Re: [jelly] moved werkz tags

2002-12-31 Thread James Strachan
From: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi,

 I moved the Werkz jelly tags of out of jelly proper and into the Werkz
 repository. I also changed a couple of others things like test resource
 copying and the project.xml file to update the version of Werkz being
 used. I just did a massive refactoring of Maven so the test build works
 for me and I've asked Dion to try the jelly build to try and find any
 problems before anyone else does.

This sounds like a good idea.

One problem this causes is that the Jeez tag library (terrible name,
probably calling it the Maven tag library or Maven core tag library would be
better) which is a combination of Werkz + Ant + a couple more tags). Its
probably worth moving this Jeez tag library into either Werkz or Maven; the
latter probably makes most sense then any other Maven specific tags could be
put into this single tag library that is then bound to the default XML
namespace.

So how about we move this Jeez library into Maven?

James
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Re: [jelly] moved werkz tags

2002-12-31 Thread dion
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James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 31/12/2002 10:36:26 
PM:

 From: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hi,
 
  I moved the Werkz jelly tags of out of jelly proper and into the Werkz
  repository. I also changed a couple of others things like test 
resource
  copying and the project.xml file to update the version of Werkz being
  used. I just did a massive refactoring of Maven so the test build 
works
  for me and I've asked Dion to try the jelly build to try and find any
  problems before anyone else does.
 
 This sounds like a good idea.
 
 One problem this causes is that the Jeez tag library (terrible name,
 probably calling it the Maven tag library or Maven core tag library 
would be
 better) which is a combination of Werkz + Ant + a couple more tags). Its
 probably worth moving this Jeez tag library into either Werkz or Maven; 
the
 latter probably makes most sense then any other Maven specific tags 
could be
 put into this single tag library that is then bound to the default XML
 namespace.
 
 So how about we move this Jeez library into Maven?
 
 James
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Re: [jelly] moved werkz tags

2002-12-31 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 06:36, James Strachan wrote:
 From: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hi,
 
  I moved the Werkz jelly tags of out of jelly proper and into the Werkz
  repository. I also changed a couple of others things like test resource
  copying and the project.xml file to update the version of Werkz being
  used. I just did a massive refactoring of Maven so the test build works
  for me and I've asked Dion to try the jelly build to try and find any
  problems before anyone else does.
 
 This sounds like a good idea.
 
 One problem this causes is that the Jeez tag library (terrible name,
 probably calling it the Maven tag library or Maven core tag library would be
 better) which is a combination of Werkz + Ant + a couple more tags). Its
 probably worth moving this Jeez tag library into either Werkz or Maven; the
 latter probably makes most sense then any other Maven specific tags could be
 put into this single tag library that is then bound to the default XML
 namespace.
 
 So how about we move this Jeez library into Maven?

I have copies of them there which I'm now using. I just wasn't sure what
you had planned vis-a-vis general ant usage. If it's cool with you I
think moving them into Maven would make the most sense. I just didn't
want to break your ant tests which seemed to use Jeez.

I would also not be averse to moving the ant tag lib to maven either. I
think I'm close to being able run build.xml files directly now and
having all the tags in maven would probably help with this.

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Re: [jelly] moved werkz tags

2002-12-31 Thread James Strachan
From: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 06:36, James Strachan wrote:
  From: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Hi,
  
   I moved the Werkz jelly tags of out of jelly proper and into the Werkz
   repository. I also changed a couple of others things like test
resource
   copying and the project.xml file to update the version of Werkz being
   used. I just did a massive refactoring of Maven so the test build
works
   for me and I've asked Dion to try the jelly build to try and find any
   problems before anyone else does.
 
  This sounds like a good idea.
 
  One problem this causes is that the Jeez tag library (terrible name,
  probably calling it the Maven tag library or Maven core tag library
would be
  better) which is a combination of Werkz + Ant + a couple more tags). Its
  probably worth moving this Jeez tag library into either Werkz or Maven;
the
  latter probably makes most sense then any other Maven specific tags
could be
  put into this single tag library that is then bound to the default XML
  namespace.
 
  So how about we move this Jeez library into Maven?

 I have copies of them there which I'm now using. I just wasn't sure what
 you had planned vis-a-vis general ant usage. If it's cool with you I
 think moving them into Maven would make the most sense. I just didn't
 want to break your ant tests which seemed to use Jeez.

I've just fixed the test cases which were using Jeez instead of the Ant
taglib.

So now its only the Jeez test cases that use Jeez (I think). So its all
ready to move to Maven.


 I would also not be averse to moving the ant tag lib to maven either. I
 think I'm close to being able run build.xml files directly now

Way cool!

 and
 having all the tags in maven would probably help with this.

I think I'd like to keep the Ant tag library inside the Jelly distro as its
very useful to be able to use Ant tasks inside of Jelly. It also means Jelly
based testing frameworks like Latka or Ant based frameworks that use Jelly
like Anteater can make use of Ant tasks without being dependent on Maven.
Who knows, maybe one day Ant itself could use Jelly to script its tasks too.

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Re: [jelly] moved werkz tags

2002-12-31 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 11:16, James Strachan wrote:

 I think I'd like to keep the Ant tag library inside the Jelly distro as its
 very useful to be able to use Ant tasks inside of Jelly. It also means Jelly
 based testing frameworks like Latka or Ant based frameworks that use Jelly
 like Anteater can make use of Ant tasks without being dependent on Maven.
 Who knows, maybe one day Ant itself could use Jelly to script its tasks too.

Yes, it would be nice if all that great utility code was taken out of
Ant and put in the commons and use a dynabean adapter to turn the
utility bean into a task for use in Ant. I think that is the most
fundametnal design error and drawback to Ant is that everything that is
basically really just a bean is bound Task and the very problematic
AntClassLoader.

If the utility code was taken out of Ant I imagine you could get an
compatible mechanism up and running in a couple months. That would be a
huge unification and allow access to all the utility code in Ant which
is very annoying to use outside of Ant currently.

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[jelly] moved werkz tags

2002-12-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
Hi,

I moved the Werkz jelly tags of out of jelly proper and into the Werkz
repository. I also changed a couple of others things like test resource
copying and the project.xml file to update the version of Werkz being
used. I just did a massive refactoring of Maven so the test build works
for me and I've asked Dion to try the jelly build to try and find any
problems before anyone else does.

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