FM Radio
Is there any FM radio support in Neo? Thanks, Ashok ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
VAT in India?
Anybody know about the VAT or import duty for neo in India? i am confused between GTA1 and GTA2. which version(user) is going to be released in september? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FM Radio
Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Is there any FM radio support in Neo? Thanks, Ashok Nope, it has no FM radio hardware. --- G O Jones ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FM Radio
Is there any FM radio support in Neo? Thanks, Ashok Nope, it has no FM radio hardware --- G O Jones Any plans of adding it in future? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?
Hi Can anyone tell me what are the changes between GTA1 and GTA2? Which version is going to be shipped as user release in september? Thanks, Ashok Kumar ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?
On 8/16/07, Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Can anyone tell me what are the changes between GTA1 and GTA2? Which version is going to be shipped as user release in september? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?
Hi, On 8/16/07, Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me what are the changes between GTA1 and GTA2? Please check the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Which version is going to be shipped as user release in september? GTA02 in September. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware_Developer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973#Phase_1_.28GTA01Bv4.29 SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VAT in India?
On Thursday 16 August 2007, Ashok Kumar wrote: Anybody know about the VAT or import duty for neo in India? i am confused between GTA1 and GTA2. GTA01 is the currently available version. GTA02 has extras such as a faster CPU and WiFi - see the wiki for the hardware details we have. which version(user) is going to be released in september? Our current understanding is that GTA02 will be released around September or October, but there has been no recent news on this. As we have seen before the release date may slip if things aren't ready in time. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?
On 8/16/07, Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Can anyone tell me what are the changes between GTA1 and GTA2? GTA02 adds: - graphics processor - wifi - accelerometers Probably some other stuff, but that's the big three Which version is going to be shipped as user release in september? GTA02 Thanks, Ashok Kumar ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?
Ashok Kumar wrote: Can anyone tell me what are the changes between GTA1 and GTA2? Which version is going to be shipped as user release in september? It's on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison -Steve ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
compilation of openmoko platform
Hi I am eager to develop some apps for neo. I was trying to compile openmoko platform using MokoMakefile. It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. still it did not finish. How long will it take to compile in an average system? I just read 7 hours somewhere. Did i forget somethings to do? Why is it taking so long to compile? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance -- Thanks, Ashok ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?
On 8/16/07, Steve Seltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ashok Kumar wrote: Can anyone tell me what are the changes between GTA1 and GTA2? Which version is going to be shipped as user release in september? It's on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison What is that sound column in that site? What sound they are talking about? Is that the sound in calls? why GTA2 supports only mono? -Steve ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Thanks, Ashok ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OSiM 2007: Talk schedule, and merchandise
Hi, 1. Can anyone from the OpenMoko team tell us as to which days at the OSiM 2007 event, and what time are your talks scheduled? Should we opt for the Developer Stream? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Current_events I couldn't find a detailed itinerary at their site: http://www.osimconference.com/newt/l/handsetsvision/osim/speakers.html 2. Are you planning any BOF sessions during the pre-workshop or post-workshop conference? 3. Can you folks arrange for some goodies (t-shirts, accessories etc.) that we can buy at the conference? Thanks, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?
On 16/08/07, Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/16/07, Steve Seltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ashok Kumar wrote: Can anyone tell me what are the changes between GTA1 and GTA2? Which version is going to be shipped as user release in september? It's on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison What is that sound column in that site? What sound they are talking about? Is that the sound in calls? why GTA2 supports only mono? It is standard for telephone systems to only provide mono sound for calls. I believe the reference here to stereo and mono is in regard to the playing media via the built in speakers etc. I think the second internal speaker was sacrificed to make room for other goodies or was considered un necessary given how close the speakers are together. Stereo will still be available with headphones and other headsets where supported by the headset. -Pete ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
On Thursday 16 August 2007, Ashok Kumar wrote: Hi I am eager to develop some apps for neo. I was trying to compile openmoko platform using MokoMakefile. It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. still it did not finish. How long will it take to compile in an average system? I just read 7 hours somewhere. Did i forget somethings to do? Why is it taking so long to compile? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance You don't say anything about your build environment so there's not a lot anyone can do to help. Were you using mokomakefile? The VMware image? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
On 8/16/07, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2007, Ashok Kumar wrote: Hi I am eager to develop some apps for neo. I was trying to compile openmoko platform using MokoMakefile. It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. still it did not finish. How long will it take to compile in an average system? I just read 7 hours somewhere. Did i forget somethings to do? Why is it taking so long to compile? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance You don't say anything about your build environment so there's not a lot anyone can do to help. Were you using mokomakefile? The VMware image? He's using mokomakefile (he says it), and i experienced similar issues on my P4 2.8GHZ 1024 Mbyte Ram, Ubuntu 7.04 and Zenwalk (don't remember wich one). -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org My dream, my world: http://abenu.wordpress.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
I was using mokomakefile in debian etch linux. first i gave the command make setup and then make openmoko-devel-image it just stood in the compilation of alsa-lib itself for hours. On 8/16/07, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2007, Ashok Kumar wrote: Hi I am eager to develop some apps for neo. I was trying to compile openmoko platform using MokoMakefile. It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. still it did not finish. How long will it take to compile in an average system? I just read 7 hours somewhere. Did i forget somethings to do? Why is it taking so long to compile? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance You don't say anything about your build environment so there's not a lot anyone can do to help. Were you using mokomakefile? The VMware image? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Thanks, Ashok ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How important is flashing U-Boot ?
