RE: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 November 2002 23:30 --On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:34:00 -0800 Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org' web site. Currently, some people have their apache homepage on www.apache.org/~name and some on cvs.apache.org/~name and some don't have it. I have the same concerns as Justin. I'm not to keen on this idea: -0. Sander
Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:30:24PM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:34:00 -0800 Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org' web site. +1 Currently, some people have their apache homepage on www.apache.org/~name and some on cvs.apache.org/~name and some don't have it. I'm -0 on the proposal for the following reason: what happens when someone places something inappropriate on their website? While I know we're all reasonably sane adults, I've run enough 'community' websites to get fed up with morons complaining about potentially offensive comments one of our users posted. Even worse, when people place infringing code/music/pictures, +1 on having a usage policy. I'd suggest anything not blatantly illegal. I end up being the bad guy shutting the account down. I don't appreciate it when someone does that. (Comments that we don't assume liability for the content doesn't assuage an irate moron - they'll still complain.) Then the people behind [EMAIL PROTECTED] should investigate killfiles.. I don't see this as a strong counterargument. I'm about as a strong proponent of free speech as there is, but this has the propensity to snowball into a bureaucratic nightmare. I'd rather people only have ASF-related stuff on their 'personal' ASF website, or a redirect/link to their 'official' non-ASF site. I'd guess most people don't have a stable place to host a 'personal' website, other than some place like geocities. I don't see how this coincides with the goals of the ASF. It puts a face to otherwise faceless committers, making the community stronger. Alternatively.. Let's abandon all this wishy-washy 'community' guff and focus on what matters: the code. As Coding Machines, I say each new committer be assigned a serial number by which they are addressed publicly. With luck, we can eliminate any trace of this 'individuality' that dilutes the Apache brandname. --CM029476 IMHO, each project (or sub-project) should have a page that lists all frequent contributors with a link to their preferred page (this is what HTTP Server and a few other projects do). For HTTP Server, some people have pictures and (not-so) witty comments on the 'contributors' page. (Note: on infrastructure@, Stephen brought up ASF-wide blogs - my reply was essentially the same as this.) -- justin
Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: +1 on the alias. 0 on the content suggestion (I don't think we should vote on what people put on their page, certainly make it a strong suggestion -- I don't actually how people botch my name ;-) ) I totally agree with Andrew: +1 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ Please place your vote. Thank you. Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Wir benachrichtigen Sie uber neue E-Mails, wo immer Sie mochten. WEB.DE FreeMail - http://freemail.web.de/features/?mc=021186
Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: (Note: on infrastructure@, Stephen brought up ASF-wide blogs - my reply was essentially the same as this.) -- justin That's _Steven_, so now we are pretty sure we need that .au file and some phonetical representation of each committers' name! ;-D /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: http://community.apache.org/~name and http://www.apache.org/~name http://cvs.apache.org/~name are automatically redirected there. +1 That page should be hosted on your public_html directory on your cvs.apache.org account (all committers have one, unlike www.apache.org where only a few do) +1 I agree that there should be some usage policy. Maybe something which should be handled by the Infrastructure Team? /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: CLA for nacho@apache.org
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:31, André Malo wrote: * Henri Gomez wrote: What's a CLA ? Contributor License Agreement, see http://incubator.apache.org/forms/ASF_Contributor_License_2_form.pdf nd, who didn't filled it yet...is it a must or may or what? It's a must (or should be a must) for all committers. -- Cheers, Peter Donald militant agnostic: i don't know, and you don't know either.
Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that all apache homepages will be hosted at http://community.apache.org/~name +1, although I would prefer a shorter name like people that was proposed at some time. I've make a dream : http://name.apache.org/ ie: http://remm.apache.org/ http://costin.apache.org/ http://pier.apache.org/ http://acoliver.apache.org/ ;-)
Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
* Henri Gomez wrote: I've make a dream : yes... http://name.apache.org/ ...a nightmare ;-) nd -- Treat your password like your toothbrush. Don't let anybody else use it, and get a new one every six months. -- Clifford Stoll (found in ssl_engine_pphrase.c)
Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org
+1 People would be something else than a name or an email address ;). Eric. Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Dear ASF citizens, I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org' web site. Currently, some people have their apache homepage on www.apache.org/~name and some on cvs.apache.org/~name and some don't have it. This creates fragmentation and confusion. I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that all apache homepages will be hosted at http://community.apache.org/~name and http://www.apache.org/~name http://cvs.apache.org/~name are automatically redirected there. - o - These homepages should at least contain: 1) short bio 2) picture (possibly funny) 3) sound file with the person pronouncing their name (so hopefully people will stop mispronouncing names! like mine, for example!) 4) interests and projects currently worked on. It doesn't matter how you come up with that page/pages as long as it's reasonably valid HTML. That page should be hosted on your "public_html" directory on your cvs.apache.org account (all committers have one, unlike www.apache.org where only a few do) - o - Also, you might want to check out a little project about community visualization using dynamic SVG I've been working on http://www.apache.org/~stefano/community/ note that you need a SVG-capable browser in order to view it in all its splendor. Please, read also the docs that explain what it is and why I wrote it and what it the long-term goal. Please place your vote. Thank you. -- eMahoo Cordialement, Eric SCHAEFFER eMahoo 1 rue de la digue 78 600 Maisons-Laffitte http://www.emahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]