Re: CA Server (Re: prc)

2009-06-17 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

  VeriSign Class 2 is 700USD/page per year IIRC.
 
  All the members to have Class2 *for free* would be reasonable.
  Plus, donated committers (e.g. 100USD) to have Class2
  would be reasonable as well.
 
 Tetsuya,
 
 So can I clarify. Do you expect the ASF to pay for some 300 Class 2
 certificates from Verisign?
 Then some further 1800 or more committer certificates?
 
 That is a staggeringly expensive project to even consider.  Even if
 they were donated to the ASF, that would be another component of an
 already bustling infrastructure metropolis, we are just not geared up
 for that yet.  That's not to say we couldn't be, but at the moment we
 are not.

There could be one way:
Members and committers: by the request, they can get
(Members: free / Committers: 100 - 200 USD/yr)

The best way would be -- as needless to say -- recruiting
VeriSign as a Plutinum Sponsor :-)


WDYT


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Re: CA Server (Re: prc)

2009-06-15 Thread Tony Stevenson


On 11 Jun 2009, at 00:53, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:


Plus,

I personally think that all the committers post to
anno...@apache.org etc. to use S/MIME.

I am no longer an individual sponsor (by
svn commit: r779649), so this is just IMHO:

# By the way, why there could be no emertus sponsor
# list? I donated to Python Software Foundation 4yrs ago
# and still remain my name listed on the web. I think it
# is rather Normal. Really Strange...

VeriSign Class 2 is 700USD/page per year IIRC.

All the members to have Class2 *for free* would be reasonable.
Plus, donated committers (e.g. 100USD) to have Class2
would be reasonable as well.


Tetsuya,

So can I clarify. Do you expect the ASF to pay for some 300 Class 2
certificates from Verisign?
Then some further 1800 or more committer certificates?

That is a staggeringly expensive project to even consider.  Even if
they were donated to the ASF, that would be another component of an
already bustling infrastructure metropolis, we are just not geared up
for that yet.  That's not to say we couldn't be, but at the moment we
are not.


Cheers,
Tony




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Re: CA Server (Re: prc)

2009-06-10 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Plus,

I personally think that all the committers post to
anno...@apache.org etc. to use S/MIME.

I am no longer an individual sponsor (by
svn commit: r779649), so this is just IMHO:

# By the way, why there could be no emertus sponsor
# list? I donated to Python Software Foundation 4yrs ago
# and still remain my name listed on the web. I think it
# is rather Normal. Really Strange...

VeriSign Class 2 is 700USD/page per year IIRC.

All the members to have Class2 *for free* would be reasonable.
Plus, donated committers (e.g. 100USD) to have Class2
would be reasonable as well. 

WDYT?

Tetsuya



 Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
  Seems that no response ... But don't care.
  
  MY Practical Proposal:
   Establishing CA Server in @apache.org 
  (For S/MINE, PGP etc.)
  
  The Apache Software Foundation has numerous faxes or papers from all
  of the committers at least, and they would be reliable. It's good idea for 
  me (and YOU)
  to establish CA Center (Server) in apache.
 
 AIUI the main problem is that there aren't (or weren't) any CA servers
 which did exactly what apache wanted.
 
 in general, apache tends to be use distributed trust models to avoid
 single points of failure. so, a CA would need to be secure and embody
 some of the same qualities.
 
 IIRC some folks started coding up a suitable application but i'm not
 sure why it never made it into use. a major use case was going to be
 managing client side certification for subversion access.
 
 AIUI infrastructure has been working hard implementing LDAP but that's
 just about completed. now might be a good time to ask them about the CA
 project.
 
 - - robert

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