Order from Pulster
Hello List! I wrote directly to pulster two days ago, but received no answer so far. Maybe something went wrong with the mail delivery. Has anybody else who ordered from the first bunch of (cheaper offer for 299 EUR) not received it yet? I received an e-mail from Pulster that they would be getting a new bunch of devices on August 15, and that I would get one of them. I already transferred the money, and two days ago wrote the email to pulster, but I received neither an answer nor the freerunner. Wolfgang. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Order from Pulster
Wolfgang Silbermayr wrote: Hello List! I wrote directly to pulster two days ago, but received no answer so far. Maybe something went wrong with the mail delivery. Has anybody else who ordered from the first bunch of (cheaper offer for 299 EUR) not received it yet? Yes, we're still waiting as well (just for a bigger pack..). I just hope they are busy sending out our packages.. Vlado I received an e-mail from Pulster that they would be getting a new bunch of devices on August 15, and that I would get one of them. I already transferred the money, and two days ago wrote the email to pulster, but I received neither an answer nor the freerunner. Wolfgang. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Order from Pulster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I received mine on 14th Aug, from Pulster. All went fine. Wolfgang Silbermayr wrote: Hello List! I wrote directly to pulster two days ago, but received no answer so far. Maybe something went wrong with the mail delivery. Has anybody else who ordered from the first bunch of (cheaper offer for 299 EUR) not received it yet? I received an e-mail from Pulster that they would be getting a new bunch of devices on August 15, and that I would get one of them. I already transferred the money, and two days ago wrote the email to pulster, but I received neither an answer nor the freerunner. Wolfgang. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq8ZCSIAU/I6SkT0RAoTuAJ9bv9ZLfhuSABnfOSUo4elBKUOlCACfXmWV HVupl/mOKe7Fg9tz92pbVGw= =W4xX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Order from Pulster
Hello Wolfgang, that sounds untypically for me. I've ordered by Pulster too and they always responded to mails within minutes to hours. Ive got the same E-Mail too ;-) but my Freerunner arrived last week. regards Bernhard On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Wolfgang Silbermayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List! I wrote directly to pulster two days ago, but received no answer so far. Maybe something went wrong with the mail delivery. Has anybody else who ordered from the first bunch of (cheaper offer for 299 EUR) not received it yet? I received an e-mail from Pulster that they would be getting a new bunch of devices on August 15, and that I would get one of them. I already transferred the money, and two days ago wrote the email to pulster, but I received neither an answer nor the freerunner. Wolfgang. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq8e1SIAU/I6SkT0RAqo1AJwI04jgGSdSawmU77c1iWNr+rW11ACfZiBY vhwPVLKU9fAieaexBEpcLYk= =TjfK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
Le mardi 19 août 2008 à 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley a écrit : Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I just tried to install it on the µSD Card, following the indications from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot_from_sd_card. I'm running into a quite serious problem when I try to boot it : I'm getting a Enlightenment SEGved... followed by qpe process vanished The crash window is nice enough to offer me to press F1 or F2 though... I installed the files from http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/. It's my first attempt at installing something on the µ SDcard so maybe I did something wrong there. Any ideas ? Thanks for your help, Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
How could you make distinction about that? Should the client check a box for saying they are enthusiast? I think that, since it seems that Qtopia has some problems too, the FR should come with their branded software, the one that is intended to be used in the future. The product is not readied for normal consumer, and I think that normal consumer are not buying it anyway. IMHO, of course. And calling you anormal was not my intention, of course. Is 'next batch of Freerunners' referring to further units destined for developers and enthusiasts, or units targeting consumers? For the former: I'd think OM2008.08, 'opkg upgrade'd past a few irritations, with developer-friendly keyboard (g) and Terminal. These people should easily be up to the task of flashing to whatever they wish, though a tool (ncurses and gui lin/win) to manage flashing, store and index possibly multiple backups, etc would be handy. For the latter: Qtopia, with a one-click 'installer' on CD or thumbdrive that lets user backup flash to desktop, flash OM2008.08 from media, look for newest OS images on net, etc. If OM2008.08 has acquired a bit more maturity, I'd consider it for consumers, with Qtopia being the default interface the user sees, but not just Qtopia apps accessible in the installer. j On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:00:48 -0700, Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was actually an option we considered. Michele Renda wrote: Ship with nothing and everyone put what want So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) steve wrote: Good question. Here are the options. 1. Ship with 2007.2. Basicaly a dialer that works. bare bones phone. 2. Ship with Qtopia. A solid full featured smart phone. 3. Ship with OM2008.8 An alpha release of our future phone. discuss. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Charles Pax *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2008 12:24 PM *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion *Subject:* Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release Will this be shipping with the next batch of Freerunners? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Order from Pulster
