Re: Playboy mirror logo?

2004-08-26 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:37 PM +1000 Ian Holsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

mirror.au.apache.org or something which just does a round robin on available
mirrors in the 'au' region.. that the downloader only sees
a 'apache' domain. but this would should be a 'global' change.. not just
for the mirrors some people don't like.
IMHO, DNS-based round-robin makes it harder to provide the ability to route 
around broken mirrors for three reasons:

1) harder to insert/remove them dynamically: mirrors.cgi can use our freshness 
metrics gathered by mirmon to only show mirrors that have updated since a 
particular time (we want this for sec releases)

2) we'd have to update DNS on every status change: mirrors go stale and we 
take them out of active list and insert them when the problem is fixed (this 
is automated right now by mirmon)

3) doesn't allow the user to avoid a mirror that is broken (but we haven't 
noticed yet); additionally, it provides the user the ability to select a 
mirror that they know is close to them or have a particularly good connection 
to.

My $.02.  -- justin
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Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 25 août 04, à 15:53, Sam Ruby a écrit :
...What Jim meant when he said that is that people should STOP saying 
things like I am begging you!! and God help us all., 
and START making concrete suggestions on how the policy itself should 
change...
So how about:
a) In principle, only logos from IT-related [1] entities are accepted
-1. First of all, what's non-IT company's fault so it gets discriminated 
like that? Are they somehow second class and do not deserve to be 
mentioned? Second of all, I just don't see any logical justification 
behind this suggestion.


b) Logos from other entities might be accepted if a vote among ASF 
members is more than X percent positive (suggest 80%)
we will take your bandwidth, thank you, but your logo too sucky to be 
ever shown on our page. That's not the message I'd like ASF to show to 
the world out there.

Vadim

In this way, the basic rule is simple and we still allow exceptions when 
they make sense to a large majority of the ASF members.

WDYT?
-Bertrand
[1] for example: IT companies, other open-source projects, universities, 
ISPs, gov agencies, etc.

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Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 25 août 04, à 15:53, Sam Ruby a écrit :
...What Jim meant when he said that is that people should STOP saying 
things like I am begging you!! and God help us all., 
and START making concrete suggestions on how the policy itself should 
change...

So how about:
a) In principle, only logos from IT-related [1] entities are accepted

-1. First of all, what's non-IT company's fault so it gets discriminated 
like that? Are they somehow second class and do not deserve to be 
mentioned? Second of all, I just don't see any logical justification 
behind this suggestion.


b) Logos from other entities might be accepted if a vote among ASF 
members is more than X percent positive (suggest 80%)

we will take your bandwidth, thank you, but your logo too sucky to be 
ever shown on our page. That's not the message I'd like ASF to show to 
the world out there.
I completely agree with Vadim.
if you don't like to download stuff from playboy.com don't. How hard 
is that?

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Stefano.
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Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-26 Thread Steven Noels
On 26 Aug 2004, at 15:18, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I completely agree with Vadim.
if you don't like to download stuff from playboy.com don't. How hard 
is that?
IIUC, the technical issue people are referring to is that the download 
page (and the dropdown list of servers to download from) won't appear 
at all because the string playboy features in it. Does this happen? 
Well: http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/archives/000513.html (10/2002)

(I do wonder if they are able to read this discussion, BTW).
So, *if* we find this to be a valid concern, we might ask PB to provide 
another hostname for it.

I do hope however no other mirror has a hostname featuring strings like 
private, or hustler, or penthouse or any other so-called dubious 
name in it (in which I have elaborated about my known list of adult 
magazines, I assume I haven't read them all), and many other words 
which such censoring software might recognize as NSFW.

All in all, this thread is becoming highly amusing. :-)
BTW, I'm still +1 on keeping the cluestick in our hands, and leave the 
situation like Erik installed it.

/Steven
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