harrassment policy. Is there a > code4lib equality policy? Could we agree that everyone should able to > use all of code4lib "without distinction[...] such as race, colour, > sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or > social origin, property, birth or other status"? (Quote from UDHR) >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels
At the end of this email, is the current default homepage of Reddit at this very moment. I only had to read down to the current 6th most popular post - 6th most popular of the ENTIRE REDDIT SITE - which is a man's reference to seeing a highschool classmate on Girls Gone Wild, then masturbating such that one arm becomes much bigger than the other (person posted a picture of Quagmire from Family Guy with one big arm). I'm sure the front page will have changed by the time you read this, but just read down and find the example of the moment. There will be one. Women as sex objects isn't a fringe thing on Reddit. It's a core part of the service. Reddit's got lots of porn forums, with 5 digits of users. Sexual images of women is not a fringe activity on Reddit. It's a core service. Racism is also prevalent. For example, http://www.reddit.com/r/niggers/ . At least there are only 4 digits of users, so dedicated racist forums is a fringe activity. But, why is there a dedicated forum at all? It's inappropriate to try and move drafting of an antidiscrimination policy to Reddit, alongside forums which are so hateful to the groups which are underrepresented in Code4Lib. -Wilhelmina Randtke Begin Clip of Current default Front page of Reddit --- Item number 6 refers to masturbating over a female high school classmate - 1 2572 Taiwan engineers defeat limits of flash memory<http://phys.org/news/2012-12-taiwan-defeat-limits-memory.html> (phys.org <http://www.reddit.com/domain/phys.org/>) submitted 4 hours ago by Maslo55 <http://www.reddit.com/user/Maslo55> to technology <http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/> - 565 comments<http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/145h0c/taiwan_engineers_defeat_limits_of_flash_memory/> - share <http://www.reddit.com/#> 2 2503 I'm not sure how to title this <http://i.imgur.com/kZBrW.png> ( i.imgur.com <http://www.reddit.com/domain/i.imgur.com/>) submitted 3 hours ago by wow050 <http://www.reddit.com/user/wow050> to WTF<http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/> - 343 comments<http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/145imx/im_not_sure_how_to_title_this/> - share <http://www.reddit.com/#> 3 1768 <http://i.imgur.com/isC9k.jpg> On a metro bus <http://i.imgur.com/isC9k.jpg> (i.imgur.com<http://www.reddit.com/domain/i.imgur.com/> ) submitted 3 hours ago by jjameson18 <http://www.reddit.com/user/jjameson18>to atheism <http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/> - 251 comments<http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/145ktv/on_a_metro_bus/> - share <http://www.reddit.com/#> 4 1828 <http://imgur.com/E4KYV> Back in my day we had to work for our games <http://imgur.com/E4KYV> ( imgur.com <http://www.reddit.com/domain/imgur.com/>) submitted 4 hours ago by MouthFullOfPubes<http://www.reddit.com/user/MouthFullOfPubes>to gaming <http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/> - 166 comments<http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/145h3h/back_in_my_day_we_had_to_work_for_our_games/> - share <http://www.reddit.com/#> 5 1950 <http://qkme.me/3s09n5?id=228440273> When ever I have to get up and mow the lawn<http://qkme.me/3s09n5?id=228440273> (qkme.me <http://www.reddit.com/domain/qkme.me/>) submitted 4 hours ago by flabeachbum<http://www.reddit.com/user/flabeachbum>to AdviceAnimals <http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/> - 200 comments<http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/145har/when_ever_i_have_to_get_up_and_mow_the_lawn/> - share <http://www.reddit.com/#> 6 1657 After finding my old highschool crush on /r/gonewild last night... This is exactly how I'm felling this morning. <http://i.imgur.com/Tz3uE.jpg> ( i.imgur.com <http://www.reddit.com/domain/i.imgur.com/>) submitted 5 hours ago by DaPolishFarmer<http://www.reddit.com/user/DaPolishFarmer>to funny <http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/> - 475 comments<http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/145fvw/after_finding_my_old_highschool_crush_on/> - share <http://www.reddit.com/#> --End Reddit clip--- On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: > *sigh* From an article about sexual harassment on reddit: > > "Reddit is a notoriously male-dominated forum. According to Google's > DoubleClick Ad Planner, Reddit users in the U.S. <https://www.google.com/* > *adplanner/site_profile#**siteDetails?uid=domain%253A%** > 2520Reddit.com&geo=001&lp=**false<https://www.google.com/adplanner/site_profile#siteDetails?uid=domain%253A%2520Reddit.com&geo=001&lp=false>> > are 72 percent male. Reddit subgroups include r/mensrights and the > misogynistic r/chokeabitch, perhaps in part prompting another popular > thread that asked recently, "Why is
Re: [CODE4LIB] anti-harassment policy for code4lib?