How important is flashing u-boot, would it be recommended to flash u-boot with every new build ? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
Hi Checked your post. i did mount the swap partition when compiling that and in addition to that i have created 4GB s of swapfile. Before breaking that long compilation i checked the free memory the compilation process almost took all the RAM and around 3GB s of swap space! On 8/16/07, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. I had such an experience using Ubuntu Feisty. The issue was due to the swap partition which was not mounted. (If this is the issue you met, check the list about my previous post please for a possible fix). Best wishes, Gilles -- Oralux http://oralux.org -- Thanks, Ashok ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No softfloat?
Hi all, is anybody out there who could share a working kernel binary for the GTA01b4 with hardfloat compiled in? Many thanks, Nikolaus Schaller Am 15.08.2007 um 17:22 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 14.08.2007 um 19:43 schrieb Brian Brunswick: On 14/08/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there a simple module.o that I can load with lsmod? Rgds, Nikolaus I was the one originally noticing this. It looks like a kernel config change has been checked in to at least enable the hard float emulation in newer built versions. You will still find it hard to produce a common binary, since I am told that the hard and soft float formats are incompatible, so you can't dynamic link against any libraries for float operations. The Zaurus has hardfloat (i.e. FPU instruction emulation).That is why I though the emulator could be available as a loadable module. Where can I find binary kernel compiled with hardfloat (I have not the right environment and experience to do it myself)? Nikolaus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
On 8/16/07, Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am eager to develop some apps for neo. I was trying to compile openmoko platform using MokoMakefile. It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. still it did not finish. How long will it take to compile in an average system? I just read 7 hours somewhere. Did i forget somethings to do? Why is it taking so long to compile? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance Just check, it might have got stuck downloading something instead of compiling. What happens if you terminate the compilation and start again? regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
On Thursday 16 August 2007, ramsesoriginal wrote: On 8/16/07, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2007, Ashok Kumar wrote: Hi I am eager to develop some apps for neo. I was trying to compile openmoko platform using MokoMakefile. It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. still it did not finish. How long will it take to compile in an average system? I just read 7 hours somewhere. Did i forget somethings to do? Why is it taking so long to compile? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance You don't say anything about your build environment so there's not a lot anyone can do to help. Were you using mokomakefile? The VMware image? He's using mokomakefile (he says it), and i experienced similar issues on my P4 2.8GHZ 1024 Mbyte Ram, Ubuntu 7.04 and Zenwalk (don't remember wich one). Sorry, my mistake. Don't know how I missed that. Last time I did the build (some weeks ago now) on an Athlon64 X2 3800 with 1GB ram and 64bit Gentoo it took 12hrs to compile. I set it going in the evening and it was done the following morning so I don't know exactly how long it took. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open Hardware
I'm going to get a new laptop soon, and I would love to find one that is designed with the same dream in mind that drove the design of the Neo. Does such a thing exist? I'm not sure about the openness of the hardware, but check out the upcoming EeePC from Asus. It's what I've been waiting for for a ln gtime: basic computer, small screen, wifi, Linux, and only $200! Between the EeePC and the Neo, I'm going to broke but have my hands full of goodies! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
Hi, On 8/16/07, Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was using mokomakefile in debian etch linux. Not sure which steps you followed. Here are my HOWTOs for Debian Etch: http://free-opensource.qvantel.net/mediawiki/index.php/OpenMoko Regards, -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mailing list management
Nick Johnson wrote: On 8/16/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Aug 2007, at 00:07, Nick Johnson wrote: The list server is clearly the issue here, failing to accept messages in a timely fashion. It's only affecting GMail messages. I believe people with providers other than gmail (and not just those using google apps, like myself) have also reported issues. GMail is just less patient than most - it's still only an issue because the list server is taking a long time to respond. How long _should_ a mail server wait for a reply? Forever? Case in point - I just got a duplicate of your message. Maybe openmoko needs a new, faster mailserver? More mailserver bandwidth? Or how about a duplicate message filter at the list level? I've gotten at least 100 duplicates today, this is getting really old. I have a filter for removing duplicates in thunderbird, but it leaves the newest duplicate, so I'm having to 'mark as read' the same messages over and over. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
