Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
I guess I better do something quick to clean out this e-mail account that is at 95.4% of quota. :-) Edward Roy Tennant said the following on 3/8/2007 11:04 PM: Ed will probably kill me (and rightly so), but to facilitate email submission of permission forms, I've added a link at the bottom of the conference page (but above the file attachments) that if you click on it will set up an email message to Ed that all you need to do is add your name at the bottom and send. I think this should be sufficient. So let the spam begin! Roy On 3/8/07 9:43 AM, Kevin S. Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and attach it to an email)? Thanks, Kevin On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form? To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page: http://code4lib.org/2007 That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks, Roy -- Edward M. Corrado http://www.tcnj.edu/~corrado/ Systems Librarian The College of New Jersey 403E TCNJ Library PO Box 7718 Ewing, NJ 08628-0718 Tel: 609.771.3337 Fax: 609.637.5177 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
I wasn't even at the conference (sigh), but I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned that *electronically* signed (encrypted) forms have been formally recognized and legalized for some time (and typed text email has not). Surely one of the wizards in the group knows the mechanics of the process (PKI). I've used it too rarely to be an instructor myself. Edward Corrado wrote: Since I have all of the print ones from code4lib, it probably makes sense to send them to me. However, I'll leave it up to someone else to determine if electronic is sufficient. Edward And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and attach it to an email)? Thanks, Kevin On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form? To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page: http://code4lib.org/2007 That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks, Roy begin:vcard fn:Jeffrey Barnett n:Barnett;Jeffrey org:Yale University Library;Integrated Library Technical Services adr;dom:;;;New Haven;CT;06520-8240 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Sr. Research Analyst tel;work:(203) 432-1752 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Jeffrey Barnett wrote: I wasn't even at the conference (sigh), but I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned that *electronically* signed (encrypted) forms have been formally recognized and legalized for some time (and typed text email has not). Surely one of the wizards in the group knows the mechanics of the process (PKI). I've used it too rarely to be an instructor myself. To the best of my knowledge, neither the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act, nor the E-SIGN act require PKI. (After all, the credit card companies don't make you use PKI when you by something on the internet) UETA: (note, I don't think all states have this one, and some made modifications to it) http://www.law.upenn.edu/bll/ulc/fnact99/1990s/ueta99.pdf Section 2(8) : Electronic signature means an electronic sound, symbol, or process attached to or logically associated with a record and executed or adopted by a person with the intent to sign the record. Section 2 Comment 7, last paragraph : A digital signature using public key encryption technology would qualify as an electronic signature, as would the mere inclusion of one's name as a part of an e-mail message -- so long as in each case the signer executed or adopted the symbol with the intent to sign. And for the few states that haven't passed UETA, E-SIGN: http://www.cio.noaa.gov/itmanagement/pl106229.pdf (however, E-SIGN is more for electronic commerce, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know if there's anything in it that says it's not for contracts. (UETA specifically includes contracts, E-SIGN specically excludes wills and a few other legal documents) - Joe Hourcle
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
On 07/03/2007 at 7:32 pm, David J. Fiander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about sending it to the Internet Archive? - David That was a great idea that was also brought up before the conference, but the license that speakers signed specifically stated Code4Lib Web site as the destination place for the videos. (http://www.code4lib.org/files/c4lrelease.pdf) I understand that any resulting products may be made available on the web as part of the Code4Lib web site, under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/). I hate to be all formal and legalistic and stuff, but it would suck for Noel to be the target of a lawsuit from a disgruntled person a few years down the road. So, to stick with the letter of the license, we should make the video available on code4lib.org first, then someone could (under the CC-A-NC-SA license) repost it at the Internet Archive where it can avoid being caught between a hammer and an anvil (*rim shot*). Dan -- Systems Librarian, Bibliothèque J.N. Desmarais Library Laurentian University / Université Laurentienne Phone: 705-675-1151 x3315
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
On 3/8/07, Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, to stick with the letter of the license, we should make the video available on code4lib.org first, then someone could (under the CC-A-NC-SA license) repost it at the Internet Archive where it can avoid being caught between a hammer and an anvil (*rim shot*). IANAL, but would it be enough to satisfy the wording if we simply linked to the videos on archive.org from code4lib.org? :) -- Jason Etheridge GPLS -- PINES Development http://open-ils.org/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