" it may help to pick a random sample of the incidents and consider whether the anti-harassment policy for code4lib would deal with it." This is a good idea. Often, short policies will have the short formal language up front, and then a comments section which isn't part of the policy, but explains how to apply it. The comments section will have examples and explanations, which helps go check check check and apply the policy. Also, running use cases against a policy will show if the policy does what's intended without doing unintended harm. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:06 AM, MJ Ray wrote: > Wilhelmina Randtke > > I think maybe in librarianship in general, there is some trying to turn > > this around and use the same sexist advertising, but marginalize men > > instead. > > I think this is a problem in society in general, not just > librarianship or technologists: aiming for some improbable perfect > balance of discrimination in all directions and misunderstanding that > as equality. Such false friends are often uncovered when they suggest > that if anyone doesn't like their Gay/Black/whatever Scholarship or > Mentorship or whatever restorative scheme, those people should start > or make another scheme for Non-gays/Non-blacks/Non-whatevers. > > So I'm disappointed but unsurprised to hear of male strippers at > events. Like Karen Coyle, I'd love to know if anyone objected and > what happened next. > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:54 AM, James Stuart >wrote: > > > This list is imperfect (I know several public incidents that aren't on > here > > > (recent DEFCON years aren't listed, The Amazing Meeting/ElevatorGate > and > > > various other skeptic convention incidents aren't on (possibly by > > > design))), but it's at least a start, and hopefully a picture that > sexism > > > is an endemic, systematic problem right now in the geek convention > world. > > > http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents > > Quite right it's imperfect! It's correlated with time, money and > maybe an increasing number of smaller conferences with new, > inexperienced organisers... I don't think the number of incidents > is particularly informative, either: we'd be unhappy with one, no? > So it may help to pick a random sample of the incidents and consider > whether the anti-harassment policy for code4lib would deal with it. > > Moreover, I reject that we should place too much weight on that > "resource for and about women". It has some interesting links, but a > site with a "Resources for men" ghetto is not promoting equality well. > > Regards, > -- > MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. > http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. > In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html > Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/ >
Re: [CODE4LIB] What is a "coder"? / Coursera fork
MOOC study groups is a great idea. I've dropped off on the MOOCs I tried, largely bc they cut into my social life. Social life doesn't have to be all in person and face to face, but traditional university has a huge social component. Education without classmates is not going to result in the same increase in opportunities that education with classmates will. My first legit legal work right out of lawschool was referrals from a classmate. He'd failed the bar. I'd passed. He was offerred to close out cases for someone who was relocating and needed a point person in town, but didn't have the necessary license. So, he referred the work to me. It's hard to know which is more important: Classmates or education. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Dec 1, 2012 10:42 AM, "Timothy A. Lepczyk" wrote: > It could be cool to have like code4lib MOOC study groups. Like if there are > people taking the same courses and they have a loose affiliation with one > another through C4L that could be a much better starting point than > randomly trying to meet people. > > * > * > * > > Timothy A. Lepczyk* > Digital Humanities & Pedagogy Fellow > Hendrix College > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Ross Singer > wrote: > > > I started taking the "Functional Programming in Scala" course offered a > > couple of months ago, but it was an enormous time commitment. I had a > > week-long trip to the office (in the UK - my job is a long and confusing > > story) which got me so far behind (two weeks, the way the lessons ran), > > that I would have had no hope of catching up (with, like Shaun, a > full-time > > job and two young children), so I had to drop out after about 3 or 4 > weeks. > > > > I'm sort of conflicted about this. I understand Coursera's problem: > > courses can't be too simple, or else there's no legitimacy. But at the > same > > time, every course can't be a weeder course, either. I legitimately spent > > *way* more time per week on this course than I did on *any* course in > > college (at least not this much effort /every week/), but at the end of > the > > day, the amount of any practical knowledge I was gaining from the course > > was being far overwhelmed by things I actually needed to be learning > > immediately for my job and general obligations to my life and family. > > > > Maybe I just chose the wrong class, but Coursera's curriculum seems > pretty > > terrible for professional development. It's great, however, if you have > > time to be a full-time student. > > > > -Ross. > > > > On Nov 30, 2012, at 4:32 PM, "Donahue, Amy" wrote: > > > > > Another little quick comment, adding to the chorus of lurkers and > people > > who aren't sure if they're coders. Someday I hope to get to a code4lib > > conference (if only to tell people in person I knew Jonathan Rochkind way > > back when), but in the meantime I've been on this list on and off (but > > mostly on) since I graduated, and it's been nothing but a wonderful > > resource, and a place I know I can always turn for that time when I have > a > > tech question. > > > > > > But I wanted to point out a possible resource for those of us who > aren't > > sure of what we know and who want to know more. Coursera has been on my > > radar through multiple channels, but not yet on here. It appears they do > > have some basic programming courses, as well as theory. I'm curious to > > know if anyone has taken any of these, or has any thoughts on this method > > of learning... https://www.coursera.org/category/cs-programming > > > > > > Amy > > > --- > > > Amy Donahue, MLIS, AHIP > > > 414.955.8326 > > > User Education/Reference Librarian > > > Medical College of Wisconsin Libraries - Link. Learn. Lead. > > > http://www.mcw.edu/mcwlibraries.htm > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > Of > > Bess Sadler > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:07 PM > > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] What is a "coder"? > > > > > > On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson > > wrote: > > > > > >> If this were "training" in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on > > the exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since > it's > > a "conference," it&#x
Re: [CODE4LIB] tech vs. nursing
At my alma mater, Florida State University, the average starting salary for female grads was $39K while for male grads it was $57K http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2012/10/placements-and-salaries/2012-survey/explore-all-the-data/ The male graduates for the 2011 made 150% as much as the female graduates. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: > "Pay inequity also exists within librarianship. The Association of > Research Libraries, in its Annual Salary Survey > 2005-6, reported that the average salary for male academic librarians in > member libraries was $63,984, while > the average for female academic librarians was $61,083.5 > > Library Journal reported that new library school graduates finally crossed > the $40,000 mark as an average salary, > but the gender split had women below that point with $39,587 and men at > $42,143." > > And there's more if you go through the literature. > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels
Could we take a moment to stop and Google "sexist github" then stop and Google "sexist reddit". "Sexist github" will bring up discussions on how to deal with sexism. It won't bring up pages and reams of blatant examples of sexism. "Sexist reddit" will bring up a lot of really blatant sexism and sexual imagery directed at women. Even if you are in a subthread that isn't like that, the general community is probably not what you should be aiming for. If you shouldn't be aiming for it, then don't. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Aaron Collier wrote: > +1 Thanks for getting the sub-reddit started. I'm happy to see that as I > agree with the format of discussion. I find it much easier to archive full > discussions that I find there vs. the jumble of a multitude of email > messages. > > > > Aaron Collier > Library Academic Systems Analyst > California State University, Fresno - Henry Madden Library > 559.278.2945 > acoll...@csufresno.edu > http://www.csufresno.edu/library > > - Original Message - > From: "Shaun Ellis" > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:51:23 AM > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels > > Mark and Karen, yes, the DIY and take-initiative ethos of Code4Lib leads > to a lot of channels. I think this is a good thing as each has its > strengths. But it creates chaos without more clarity on what platforms > are best for certain types of communication? > > We have similar issues when it comes to our own internal documentation > attempts at Princeton. Wiki? Git? Git Wiki? IRC? Blogosphere? Reddit? > Listserv? Twitter? Why should I use any of them?!? > > I will say that I like Reddit for potentially controversial or > philosophical discussions. It's built to keep the conversation on track > and reward the most insightful/best comments with more visibility. > > So, anyway, I've posted this discussion on the subreddit: > > http://www.reddit.com/r/code4lib/comments/1426fn/the_diy_and_takeinitiative_ethos_of_code4lib/ > > I also added a post on mentorship to the subreddit, since I'm > particularly interested in that. Karen, while I think your comments on > "promotion" and "giving credit" are important, I'm not sure how they are > related to mentorship. Would love to hear more about that in the subreddit. > > -Shaun > > On 11/30/12 12:30 PM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: > >> Wow. We could not have gotten a better follow-up to our long thread > about > >> coders and non-coders. > >> > >> I don't git. I've used it to read code, but never contributed. I even > >> downloaded a gui with a cute icon that is supposed to make it easy, and > it > >> still is going to take some learning. > >> > >> So I'm afraid that it either needs to be on a different platform for > >> editing, OR someone (you know, the famed "someone") is going to have to > do > >> updates for us non-gitters. > > > > Karen, I've added instructions about how to add contributions without > > knowing Git to the README file: > > https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/blob/master/README.md > > > > If you'd like, I'm happy to have feedback as to changes here. A small > > handful of people have also asked if we could move this to another > > platform such as the Code4lib wiki. I'd be happy to get feedback if > > that would be a preferable option. > > > > Mark > > > > -- > Shaun D. Ellis > Digital Library Interface Developer > Firestone Library, Princeton University > voice: 609.258.1698 | sha...@princeton.edu >
Re: [CODE4LIB] anti-harassment policy for code4lib?