That's weird. It doesn't take me anywhere near that long. I never did get a working build that would load into qemu. Maybe I'm not getting everything built? I have an Athlon 64 3400+ with 2GB RAM and SATA hard-drives. It took maybe an hour or two to compile using the MokoMakefile. Maybe more RAM and faster HDs makes the difference? -Steven On 8/16/07, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2007, ramsesoriginal wrote: He's using mokomakefile (he says it), and i experienced similar issues on my P4 2.8GHZ 1024 Mbyte Ram, Ubuntu 7.04 and Zenwalk (don't remember wich one). Sorry, my mistake. Don't know how I missed that. Last time I did the build (some weeks ago now) on an Athlon64 X2 3800 with 1GB ram and 64bit Gentoo it took 12hrs to compile. I set it going in the evening and it was done the following morning so I don't know exactly how long it took. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FW: [newtech-1] RE: [nextNY] BarCamp NYC - kicking off again
Who's going to go and post the Open Moko topic for BarCampNYC3? It's only just been announced and there isn't even a date set yet but lets make sure we get a really big showing from the Open Moko users so we can spread the word about this really cool technology. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2007 1:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newtech-1] RE: [nextNY] BarCamp NYC - kicking off again Whoo Hooo I've been dieing for BarCampNYC 3 For those of you that didn't make it to BarCampNYC 2 here is a blog post with my perspective of the event http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/barcampnyc2.html It was fantastic and cant wait for the next one (unfortunately I'm in Chicago next week so wont be able to attend the planning session but will be happy to assist in finding some sponsorship funding when the time is right). As a way of kicking things off I spent about 30 minutes putting together the http://barcamp.org/BarCampNYC3 start page and made the first donation of $100. Great job for stepping up Rachel. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Clarke Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [nextNY] BarCamp NYC - kicking off again I've been talking to a few people over the last few weeks about Barcamp NYC 3. Hopefully many of you know about this or have attended in the past. If not, take a look round barcamp.org to get the flavour. After the first successes, it's about time New York had another ;) As it is easier to kick-start this with a face-to-face, I'm suggesting two meeting times for the next week to pull people together and move from there. Session 1: 2pm Sunday 19 August. Meet north-west corner of Bryant park, inside park. (corner of 42nd and 6th) Session 2: 6pm Wednesday Wednesday 22 August. Meet north-west corner of Bryant park, inside park. (corner of 42nd and 6th) Two sessions will hopefully mean that people can make 1of them. I'll make both to co-ordinate initial volunteers. Jobs to be done include (but not limited to) * co-ordination * sponsorship * venue * food sourcing * budget management * equipment management * Logo design * T-shirt obtaining * set up people If you want to be involved in the organising, come to one of the sessions (If you can't make the sessions, let me know which area you'd like to work in). If you want to be involved but don't have the time to work in the planning, we also look for volunteers on the day to help set things up, a little bit of wrangling and then close everything down. regards Rachel -- http://blog.bibrik.com http://behindthebuzz.com US Mobile: 917-215-2225 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo Sound and USB Questions
Hi List! I've got a few questions as I'm a little bit confused about some issues. (Also have no Neo to test it myself) First of all, what about the soundcard the Neo provides. Is it a good one or some kind of cheap hardware, designed for phone-call-quality sound output? (And is it sterio or not) I guess the AUX-Port on the Neo is a 3,5mm (or maybe 2,5mm) TRS Connector (german: Klinkenstecker) used often for Headsets (4 connectors instead of 3 as usual). If so, is it still usable for an external amplifier? Let's assume the soundcard is no good. So it should be possible to use a external USB Soundcard with crazy-high-definition-whatever-output, to make the Neo giving me crystal clear sounds, right? (I think you need that external powered USB hub then...) Is it possible to use the external soundcard and charge the Neo the same time? Or use an external USB harddisk, the soundcard and still charge the Neo? Well, for what do I need all that information? I want to use the Neo as sound system in my car, and therefor need all this stuff ;) Thanks for any suggestion! Daniel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?
