RE: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

2005-11-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 02:21 +0100, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
 Thx For the precision Brett

+1

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  Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
   This jar was re-added some days ago because some important 
  projects like xdoclet use it in their releases !!

anyone know why they would want to depend on a very old version with
known bugs?
 
  ... re-added to ibiblio for the sake of backwards 
  compatibility for those other projects, but not Apache as it 
  should be only official releases there.

+1

- robert


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Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

2005-11-21 Thread Brett Porter

robert burrell donkin wrote:

anyone know why they would want to depend on a very old version with
known bugs?


It's 1.1-dev, not 1.0-dev, and I think that someone (could have been one 
of the xdoclet devs) once told me it was much much faster. I didn't 
quite believe it, but never tried.


I'd be inclined to refuse upload of future releases if this is still there.

Cheers,
Brett

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Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

2005-11-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 07:09 +1100, Brett Porter wrote:
 robert burrell donkin wrote:
  anyone know why they would want to depend on a very old version with
  known bugs?
 
 It's 1.1-dev, not 1.0-dev, and I think that someone (could have been one 
 of the xdoclet devs) once told me it was much much faster. I didn't 
 quite believe it, but never tried.

the version's somewhere between 1.0 and 1.0.1 and i'm really not sure
how it could possibly be 'much much faster' :-/

it may be a little faster since it probably lacks some of the complex
code which is required to cope with the nightmarish variety of
classloaders to be found out there in the wild but that's unlikely to
make much of a difference in real use cases and certainly is much less
than choosing a performant logging strategy.

 I'd be inclined to refuse upload of future releases if this is still there.

future JCL releases?

- robert


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Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

2005-11-21 Thread Brett Porter

robert burrell donkin wrote:

On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 07:09 +1100, Brett Porter wrote:


robert burrell donkin wrote:


anyone know why they would want to depend on a very old version with
known bugs?


It's 1.1-dev, not 1.0-dev, and I think that someone (could have been one 
of the xdoclet devs) once told me it was much much faster. I didn't 
quite believe it, but never tried.



the version's somewhere between 1.0 and 1.0.1 and i'm really not sure
how it could possibly be 'much much faster' :-/


heh. confusing :)



it may be a little faster since it probably lacks some of the complex
code which is required to cope with the nightmarish variety of
classloaders to be found out there in the wild but that's unlikely to
make much of a difference in real use cases and certainly is much less
than choosing a performant logging strategy.



right, that makes sense.




I'd be inclined to refuse upload of future releases if this is still there.



future JCL releases?


oh, no - xdoclet. I'll file a bug there if they still depend on it.

Thanks,
Brett

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RE: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

2005-11-20 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
This jar was re-added some days ago because some important projects like 
xdoclet use it in their releases !!

Arnaud

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 On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 16:55 -0800, Carlos Sanchez wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Please remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar from 
  http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/commons-logging/jars/
 
 ack'd
 
 looks like mark diggory put it in there when the repository 
 was starting out
 
 - robert
 
 
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Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

2005-11-20 Thread Brett Porter

Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

This jar was re-added some days ago because some important projects like 
xdoclet use it in their releases !!



... re-added to ibiblio for the sake of backwards compatibility for 
those other projects, but not Apache as it should be only official 
releases there.


- Brett

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RE: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

2005-11-20 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
Thx For the precision Brett

Cheers,

Arnaud


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 commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository
 
 Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
  This jar was re-added some days ago because some important 
 projects like xdoclet use it in their releases !!
  
 
 ... re-added to ibiblio for the sake of backwards 
 compatibility for those other projects, but not Apache as it 
 should be only official releases there.
 
 - Brett
 
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