This is interesting. They actually had a male entertainer on stage in
velcro pants, then speedo and boots, at the WestLaw reception at
the American Association of Law Libraries annual meeting this year.
Apparently that's not uncommon for the WestLaw reception. At the North
American Serials Interest Group meeting, the mens room in the conference
area was closed and converted to a women's room for the duration of the
conference. So that's three national library conferences I went to this
past year, and two of them had a major anti-male sexist event. (ALA did
not have strippers, and provided male restrooms. Kudos!)
I think maybe in librarianship in general, there is some trying to turn
this around and use the same sexist advertising, but marginalize men
instead.
(Of course, if the crowd being boozed with male stripper on stage makes
significantly less money than the crowd accepting fliers from college girls
in skimpy clothes, then this may not be a loss for men. Fake poor people
culture is popular now with the hipsters, but no one wants poor people
culture, if it involves actually having less money.)
When you strike langauge about sexual imagery, you might should rethink
that. I get enough spam male ads about male genital enlargement, that I
suspect men would tend to be intimidated and feel excluded when male 6
packs are prominently displayed in areas where men are outnumbered.
Whether it's young women in underwear, or athletic men in underwear, could
we agree that it's inappropriate?
-Wilhelmina Randtke
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:54 AM, James Stuart wrote:
> As a preface, I fully support both of these changes in language.
>
> That said, I think it's both important to balance the idea that sure,
> sometimes people are idiots, with that sexism is a prevalent problem right
> now at geek conventions, and that it's more than a 'bad and/or drunk
> apples' problem.
>
> This list is imperfect (I know several public incidents that aren't on here
> (recent DEFCON years aren't listed, The Amazing Meeting/ElevatorGate and
> various other skeptic convention incidents aren't on (possibly by
> design))), but it's at least a start, and hopefully a picture that sexism
> is an endemic, systematic problem right now in the geek convention world.
>
> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents
>
> --James
>
> PS: I don't know what they are, but I kinda made myself hungry for some
> drunk apples right now.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:34 AM, MJ Ray wrote:
>
> > Esmé Cowles
> > > Also, I've seen a number of reports over the last few years of women
> > > who were harassed at predominately-male tech conferences. Taken
> > > together, they paint a picture of men (particularly drunken men)
> > > creating an atmosphere that makes a lot of people feel excluded and
> > > worry about being harassed or worse. So I think a positive
> > > statement of values, and the general raising of consciousness of
> > > these issues, is a good thing.
> >
> > I'm a member of software.coop, which helps write library software,
> > including Koha - we co-hosted KohaCon12 this summer. Like all co-ops,
> > our core values include equality. I would like to see an
> > anti-harassment policy for code4lib.
> >
> > However, I'm saddened that I seem to be the first to object to the
> > hand-waving ("number of reports") and prejudice in the above
> > paragraph. The above problems seem more likely to arise from being
> > drunk or being idiots than from being men. Please, let's treat all
> > groups with equal respect and reserve our ire for particular members
> > when they give us reason to do otherwise.
> >
> > The anti-harassment policy should not be developed from a "we need to
> > kick men into line" standpoint. As such, I suggest
> >
> >
> https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/blob/master/code_of_conduct.md
> > should say "Discriminatory language and imagery (including sexual)"
> > rather than leading with a special case of "Sexual".
> >
> > I also suggest generalising "religion" to "religious beliefs" to avoid
> > predictable attempts to insult some minorities and claim it's allowed
> > because they're not formal, organised or state-approved religions.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit
> co-op.
> > http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
> > In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
> > Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
> >
>
Re: [CODE4LIB] Diversity of presenters (was bibliotechy's fat fingers)
"Forum 12 [. . .] library type (76% academic? oh my)." Library type "academic" is probably going to dominate, because that's who gets travel funding. The most probable alternative might be "vendor", because they will get funding too. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Andromeda Yelton < andromeda.yel...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Ross Singer > wrote: > > > I would be interested to see the gender breakdown in the CfP for > > comparable conferences (LITA National, Access) and if Code4lib's numbers > > are noticeably lower, meeting with those groups to determine why. > > > > I would be happy to run the Forum 13 numbers after our CFP window closes in > the spring and engage in that sort of conversation. (I don't speak for the > committee as a whole, of course.) > > FYI, for Forum 12, the (non-keynote, non-poster-session) speakers were 41% > male, 56% female (small% I-couldn't-tell-from-names-or-find-photos). I > don't know about the ratio of proposers as I wasn't on that committee. I > don't know whether I feel good or bad about the 41/56 ratio -- I mean, it's > kinda even (yay!) but dramatically unrepresentative of librarianship as a > whole (boo!) > > I feel much twitchier when I break down the list by race (71% white, though > that's actually less than librarianship as a whole, yikes) or library type > (76% academic? oh my). I am *extremely confident* that library technology > use cases are not limited to white people in academic libraries. But if the > conversation is limited to those use cases, the technology actually > produced is likely to be as well. > > Andromeda >
Re: [CODE4LIB] How to configure subdomain hosting without domain hosting?