Am I the only one who's getting this annoying duplicates of e-mails? If so, sorry for the off-topic. Otherwise, can someone fix this? Daniel Peter A Trotter wrote: It is standard for telephone systems to only provide mono sound for calls. I believe the reference here to stereo and mono is in regard to the playing media via the built in speakers etc. I think the second internal speaker was sacrificed to make room for other goodies or was considered un necessary given how close the speakers are together. Stereo will still be available with headphones and other headsets where supported by the headset. -Pete ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Message duplicates (was: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?)
On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 07:39:36PM +0200, thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am I the only one who's getting this annoying duplicates of e-mails? If so, sorry for the off-topic. Otherwise, can someone fix this? This is something that has been happening off-and-on for a while. It seems to me likely to be something misconfigured in the lists.openmoko.org software, but so far no admin has responded to requests for debugging help. I have sent a couple of messages to this list about it (most recently on July 24th), and if a list admin is available to work together I am still able and willing to help debug from the Gmail end (where many, but not all, duplicate messages have their origin). However, after next week (8/23 or so) I will not be in a position to be able to help. (List admins: if you're willing to help, please see my email on 7/24 with subject Duplicate message troubleshooting, including the forwarded 7/13 message, for what I need.) Marco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions
El jue, 16-08-2007 a las 19:19 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: First of all, what about the soundcard the Neo provides. Is it a good one or some kind of cheap hardware, designed for phone-call-quality sound output? The chipset is a WM8753 from Wolfson Microelectronics. Acording with their website: The WM8753L is a low power, high quality stereo Codec with integrated PCM CODEC designed for portable digital telephony applications such as mobile phone, or headset with Hi-Fi playback capability. More info: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/ (And is it sterio or not) Yes, it is stereo. I guess the AUX-Port on the Neo is a 3,5mm (or maybe 2,5mm) TRS Connector (german: Klinkenstecker) used often for Headsets (4 connectors instead of 3 as usual). If so, is it still usable for an external amplifier? It is 2,5mm. And yes, I think that there is no problem to use an external amplifier. Let's assume the soundcard is no good. So it should be possible to use a external USB Soundcard with crazy-high-definition-whatever-output, to make the Neo giving me crystal clear sounds, right? Right. Is it possible to use the external soundcard and charge the Neo the same time? Or use an external USB harddisk, the soundcard and still charge the Neo? Sorry, I don't know if this is possible. But I think that it is. Well, for what do I need all that information? I want to use the Neo as sound system in my car, and therefor need all this stuff ;) Hey! If you someday make this sound system for your car, please share with us some docs/photos/anything ;) Cheers, -- Santiago Crespo signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List! I've got a few questions as I'm a little bit confused about some issues. (Also have no Neo to test it myself) First of all, what about the soundcard the Neo provides. Is it a good one or some kind of cheap hardware, designed for phone-call-quality sound output? (And is it sterio or not) I guess the AUX-Port on the Neo is a 3,5mm (or maybe 2,5mm) TRS Connector (german: Klinkenstecker) used often for Headsets (4 connectors instead of 3 as usual). If so, is it still usable for an external amplifier? The soundcard is IMO, fairly good. It's more 'CD' quality than phone call, and is stereo. Search on audio subsystem on the wiki. You can in principle use a powered hub, and a external USB soundcard. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duplicate message troubleshooting
Hi Marco, I think that the best way to solve this is opening a bug in the bugzilla.openmoko.org system, select Site Infraestructure and then Lists: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Site%20Infrastructure Nobody has reported this yet: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=product=Site+Infrastructurecomponent=Listslong_desc_type=allwordssubstrlong_desc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=changedin=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cmdtype=doitnewqueryname=order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timefield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= Thanks! El mar, 24-07-2007 a las 13:14 -0700, Marco Barreno escribió: Messages to the list are being duplicated again. Some of the messages are from Gmail, but not all (e.g. some are from kostyrka.org and cnlohr.com). I can try to help debug the problem from the Gmail end if an admin on the list machine can send me verbose SMTP logs; please see below for details. Harald or Sean, can one of you send detailed logs? Anyone else? Some Gmail message IDs with duplicated messages today: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Marco - Forwarded message from Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:36:57 -0700 To: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: gmail.com problems and this list Hi everyone, Short version: It seems the duplicated messages are not just a Gmail problem: mails are also being duplicated from starband.net and possibly others as well, so it seems the problem is likely something on the openmoko side that only happens to cause duplicates