Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-09 Thread Edward Corrado

I guess I better do something quick to clean out this e-mail account
that is at 95.4% of quota. :-)

Edward

Roy Tennant said the following on 3/8/2007 11:04 PM:

Ed will probably kill me (and rightly so), but to facilitate email
submission of permission forms, I've added a link at the bottom of the
conference page (but above the file attachments) that if you click on it
will set up an email message to Ed that all you need to do is add your name
at the bottom and send. I think this should be sufficient. So let the spam
begin!
Roy


On 3/8/07 9:43 AM, Kevin S. Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and
attach it to an email)?

Thanks,
Kevin


On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form?


To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page:

http://code4lib.org/2007

That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks,
Roy




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The College of New Jersey
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-09 Thread Jeffrey Barnett

I wasn't even at the conference (sigh), but I'm surprised that no-one
has mentioned that *electronically* signed (encrypted) forms have been
formally recognized and legalized for some time (and typed text email
has not).  Surely one of the wizards in the group knows the mechanics of
the process (PKI).  I've used it too rarely to be an instructor myself.

Edward Corrado wrote:

Since I have all of the print ones from code4lib, it probably makes sense
to send them to me. However, I'll leave it up to someone else to determine
if electronic is sufficient.

Edward


And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and
attach it to an email)?

Thanks,
Kevin


On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form?

To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this
page:

http://code4lib.org/2007

That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear.
Thanks,
Roy

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-09 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Jeffrey Barnett wrote:

 I wasn't even at the conference (sigh), but I'm surprised that no-one
 has mentioned that *electronically* signed (encrypted) forms have been
 formally recognized and legalized for some time (and typed text email
 has not).  Surely one of the wizards in the group knows the mechanics of
 the process (PKI).  I've used it too rarely to be an instructor myself.

To the best of my knowledge, neither the Uniform Electronic Transactions
Act, nor the E-SIGN act require PKI.  (After all, the credit card
companies don't make you use PKI when you by something on the internet)

UETA:  (note, I don't think all states have this one, and some made
   modifications to it)
http://www.law.upenn.edu/bll/ulc/fnact99/1990s/ueta99.pdf

Section 2(8) :
Electronic signature means an electronic sound, symbol, or
process attached to or logically associated with a record and
executed or adopted by a person with the intent to sign the
record.

Section 2 Comment 7, last paragraph :
A digital signature using public key encryption technology would
qualify as an electronic signature, as would the mere inclusion of
one's name as a part of an e-mail message -- so long as in each
case the signer executed or adopted the symbol with the intent to
sign.


And for the few states that haven't passed UETA, E-SIGN:
http://www.cio.noaa.gov/itmanagement/pl106229.pdf

(however, E-SIGN is more for electronic commerce, I'm not a
lawyer, so I don't know if there's anything in it that says it's
not for contracts.  (UETA specifically includes contracts, E-SIGN
specically excludes wills and a few other legal documents)



-
Joe Hourcle


Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-08 Thread Dan Scott
 On 07/03/2007 at 7:32 pm, David J. Fiander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 How about sending it to the Internet Archive?

 - David

That was a great idea that was also brought up before the conference,
but the license that speakers signed specifically stated Code4Lib Web
site as the destination place for the videos.
(http://www.code4lib.org/files/c4lrelease.pdf)


I understand that any resulting products may be made available on the
web as part of the
Code4Lib web site, under the Creative Commons
Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike
2.5 License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/).


I hate to be all formal and legalistic and stuff, but it would suck for
Noel to be the target of a lawsuit from a disgruntled person a few years
down the road. So, to stick with the letter of the license, we should
make the video available on code4lib.org first, then someone could
(under the CC-A-NC-SA license) repost it at the Internet Archive where
it can avoid being caught between a hammer and an anvil (*rim shot*).

Dan
--

Systems Librarian,
Bibliothèque J.N. Desmarais Library
Laurentian University / Université Laurentienne

Phone: 705-675-1151 x3315


Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-08 Thread Jason Etheridge

On 3/8/07, Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, to stick with the letter of the license, we should
make the video available on code4lib.org first, then someone could
(under the CC-A-NC-SA license) repost it at the Internet Archive where
it can avoid being caught between a hammer and an anvil (*rim shot*).


IANAL, but would it be enough to satisfy the wording if we simply
linked to the videos on archive.org from code4lib.org?  :)

--
Jason Etheridge
GPLS -- PINES Development
http://open-ils.org/


Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-08 Thread K.G. Schneider
nota bene... for anyone taking notes for lessons learned to apply next
year, you may want to phrase those posting agreements as broadly as
possible.

As a speaker, I thought the conference was wonderful. Most of the
presentations were too techy for me, but we all knew that going in, and
sometimes being exposed to good ideas fore and aft of thirty minutes of
talk about coding is enough to get my brain rolling in new ways. I
returned to my own institution more committed to vendor-frei
approaches to information services, and also to more in-house
development. It turns out in addition to various pockets of expertise we
have one staffer who dearly wants to brush up her already extensive and
currently unutilized Java, Php, MySQL and other application skills...
amazing what you have when you look around.

