RE: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-27 Thread Tim O'Brien
+/-0 for giving site "tags", "branches", and "trunk".  It might be nice
to have the site built from site/tags/PRODUCTION so we could have some
sort of a release cycle for the site, but (OTOH) it might be nice to
keep it simple and just have content under site.

Anyone?

Tim 

> -Original Message-
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:56 AM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Martin Cooper
> Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: 
> Migrate to SVN?
> 
> From a Jakarta level view, I really want to push for:
> 
> jakarta//
> 
> Other than that, I'll work with anything :)
> 
> (Which I just noticed Velocity haven't done, so will see if I 
> can get them to change).
> 
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:52:22 -0800, Martin Cooper 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:35:14 -0500, Tim O'Brien 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Martin,
> > >
> > > I'm available if you need help.
> > 
> > Thanks, I appreciate that.
> > 
> > > One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:
> > 
> > Summarising my preferred versions of your alternatives, we 
> might have:
> > 
> > jakarta/
> >   commons/
> > proper/
> >   ...
> >   digester/
> > branches/
> > tags/
> > trunk/
> >   ...
> > site/
> >   branches/
> >   tags/
> >   trunk/
> > sandbox/
> >   ...
> >   bzip2/
> > branches/
> > tags/
> > trunk/
> >   ...
> > 
> > This gives each component its own branches and tags, which 
> makes more 
> > sense to me than having Commons-wide tagging and branching. As 
> > mentioned, it also makes 'site' its own thing, rather than 
> pretending 
> > that it's a component.
> > 
> > Comments?
> > 
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Commons Proper Components
> > >
> > > 1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > > 2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > >
> > > Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)
> > >
> > > 1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > > 2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > >
> > > Anybody have other options?
> > >
> > > I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me 
> just wishes 
> > > they had combined all velocity related "modules" under a 
> velocity directory.
> > > If everything "commons" where under a commons directory, then we 
> > > could have a separate directory for the commons site - something 
> > > like /jakarta/commons/site.  "site" would then not be a 
> sibling to a 
> > > real project.
> > >
> > > Tim "2 cents" O'Brien
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
> > > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
> > > > Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? 
> Was: Migrate 
> > > > to
> > > SVN?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
> > > >
> > > > Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong 
> desire to do it.
> > > >
> > > > > (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, 
> liaise with
> > > infra)
> > > >
> > > > Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Martin Cooper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hen
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz 
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move 
> as a group.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > &g

Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-27 Thread Henri Yandell
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion exists by the way.

Hen

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:55:57 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From a Jakarta level view, I really want to push for:
> 
> jakarta//
> 
> Other than that, I'll work with anything :)
> 
> (Which I just noticed Velocity haven't done, so will see if I can get
> them to change).
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:52:22 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:35:14 -0500, Tim O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Martin,
> > >
> > > I'm available if you need help.
> >
> > Thanks, I appreciate that.
> >
> > > One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:
> >
> > Summarising my preferred versions of your alternatives, we might have:
> >
> > jakarta/
> >   commons/
> > proper/
> >   ...
> >   digester/
> > branches/
> > tags/
> > trunk/
> >   ...
> > site/
> >   branches/
> >   tags/
> >   trunk/
> > sandbox/
> >   ...
> >   bzip2/
> > branches/
> > tags/
> > trunk/
> >   ...
> >
> > This gives each component its own branches and tags, which makes more
> > sense to me than having Commons-wide tagging and branching. As
> > mentioned, it also makes 'site' its own thing, rather than pretending
> > that it's a component.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Commons Proper Components
> > >
> > > 1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > > 2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > >
> > > Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)
> > >
> > > 1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > > 2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > >
> > > Anybody have other options?
> > >
> > > I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me just wishes they
> > > had combined all velocity related "modules" under a velocity directory.
> > > If everything "commons" where under a commons directory, then we could
> > > have a separate directory for the commons site - something like
> > > /jakarta/commons/site.  "site" would then not be a sibling to a real
> > > project.
> > >
> > > Tim "2 cents" O'Brien
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
> > > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
> > > > Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to
> > > SVN?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
> > > >
> > > > Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.
> > > >
> > > > > (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with
> > > infra)
> > > >
> > > > Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Martin Cooper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hen
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>> 6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
> > > > > > >>>> directory, or
> > > > > > >>>> leave the folder and a note pointing to the promoti

Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-27 Thread Henri Yandell
>From a Jakarta level view, I really want to push for:

jakarta//

Other than that, I'll work with anything :)

(Which I just noticed Velocity haven't done, so will see if I can get
them to change).

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:52:22 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:35:14 -0500, Tim O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Martin,
> >
> > I'm available if you need help.
> 
> Thanks, I appreciate that.
> 
> > One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:
> 
> Summarising my preferred versions of your alternatives, we might have:
> 
> jakarta/
>   commons/
> proper/
>   ...
>   digester/
> branches/
> tags/
> trunk/
>   ...
> site/
>   branches/
>   tags/
>   trunk/
> sandbox/
>   ...
>   bzip2/
> branches/
> tags/
> trunk/
>   ...
> 
> This gives each component its own branches and tags, which makes more
> sense to me than having Commons-wide tagging and branching. As
> mentioned, it also makes 'site' its own thing, rather than pretending
> that it's a component.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> --
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Commons Proper Components
> >
> > 1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > 2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
> >
> > Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)
> >
> > 1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
> > 2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
> >
> > Anybody have other options?
> >
> > I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me just wishes they
> > had combined all velocity related "modules" under a velocity directory.
> > If everything "commons" where under a commons directory, then we could
> > have a separate directory for the commons site - something like
> > /jakarta/commons/site.  "site" would then not be a sibling to a real
> > project.
> >
> > Tim "2 cents" O'Brien
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
> > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
> > > Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to
> > SVN?
> > >
> > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
> > >
> > > Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.
> > >
> > > > (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with
> > infra)
> > >
> > > Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin Cooper
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hen
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> 6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
> > > > > >>>> directory, or
> > > > > >>>> leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What
> > > about the
> > > > > >>>> website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted
> > > both.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> The ideal scenario would be to use "cvs delete" on all the
> > sandbox
> > > > > >>> files, so that the original history is maintained there, but
> > > nobody
> > > > > >>> who checks out the sandbox (with "-dP" at least) will be
> > bothered
> > > by
> > > > > >>> the files.
> > > > > >

Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-26 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:35:14 -0500, Tim O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin,
> 
> I'm available if you need help.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

> One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:

Summarising my preferred versions of your alternatives, we might have:

jakarta/
  commons/
proper/
  ...
  digester/
branches/
tags/
trunk/
  ...
site/
  branches/
  tags/
  trunk/
sandbox/
  ...
  bzip2/
branches/
tags/
trunk/
  ...

This gives each component its own branches and tags, which makes more
sense to me than having Commons-wide tagging and branching. As
mentioned, it also makes 'site' its own thing, rather than pretending
that it's a component.

Comments?

--
Martin Cooper


> Commons Proper Components
> 
> 1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
> 2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
> 
> Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)
> 
> 1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
> 2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
> 
> Anybody have other options?
> 
> I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me just wishes they
> had combined all velocity related "modules" under a velocity directory.
> If everything "commons" where under a commons directory, then we could
> have a separate directory for the commons site - something like
> /jakarta/commons/site.  "site" would then not be a sibling to a real
> project.
> 
> Tim "2 cents" O'Brien
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
> > Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to
> SVN?
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
> >
> > Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.
> >
> > > (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with
> infra)
> >
> > Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >
> > > Hen
> > >
> > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>>> 6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
> > > > >>>> directory, or
> > > > >>>> leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What
> > about the
> > > > >>>> website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted
> > both.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> The ideal scenario would be to use "cvs delete" on all the
> sandbox
> > > > >>> files, so that the original history is maintained there, but
> > nobody
> > > > >>> who checks out the sandbox (with "-dP" at least) will be
> bothered
> > by
> > > > >>> the files.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.
> > Can we
> > > > >> PLEASE consider doing so?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
> > > > >> migrating,
> > > > >> as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and
> XML
> > are
> > > > >> definitely the laggards now.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- Noel
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> ---
> > --
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> > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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RE: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-26 Thread Tim O'Brien
Martin,

I'm available if you need help.