Wolfgang Silbermayr wrote: Hello List! I wrote directly to pulster two days ago, but received no answer so far. Maybe something went wrong with the mail delivery. Has anybody else who ordered from the first bunch of (cheaper offer for 299 EUR) not received it yet? I received an e-mail from Pulster that they would be getting a new bunch of devices on August 15, and that I would get one of them. I already transferred the money, and two days ago wrote the email to pulster, but I received neither an answer nor the freerunner. Wolfgang. I just received a confirmation from Pulster that my freerunner is on the way. I can't wait to finally get the device in my hands. Greetings, Wolfgang. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:03:30 +0200 julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Le mardi 19 août 2008 à 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley a écrit : Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I just tried to install it on the µSD Card, following the indications from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot_from_sd_card. I'm running into a quite serious problem when I try to boot it : I'm getting a Enlightenment SEGved... followed by qpe process vanished The crash window is nice enough to offer me to press F1 or F2 though... I installed the files from http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/. It's my first attempt at installing something on the µ SDcard so maybe I did something wrong there. Any ideas ? i have never tested any of this on an sd-card, i actually don't know how to take a .jffs2 image i built and make it sd-card usable, so i don't know what may have been broken in running it from sd-card (converting to ext2 etc.). the only way i have ever tested is reflash onto nand. as that is the actual intended usage and target... you should try that. :) -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
I have a sandisk 8gb card, and it works just fine. I seem to recall reading somewhere that 8gb was the biggest a FR could handle? or was it that 8gb is the biggest that is known to work? what means fine exactly? - no bootsector corruption? - no sudden data corruption? - lost card on resume? if so, which kernel are you using? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:03 AM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 19 août 2008 à 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley a écrit : Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I just tried to install it on the µSD Card, following the indications from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot_from_sd_card. I'm running into a quite serious problem when I try to boot it : I'm getting a Enlightenment SEGved... followed by qpe process vanished The crash window is nice enough to offer me to press F1 or F2 though... I installed the files from http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/. It's my first attempt at installing something on the µ SDcard so maybe I did something wrong there. Any ideas ? Thanks for your help, Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I had the exact same problem when I tried to boot om2008.8 for the first time I formatted my fat and ext2 partition again and populated the SD then it worked fine I don't have a cardreader so I do it all on the FR itself, I have notiiced that after running fdisk it sometimes fails to update the partition table don't know if it is related though. My guess is that if you try again it will work :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko wanted :: 10th Linux Day Dornbirn (Austria) November 29th 2008
Hi openmoko community My name is Sacha Schlegel and I am helping the Linux User Group Vorarlberg (Austria) organising the 10th! LinuxDay in Dornbirn Austria, on November 29th 2008 [1]. First congratulations to the success of OpenMoko and the start of sale of Neo Freerunner! For the one day LinuxDay we are looking for * OpenMoko presentations and * an OpenMoko booth where you can present OpenMoko and demo the phone The Call for papers can be found here: [2] To contact the organisers regarding a presentation or booth please send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope to see the OpenMoko Project at the 10th LinuxDay in Dornbirn. Kind regards Sacha Schlegel sacha at schlegel dot li [1] http://www.lugv.eu/ [2] http://www.lugv.eu/cfp.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? El mar, 19-08-2008 a las 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley escribió: Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I think Raster mentioned that it can accept any dictionary file for the predictive part of the keyboard, and you can easily switch dictionaries with the top left button. (Not to mention there is a full qwerty keyboard option included! Terminal friendly ASU!) Anyway, I just wanted to comment that with it, and several other recent programs, I was able to very easily connect to a wifi network (via terminal), connect my bluetooth keyboard, and chat in the #openmoko IRC room via pidginand it worked great! I've also used this image for a couple days as my main phone and it seems to be pretty stable and usable. It wakes up out of suspend on phone calls and with the usual mods to the gsmhandset.state file, it sounds fine. To see pics and descriptions of what I used, see here: http://www.bufferunderflow.com/?entry=6 (Remember, Raster gets all the credit! I'm just trying to spread the good word about the image!) -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:05:42 +0200 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: as i said before. - it's a clash between illume's and qtoia's keyboard. the qtopia keyboard isn't disabled - it just happens to take a back-seat to illume's. when you install apps e/illume pick up he changes and actually re-evaluate keyboard (because they keyboard system CAN also execute another keyboards, so if you just uninstalled your keyboard app it's executing it should now shut it down). so it's just that qtopia (qpe) hasn't given up trying to create a keyboard. illume picks it up as it happens to have a keyboard window around before illume re-creates its own and thus it jumps the queue to be in front. it's not worth going and patching/changing illume to work around this. what i need/want to do myself is move to FSO with illume/e work and get full swing behind the FSO infrastructure and work on the UI front end for FSO and it has a definite future and is being done right. :) When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? El mar, 19-08-2008 a las 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley escribió: Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I