with some sending domains and not others. I'ts also not consistent; some messages from Gmail and starband.net are duplicated while others aren't. I've checked with the Gmail team, and the duplicated messages from Gmail are happening because Gmail doesn't receive the SMTP OK from the openmoko list server, so it retransmits because it thinks the messages don't get delivered. To debug further, an admin on the list machine needs to enable verbose SMTP logging if it's not already enabled and provide information about if/when the OK is sent. Here are some example message IDs for which the logs would be useful: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] If verbose logging isn't already enabled, however, enabling it and then sending logs for any future duplicated messages would work too. Detailed version: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:14:03PM -0700, thus spake Wolfgang S. Rupprecht: At least one of the opemoko machines at 88.198.124.203 opens an smtp connection back to the sending domain to verify the sender address of any incoming message. The smtp-back machine has messed up DNS. The claimed rDNS for that IP is openmoko.org but the forward DNS check for that openmoko.org doesn't list 88.198.124.203 as a valid address. If the sending machine is checking for spammers claiming a bunk DNS name will reject 88.198.124.203's SMTP verify. The opemmoko machine will then interpret that failed smtp verify attempt as the verified address not existing and will decline the initial incoming transfer. Even ignoring the messed-up DNS for the moment, doing an SMTP callback is not a good way to check existence of an email account. For one thing, whenever a spammer spoofs a From address in an innocent domain, that domain can get bombarded with callbacks. For another thing, spammers sometimes use RCPT commands themselves to check existence of email addresses, so ISPs are likely to consider many such requests to be abusive behavior. In the case of a large ISP (such as Gmail), if a lot of email is sent to a destination that does callbacks, the frequency of callbacks can trigger abuse prevention measures. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_verification for more drawbacks. (In particular, note: If a server receives a lot of spam, it will do a lot of callbacks and if those addresses are invalid, the server will look very similar to a spammer who is doing a dictionary attack to harvest addresses. This in turn might get the server blacklisted elsewhere.) For these reasons, Gmail strongly recommends avoiding callbacks and instead checking SPF records (Sender Policy Framework, provided via DNS) to verify that the mail is indeed coming from Google (i.e. the SMTP connection is coming from an IP authorized to send email on behalf of Google). However, in this case it does not seem that the problem was caused by
Re: Open Hardware
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Derek Potts wrote: Something occurred to me the other day... I was thinking about how great it will be to have this phone that has an almost completely open hardware arch. Then it struck me, I'll have a phone that is more open than any laptop I've ever owned! I'm going to get a new laptop soon, and I would love to find one that is designed with the same dream in mind that drove the design of the Neo. Does such a thing exist? What kind of laptops do the open-hardware-purists on this list own? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'm very happy with my Lenovo T60. I would have been happier with a T61, for the same price, but they didn't have any in stock. Important lesson learned: There are so many variations, that hardly any are stocked. When you make your selections of CPU, video device, ram, etc., one is built for you. Thus the lead time is almost always a couple of weeks. If you are in a rush, like I was, you are forced to select from the very few off-the-shelf options. Lesson: Don't wait until the last minute. The Thinkpad series is rock-solid. I've owned some 5 different models and have been happy with every one of them. Thinkpads are well supported in the Linux community via websites (e.g. thinkwiki) and mailing lists (e.g. ltp - linux thinkpads). Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duplicate message troubleshooting
Good idea. I'll do that later today if I don't get a direct response from an admin. Marco On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 08:25:42PM +0200, thus spake Santiago Crespo: Hi Marco, I think that the best way to solve this is opening a bug in the bugzilla.openmoko.org system, select Site Infraestructure and then Lists: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Site%20Infrastructure Nobody has reported this yet: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=product=Site+Infrastructurecomponent=Listslong_desc_type=allwordssubstrlong_desc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=changedin=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cmdtype=doitnewqueryname=order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timefield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= Thanks! El mar, 24-07-2007 a las 13:14 -0700, Marco Barreno escribi??: Messages to the list are being duplicated again. Some of the messages are from Gmail, but not all (e.g. some are from kostyrka.org and cnlohr.com). I can try to help debug the problem from the Gmail end if an admin on the list machine can send me verbose SMTP logs; please see below for details. Harald or Sean, can one of you send detailed logs? Anyone else? Some Gmail message IDs with duplicated messages today: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Marco - Forwarded message from Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:36:57 -0700 To: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: gmail.com problems and this list Hi everyone, Short version: It seems