So thanks for inviting me, and thanks for listening to what I had to
share. As you explore potential speakers, you might also consider
opportunities how an invitation to an outsider is also your ministry
to the non-coding communities. You know, the sublunary folk who commit
the resources and write the checks. ;-)

Karen G. Schneider
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:27:44 -0500, Jason Etheridge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 On 3/8/07, Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So, to stick with the letter of the license, we should
  make the video available on code4lib.org first, then someone could
  (under the CC-A-NC-SA license) repost it at the Internet Archive where
  it can avoid being caught between a hammer and an anvil (*rim shot*).

 IANAL, but would it be enough to satisfy the wording if we simply
 linked to the videos on archive.org from code4lib.org?  :)

 --
 Jason Etheridge
 GPLS -- PINES Development
 http://open-ils.org/


Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-08 Thread Binkley, Peter
Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form?
Peter

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Scott
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:19 AM
To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

 On 07/03/2007 at 7:32 pm, David J. Fiander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 How about sending it to the Internet Archive?

 - David

That was a great idea that was also brought up before the conference, but the 
license that speakers signed specifically stated Code4Lib Web site as the 
destination place for the videos.
(http://www.code4lib.org/files/c4lrelease.pdf)


I understand that any resulting products may be made available on the web as 
part of the Code4Lib web site, under the Creative Commons 
Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike
2.5 License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/).


I hate to be all formal and legalistic and stuff, but it would suck for Noel to 
be the target of a lawsuit from a disgruntled person a few years down the road. 
So, to stick with the letter of the license, we should make the video available 
on code4lib.org first, then someone could (under the CC-A-NC-SA license) repost 
it at the Internet Archive where it can avoid being caught between a hammer and 
an anvil (*rim shot*).

Dan
--

Systems Librarian,
Bibliothèque J.N. Desmarais Library
Laurentian University / Université Laurentienne

Phone: 705-675-1151 x3315


Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-08 Thread Roy Tennant
On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form?

To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page:

http://code4lib.org/2007

That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks,
Roy


Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-08 Thread Kevin S. Clarke

And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and
attach it to an email)?

Thanks,
Kevin


On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form?

To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page:

http://code4lib.org/2007

That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks,
Roy



Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-08 Thread Edward Corrado
Since I have all of the print ones from code4lib, it probably makes sense
to send them to me. However, I'll leave it up to someone else to determine
if electronic is sufficient.

Edward

 And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and
 attach it to an email)?

 Thanks,
 Kevin


 On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form?

 To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this
 page:

 http://code4lib.org/2007

 That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear.
 Thanks,
 Roy




Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-08 Thread Roy Tennant
Ed will probably kill me (and rightly so), but to facilitate email
submission of permission forms, I've added a link at the bottom of the
conference page (but above the file attachments) that if you click on it
will set up an email message to Ed that all you need to do is add your name
at the bottom and send. I think this should be sufficient. So let the spam
begin!
Roy


On 3/8/07 9:43 AM, Kevin S. Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and
 attach it to an email)?

 Thanks,
 Kevin


 On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form?

 To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page:

 http://code4lib.org/2007

 That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks,
 Roy



[CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-07 Thread David J. Fiander

How about sending it to the Internet Archive?

- David

--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian


[CODE4LIB] RE: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-07 Thread Darci Hanning
Ed wrote:

On Mar 7, 2007, at 7:32 PM, David J. Fiander wrote:
 How about sending it to the Internet Archive?

+1

//Ed

And now I say: Pretty much what I said a couple of weeks ago ;-)



From: Darci Hanning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:36 PM
To: Code for Libraries
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Videos of presentations?

Another hosting option to consider is the Internet Archive 
(http://www.archive.org/create/) -- the Plone Conference last fall had two of 
the four tracks professionally taped and then volunteers encoded and uploaded 
them all to the archive. It was great even for conference attendees because 
there was just too much good stuff going on ;-)

Cheers!
Darci (geeklibrarian)


Re: [CODE4LIB] RE: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

2007-03-07 Thread K.G. Schneider
I love that. thought I should add that, as one of the speakers. :) Not even
sure what +1 means and it's too late to email our lone developer, but +1,
indeed.

Karen G. Schneider
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ed wrote:

 On Mar 7, 2007, at 7:32 PM, David J. Fiander wrote:
  How about sending it to the Internet Archive?

 +1

 //Ed

 And now I say: Pretty much what I said a couple of weeks ago ;-)


 --
 --
 From: Darci Hanning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:36 PM
 To: Code for Libraries
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Videos of presentations?

 Another hosting option to consider is the Internet Archive
 (http://www.archive.org/create/) -- the Plone Conference last fall had two
 of the four tracks professionally taped and then volunteers encoded and
 uploaded them all to the archive. It was great even for conference
 attendees because there was just too much good stuff going on ;-)

 Cheers!
 Darci (geeklibrarian)