think Raster mentioned that it can accept any dictionary file for the predictive part of the keyboard, and you can easily switch dictionaries with the top left button. (Not to mention there is a full qwerty keyboard option included! Terminal friendly ASU!) Anyway, I just wanted to comment that with it, and several other recent programs, I was able to very easily connect to a wifi network (via terminal), connect my bluetooth keyboard, and chat in the #openmoko IRC room via pidginand it worked great! I've also used this image for a couple days as my main phone and it seems to be pretty stable and usable. It wakes up out of suspend on phone calls and with the usual mods to the gsmhandset.state file, it sounds fine. To see pics and descriptions of what I used, see here: http://www.bufferunderflow.com/?entry=6 (Remember, Raster gets all the credit! I'm just trying to spread the good word about the image!) -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:12:03 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How could you make distinction about that? Should the client check a box for saying they are enthusiast? He said that it would depend on who the Openmoko team thinks is the target group. I'd +1 the ship FR without any images idea. That would send out a pretty clear message. Because seriously, letting Joe Sixpack easily use the device every day is still many months away. By then, you can retarget your device to normal consumers. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You are very right :) Before I tried with the shipped SD card (512Mb): I arrived to install Debian + Pidgin and 3 Mb remaining !!! So... if someone want to try install a lot of application, I think he need a bigger micro SD. I used a 2Gb one (Kingston 12.90 Eur) but I think it can run well also with a simple 1 GB Micro SD. Thank you for the precisation!!! David Samblas wrote: Only as an advice to the rest to no be dissapointed like me, Michele's intructions are not 512 Sd card compatible ... I have to buy a bigger one as soon as posible :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq+VhSIAU/I6SkT0RAjqUAJ9goBTIHywPBmIH0PkmGOB81iQ9qACgj+Hl 0gEnal/2C1RWJfkaoE+5x+8= =BPPS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
I have a sandisk 8gb card, and it works just fine. I seem to recall reading somewhere that 8gb was the biggest a FR could handle? or was it that 8gb is the biggest that is known to work? Or wasn't it, that it's the biggest micro SD card that exists on the market as of now? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:25, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sandisk 8gb card, and it works just fine. I seem to recall reading somewhere that 8gb was the biggest a FR could handle? or was it that 8gb is the biggest that is known to work? what means fine exactly? - no bootsector corruption? - no sudden data corruption? - lost card on resume? if so, which kernel are you using? I have just bought a Sandisk mobile Ultra 8GB . ( C8151033340SX ) Looks like I have the problem on resume. I copied (on my laptop, via 'cp ...') the installs I had on the 512MB one : 1 4gb FAT partition with the uImage.bin (one for each other partition) 1 512mb ext3 partition with qtopia (0808 release from qtopia.net) 1 512mb ext3 partition with 2008.8 rootfs But I have now more partitions (and these 2 ext3 ones are logical ones now, and recognized as mmcblk0p5 and mmcblk0p6 instead of mmcblk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 before -can I change that ?-, so I had to change uboot menu...) My installs still work ok, except that when the phone suspends, I cannot resume at all. So yes the card is probably not remounted correctly. I will try with from my NAND installed 2007.2, if after resume, it works ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:25 AM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 20 août 2008 à 10:28 +0200, Yorick Moko a écrit : I had the exact same problem when I tried to boot om2008.8 for the first time I formatted my fat and ext2 partition again and populated the SD then it worked fine I just tried it : the problem is still there I don't have a cardreader so I do it all on the FR itself, I did it on my card reader My guess is that if you try again it will work :) I wasn't so lucky. If you still have your tar.gz file, could you give me its md5sum ? I don't know if that's relevant though. Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Sorry, I deleted the tar.gz file, and I haven't tried the image raster provided; I installed the official Om2008.08 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
1 4gb FAT partition with the uImage.bin (one for each other partition) why is that? 4gb just to host the kernels is ... waste. But I have now more partitions (and these 2 ext3 ones are logical ones now, and recognized as mmcblk0p5 and mmcblk0p6 instead of mmcblk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 before -can I change that ? by repartitioning -- but first you better post the output of fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 and describe what exactly you're aiming at. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 13:04 +1000, Dale Maggee wrote: so I tried: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/navit# /etc/init.d/gpsd start and got: Starting gpsd: No GPS device, aborting gpsd startup. Check /etc/default/gpsd The line in /etc/default/gpsd needs to read (for freerunner): GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 Then gpsd should start and tangoGPS too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 21:04 (-0400), Joel Newkirk wrote: With 2008.08 when I plug in any simple (IE single USB device, no extraneous lighted keys) keyboard it is functional, and the onscreen keyboard silently goes away as long as it's plugged in. Would you tell me which version of xserver-kdrive-glamo you're using? Thx, /Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