the duplicated messages are not just a Gmail problem: mails are also being duplicated from starband.net and possibly others as well, so it seems the problem is likely something on the openmoko side that only happens to cause duplicates with some sending domains and not others. I'ts also not consistent; some messages from Gmail and starband.net are duplicated while others aren't. I've checked with the Gmail team, and the duplicated messages from Gmail are happening because Gmail doesn't receive the SMTP OK from the openmoko list server, so it retransmits because it thinks the messages don't get delivered. To debug further, an admin on the list machine needs to enable verbose SMTP logging if it's not already enabled and provide information about if/when the OK is sent. Here are some example message IDs for which the logs would be useful: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] If verbose logging isn't already enabled, however, enabling it and then sending logs for any future duplicated messages would work too. Detailed version: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:14:03PM -0700, thus spake Wolfgang S. Rupprecht: At least one of the opemoko machines at 88.198.124.203 opens an smtp connection back to the sending domain to verify the sender address of any incoming message. The smtp-back machine has messed up DNS. The claimed rDNS for that IP is openmoko.org but the forward DNS check for that openmoko.org doesn't list 88.198.124.203 as a valid address. If the sending machine is checking for spammers claiming a bunk DNS name will reject 88.198.124.203's SMTP verify. The opemmoko machine will then interpret that failed smtp verify attempt as the verified address not existing and will decline the initial incoming transfer. Even ignoring the messed-up DNS for the moment, doing an SMTP callback is not a good way to check existence of an email account. For one thing, whenever a spammer spoofs a From address in an innocent domain, that domain can get bombarded with callbacks. For another thing, spammers sometimes use RCPT commands themselves to check existence of email addresses, so ISPs are likely to consider many such requests to be abusive behavior. In the case of a large ISP (such as Gmail), if a lot of email is sent to a destination that does callbacks, the frequency of callbacks can trigger abuse prevention measures. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_verification for more drawbacks. (In particular, note: If a server receives a lot of spam, it will do a lot of callbacks and if those addresses are invalid, the server will look very similar to a spammer who is doing a dictionary attack to harvest addresses. This in turn might get the server blacklisted elsewhere.) For these reasons, Gmail strongly recommends avoiding callbacks and instead checking SPF records
Re: Duplicate message troubleshooting
On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 20:25 +0200, Santiago Crespo wrote: Nobody has reported this yet: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=product=Site+Infrastructurecomponent=Listslong_desc_type=allwordssubstrlong_desc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=changedin=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cmdtype=doitnewqueryname=order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timefield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= Look at this bug: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=710 -- Daniel Mewes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Phone: 0800 DAMEWES (3263937; from inside Germany, I call back) Mobile: +49 (0) 160 8577603 Pager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko Flasher-1.2 (was: Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X)
There is a new version of OpenMoko Flasher: http://wiki.openmoko.org/ wiki/MacOS_X#Flashing_to_your_device New features: * supports multiple parallel downloads * added progress bar(s) * shows console output of dfu-util directly in a Text View * separately remembers which package has been flashed as kernel, rootfs etc. * problem solved with kernel flashing (see below) NOTE: after flashing a different kernel (e.g. Linux 2.6.21.6-moko11/ s3c2410_udc), you will have to configure AJZaurusUSB again. Am 08.08.2007 um 19:01 schrieb Igor Foox: Hi, I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it into the rootfs partition instead of the kernel partition. I currently don't have access to a computer running linux natively, so I can't use dfu- util directly. Any suggestions on how to get a new kernel on the device? Thanks, Igor ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duplicate message troubleshooting
El jue, 16-08-2007 a las 20:46 +0200, Daniel Mewes escribió: On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 20:25 +0200, Santiago Crespo wrote: Nobody has reported this yet: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=product=Site+Infrastructurecomponent=Listslong_desc_type=allwordssubstrlong_desc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=changedin=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cmdtype=doitnewqueryname=order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timefield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= Look at this bug: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=710 Correct, I saw it, but thought that it isn't related. -- Santiago Crespo signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
AW: compilation of openmoko platform
. be in touch. wait 2 hours again. i use a SUN grid system (6 CPUs)- just 1.5 hours cy Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 16.08.2007 11:01 An: community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: compilation of openmoko platform Hi I am eager to develop some apps for neo. I was trying to compile openmoko platform using MokoMakefile. It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. still it did not finish. How long will it take to compile in an average system? I just read 7 hours somewhere. Did i forget somethings to do? Why is it taking so long to compile? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance -- Thanks, Ashok ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko Flasher-1.2 (was: Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X)
