Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-27 Thread Henri Yandell
From a Jakarta level view, I really want to push for:

jakarta/subproject/whatever...

Other than that, I'll work with anything :)

(Which I just noticed Velocity haven't done, so will see if I can get
them to change).

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:52:22 -0800, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:35:14 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Martin,
 
  I'm available if you need help.
 
 Thanks, I appreciate that.
 
  One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:
 
 Summarising my preferred versions of your alternatives, we might have:
 
 jakarta/
   commons/
 proper/
   ...
   digester/
 branches/
 tags/
 trunk/
   ...
 site/
   branches/
   tags/
   trunk/
 sandbox/
   ...
   bzip2/
 branches/
 tags/
 trunk/
   ...
 
 This gives each component its own branches and tags, which makes more
 sense to me than having Commons-wide tagging and branching. As
 mentioned, it also makes 'site' its own thing, rather than pretending
 that it's a component.
 
 Comments?
 
 --
 Martin Cooper
 
 
 
 
  Commons Proper Components
 
  1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
  2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
 
  Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)
 
  1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
  2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
 
  Anybody have other options?
 
  I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me just wishes they
  had combined all velocity related modules under a velocity directory.
  If everything commons where under a commons directory, then we could
  have a separate directory for the commons site - something like
  /jakarta/commons/site.  site would then not be a sibling to a real
  project.
 
  Tim 2 cents O'Brien
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
   To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
   Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to
  SVN?
  
   On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
  
   Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.
  
(which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with
  infra)
  
   Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
  
   --
   Martin Cooper
  
  
Hen
   
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.

 Phil



 Alex Karasulu wrote:
  +1
 
  Noel J. Bergman wrote:
 
  6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
  directory, or
  leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What
   about the
  website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted
   both.
 
 
 
 
 
  The ideal scenario would be to use cvs delete on all the
  sandbox
  files, so that the original history is maintained there, but
   nobody
  who checks out the sandbox (with -dP at least) will be
  bothered
   by
  the files.
 
 
 
  The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.
   Can we
  PLEASE consider doing so?
 
  A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
  migrating,
  as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and
  XML
   are
  definitely the laggards now.
 
  --- Noel
 
 
 
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Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-27 Thread Henri Yandell
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion exists by the way.

Hen

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:55:57 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a Jakarta level view, I really want to push for:
 
 jakarta/subproject/whatever...
 
 Other than that, I'll work with anything :)
 
 (Which I just noticed Velocity haven't done, so will see if I can get
 them to change).
 
 
 
 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:52:22 -0800, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:35:14 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Martin,
  
   I'm available if you need help.
 
  Thanks, I appreciate that.
 
   One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:
 
  Summarising my preferred versions of your alternatives, we might have:
 
  jakarta/
commons/
  proper/
...
digester/
  branches/
  tags/
  trunk/
...
  site/
branches/
tags/
trunk/
  sandbox/
...
bzip2/
  branches/
  tags/
  trunk/
...
 
  This gives each component its own branches and tags, which makes more
  sense to me than having Commons-wide tagging and branching. As
  mentioned, it also makes 'site' its own thing, rather than pretending
  that it's a component.
 
  Comments?
 
  --
  Martin Cooper
 
 
 
 
   Commons Proper Components
  
   1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
   2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
  
   Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)
  
   1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
   2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
  
   Anybody have other options?
  
   I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me just wishes they
   had combined all velocity related modules under a velocity directory.
   If everything commons where under a commons directory, then we could
   have a separate directory for the commons site - something like
   /jakarta/commons/site.  site would then not be a sibling to a real
   project.
  
   Tim 2 cents O'Brien
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to
   SVN?
   
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
   
Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.
   
 (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with
   infra)
   
Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
   
--
Martin Cooper
   
   
 Hen

 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
 
  Phil
 
 
 
  Alex Karasulu wrote:
   +1
  
   Noel J. Bergman wrote:
  
   6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
   directory, or
   leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What
about the
   website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted
both.
  
  
  
  
  
   The ideal scenario would be to use cvs delete on all the
   sandbox
   files, so that the original history is maintained there, but
nobody
   who checks out the sandbox (with -dP at least) will be
   bothered
by
   the files.
  
  
  
   The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.
Can we
   PLEASE consider doing so?
  
   A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
   migrating,
   as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and
   XML
are
   definitely the laggards now.
  
   --- Noel
  
  
  
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RE: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-27 Thread Tim O'Brien
+/-0 for giving site tags, branches, and trunk.  It might be nice
to have the site built from site/tags/PRODUCTION so we could have some
sort of a release cycle for the site, but (OTOH) it might be nice to
keep it simple and just have content under site.

Anyone?

Tim 

 -Original Message-
 From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:56 AM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Martin Cooper
 Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: 
 Migrate to SVN?
 
 From a Jakarta level view, I really want to push for:
 
 jakarta/subproject/whatever...
 
 Other than that, I'll work with anything :)
 
 (Which I just noticed Velocity haven't done, so will see if I 
 can get them to change).
 
 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:52:22 -0800, Martin Cooper 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:35:14 -0500, Tim O'Brien 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Martin,
  
   I'm available if you need help.
  
  Thanks, I appreciate that.
  
   One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:
  
  Summarising my preferred versions of your alternatives, we 
 might have:
  
  jakarta/
commons/
  proper/
...
digester/
  branches/
  tags/
  trunk/
...
  site/
branches/
tags/
trunk/
  sandbox/
...
bzip2/
  branches/
  tags/
  trunk/
...
  