X gesture would be cool. Stroller wrote: Great! Thanks for the info. This seems to give applications devs lots of potential. Any chance of you adding shakes to the gestures? This would be ideal for the ball bearings in a tin can style of unread email message-count. I was about to say any chance of you adding shaking to the gestures? but after I waving my hand around like an idiot it seems to me that one's natural movement is not to shake with the randomness I initially assumed. Instead, if I wanted to hear quantity of messages in my inbox, I would instinctively shake quickly right- and-returning-leftwards two to four times. This adds the opportunity to shake forward and back a couple of times for number of SMS messages or for battery fullness (I like the Glasgow Uni's idea of using a splashing sound for that). (Just read your subsequent posts - I'm glad to read that gestures can easily be taught to the device. But you also ask for suggested gestures, so I think these above would be useful. I envision them to be made quite rapidly.) Stroller. On 11 Aug 2008, at 17:46, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: The fact that is currently undocumented is all my fault. Sorry for that - I'll catch up this weekend. Till then, I have to work on the release. Yes, there are 2 daemons, one that processes the gestures and sends signals on dbus, and a listener daemon that listens for gestures and runs the actions for each gesture. I'm slightly disappointed that the shaking inbox wouldn't be accommodated by the gestures you've made available. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/11/shoogle_gives_your_cellphone_b.html ... A casual search doesn't reveal how your work is supposed to integrate on the device. Presumably it's a library or daemon which is intended to fulfil all gesturing requests from all other apps? Will it be easy to add new gestures? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Order from Pulster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vladimir Koutny wrote: I just received a confirmation from Pulster that my freerunner is on the way. I can't wait to finally get the device in my hands. Right, I've already received the confirmation, too. X-mas by end of August this year? ;) Since I receive my confirmation by Pulster, it took only two day to Italy (inclusive the day of the confirmation). Ok, I was lucky becouse I live in a big city, but I think in a few of day it will arrive to you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrAQPSIAU/I6SkT0RAgMcAKCv99wOYibZLq9K7hKqxQpi6r6gaACfePFo ryBvrqiabcwxc36pSeb8vdY= =m+aG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available
I have created an unofficial auto-builder for the FSO distribution at http://shr.bearstech.com (hosting of the server is provided by Bearstech - I have no relationship with Bearstech other than managing the auto-builder that runs on the server they have provided for this purpose). The server currently contains continuous builds of the fso-testing and fso-unstable distributions for the OpenMoko GTA01 (Neo 1973) and GTA02 (Neo FreeRunner). In the future it will also contain continuous builds of the shr-testing and shr-unstable distributions. The fso-testing and fso-unstable distributions are built from the org.openembedded.dev branch of the git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev.git repository. Both are built with DISTRO set to 'openmoko' and MACHINE set to sequentially to 'om-gta01' and 'om-gta02'. The fso-testing distribution builds the versions of packages specified in the preferred-om-2008-versions.inc file and the sane-srcrevs.inc file. A key feature of the fso-testing distribution is that the package versions do not change unless by direct action of developers to update those files. The intention is that this results in a recent set of packages that have undergone some rudimentary testing by the developers. The fso-unstable distribution allows a certain set of packages (defined in the moko-autorev.inc and fso-autorev.inc files) to 'float', and therefore is more likely to have the absolute latest version of any package, but also more likely to include versions of packages that do not not work and sometimes do not even build. The set of packages built is determined by contents of the task-openmoko-feed recipe in the OpenEmbedded repository. Build results are reported continuously to the oestats server at http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builders/shr.bearstech.com/ All source tarballs used can be found in the sources directory on the server. Note that images that are rebuilt multiples times on the same day are overwritten. The server operates in the CEST timezone. To replicate the configuration of this server, you should use a Debian Lenny host operating system, with the host package configuration as specified in the sources.list and dpkg-list.txt files in the server-config directory. Then copy the Makefile and 'common' directory to your build area. Read the Makefile for further documentation and instructions. -- Rod Whitby -- MokoMakefile and FsoMakefile author ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)
xserver-kdrive-glamo - 1:1.3.0.0+git2839+4067470ea4d569bae7b4161ca998645a0c9b96e7-r6 - OM2008.08 pointing at Zecke testing feeds, 'opkg update'd daily. j On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:58:15 +0200, Benito Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 21:04 (-0400), Joel Newkirk wrote: With 2008.08 when I plug in any simple (IE single USB device, no extraneous lighted keys) keyboard it is functional, and the onscreen keyboard silently goes away as long as it's plugged in. Would you tell me which version of xserver-kdrive-glamo you're using? Thx, /Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available
That's pretty cool, Rod -- thanks a lot. Now keep the patches rolling in, folks ;) -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)
There is at the moment a very nasty bug on the phone software of ASU and FSO images. Basically most of the time (more than 9 out of 10) you can't get the phone registered after the PIN code is entered. This means you can't make a call but strangely you can always receive calls. Sometimes (quite often) you get registered after receiving a call and receiving the call while in suspend mode seems to make you a little luckier but maybe it's just wishful thinking. Some suggestions were made (upgrade with http://people.openmoko.org/zecke/qtopia-testing feeds) but didn't fix the problem. I never add any problem regarding registration with 2007.2 and still don't have any with the latest Qtopia image. I could stick with Qtopia for the time being but would very much test ASU. Could it be possible to somehow get from the Qtopia image the right files/packages/whatever to just fix the telephony part ? Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
wsod, can i help?