All the responses here were helpful! Based on responses, and doing this with a domain name I have registered with GoDaddy, I believe that the way to point a subdomain (and only a subdomain) at a cheapie hosted account is to make an NS record for each of the host's name servers to point the subdomain at the nameservers. (If you notice I'm wrong, then please correct me.) In case anyone else wants to file it for later use, I included step-by-step instructions for doing this when the URL is registered with and DNS is hosted on GoDaddy. If the DNS is done a different way, then you would look up how to make an NS record for that DNS. -Wilhelmina Randtke Step-by-step directions on setting a subdomain in GoDaddy to point to a cheapie hosting company. You will change the parts that are underlined to your own information. Log into GoDaddy To Access the Zone File Editor Click "My Account" in the top left corner. Next to Domain, click the green Launch button. From the Tools menu along the top of the screen, select DNS Manager Click Edit Zone for the domain name Scroll down to NS (nameserver) Click "Quick Add" For host, type the (*subdomain - not the full url, just the part before the first period; ie. lib*) For points to, type (*URL of first name server for cheapie hosting company*) Click "Quick Add" For host, type the (*subdomain - not the full url, just the part before the first period; ie. lib*) For points to, type (*URL of second name server for cheapie hosting company*) Click "Quick Add" For host, type the (*subdomain - not the full url, just the part before the first period; ie. lib*) For points to, type (*URL of third name server for cheapie hosting company*) On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Wilhelmina Randtke wrote: > I'm trying to get a subdomain of my university's domain pointed at content > on a cheapie hosting account. To do this, I can get main campus to put in > a CNAME record with the IP address matching where the DNS for my cheapie > hosting account is currently located in the cheapie hosting company's > system. The problem is, this IP will periodically change, meaning main > campus IT will have to be involved periodically down the line in order to > cut and paste the new IP into their system, and meaning that the hosted > services could go unavailable for a few days when this happens. > > The main campus uses GoDaddy's DNS which is set in stone, and the cheapie > hosting in question is Dreamhost but any other cheapie service would do. > > Am I doing this the hard way? *How would you go about getting a > subdomain of your university's URL to point at your cheapie webhosting > account? * > > Subdomain forwarding with masking then storing content at a random URL > but having it appear to be on the university's subdomain does not work, > because this causes problems responding to XML queries. > I am able to run a server in my office or the building with a static IP, > but I don't want content to live on an in-house server. Could I use this > to catch things coming to the IP, then redirect to the cheapie hosting > account? > Is there a way to go from GoDaddy's DNS management system to point at > the nameservers for the cheapie hosting company, the same way you would do > to host a domain? > > -Wilhelmina Randtke >
[CODE4LIB]
Even if women are 25% of STEM, women are way more in libraries. At the NASIG meeting this summer, they had the sheriff come in, check that the hotel men's restroom was clear, and then temporarily convert it to a women's room for the conference. Men at the library conference, had to go to the hotel lobby, not the conference part of the hotel. So, if a library oriented and coding oriented group has the same percentage of female participation as the STEM fields generally, then that's worse. The fields generally are pulling from the population generally, so from a 50/50 male female population. A coding group centered on libraries is pulling from a female-slanted population. Although... here I am throwing that out, without checking the male female ratio in libraries generally. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Laura B. Palumbo wrote: > As a soon to be librarian and a female engineer, I can tell you that your > numbers generally reflect the status of women in the STEM areas as a > whole. According to the Economics and Statistics Administration, women > hold less than 25% of tech jobs (2009). I think that you are right on > target in wondering how to attract more women into the techy end of > libraries; in addition to promoting STEM areas to young women, I feel that > a good place to start is to advocate for more integration of coding > (beyond basic web design) into required library courses. > > Laura > > > Rosalyn, > > > > If we are only 17% women, when we are subset of the broader Library > community, which is majority women, then we are doing something wrong. > And > > that deeper question, what do we need to do to encourage more women to > participate in the community, to make the community as a whole appealing > and safe, is the question I am really asking. > > > > Chad > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Rosalyn Metz > wrote: > > > >> I think first we would need to do a survey of how many women are in the > community. if it turns out that this community is only 17% women then > we're on target. who knows, maybe we're actually 10% women and we're > way > >> above target. in which case the real question might be "how do we get > more > >> women in tech." > >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Chad Nelson > wrote: > >> > Ooops. Hit the wrong key. > >> > > >> > So, about our presenters... > >> > > >> > Is it a problem that only 4 of our 33 presenters are women? Or that > >> only > >> 16 > >> > of 95 proposers were women? > >> > > >> > Is there something this community needs to do to encourage more women > >> to > >> > feel like they can and should speak / propose sessions? > >> > > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Gender Survey
Um, no. Anyone who takes the survey has to have gotten the incoming link from somewhere. This listserv is the most likely source. So, by your definition almost anyone with the URL for the survey is a community member. Self-defining as part of the community is about how people see their role. Otherwise the survey could just list all those things you said and ask if the person did them. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ross Singer wrote: > To second Rosy's point, if you are unsure if you are 'part of the > community' and you can answer yes to any of the following questions, you > absolutely can say 'yes' in the survey: > > You are on the CODE4LIB mailing list > You have attended a Code4Lib conference > You have submitted to a CfP to a Code4Lib conference > You tried to attend a Code4Lib conference but didn't register in time > You have a registered account on code4lib.org > You have a registered account on wiki.code4lib.org > You have submitted to or read the Code4lib journal > You follow planet.code4lib.org > You have been in the #code4lib IRC channel > > What I'm saying is that Code4Lib's "community" takes a lot of forms, don't > feel you need to be a regular in the IRC channel or something. > > -Ross. > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: > > > To our dear dear lurking friends, > > > > We would also like you to take the survey. I put the "Do you consider > > yourself a part of the Code4Lib community." question in the survey > because > > I wanted to make sure that people that were part of Code4Lib were > > separated from the random people that might take the survey -- like oh > say > > my mom (I'm not kidding, she would take the survey if she saw it). > > > > But then I was reminded that I once thought I wasn't part of the > community. > > I read the listserv all the time and then I decided to start a blog. And > > then I went to a conference where I gave a lightning talk. And now > Michael > > Klein is yelling at me to come back to the conference and IRC chat room. > > > > So now my hope for that question is that folks like you -- who think they > > are just a lurker -- will take the survey and respond no to the first > > question. Then maybe we can figure out a way to turn some of those nos > to > > yeses. > > > > :) > > A former lurker > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Rosalyn Metz > wrote: > > > >> Ok Folks, > >> > >> I'm starting off small. Let's do a quick survey of the community and > see > >> what the gender breakdown is. > >> > >> Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68G5TBG > >> > >> It should take 1 minute to fill out. It closes at the end of the day > >> Friday (midnight). I'll share the results here on Monday when we're all > >> back to work and can have a lively discussion about what they mean. > Expect > >> a chart (I like charts in addition to surveys). > >> > >> Rosalyn > >> > >> P.S. can someone share on the twitters? > >> >
[CODE4LIB] How to configure subdomain hosting without domain hosting?