nota bene... for anyone taking notes for lessons learned to apply next year, you may want to phrase those posting agreements as broadly as possible. As a speaker, I thought the conference was wonderful. Most of the presentations were too techy for me, but we all knew that going in, and sometimes being exposed to good ideas fore and aft of thirty minutes of talk about coding is enough to get my brain rolling in new ways. I returned to my own institution more committed to vendor-frei approaches to information services, and also to more in-house development. It turns out in addition to various pockets of expertise we have one staffer who dearly wants to brush up her already extensive and currently unutilized Java, Php, MySQL and other application skills... amazing what you have when you look around. So thanks for inviting me, and thanks for listening to what I had to share. As you explore potential speakers, you might also consider opportunities how an invitation to an outsider is also your ministry to the non-coding communities. You know, the sublunary folk who commit the resources and write the checks. ;-) Karen G. Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:27:44 -0500, Jason Etheridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 3/8/07, Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, to stick with the letter of the license, we should make the video available on code4lib.org first, then someone could (under the CC-A-NC-SA license) repost it at the Internet Archive where it can avoid being caught between a hammer and an anvil (*rim shot*). IANAL, but would it be enough to satisfy the wording if we simply linked to the videos on archive.org from code4lib.org? :) -- Jason Etheridge GPLS -- PINES Development http://open-ils.org/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form? Peter -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Scott Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:19 AM To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video? On 07/03/2007 at 7:32 pm, David J. Fiander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about sending it to the Internet Archive? - David That was a great idea that was also brought up before the conference, but the license that speakers signed specifically stated Code4Lib Web site as the destination place for the videos. (http://www.code4lib.org/files/c4lrelease.pdf) I understand that any resulting products may be made available on the web as part of the Code4Lib web site, under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/). I hate to be all formal and legalistic and stuff, but it would suck for Noel to be the target of a lawsuit from a disgruntled person a few years down the road. So, to stick with the letter of the license, we should make the video available on code4lib.org first, then someone could (under the CC-A-NC-SA license) repost it at the Internet Archive where it can avoid being caught between a hammer and an anvil (*rim shot*). Dan -- Systems Librarian, Bibliothèque J.N. Desmarais Library Laurentian University / Université Laurentienne Phone: 705-675-1151 x3315
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form? To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page: http://code4lib.org/2007 That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks, Roy
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and attach it to an email)? Thanks, Kevin On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form? To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page: http://code4lib.org/2007 That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks, Roy
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
Since I have all of the print ones from code4lib, it probably makes sense to send them to me. However, I'll leave it up to someone else to determine if electronic is sufficient. Edward And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and attach it to an email)? Thanks, Kevin On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form? To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page: http://code4lib.org/2007 That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks, Roy
Re: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
Ed will probably kill me (and rightly so), but to facilitate email submission of permission forms, I've added a link at the bottom of the conference page (but above the file attachments) that if you click on it will set up an email message to Ed that all you need to do is add your name at the bottom and send. I think this should be sufficient. So let the spam begin! Roy On 3/8/07 9:43 AM, Kevin S. Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to whom do we snail mail it or is our typed name sufficient (and attach it to an email)? Thanks, Kevin On 3/8/07, Roy Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/8/07 9:21 AM, Binkley, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just ask the speakers to download, sign and send in a new form? To support this, I've put a new release form up at the bottom of this page: http://code4lib.org/2007 That does not specify where on the web the materials might appear. Thanks, Roy
[CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
How about sending it to the Internet Archive? - David -- David J. Fiander Digital Services Librarian
[CODE4LIB] RE: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
Ed wrote: On Mar 7, 2007, at 7:32 PM, David J. Fiander wrote: How about sending it to the Internet Archive? +1 //Ed And now I say: Pretty much what I said a couple of weeks ago ;-) From: Darci Hanning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:36 PM To: Code for Libraries Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Videos of presentations? Another hosting option to consider is the Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/create/) -- the Plone Conference last fall had two of the four tracks professionally taped and then volunteers encoded and uploaded them all to the archive. It was great even for conference attendees because there was just too much good stuff going on ;-) Cheers! Darci (geeklibrarian)
Re: [CODE4LIB] RE: [CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?
I love that. thought I should add that, as one of the speakers. :) Not even sure what +1 means and it's too late to email our lone developer, but +1, indeed. Karen G. Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ed wrote: On Mar 7, 2007, at 7:32 PM, David J. Fiander wrote: How about sending it to the Internet Archive? +1 //Ed And now I say: Pretty much what I said a couple of weeks ago ;-) -- -- From: Darci Hanning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:36 PM To: Code for Libraries Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Videos of presentations? Another hosting option to consider is the Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/create/) -- the Plone Conference last fall had two of the four tracks professionally taped and then volunteers encoded and uploaded them all to the archive. It was great even for conference attendees because there was just too much good stuff going on ;-) Cheers! Darci (geeklibrarian)