the wsod is starting to drive me nuts. it makes the phone unusable if you want to use suspend and if you don't use suspend, battery life is pretty bad. this is nothing new. i've read the two bugs in trac on it and it looks like there is some progress on why it happens but not much on how to fix it. since i can get this to happen after pretty much every suspend, i was wondering if there is anything i can do to help. contact me with any steps i should try, useful information on my setup, etc. thanks, -peter -- Peter Abplanalp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Official update feeds testing on downloads.openmoko.org
Hi, I've just noticed on a new testing repository on downloads.openmoko.org [1]. Are that the official update feeds for ASU or another distribution? Is the merge of the two branches finished? Should I use this repo instead of the zecke repo now? Thanks for answers. Kev [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:50, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by repartitioning -- but first you better post the output of fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 result of fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 (from 2007.2 booted from NAND ): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8168 MB, 8168931328 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 993 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 536 4305388+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/mmcblk0p2 863 993 1052257+ 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p3 537 862 2618595 5 Extended /dev/mmcblk0p5 537 601 522081 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p6 * 602 666 522081 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p7 667 731 522081 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p8 732 796 522081 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p9 797 862 530113+ 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order Ok so my last partition is the second in partition table (mmcblk0p2). Then the extended one containing the 5 logical is mmcblk0p3. * can I change this table order without losing partition data ? * can I have Extended partition number (mmcblk0p3 now) to be after the logical ones (so that mmcnlk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 refer to the 2 first logical ones, -just the same as in my 512MB card-) ? What is funny on my ubuntu laptop is that mount points are not always in the same order. I have to be carefull ! (of course I can fix mount points once for all on my pc -and also access rights for ext3-, but when I plug the card in another PC, I have the problem back...) On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:45, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:28, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, it's not. but your description is rather confusting: 1 primary fat 5 extended ext3 1 primary ext3 i can't quite imagine how your partition table looks like. 5 logical. Here I only have pc on windows : as seen on XP : (ext3 not recognized) http://cedricberger.free.fr/partitions.png ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 21:30 +0930, Rod Whitby wrote: I have created an unofficial auto-builder for the FSO distribution at http://shr.bearstech.com (hosting of the server is provided by Bearstech - I have no relationship with Bearstech other than managing the auto-builder that runs on the server they have provided for this purpose). ... -- Rod Whitby -- MokoMakefile and FsoMakefile author Thanks for the very clear explanation what these repositories are. digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:41, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:25, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what means fine exactly? - no bootsector corruption? - no sudden data corruption? - lost card on resume? if so, which kernel are you using? I have just bought a Sandisk mobile Ultra 8GB . ( C8151033340SX ) Looks like I have the problem on resume. My installs still work ok, except that when the phone suspends, I cannot resume at all. So yes the card is probably not remounted correctly. I will try with from my NAND installed 2007.2, if after resume, it works I confirm both problems of card not mounted on resume, and partition table corruption (resp. 1st suspend and 2nd suspend) : NAND 2007.2 can resume (except that it was so long I was about to post that it failed to), but the card is indeed on /dev/mmcblk1 now ! (and no more mounted) And if I go to suspend a second time... it is back on /dev/mmcblk0 , but : ~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8168 MB, 8168931328 bytes 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 249296 cylinders Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes Disk /dev/mmcblk0 doesn't contain a valid partition table Ouch this time my partition table really have to be fixed :-p !! On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 15:31, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: result of fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 (from 2007.2 booted from NAND ): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8168 MB, 8168931328 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 993 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 536 4305388+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/mmcblk0p2 863 993 1052257+ 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p3 537 862 2618595 5 Extended /dev/mmcblk0p5 537 601 522081 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p6 * 602 666 522081 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p7 667 731 522081 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p8 732 796 522081 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p9 797 862 530113+ 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Actually, you don't need to launch xfce4-desktop. just launch xfce4-panel, then zhone, or vice versa. The onscreen keyboard works *much* better that way. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:28:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq8e1SIAU/I6SkT0RAqo1AJwI04jgGSdSawmU77c1iWNr+rW11ACfZiBY vhwPVLKU9fAieaexBEpcLYk= =TjfK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Attached is another version of cofigure-uboot.sh. This version can 'only' be run from inside booted freerunner (requires fso-utils which debian already has). Maybe, the choice of external execution or execution from inside debian be a parameter to the scriptbut I am just too lazy :) --Vikas On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Am Freitag, den 15.08.2008, 22:31 +0200 schrieb arne anka: The feeds are for the debian system if I understand you right. But how do I install these packages without beeing able to boot debian from the sd card ? Should I install that in the openmoko flash image (currently 2008.08)? the tools are to be used on your host computer, i think. Correct. The pkg-fso feed works both on i386 and armel, and the fso-utils package makes also sense on i386, for the remote flashing. It maybe also works from the phone itself (see the unused uboot stage of install.sh), but I had weird problems. Bold people with a craze for debugging are welcome to make that work. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeatahttp://people.debian.org/%7Enomeata ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community configure-uboot.sh Description: Bourne shell script ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
* can I change this table order without losing partition data ? nope. * can I have Extended partition number (mmcblk0p3 now) to be after the logical ones (so that mmcnlk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 refer to the 2 first logical ones, -just the same as in my 512MB card-) ? nope. the logicla partitions are inside the extended partition -- numbers have to be bigger than the number of the extended partition. if you like partition number independent identifiers use labels -- either when creating the xt2 fs or afterwards with tune2fs, argument -L. What is funny on my ubuntu laptop is that mount points are not always in the same order. I have to be carefull ! (of course I can fix mount points once for all on my pc -and also access rights for ext3-, but when I plug the card in another PC, I have the problem back...) you probably need to fix the udev script that creates the mount points. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With the problem with the onscreen keyboard, I solved keeping the keyboard closed when booting, and opening it only after the boot. It is the only little bug I saw until now! Ps: using Network Nanager 0.6 I am not able to saw neither wifi or usb0 connection. Someone had success on it? (for usb0 i know thet Network Manager 0.7 support it :) xaos x wrote: Actually, you don't need to launch xfce4-desktop. just launch xfce4-panel, then zhone, or vice versa. The onscreen keyboard works *much* better that way. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:28:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrCXfSIAU/I6SkT0RAsWXAJ9rxkrsXKmfNNJFowRHIhpQa1fLgACfWLfu Vieus40zlLPvPD5XEq1zUbs= =wV68 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
Thanks ! Anyway my partition table is now crashed thanks to suspend/resume issue. I go digging in mailing list, I think I saw ways to recover... else I'll have to start from 0... On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 16:05, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * can I change this table order without losing partition data ? nope. * can I have Extended partition number (mmcblk0p3 now) to be after the logical ones (so that mmcnlk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 refer to the 2 first logical ones, -just the same as in my 512MB card-) ? nope. the logicla partitions are inside the extended partition -- numbers have to be bigger than the number of the extended partition. if you like partition number independent identifiers use labels -- either when creating the xt2 fs or afterwards with tune2fs, argument -L. What is funny on my ubuntu laptop is that mount points are not always in the same order. I have to be carefull ! (of course I can fix mount points once for all on my pc -and also access rights for ext3-, but when I plug the card in another PC, I have the problem back...) you probably need to fix the udev script that creates the mount points. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Is there an ETA on illume being packaged? Is there anything that can be done to help? On Saturday 16 August 2008 10:14:24 Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Samstag, den 16.08.2008, 11:22 +0200 schrieb arne anka: So now people, let's write a page that lists some cool (read: recommended or so..) apps that you can run on debian here :) i am far more intersted to switch to a useful desktop manager and still to be able to use the phone part. at least i'd like to know how i do access installed applications, zhone only presents that four predefined buttons. Until we can package Illume, you can use the AUX button to fire up a keyboard and then press Alt-Ctrl-X to get an xterm and Alt-Tab to switch between application. Greetings, Joachim -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
I could recover the data by creating the same paritioning and then re-downloading the kernel in the first partition (one of teh post suggested that the bug actually eats up a sector from the first partition as wellI didn't check and downloading the kernel was pretty easy). --Vikas On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks ! Anyway my partition table is now crashed thanks to suspend/resume issue. I go digging in mailing list, I think I saw ways to recover... else I'll have to start from 0... On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 16:05, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * can I change this table order without losing partition data ? nope. * can I have Extended partition number (mmcblk0p3 now) to be after the logical ones (so that mmcnlk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 refer to the 2 first logical ones, -just the same as in my 512MB card-) ? nope. the logicla partitions are inside the extended partition -- numbers have to be bigger than the number of the extended partition. if you like partition number independent identifiers use labels -- either when creating the xt2 fs or afterwards with tune2fs, argument -L. What is funny on my ubuntu laptop is that mount points are not always in the same order. I have to be carefull ! (of course I can fix mount points once for all on my pc -and also access rights for ext3-, but when I plug the card in another PC, I have the problem back...) you probably need to fix the udev script that creates the mount points. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