I'm trying to get a subdomain of my university's domain pointed at content on a cheapie hosting account. To do this, I can get main campus to put in a CNAME record with the IP address matching where the DNS for my cheapie hosting account is currently located in the cheapie hosting company's system. The problem is, this IP will periodically change, meaning main campus IT will have to be involved periodically down the line in order to cut and paste the new IP into their system, and meaning that the hosted services could go unavailable for a few days when this happens. The main campus uses GoDaddy's DNS which is set in stone, and the cheapie hosting in question is Dreamhost but any other cheapie service would do. Am I doing this the hard way? *How would you go about getting a subdomain of your university's URL to point at your cheapie webhosting account? * Subdomain forwarding with masking then storing content at a random URL but having it appear to be on the university's subdomain does not work, because this causes problems responding to XML queries. I am able to run a server in my office or the building with a static IP, but I don't want content to live on an in-house server. Could I use this to catch things coming to the IP, then redirect to the cheapie hosting account? Is there a way to go from GoDaddy's DNS management system to point at the nameservers for the cheapie hosting company, the same way you would do to host a domain? -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] code4libTO December Meetup
What's "GTA"? -Wilhelmina Randtke On Nov 20, 2012 1:55 PM, "Cynthia Ng" wrote: > Hi All, > > In the GTA area? Tell me when you might be available for a c4l meetup > early December! > > http://doodle.com/s854uzz33ah3tpuy > > Vote now! > > Thanks, > Cynthia >
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconf ideas
HTML5 video seems better suited to a regular presentation slot than to a half-day workshop. I just don't think there is enough content there to fill the half day. It would have to be combined with something else (video editing? video delivery and usability? something else?). -Wilhelmina Randtke On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Shaun Ellis wrote: > Jason, > I think both ideas are excellent. > > As for the Ruby on Rails intro, the RailsBridge Curriculum mentions an > "install-fest" happening the night before. In the interest of time, I > would recommend distributing a VM with all the required software > pre-loaded. While part of programming involves setting up one's > environment, it will be more inspiring to get right to the "fun". > > -Shaun > > > On 11/8/12 10:12 AM, Jason Ronallo wrote: > >> I have a couple ideas for preconf sessions, but I am wondering whether >> anyone would be interested in them before further committing by posting >> one >> to the wiki. Would you be interested in attending or suggesting someone >> attend either of these? >> >> 1. An introduction to coding through Ruby and Rails. I'm looking at >> something like the RailsBridge Curriculum [1] as a quick, gentle >> introduction to getting started coding web applications. It seems that >> with >> the bigger venue that more folks may be attending that do not do coding in >> their regular job but may like to get started. Is there something like a >> basic training that the Code4Lib conference and community can do to bridge >> that gap and get more folks in libraries coding and having a better >> understanding what is involved in the work? Anyone else who would be >> interested in helping to lead this or help field questions and help folks >> work through problems? >> >> 2. An HTML5 Video workshop. I've pitched a talk on HTML5 Video that I'd >> really like to give, but wonder if there would be enough interest to do a >> 1/2 day workshop on the topic? It would allow time to do some hands-on >> work >> with the whole process of making video available this way. Anyone else >> with >> experience with video who would like to help put this together? >> >> Interest in either of these? Would you commit to attend one? Willing to >> help plan one? >> >> Jason >> >> >> [1] >> http://curriculum.railsbridge.**org/curriculum/curriculum<http://curriculum.railsbridge.org/curriculum/curriculum> >> >> > -- > Shaun D. Ellis > Digital Library Interface Developer > Firestone Library, Princeton University > voice: 609.258.1698 | sha...@princeton.edu >
Re: [CODE4LIB] one tool and/or resource that you recommend to newbie coders in a library?
The number one tool I think a newbie coder should get is a cheapie online webhosting account - like a $10 a month one - and multiple URLs. Multiple URLs will make them point a URL at a nameserver at least once ideally, and to understand that the two are separate and what you can do with domains and subdomains. The cheapie webhosting account will let them play with installing popular content management systems manually and with one-click installs. The most important thing is to break things and then rebuild them. The worst possible thing would be to build a website, leave it up as their public face or personal website, and be nervous to wreck it so not change or play with different CMSes (another reason multiple URLs might psychologically be better - they encourage experimentation on one and the person can make the other a static goal oriented publishing area). The more the cheapie hosting account experience I have, the more I know what's cheap and easy to do, and the more I see very specific benefits to a dedicated server. It makes me more intentional and able to better assess the value of services vendors provide. That's more web4lib ish, but ultimately if someone experiments enough they have to get comfortable with php. Scripting is the gateway drug. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Bohyun Kim wrote: > Hi all code4lib-bers, > > As coders and coding librarians, what is ONE tool and/or resource that you > recommend to newbie coders in a library (and why)? I promise I will create > and circulate the list and make it into a Code4Lib wiki page for collective > wisdom. =) > > Thanks in advance! > Bohyun > > --- > Bohyun Kim, MA, MSLIS > Digital Access Librarian > bohyun@fiu.edu > 305-348-1471 > Medical Library, College of Medicine > Florida International University > http://medlib.fiu.edu > http://medlib.fiu.edu/m (Mobile) >
Re: [CODE4LIB] one tool and/or resource that you recommend to newbie coders in a library?