I will give this a try, probably on the weekend. Thanks! Igor On 8/16/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a new version of OpenMoko Flasher: http://wiki.openmoko.org/ wiki/MacOS_X#Flashing_to_your_device New features: * supports multiple parallel downloads * added progress bar(s) * shows console output of dfu-util directly in a Text View * separately remembers which package has been flashed as kernel, rootfs etc. * problem solved with kernel flashing (see below) NOTE: after flashing a different kernel (e.g. Linux 2.6.21.6-moko11/ s3c2410_udc), you will have to configure AJZaurusUSB again. Am 08.08.2007 um 19:01 schrieb Igor Foox: Hi, I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it into the rootfs partition instead of the kernel partition. I currently don't have access to a computer running linux natively, so I can't use dfu- util directly. Any suggestions on how to get a new kernel on the device? Thanks, Igor ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mailing list management
Karsten Ensinger wrote: Maybe you should switch to this (or improve your configuration): https://removedupes.mozdev.org/ I use this extension to thunderbird with success. The suggestion of the extension seems to contain some smart algorithms. The already read messages are preselected for keep and the new ones get deleted. Yes, much better than the regular remove duplicates extension. Thanks for the tip. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions
These are really good news, you put me in good humor! :) (Thank you too, Ian) Last important thing is the charging over USB while the external hard disk is connected. Hope someone of the device owners could test this ;) Ahh, and what about that USB port? I remember a thread but I'm not sure: Does the Neo have a USB 1.1 Port? All I found on the wiki was - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_DFU Do we have an upgradeable USB 1.1 port? Or what does it mean? Hey! If you someday make this sound system for your car, please share with us some docs/photos/anything ;) Be sure, mate, you'll get that docs/pictures/anything when it's done. (Probably the first thing I'll do with GTA2) And you'll be the first to get the link to the source code, for my application to get some engine data, like oil temperature, oil pressure, and everything my board electricity gives me to put on that screen :) Have to stop dreaming now, these ideas drive me crazy... (Think of getting rid of all buttons you ever used in your car) Greetings, Daniel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions
These are really good news, you put me in good humor! :) (Thank you too, Ian) Last important thing is the charging over USB while the external hard disk is connected. Hope someone of the device owners could test this ;) Ahh, and what about that USB port? I remember a thread but I'm not sure: Does the Neo have a USB 1.1 Port? All I found on the wiki was - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_DFU Do we have an upgradeable USB 1.1 port? Or what does it mean? Hey! If you someday make this sound system for your car, please share with us some docs/photos/anything ;) Be sure, mate, you'll get that docs/pictures/anything when it's done. (Probably the first thing I'll do with GTA2) And you'll be the first to get the link to the source code, for my application to get some engine data, like oil temperature, oil pressure, and everything my board electricity gives me to put on that screen :) Have to stop dreaming now, these ideas drive me crazy... (Think of getting rid of all buttons you ever used in your car) Greetings, Daniel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are really good news, you put me in good humor! :) (Thank you too, Ian) Last important thing is the charging over USB while the external hard disk is connected. That's a matter of cabling. Hope someone of the device owners could test this ;) The host mode kernel driver isn't quite there yet. Ahh, and what about that USB port? I remember a thread but I'm not sure: Does the Neo have a USB 1.1 Port? yes. All I found on the wiki was - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_DFU Do we have an upgradeable USB 1.1 port? Or what does it mean? That's just a way of doing reflashing. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone know how we can get the GTA02 onto this program? It seems like we would be a natural fit, as GTA02 has Wi-Fi. Can any one just contact T-Mobile about it and apply for developer status and say that we want to be a part of the Hotsopt at Home program? Thanks. Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mailing list management