arne anka wrote: I have a sandisk 8gb card, and it works just fine. I seem to recall reading somewhere that 8gb was the biggest a FR could handle? or was it that 8gb is the biggest that is known to work? what means fine exactly? - no bootsector corruption? - no sudden data corruption? - lost card on resume? if so, which kernel are you using? fine means with no troubles ;) - bootsector corruption? I haven't tried booting off it yet - I've not seen any data corruption - I usually have power management turned off, because I don't trust it and the FR is my primary phone, but the few times I have used suspend / resume I've seen no problems. kernel: Not entirely sure how to determine this. If you can let me know how to find out more specifically, I'll be happy to tell you. In the meantime, maybe this will help? opkg list_installed | grep kernel seems to give me two: kernel - 2:2.6.24+git35+2d61a7406ec89893cdb4246d3f0144818278a5d8-r2 - kernel-2.6.24 - 2:2.6.24+git35+2d61a7406ec89893cdb4246d3f0144818278a5d8-r2 - uname -a gives me: Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Aug 19 04:13:01 CEST 2008 armv4tl unknown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Am Mittwoch 20 August 2008 16:33:54 schrieb Daniel Benoy: Is there an ETA on illume being packaged? Is there anything that can be done to help? On Saturday 16 August 2008 10:14:24 Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Samstag, den 16.08.2008, 11:22 +0200 schrieb arne anka: So now people, let's write a page that lists some cool (read: recommended or so..) apps that you can run on debian here :) i am far more intersted to switch to a useful desktop manager and still to be able to use the phone part. at least i'd like to know how i do access installed applications, zhone only presents that four predefined buttons. Until we can package Illume, you can use the AUX button to fire up a keyboard and then press Alt-Ctrl-X to get an xterm and Alt-Tab to switch between application. Greetings, Joachim raster said he would maybe do it after moving e to svn - and also, that it wouldn't be too hard. But at least I couldn't get a proper e environment set up here :) Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
Fox Mulder wrote: Nobody can say exactly if 8GB cards are supported or not because there exists no bigger cards to try with. ;) aha, thanks for clarifying :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
On Tuesday 19 August 2008, Jay Vaughan wrote: Maybe i should test it with a more simple usb keyboard without any extra functions. You should test your USB keyboard with the Freerunner, using a USB *HUB* in between, and see if that doesn't fix things. IFAICT, there are details not-yet-well-understood regarding the nature of the termination and 'pull-up' resistor normally included on standard USB Host ports which may not be included with the Freerunner hardware design - meaning a simple female/female convertor isn't going to be enough, there will need to be a cap and a resistor included in the schematic in order to make the USB Host controller onboard the Freerunner believe it is talking to a proper USB hub node. If this isn't there, the controller believes its only got a single device to talk with, physically, and in your case this isn't true - you've got two devices onboard. So, you need the cap and resistor, I bet. Do you have a source for this info? The only need for external components that I'm aware of is the 15k pulldowns when charging while in host mode. This information used to be in the wiki on the GTA02 Hardware page but has been moved or removed. It's still in the history though: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardwareoldid=45860#USB_Host ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.8 (with updates) and wpa_supplicant == hang (is only me?)
It seems that now I finally switched from qtopia to 2008.8 -- ie. it is ready for me as a daily-used phone! YEAY! but yesterday I've ran into a problem after I've tried to setup my wireless the way I did long ago on 2007.2: copied my wpa_supplicant.conf and tuned up interfaces with iface eth0 inet dhcp wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf but then whenever I do ifup eth0 (via ssh usb session) phone freezes (screen remains powered -- no reaction to any touches or keys, even holding power button for 10 sec does nothing). before I try to do anything I wondered if anyone uses wpa_supplicant succesfully (what kernel and wpa_supp versions?) or could confirm the same issue as I have? thanks in advance -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
What is e exactly? It's a window manager or something right? And it's not available in svn yet so it's hard to package up? On Wednesday 20 August 2008 10:48:23 Marcel wrote: Am Mittwoch 20 August 2008 16:33:54 schrieb Daniel Benoy: Is there an ETA on illume being packaged? Is there anything that can be done to help? On Saturday 16 August 2008 10:14:24 Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Samstag, den 16.08.2008, 11:22 +0200 schrieb arne anka: So now people, let's write a page that lists some cool (read: recommended or so..) apps that you can run on debian here :) i am far more intersted to switch to a useful desktop manager and still to be able to use the phone part. at least i'd like to know how i do access installed applications, zhone only presents that four predefined buttons. Until we can package Illume, you can use the AUX button to fire up a keyboard and then press Alt-Ctrl-X to get an xterm and Alt-Tab to switch between application. Greetings, Joachim raster said he would maybe do it after moving e to svn - and also, that it wouldn't be too hard. But at least I couldn't get a proper e environment set up here :) Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth, WiFi and Zecke's feeds?