  This gives each component its own branches and tags, which 
 makes more 
  sense to me than having Commons-wide tagging and branching. As 
  mentioned, it also makes 'site' its own thing, rather than 
 pretending 
  that it's a component.
  
  Comments?
  
  --
  Martin Cooper
  
  
  
  
   Commons Proper Components
  
   1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
   2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
  
   Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)
  
   1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
   2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
  
   Anybody have other options?
  
   I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me 
 just wishes 
   they had combined all velocity related modules under a 
 velocity directory.
   If everything commons where under a commons directory, then we 
   could have a separate directory for the commons site - something 
   like /jakarta/commons/site.  site would then not be a 
 sibling to a 
   real project.
  
   Tim 2 cents O'Brien
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? 
 Was: Migrate 
to
   SVN?
   
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
   
Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong 
 desire to do it.
   
 (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, 
 liaise with
   infra)
   
Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
   
--
Martin Cooper
   
   
 Hen

 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move 
 as a group.
 
  Phil
 
 
 
  Alex Karasulu wrote:
   +1
  
   Noel J. Bergman wrote:
  
   6) should I just delete the 
   /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email directory, or leave the 
   folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What
about the
   website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just 
   deleted
both.
  
  
  
  
  
   The ideal scenario would be to use cvs delete 
 on all the
   sandbox
   files, so that the original history is 
 maintained there, 
   but
nobody
   who checks out the sandbox (with -dP at least) will be
   bothered
by
   the files.
  
  
  
   The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta 
 Commons to SVN.
Can we
   PLEASE consider doing so?
  
   A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server 
 project, have 
   been migrating, as can be seen from 
   http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and
   XML
are
   definitely the laggards now.
  
   --- Noel
  
  
  
   
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Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-26 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?

Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.

 (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with infra)

Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)

--
Martin Cooper


 Hen
 
 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
 
  Phil
 
 
 
  Alex Karasulu wrote:
   +1
  
   Noel J. Bergman wrote:
  
   6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
   directory, or
   leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What about the
   website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted both.
  
  
  
  
  
   The ideal scenario would be to use cvs delete on all the sandbox
   files, so that the original history is maintained there, but nobody
   who checks out the sandbox (with -dP at least) will be bothered by
   the files.
  
  
  
   The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.  Can we
   PLEASE consider doing so?
  
   A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
   migrating,
   as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and XML are
   definitely the laggards now.
  
   --- Noel
  
  
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RE: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-26 Thread Tim O'Brien
Martin,

I'm available if you need help.

One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:

Commons Proper Components

1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]

Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)

1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]

Anybody have other options?

I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me just wishes they
had combined all velocity related modules under a velocity directory.
If everything commons where under a commons directory, then we could
have a separate directory for the commons site - something like
/jakarta/commons/site.  site would then not be a sibling to a real
project.

Tim 2 cents O'Brien


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
 Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to
SVN?
 
 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
 
 Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.
 
  (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with
infra)
 
 Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
 
 --
 Martin Cooper
 
 
  Hen
 
  On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
  
   Phil
  
  
  
   Alex Karasulu wrote:
+1
   
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
   
6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
directory, or
leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What
 about the
website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted
 both.
   
   
   
   
   
The ideal scenario would be to use cvs delete on all the
sandbox
files, so that the original history is maintained there, but
 nobody
who checks out the sandbox (with -dP at least) will be
bothered
 by
the files.
   
   
   
The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.
 Can we
PLEASE consider doing so?
   
A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
migrating,
as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and
XML
 are
definitely the laggards now.
   
--- Noel
   
   
   
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Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-26 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:35:14 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Martin,
 
 I'm available if you need help.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

 One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:

Summarising my preferred versions of your alternatives, we might have:

jakarta/
  commons/
proper/
  ...
  digester/
branches/
tags/
trunk/
  ...
site/
  branches/
  tags/
  trunk/
sandbox/
  ...
  bzip2/
branches/
tags/
trunk/
  ...

This gives each component its own branches and tags, which makes more
sense to me than having Commons-wide tagging and branching. As
mentioned, it also makes 'site' its own thing, rather than pretending
that it's a component.

Comments?

--
Martin Cooper


 Commons Proper Components
 
 1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
 2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
 
 Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)
 
 1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
 2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
 
 Anybody have other options?
 
 I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me just wishes they
 had combined all velocity related modules under a velocity directory.
 If everything commons where under a commons directory, then we could
 have a separate directory for the commons site - something like
 /jakarta/commons/site.  site would then not be a sibling to a real
 project.
 
 Tim 2 cents O'Brien
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
  To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
  Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to
 SVN?
 
  On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
 
  Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.
 
   (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with
 infra)
 
  Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
 
  --
  Martin Cooper
 
 
   Hen
  
   On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
+1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
   
Phil
   
   
   
Alex Karasulu wrote:
 +1

 Noel J. Bergman wrote:

 6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
 directory, or
 leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What
  about the
 website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted
  both.





 The ideal scenario would be to use cvs delete on all the
 sandbox
 files, so that the original history is maintained there, but
  nobody
 who checks out the sandbox (with -dP at least) will be
 bothered
  by
 the files.



 The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.
  Can we
 PLEASE consider doing so?

 A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
 migrating,
 as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and
 XML
  are
 definitely the laggards now.

 --- Noel



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