i hate this idea of adding tags to the subject: line. there is nothing wrong with checking 'any header' for community@lists.openmoko.org and if its found, put it in its own folder. If you can search for a [subjectag], you can search for an email address: thus, [subjecttag] is redundant, unnecessary, and clutters the subject information, which ought to be better used as it is .. j. On Aug 14, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Casey Harkins wrote: Dean Collins wrote: I do run filtering in Outlook - but I run it on subject - less processor intensive. How is filtering on subject less processor intensive than using mailing list headers? And thanks Casey - I also subscribe to about 5 or 6 other lists and they all have subject prefixes as well (and much larger more frequent lists than openmoko) I also subscribe to a large number of other lists and only 2 of the 20 or so have subject prefixes (one of them is the openmoko announce list). It's a little thing but it's silly not to get this fixed sooner rather than later - especially as in the very near time frame I imagine that FIC will need to have a number of different lists (newbies, experts, apps, developers, commercial) etc I disagree that there is anything to be fixed. Munging the subject line or reply to fields would be breaking things rather than fixing them. There are a number of ways to distinguish mailing list messages from each other without munging the subject line. I don't want to start a holy war on this as I've seen many in the past. However, I've yet to see a convincing argument that justifies the use of subject munging and numerous convincing arguments that it is a bad thing a prone to breaking. If it is the will of the community, I'll deal with it. -casey ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: mailing list management
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 03:29:33PM -0400, hank williams wrote: [...] A bad idea that most other high volume mailing lists do. [...] A bad idea that most other high volume mailing lists do. [...] 50 billions of flies eat shit, they can't be wrong... The majority doesn't always now the best way to do things. (most of net users actually prefer ugly web forum to mailing-list or nntp news...) Tom -- Thomas Lavergne Le vrai rêveur est celui qui rêve de l'impossible. (Elsa Triolet) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://reveurs.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Message duplicates (was: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?)
On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 11:06:42AM -0700, Marco Barreno wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 07:39:36PM +0200, thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am I the only one who's getting this annoying duplicates of e-mails? If so, sorry for the off-topic. Otherwise, can someone fix this? This is something that has been happening off-and-on for a while. It seems to me likely to be something misconfigured in the lists.openmoko.org software, but so far no admin has responded to requests for debugging help. It's actually a crashing spamassassin, which then causes the DATA section of an incoming SMTP transfer to time out, which again causes some sending email servers, such as gmail, who have a short timeout, to transfer the message again. And 'some mail admin' is unfortunately just me. -- - Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/ Software for the world's first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wish List - OpenMoko Sounds
I've just created Wish_List_-_OpenMoko_Sounds wiki page, a collection of free music/sounds we'd like to listen in the next Neo release (ringtones, other sounds...) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_OpenMoko_Sounds Places to find free music and sounds, licensed in a way that allows free redistribution, such as creative commons by, by-nd, by-sa, gpl, public domain, etc. (and allows commercial purposes?): o A good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_music o http://www.jamendo.com : a LOT of free music, with tags o http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/tagsView.php : a LOT of free sounds, with tags Cheers, -- Santiago Crespo signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bug 256, gsmd sudden death and making phone calls
I just got my Neo today (order 2579) and flashed it with openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01-20070813013449.rootfs.jffs2 uImage-2.6.21.6-moko11-r1_0_0_2688_0-fic-gta01.bin gsmd started up, but by the time I could ssh into the phone, gsmd was not running. (I wish it would write a log. /etc/init.d/gsmd says it uses syslog, but I don't have any log files in /var/log, just wtmp. syslogd is running.)Then I saw the symptoms of bug 256 - I tried connecting manually via cu, and did not see the prompt. Did stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 crtscts and turned the radio off and on again and got in via cu and saw a corrupted prompt. Then I was able to manually send commands to register on the network, dial a call etc. Then I tried gsmd, tested the shell for a while. Eventually gsmd died. I had that happen several times. Well I just rebooted and tried to ssh in as quickly as possible. gsmd started (it said success on the console too) and I got in and saw gsmd running: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps | grep gsm 1143 root588 S gsmd -p /dev/ttySAC0 -s 115200 -F 1229 root532 R grep gsm then immediately after that, it was no longer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ libgsmd-tool -m shell libgsm-tool - (C) 2006 by Harald Welte This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Can't connect to gsmd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps | grep gsm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ This time I restarted it manually and so far it is still running. A couple times when I managed to make an outgoing call (to my land line), on the land line I heard periodic beeps, as if the Neo was trying to connect to a fax. Otherwise I have no audio getting through in either direction, but I haven't farted around with the mixer long enough to be sure that's an actual problem. The status bar does not show connected state (just shows an antenna icon with a question mark). But the dialer app works if I restart X after having restarted gsmd. gsmd just died again. Do I have a hardware problem, or is everybody seeing this sort of flakiness? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bug 256, gsmd sudden death and making phone calls
I can also reproduce bug 705, and I found the log in /tmp/gsm.log so I posted it on bugzilla. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
