RE: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Sander Striker
 From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 November 2002 23:30

 --On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:34:00 -0800 Stefano Mazzocchi 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org' web
 site.

 Currently, some people have their apache homepage on www.apache.org/~name
 and some on cvs.apache.org/~name and some don't have it.

I have the same concerns as Justin.  I'm not to keen on this idea: -0.

Sander



Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Jeff Turner
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:30:24PM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
 --On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:34:00 -0800 Stefano Mazzocchi 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org' web
 site.

+1

 Currently, some people have their apache homepage on www.apache.org/~name
 and some on cvs.apache.org/~name and some don't have it.
 
 I'm -0 on the proposal for the following reason: what happens when someone 
 places something inappropriate on their website?  While I know we're all 
 reasonably sane adults, I've run enough 'community' websites to get fed up 
 with morons complaining about potentially offensive comments one of our 
 users posted.  Even worse, when people place infringing 
 code/music/pictures,

+1 on having a usage policy.  I'd suggest anything not blatantly
illegal.

 I end up being the bad guy shutting the account down. 
 I don't appreciate it when someone does that.  (Comments that we don't 
 assume liability for the content doesn't assuage an irate moron - they'll 
 still complain.)

Then the people behind [EMAIL PROTECTED] should investigate
killfiles.. I don't see this as a strong counterargument.

 I'm about as a strong proponent of free speech as there is, but this has 
 the propensity to snowball into a bureaucratic nightmare.  I'd rather 
 people only have ASF-related stuff on their 'personal' ASF website, or a 
 redirect/link to their 'official' non-ASF site.

I'd guess most people don't have a stable place to host a 'personal'
website, other than some place like geocities.

 I don't see how this coincides with the goals of the ASF.

It puts a face to otherwise faceless committers, making the community
stronger.

Alternatively..

Let's abandon all this wishy-washy 'community' guff and focus on what
matters: the code.  As Coding Machines, I say each new committer be
assigned a serial number by which they are addressed publicly.  With
luck, we can eliminate any trace of this 'individuality' that dilutes the
Apache brandname.

--CM029476

 IMHO, each project (or sub-project) should have a page that lists all 
 frequent contributors with a link to their preferred page (this is what 
 HTTP Server and a few other projects do).  For HTTP Server, some people 
 have pictures and (not-so) witty comments on the 'contributors' page.
 
 (Note: on infrastructure@, Stephen brought up ASF-wide blogs - my reply was 
 essentially the same as this.)  -- justin


Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

+1 on the alias.  0 on the content suggestion (I don't think we should
vote on what people put on their page, certainly make it a
strong suggestion -- I don't actually how people botch my name ;-) )


I totally agree with Andrew: +1




Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
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 Please place your vote.

 Thank you.

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Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Steven Noels
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
(Note: on infrastructure@, Stephen brought up ASF-wide blogs - my reply 
was essentially the same as this.)  -- justin
That's _Steven_, so now we are pretty sure we need that .au file and 
some phonetical representation of each committers' name! ;-D

/Steven
--
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Outerthought - Open Source, Java  XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at  http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/
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Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Steven Noels
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
http://community.apache.org/~name
and
http://www.apache.org/~name http://cvs.apache.org/~name
are automatically redirected there.
+1
That page should be hosted on your public_html directory on your 
cvs.apache.org account (all committers have one, unlike
www.apache.org where only a few do)
+1
I agree that there should be some usage policy. Maybe something which
should be handled by the Infrastructure Team?
/Steven
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Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java  XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at  http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/
stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org


Re: CLA for nacho@apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:31, André Malo wrote:
 * Henri Gomez wrote:
  What's a CLA ?

 Contributor License Agreement, see
 http://incubator.apache.org/forms/ASF_Contributor_License_2_form.pdf

 nd, who didn't filled it yet...is it a must or may or what?

It's a must (or should be a must) for all committers.


-- 
Cheers,

Peter Donald

 militant agnostic: i don't know, and you don't know either.
 



Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Henri Gomez
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that 
all apache homepages will be hosted at

 http://community.apache.org/~name

+1, although I would prefer a shorter name like people that was 
proposed at some time.
I've make a dream :
http://name.apache.org/
ie:
http://remm.apache.org/
http://costin.apache.org/
http://pier.apache.org/
http://acoliver.apache.org/

;-)



Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread André Malo
* Henri Gomez wrote:

 I've make a dream :

yes...

 http://name.apache.org/

...a nightmare ;-)

nd
-- 
Treat your password like your toothbrush. Don't let anybody else
use it, and get a new one every six months.  -- Clifford Stoll

(found in ssl_engine_pphrase.c)


Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Eric SCHAEFFER




+1
People would be something else than a name or an email address ;).

Eric.

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Dear ASF
citizens, 
  
I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org' web
site. 
  
Currently, some people have their apache homepage on
www.apache.org/~name and some on cvs.apache.org/~name and some don't
have it. 
  
This creates fragmentation and confusion. 
  
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that all
apache homepages will be hosted at 
  
http://community.apache.org/~name 
  
and 
  
http://www.apache.org/~name 
http://cvs.apache.org/~name 
  
are automatically redirected there. 
  
 - o - 
  
These homepages should at least contain: 
  
1) short bio 
2) picture (possibly funny) 
3) sound file with the person pronouncing their name (so hopefully
people will stop mispronouncing names! like mine, for example!) 
4) interests and projects currently worked on. 
  
It doesn't matter how you come up with that page/pages as long as it's
reasonably valid HTML. 
  
That page should be hosted on your "public_html" directory on your
cvs.apache.org account (all committers have one, unlike www.apache.org
where only a few do) 
  
 - o - 
  
Also, you might want to check out a little project about community
visualization using dynamic SVG I've been working on 
  
http://www.apache.org/~stefano/community/ 
  
note that you need a SVG-capable browser in order to view it in all its
splendor. 
  
Please, read also the docs that explain what it is and why I wrote it
and what it the long-term goal. 
  
Please place your vote. 
  
Thank you. 
  


-- 
eMahoo

Cordialement,
Eric SCHAEFFER

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