Re: OT: Re: [ANN] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Noel J. Bergman wrote: The Geronimo developers represent that the code contributed for Geronimo does not contain any code belonging to JBoss. I just wanted to underline above. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: Re: [ANN] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Vic Cekvenich wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: The Geronimo developers represent that the code contributed for Geronimo does not contain any code belonging to JBoss. I just wanted to underline above. Every Apache Committer represents that they own the right to contribute their code to the ASF. That is not unique to Geronimo. In Howard's case, he did so in good faith, and then discovered otherwise, which resulted in HiveMind being removed pending resolution. Are you claiming that the Geromino developers are falsely representing their rights and the origin of the code? Is it your claim that they are violating their CLA? Speak plainly, if you've a claim to make. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: [ANN] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Vic, You should drop the attitude as it provides no benefit to the discussion. A simple statement of fact would have been perfectly acceptable. This issue should have been raised on the appropriate Geronimo mailing list and not in the manner it was presented. -John K On 10 Nov 2003, at 20:40, Vic Cekvenich wrote: Are you claiming that the Geromino developers are falsely representing their rights and the origin of the code? Is it your claim that they are violating their CLA? Speak plainly, if you've a claim to make. --- Noel This was posted on the Server Side TODAY, I had nothing to do with it: http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337 Shame on the developers that steal code! .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: Re: [ANN] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Interesting that HiveMind was a problem, yet jBoss to Geromino is not a potential legal problem for Apache Users. What was the diference, that they put the code in sf.net first, refactored packages and claimed it was not jBoss IP? All Howard did was level with ASF, and Geronimo (insert appropriate word) claimed orignial IP. Even enforcement would be great. Howard acknowledges that there is an IP concern regarding HiveMind, although he hopes to have it corrected soon. The Geronimo developers represent that the code contributed for Geronimo does not contain any code belonging to JBoss. Should any be found, it will be removed. Your comment about code appearing on SourceForge suggests that you are confusing Geronimo with Elba. I hope HiveMind shows up on sf.net in the mean time At worst, if there were JBoss code in Geronimo it would be licensed under LGPL. HiveMind, however, is not LGPL. Until its IP problems are resolved, the code is proprietary to WebCT. For Howard to publish HiveMind anywhere before the IP issues are resolved could be considered misappropriation of corporate assets. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: [ANN] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Vic, I read the discussions in which you made allegations about Geronimo. Now please read this: 1/ It is the decision of the Jakarta PMC that as doubt about the ownership has been expressed and not resolved it is prudent for the PMC to take this step until it is resolved. 2/ No one is suggesting, at this stage, that there is any possibility that Hivemind won't return as soon as the PMC are satisfied that the right to distribute the code under the ASFL has been satisfactorily established. The origin of the code is not in doubt. 3/ Geronimo is not under the jurisdiction of this PMC. The Geronimo situation was explained to you at the time . There is certainly no conspiracy against Hivemind. Period. I sincerely hope that the full facts regarding the doubt expressed over Hivemind can be examined and the issue resolved quickly, in the meantime the PMC has a duty to take this issue seriously. Not to do so, however desirable it might be, would be negligent. d. Interesting that HiveMind was a problem, yet jBoss to Geromino is not a potential legal problem for Apache Users. What was the diference, that they put the code in sf.net first, refactored packages and claimed it was not jBoss IP? All Howard did was level with ASF, and Geronimo (insert appropriate word) claimed orignial IP. Even enforcement would be great. I hope HiveMind shows up on sf.net in the mean time, *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]