One thing to flesh out is structure - here are some proposals:

Commons Proper Components

1. /jakarta/commons/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]
2. /jakarta/commons/proper/digester/[tags|branches|trunk]

Commons Sandbox Components (just using bzip2 because it is there)

1. /jakarta/commons-sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]
2. /jakarta/commons/sandbox/bzip2/[tags|branches|trunk]

Anybody have other options?

I look at the existing velocity project, and part of me just wishes they
had combined all velocity related "modules" under a velocity directory.
If everything "commons" where under a commons directory, then we could
have a separate directory for the commons site - something like
/jakarta/commons/site.  "site" would then not be a sibling to a real
project.

Tim "2 cents" O'Brien


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:11 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell
> Subject: Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to
SVN?
> 
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?
> 
> Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.
> 
> > (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with
infra)
> 
> Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)
> 
> --
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> > Hen
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>>> 6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
> > > >>>> directory, or
> > > >>>> leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What
> about the
> > > >>>> website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted
> both.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> The ideal scenario would be to use "cvs delete" on all the
sandbox
> > > >>> files, so that the original history is maintained there, but
> nobody
> > > >>> who checks out the sandbox (with "-dP" at least) will be
bothered
> by
> > > >>> the files.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.
> Can we
> > > >> PLEASE consider doing so?
> > > >>
> > > >> A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
> > > >> migrating,
> > > >> as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and
XML
> are
> > > >> definitely the laggards now.
> > > >>
> > > >> --- Noel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
---
> --
> > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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Re: Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-26 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:27 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?

Sure, I'll step up, unless someone else has a strong desire to do it.

> (which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with infra)

Yep, I expect I'll be doing all three at once. ;-)

--
Martin Cooper


> Hen
> 
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > >
> >  6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
> >  directory, or
> >  leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What about the
> >  website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted both.
> > 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> The ideal scenario would be to use "cvs delete" on all the sandbox
> > >>> files, so that the original history is maintained there, but nobody
> > >>> who checks out the sandbox (with "-dP" at least) will be bothered by
> > >>> the files.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.  Can we
> > >> PLEASE consider doing so?
> > >>
> > >> A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
> > >> migrating,
> > >> as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and XML are
> > >> definitely the laggards now.
> > >>
> > >> --- Noel
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Volunteer for SVN migration management? Was: Migrate to SVN?

2004-11-26 Thread Henri Yandell
Do we have a volunteer to organise the move of Commons to SVN?

(which is probably some combination of: vote, plan, liaise with infra)

Hen

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:54:37 -0500, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +1 from me as well -- seems to make sense to move as a group.
> 
> Phil
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> Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> >
>  6) should I just delete the /jakarta-commons-sandbox/email
>  directory, or
>  leave the folder and a note pointing to the promotion?  What about the
>  website as well?  I think for [configuration] we just deleted both.
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> >>> The ideal scenario would be to use "cvs delete" on all the sandbox
> >>> files, so that the original history is maintained there, but nobody
> >>> who checks out the sandbox (with "-dP" at least) will be bothered by
> >>> the files.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> The IDEAL situation would be to convert Jakarta Commons to SVN.  Can we
> >> PLEASE consider doing so?
> >>
> >> A lot of projects, including the HTTP Server project, have been
> >> migrating,
> >> as can be seen from http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.  Jakarta and XML are
> >> definitely the laggards now.
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> >> --- Noel
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