I don't dispute that CategorizationBot is enormously useful and has
accomplished great things for Commons. I'm just saying that the user
talkpage notices are a nag and are annoying. Combined with all the other
bot and userscript notices, it creates an environment that is better
described as "aggressive" and "bitey" than "friendly" or "welcoming".
And I don't imagine that I'm the only person who has this opinion.
Unfortunately, most of these notices are necessary by policy, but
categorization notices aren't. So I think it would be better for
CategorizationBot's user talkpage notices to be opt-in rather than
opt-out. I'm sorry if I came across as being dismissive of your work.
That certainly wasn't my intention. Your work is extremely important to
Commons. I just didn't say that because I thought it was obvious :)
Ryan Kaldari
On 2/28/11 1:53 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> Op 22-2-2011 21:06, Ryan Kaldari schreef:
>
>> Speaking of friendliness on Commons, does CategorizationBot really need
>> to post notices on both the File pages and User Talk pages? Maarten?
>>
> Yes. People tend not the notice things left on file pages. This way they
> do notice.
>
>
>> This seems overly aggressive to me.
>>
> Aggressive? What's aggressive? The fact that a user is kindly invited to
> help out or the message itself?
> A user is asked to help out because we're always low on people helping out.
> The message is at
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Please_link_images . If you
> don't like it, be bold and make it a better message.
>
> My categorization project started somewhere in 2008. I was tired on
> stumbling upon uncategorized files. A lot of great photo's, but
> impossible to find. So first I wrote something to find all uncategorized
> files and tag them. Next step was to try to find categories for these
> images. At some point I started notifying people to try to get them
> involved. I don't know if it helped, what I do know is that the number
> of uncategorized files is pretty stable around (100K) and that my bot
> helped categorize over 200K files (probably even more). The full
> statistics are at
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Categorization_stats
>
> The exact workings of the bot and frequently asked questions about the
> bot are at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CategorizationBot . I
> try to update this page based on the questions I get. Might be worth
> reading.
>
> I don't consider it very friendly to dismiss my work as aggresive ;-)
>
> Maarten
>
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