Link juice for search engines! On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Bohyun Kim wrote: > Do you all really want a C4L wiki page that lists c4l and c4l journal on > top of recommended resources? > > I bet you do, but let's try some diversity, shall we? > > ~Bohyun > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Rochkind > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:57 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] one tool and/or resource that you recommend to > newbie coders in a library? > > http://journal.code4lib.org > > On 11/1/2012 4:24 PM, Bohyun Kim wrote: > > Hi all code4lib-bers, > > > > As coders and coding librarians, what is ONE tool and/or resource that > you recommend to newbie coders in a library (and why)? I promise I will > create and circulate the list and make it into a Code4Lib wiki page for > collective wisdom. =) > > > > Thanks in advance! > > Bohyun > > > > --- > > Bohyun Kim, MA, MSLIS > > Digital Access Librarian > > bohyun@fiu.edu > > 305-348-1471 > > Medical Library, College of Medicine > > Florida International University > > http://medlib.fiu.edu > > http://medlib.fiu.edu/m (Mobile) > > > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] PDF Compression
If you didn't optimize images before making the PDF, you can go into preflight and do things like go to grayscale, go to black and white, etc. And you can select which pages to do it on, so you knock down the resolution and color depth for text, but leave them high for images. OCR will store text on a separate layer, so if you flatten layers run OCR later. Also, in Acrobat Pro 9, if you do OCR as a batch processing function, then your staff time is nothing. You just leave the computer churning away for days or weeks and it can do all PDFs in folders and subfolders. So, start it on files before a long weekend, and come back to the project when you back log is processed. By the way, for long term archival purposes, you are better off loosing some quality in the PDFs, as a trade off for manageable filesize. If you compress, then uncompressing at a later date may be a problem. Uncompressing in the future should be a primary factor in selecting a compression program. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Oct 24, 2012 12:09 PM, "danielle plumer" wrote: > As you probably know, you can compress PDFs by compressing or flattening > the layers (most useful for born-digital materials, such as artwork) or by > applying a compression algorithm to the underlying images for PDFs > assembled from digitized images, which seems to be what you're doing. > Reducing the image size (pixels) and bit depth prior to assembling images > in a PDF (i.e., don't start with your 800ppi TIFF master) can have a > dramatic difference on the total size of the PDF. Beyond that, lossless and > lossy compression algorithms can reduce the size of the underlying image > files, with different techniques working well on different types of images. > IrfanView and Ghostscript can help with this. LZW is one of the more common > lossless compression algorithms for TIFF images. JPEG2000 also offers good > lossless compression. > > In addition to LuraTech, there's at least one other proprietary PDF > compression system, developed by SAFER Inc. (http://www.saferinc.com/). > Based > on a conversation with someone from the company about 18 months ago, they > use algorithms that do automatic edge detection and background detection, > applying compression non-uniformly to regions that appear to contain little > information. At the time of this conversation, they weren't able to give me > any white papers or peer-reviewed articles describing the algorithms used, > which made me hesitant about recommending the system for anything remotely > archival, though they claimed it was lossless. For use copies, though, the > software does work very well, and file size reduction is dramatic. I don't > know anything about pricing. LuraTech may use something similar in their > "Mixed Raster Content (MRC)" or "layered" compression. As far as I know, > IrfanView and ghostscript don't include algorithms to do anything similar. > > Danielle Cunniff Plumer > dcplumer associates > www.dcplumer.com > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > Of > > > Nathan Tallman > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:29 AM > > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > > Subject: [CODE4LIB] PDF Compression > > > > > > Can anyone recommend some good PDF compression software? Preferable > > > open-source or low-cost. We're scanning archival collections and the > PDFs > > > can be quite large for a single folder. The folder may be thick or > thin, > > > and contain a mix of text and images. We've fiddled with various > Acrobat > > > settings for getting the file size down, but we haven't found a good > > > balance between quality and file size. (Plus, these need to be OCR'ed; > so > > > far we've been doing that in Acrobat.) > > > > > > We were looking at LuraTech PDF Compressor, but the cost for an > > enterprise > > > license is pretty high. It did do an excellent job though. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Nathan > > > > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Are any facial recognition APIs available?
Hmmm... Lambdal wants my credit card information for me to be able to sign up for the free (low monthly use) facial recognition. Do you personally know that they are legit? -Wilhelmina On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > You might try: > > http://api.lambdal.com/ > > Supposedly its API is the same as the old Face.com one. I haven't used > it myself. > > Kevin > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Kam Woods wrote: > > Not an API per se, but OpenCV face tagging with Python! Here's an old > > and hacky example...I bet there are better ones out there now. > > > > > http://creatingwithcode.com/howto/face-detection-in-static-images-with-python/ > > > > Kam > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Wilhelmina Randtke > wrote: > >> I used face.com 's facial recognition API, when it was available, to > do a > >> project where I tagged some people in a set of photos and then it > suggested > >> who unidentified people might be. > >> > >> I want to do something similar for a digitization project, but face.comwas > >> bought by Facebook, so no more API for me. > >> > >> Does anyone here know of an available API for recognizing and tagging > faces > >> in photos? > >> > >> -Wilhelmina Randtke >
[CODE4LIB] Are any facial recognition APIs available?
I used face.com 's facial recognition API, when it was available, to do a project where I tagged some people in a set of photos and then it suggested who unidentified people might be. I want to do something similar for a digitization project, but face.com was bought by Facebook, so no more API for me. Does anyone here know of an available API for recognizing and tagging faces in photos? -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] It's all job postings!
