Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
I will say that if you have control over the app itself or can use the HTML pages in your own ipad app with just the webkit wrapper, it would be a no-brainer to store really good logs. I'll go a step further and suggest that to make it more elegant, transmit the logs via bluetooth to another machine nearby. ___ Michael Friscia Manager, Digital Library & Programming Services Yale University Library (203) 432-1856 From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Edward Iglesias [edwardigles...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:00 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics Thanks to everyone. Lots of good ideas here. I am not sure about transferring our mobile app to html5 but it might work. Thanks again. Edward Iglesias On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Brad Rhoads wrote: > I'd try using couchdb > (http://www.couchbase.org/get/couchbase-mobile-for-ios/current). It > would auto sync when ever you did get online. > > --- > www.maf.org/rhoads > www.ontherhoads.org > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Edward Iglesias > wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. >> Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk >> software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about >> internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history >> from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant >> solution. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Edward Iglesias >> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
Thanks to everyone. Lots of good ideas here. I am not sure about transferring our mobile app to html5 but it might work. Thanks again. Edward Iglesias On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Brad Rhoads wrote: > I'd try using couchdb > (http://www.couchbase.org/get/couchbase-mobile-for-ios/current). It > would auto sync when ever you did get online. > > --- > www.maf.org/rhoads > www.ontherhoads.org > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Edward Iglesias > wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. >> Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk >> software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about >> internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history >> from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant >> solution. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Edward Iglesias >> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
I'd try using couchdb (http://www.couchbase.org/get/couchbase-mobile-for-ios/current). It would auto sync when ever you did get online. --- www.maf.org/rhoads www.ontherhoads.org On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Edward Iglesias wrote: > Hello All, > > We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. > Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk > software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about > internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history > from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant > solution. > > Thanks, > > > Edward Iglesias >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
I've used the semi-deprecated Web SQL Database on iPads to store relational data locally with some periodic polling to see if it's safe to flush the data to a server. The data survives browser and device restarts. This works well as long as the network access is reliably intermittent (as Nate pointed out). I used the persistence.js ORM, which made the data a little easier to work with. https://github.com/zefhemel/persistencejs If you're just storing a set of log lines, localStorage might be the shorter path (and it would work in Firefox, if that matters). Jason On 11/11/11 3:41 PM, Nate Vack wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: It depends on what you mean by local. If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no network connection, there isn't much you can do. You could use HTML5 storage: http://diveintohtml5.info/storage.html You'd need network access *sometime,* but not constantly. -n
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
HTML5 local cache is an interesting idea...you could potentially even build in some javascript to do very basic logging (accesses/uses) using the cache as your datastore. Funky, but probably doable. If going down the xCode/Apple dev road, while it's not trivial, it's reasonably straightforward to throw some HTML into a UIWebview in Xcode and compile it as a native app. If you're paying for the Dev access, you could build an app directly to do what you want. Jason On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Nate Vack wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > > It depends on what you mean by local. > > > > If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no > > network connection, there isn't much you can do. > > You could use HTML5 storage: > > http://diveintohtml5.info/storage.html > > You'd need network access *sometime,* but not constantly. > > -n >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > It depends on what you mean by local. > > If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no > network connection, there isn't much you can do. You could use HTML5 storage: http://diveintohtml5.info/storage.html You'd need network access *sometime,* but not constantly. -n
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
It depends on what you mean by local. If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no network connection, there isn't much you can do. If the iPads have access to a local network and you have a local webserver, you can use a log analysis tool such as AWStats on the server. Thanks, Cary On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Edward Iglesias wrote: > Hello All, > > We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. > Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk > software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about > internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history > from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant > solution. > > Thanks, > > > Edward Iglesias > -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
On 11/11/11 2:31 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: It depends on what you mean by local. If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no network connection, there isn't much you can do. This isn't entirely true as griffey@gmail suggested under separate cover. It is just a wee more involved than your solution below... ./fxk If the iPads have access to a local network and you have a local webserver, you can use a log analysis tool such as AWStats on the server. Thanks, Cary On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Edward Iglesias wrote: Hello All, We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution. Thanks, Edward Iglesias -- " ... I told my doctor I got all the exercise I needed being a pallbearer for all my friends who run and do exercises!" -- Winston Churchill
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
I'm stumped but also curious, how much history does the ipad store? ___ Michael Friscia Manager, Digital Library & Programming Services Yale University Library (203) 432-1856 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Iglesias Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:31 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics No internet connection. We have wireless but it would be sketchy for a months at a time connection. Edward Iglesias On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Friscia, Michael wrote: > Why not put google analytics into those local pages? Or are the ipads not > connected to the internet? > > ___ > Michael Friscia > Manager, Digital Library & Programming Services > > Yale University Library > (203) 432-1856 > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > Of Edward Iglesias > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:53 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics > > Hello All, > > We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. > Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk > software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about > internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history from > the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution. > > Thanks, > > > Edward Iglesias >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
If you register the iPads as part of the Apple Developer Network, you can use Xcode to view all sorts of access/use logs that iOS saves. I don't have any specific knowledge of the app you're using (which would make a difference, since it would be doing the logging) but the capability is there. Becoming an Apple iOS developer is $99 a year, which may also make a difference. Jason On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Edward Iglesias wrote: > No internet connection. We have wireless but it would be sketchy for > a months at a time connection. > > > Edward Iglesias > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Friscia, Michael > wrote: > > Why not put google analytics into those local pages? Or are the ipads > not connected to the internet? > > > > ___ > > Michael Friscia > > Manager, Digital Library & Programming Services > > > > Yale University Library > > (203) 432-1856 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Edward Iglesias > > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:53 PM > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > Subject: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics > > > > Hello All, > > > > We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. > > Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk > software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about > internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history from > the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Edward Iglesias > > >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
No internet connection. We have wireless but it would be sketchy for a months at a time connection. Edward Iglesias On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Friscia, Michael wrote: > Why not put google analytics into those local pages? Or are the ipads not > connected to the internet? > > ___ > Michael Friscia > Manager, Digital Library & Programming Services > > Yale University Library > (203) 432-1856 > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Edward Iglesias > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:53 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics > > Hello All, > > We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. > Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk > software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about > internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history from > the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution. > > Thanks, > > > Edward Iglesias >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
Why not put google analytics into those local pages? Or are the ipads not connected to the internet? ___ Michael Friscia Manager, Digital Library & Programming Services Yale University Library (203) 432-1856 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Iglesias Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:53 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics Hello All, We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution. Thanks, Edward Iglesias
[CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
Hello All, We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks. Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them? We are using Kiosk software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about internet connectivity. I've thought about just exporting the history from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution. Thanks, Edward Iglesias