Exactly, vote taken. Done. Preference was not even close. -Wilhelmina On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Carol Bean wrote: > No. > > Just no. Vote taken. Preferences noted. Done. > > Carol > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Graham Triggs wrote: > > > On 6 August 2012 13:19, Ed Summers wrote: > >> 150 people responded about whether jobs.code4lib.org posting should > >> come to the discussion list: > >> > >>yes: 132 > >>no: 10 > >>who cares: 8 > >> > >> 93% in support or agnostic seems to be a good indicator that the > >> postings should continue to come to the list for now. > > > > I'm not entirely convinced about that assessment. I quite readily > > agree that the jobs should be posted to *a* mailing list, I'm not so > > sure that it should be this mailing list. > > > > It's been discussed about filtering the jobs sent to the list, but I > > already filter the code4lib mailing list into a tag. It's been a bit > > of a faff, but I've subdivided the filtering so that I can get the > > messages sent from jobs@... to go to a different tag. But then Ed > > replied to one, so now it appears in both tags, and because I'm using > > Gmail, it takes the whole thread with it. > > > > So filtering really isn't a solution. > > > > Rather than just asking whether jobs should come to this mailing list, > > maybe we can ask whether a separate mailing list should be set up, > > specifically for jobs. The two mailing lists could be cross promoted > > (e.g. a standard footer), and people can choose whether they want or > > don't want to receive them. And we can still have > > discussions/follow-ups about those jobs on that mailing list. > > > > Even though the vast majority of the postings aren't applicable to me, > > I would probably still sign up to a separate jobs mailing list as it > > is of interest - but I would at least then be able to keep that > > separate from the main discussions, which is something I can't > > effectively do right now. > > > > G >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Archival Software
To my knowledge, Omeka has no way to assist you in monitoring for bitrot. Actually, I think only dSpace makes this easy - has a ready made module for running checksums on files and comparing to previous values so you can get a report of whether any files changed (ie. were corrupted). What platforms can do this, and what's the status on developing this in a variety of platforms? How are people doing this at your institutions? -Wilhelmina Randtke On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Kaile Zhu wrote: > How about Omeka? Need to consider the library standards because > eventually you will have to make your archival collection searchable. - > Kelly > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Lisa Gonzalez > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:38 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Archival Software > > Related to the CLIR Report, the wiki version is a little easier to > navigate: > > http://archivalsoftware.pbworks.com/w/page/13600254/FrontPage > > > Lisa Gonzalez > Electronic Resources Librarian > Catholic Theological Union > 5401 S. Cornell Ave. > Chicago, IL 60615 > 773-371-5463 > lgonza...@ctu.edu > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Nathan Tallman > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:00 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Archival Software > > As an archivist, this is still a very broad response. > > Are you looking to manage archival collections (accessioning, arrangement > and description, producing finding aids, etc.)? If so, Archivists Toolkit > or Archon may work for you. I'm not sure what you mean by university > historical information, perhaps ready-reference type guides? > There are a plethora of web options for this. Are you looking to manage > digital assets? Then a digital repository, such as Fedora or Dspace is in > order. > > Although it's a bit out of date at this point, you may want to look at > Lisa Spiro's 2009 report, "Archival Management Software" < > http://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/spiro/>. Also, check out Carol Bean's > blog, BeanWorks. She has a post about comparing digital asset managers < > http://beanworks.clbean.com/2010/05/creating-a-comparison-matrix/> (and > also has useful related links). > > Best, > Nathan > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Joselito Dela Cruz > wrote: > > > We are looking to centralize the university historical information and > > archives. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > > Of Matthew Sherman > > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:38 AM > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Archival Software > > > > I think you need to provide a little more context as to what you are > > trying to do. The trouble is that the term archive is used in a > > variety of different ways right now so we need to know what you mean > > to be able to give you the best suggestions. > > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Joselito Dela Cruz > > wrote: > > > > > Any suggestions for inexpensive & easy to use archival software? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Jay Dela Cruz, MLIS > > > Electronic Resources Librarian > > > Hodges University | 2655 Northbrooke Drive, Naples, FL 34119-7932 > > > (239) 598-6211 | (800) 466-8017 x 6211 | f. (239) 598-6250 > > > jdelac...@hodges.edu | www.hodges.edu > > > > > > > > **Bronze+Blue=Green** The University of Central Oklahoma is Bronze, Blue, > and Green! Please print this e-mail only if absolutely necessary! > > **CONFIDENTIALITY** This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain > confidential, proprietary and privileged information. Any unauthorized > disclosure or use of this information is prohibited. >
Re: [CODE4LIB] PDF manipulation
Yong, I would: (1) Take the text from the PDF, while keeping the text tied to the file name. (2) Work with the text to categorize the documents. (3) Sort the file names by where I wanted the files to go. (4) Then use the script to move files with the specified names to where I wanted them to go. This is assuming unique filenames since all files are in one folder at once. For a project I did using automated indexing for PDFs, I used A-PDF to Excel Extractor ( http://www.a-pdf.com/to-excel/download.htm ) to put the text of PDFs into Excel, then used Visual Basic in Excel to work the text. Some descriptions of that project are here http://fsulawrc.com/FACsearchengine.html and here http://www.randtke.com/presentations/NASIG.html . I didn't have coding background, so was limited to tools with a short learning curve. Your total number of files is important in making a strategy. I had 30,000 PDFs to index. If I had 500, then manually looking at each would probably have been more efficient. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Yong Tang wrote: > Hi, > > I am a full time information science student and a part time LAMP server > administrator. I was recently thrown into a file dumpster containing > hundreds of old PDF files. My job is to clearn the dumpster up by putting > right files into right folders. I am facing some difficulties when writing > a Perl script to get the job done. I would appreciate it if you could help. > > First of all, what tool /tools do you use to manipulate PDF file directly > in a script? I tried some Perl modules such as CAM::PDF and PDF::API2. The > results were not pretty. The original text format was lost. > > I am regret that I did not take a XML class last semester, for I just get > an intuition that the best way to do this job is to save the PDFs into > XMLs, and then work on the XMLs with script. Instead, I have to save the > PDFs into plain texts. I found PDFedit and Adobe Acrobat X Pro were good > because both of them kept original text format after the conversion. > However, I have no idea how to use them to save multiple PDFs into plain > texts at once. I googled for the answers but found no luck. Anybody knows > how to do it? > > I am new to text processing. Maybe I am heading in a wrong direction for > this project? Any input is appreciated. > > Yong Tang > A student >
[CODE4LIB] Dublin Core commonly required elements
My understanding of what elements are required to make a Dublin Core record are that none are required innately by the standard (all are optional), but that different federated search projects will require certain elements. Is there a good survey of federated search projects which will say which Dublin Core elements are mandatory for that federated search? -Wilhelmina Randtke
Re: [CODE4LIB] Putting several small databases online.
Strong argument for some kind of informal hosting or assistance with this type of thing done between the universities. -Wilhelmina On Jun 28, 2012 12:38 PM, "Matthew Zimmerman" wrote: > Aside from the technical considerations, just be sure you really want to > host these and can promise long term support. At a previous job we started > hosting databases and as each of us moved on to different institutions > there was no one left to maintain the dbs. I still get a call ever six > months or so from a professor at an institution I left four years ago when > she has a problem ;-) > > - Original Message - > > From: "Chad Benjamin Nelson" > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:41:21 AM > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Putting several small databases online. > > Hi Paul, > > If you're comfortable with php, which it sounds like you are, I'd > recommend the cakephp framework. It's lightweight and fairly easy to get > started with. The Tutorial provides a nice introduction to getting started > and quickly building a simple CRUD app like you are talking about. > > It doesn't come with as much built in as Drupal, but it does mean there is > a lot less to worry about and so you can get your barebones site up pretty > quickly. There are also quite a few plugins available to help you build up > a site quickly without writing too much custom code. > > Hope that helps, > > Chad > > Chad Nelson > Web Services Programmer > University Library > Georgia State University > > e: cnelso...@gsu.edu > t: 404 413 2771 > My Calendar > > > From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Tomas > Saorin [saorinto...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:33 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Putting several small databases online. > > Drupal and Views fit for your needings, and it may also work as a > framework for php-mysql apps. > > Enviado desde mi iPad > > El 27/06/2012, a las 14:03, "Richard, Joel M" escribió: > > > I agree with Clinton. Above all else, security is important and you want > something that handles credentials properly. Chances are, your sites are > getting "scanned" by potential hackers every day and you may not know it. > They don't try to hack in because of who you are, only because you are > there. > > > > I also second the idea of using Drupal to do this. It comes out of the > box with a lot of the features you listed, plus some. > > > > Besides, I'll bet you a pint of your favorite beer that once this data > is online, your users will want to do more with it. Having a flexible > foundation is not a bad thing. :) > > > > --Joel > > > > > > Joel Richard > > Lead Web Developer, Web Services Department > > Smithsonian Institution Libraries | http://library.si.edu/ > > (202) 633-1706 | richar...@si.edu > > > > > > On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Clinton Boyda wrote: > > > >> There are other methods of putting data online, like Google's > spreadsheet etc. > >> > >> I just wanted to point out, the "simplicity" of putting a small > database online can require a professional skill set. Security permissions > need to be set correctly, and a database is very rarely store on the same > server as a webpage because of these reasons. It might really be time to > call a programmer just so that all your project works as you expected :) > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Clinton Boyda > >> > >> Econolution Inc. > >> Helping Rural Communities Diversify, Grow & Prosper. > >> www.townlife.com Community Powered Websites! > >> > >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. > >> > >> Confidentiality: The information contained in this transmission is > privileged and confidential. It is intended only for the use of the > individuals or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to > review the following information or attachments, and that any > dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication please notify > supp...@townlife.com immediately. > >> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > Of > >>> Kevin Hawkins > >>> Sent: June 26, 2012 9:13 PM > >>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Putting several small databases online. > >>> > >>> If these are working databases used by just a handful of people, not > things > >>> you're trying to preserve for the long run, then for the FileMaker one > I would > >>> consider using FileMaker Pro's built-in "instant web publishing" > feature. More > >>> on this and other options are at: > >>> > >>> http://help.filemaker.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7466/~/publishing- > >>> databases-on-the-web-with-filemaker-pro-and-filemaker-server > >>> > >>> I believe MS Access has something similar for using MS SQL Server. > >>> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list
45 CFR 46.102(f)(2): (f) Human subject means a living individual about whom an investigator (whether professional or student) conducting research obtains (1) Data through intervention or interaction with the individual, or (2) Identifiable private information. [. . .] Private information includes information about behavior that occurs in a context in which an individual can reasonably expect that no observation or recording is taking place, and information which has been provided for specific purposes by an individual and which the individual can reasonably expect will not be made public (for example, a medical record). [. . .] Private information - this isn't stuff you go telling everyone. It's fine to review results of a FOIA request, or a set of publications, and try to make something of the authors' culture or views. The IRB has limited time. While not getting a required approval is a bad career move, it's also unethical to go to the IRB with things that aren't supposed to go there because then you are bogging down the approval process or distracting the IRB in the decisions it is supposed to make. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Joseph Montibello < joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu> wrote: > ++ > > Mark N's comments made me wonder, "what kinds of things *don't* require > IRB approval?" Here's a link to a page with the US's HHS department, > Office for Human Research Protections. > > http://1.usa.gov/OHRPchart > > Nice little flowchart / decision tree. Looks like Paul's particular bit of > research wouldn't require IRB approval. (import > standardLegalDisclaimer.notALawyer) > > Joe Montibello, MLIS > Library Systems Manager > Dartmouth College Library > 603.646.9394 > joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu > > > > > > > On 6/5/12 12:19 PM, "Notess, Mark H" wrote: > > >They are public: https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1206&L=CODE4LIB > > > >Have at it. > > > >While I fully support ethical research and even IRBs, we do everyone a > >disservice by appealing to IRBs to approve things that don't require their > >approval, even if we're just doing so to be "careful." It reminds me of > >the disservice we libraries sometimes do by asking for permission to use > >things when we could instead make a fair use argument. > > > >Best, > > > >Mark > > > >On 6/5/12 11:31 AM, "Jonathan Rochkind" wrote: > > > >>I think our list archives ought to be public, and ought ideally to be > >>available to anyone without even having to make an out of band request > >>to ELM. Are they not, can't you just download them from the web without > >>even having to ask? Either way, yes, anyone should be able to get the > >>archives to use them for whatever research they want. > >> > >>On 6/4/2012 4:54 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > >>> I personally don't have any objections to this, and in fact, would be > >>> interested to find out what you discover. Make sure you check with your > >>>IRB > >>> to see if they require anything (sometimes even an anonymous survey can > >>> require IRB approval) if you are considering publishing your results. > >>> > >>> Also, if you are concerned or interested about any potential ethical > >>> issues, you may want to check out the Assocation of Internet > >>>Researchers: > >>> http://aoir.org/ > >>> > >>> Edward > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> I'm interested in analyzing the list archives with a goal of studying > >>>>how > >>>> concepts move through the list over time, the relationship (or > >>>> non-relationship) between discussions in the list and eventual > >>>> implementations and practices in the broader library community, the > >>>> zeitgeist over time of an active development community, etc. I'm not > >>>>sure > >>>> about the tools and products at the moment, but the outcomes would be > >>>> anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of any kind, especially > >>>>and > >>>> specifically any commercial harvesting. An initial idea as an example > >>>>of > >>>> what I'm thinking about is to generate word clouds that could give a > >>>> snapshot of what's going on over some defined period
[CODE4LIB] What projects are using UIMA (Unstructured Information Management Architecture)?
Has anyone out there used Apache's UIMA (Unstructured Information Management Architecture) to index documents or in any other way? What I am interested in is knowing whether any libraries are using this, and how they are using it. Seeing any example projects would be great. I also want to know how difficult it was to implement, and get a feel for the quality of the metadata produced. Are there any library projects which maybe aren't using this, but which are using coding to index documents and create metadata? -Wilhelmina Randtke