On August 20, 2008 07:03:52 am Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, I'm using 2008.8 with Zecke's testing and dev feeds. At the moment, I can enable WiFi from the settings menu, but am unable to associate with my router (someone on IRC hinted that I sould run wpa_supplicant in debug mode, and it told me that it didn't get a timely reply from my router (WRT54G). Can anyone comment on that?) Also, I can switch BlueTooth on and off, but 'hcitool scan' gives me 'Device unavailable' with both settings. Should I create a ticket somewhere, or are these known bugs and (hopefully!) already ironed out? Christ van Willegen I have of, as yet, not been able to associate with my WRT54GL either, with any of the available distros (the kernels and wpa_supplicant are the same afterall). See the (completely ignored) bug https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1250 -- Gabriel A. Devenyi B.Eng. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
Anyway my partition table is now crashed thanks to suspend/resume issue. I go digging in mailing list, I think I saw ways to recover... else I'll have to start from 0... any linux distribution should offer tools to recover lost partitions and recreate partitiontables. i think parted is one. after recovery backup your bootsector by doing dd if=/dev/mmcbl0 of=boot.backup bs=512 count=1 in case you loose it again, do dd if=boot.backup of=/dev/mmcblk0 that's on your host! i don't know, if that works from fr, though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lock version of package with opkg
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 01:09:15PM +1000, Dale Maggee wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the scaredycat repo and gpsd doesn't seem to work right. Is there any way to lock the old version so I can do an 'opkg upgrade' without upgrading gpsd? I think this might be the same problem I'm having, how would I go about downgrading to a working version? I'm assuming I'd use opkg -force-downgrade, but what version of gpsd is known to be working? link? Try using cat to read the /dev/ttySAC* devices and see if you get NMEA data from any of them first. I have a suspicion that whatever handles the naming of the devices changed after an opkg upgrade to the daily feeds. Then change your /etc/default/gpsd file so that it has whatever device spits out NMEA data. Let me know how this turns out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
fine means with no troubles ;) - bootsector corruption? I haven't tried booting off it yet that's not necessary -- it manifest itself by total loss partition informations - I've not seen any data corruption - I usually have power management turned off, because I don't trust it ok. then you wont experience it. and the FR is my primary phone, but the few times I have used suspend / resume I've seen no problems. it's not predictable, so you might be just lucky ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth, WiFi and Zecke's feeds?
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 01:03:52PM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, I'm using 2008.8 with Zecke's testing and dev feeds. At the moment, I can enable WiFi from the settings menu, but am unable to associate with my router (someone on IRC hinted that I sould run wpa_supplicant in debug mode, and it told me that it didn't get a timely reply from my router (WRT54G). Can anyone comment on that?) Also, I can switch BlueTooth on and off, but 'hcitool scan' gives me 'Device unavailable' with both settings. Should I create a ticket somewhere, or are these known bugs and (hopefully!) already ironed out? I don't think zecke's feeds are official, so I dont know if its appropriate to file bugs with OpenMoko. You can always check the bug tracker though. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/report ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging
Marcus Bauer wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 13:04 +1000, Dale Maggee wrote: so I tried: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/navit# /etc/init.d/gpsd start and got: Starting gpsd: No GPS device, aborting gpsd startup. Check /etc/default/gpsd The line in /etc/default/gpsd needs to read (for freerunner): GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 Then gpsd should start and tangoGPS too. That did the trick, thanks! although it still doesn't seem to get a lock until I run AGPS Gui... ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lock version of package with opkg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 01:09:15PM +1000, Dale Maggee wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the scaredycat repo and gpsd doesn't seem to work right. Is there any way to lock the old version so I can do an 'opkg upgrade' without upgrading gpsd? I think this might be the same problem I'm having, how would I go about downgrading to a working version? I'm assuming I'd use opkg -force-downgrade, but what version of gpsd is known to be working? link? Try using cat to read the /dev/ttySAC* devices and see if you get NMEA data from any of them first. I have a suspicion that whatever handles the naming of the devices changed after an opkg upgrade to the daily feeds. Then change your /etc/default/gpsd file so that it has whatever device spits out NMEA data. Let me know how this turns out. Thanks, I sorted it out. it turns out my /etc/defaults/gpsd somehow got renamed to /etc/defaults/gpsd.default. I changed it back and I can now start gpsd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official update feeds testing on downloads.openmoko.org
I'm giving it a try! Fingers crossed that I don't break everything :p On Wednesday 20 August 2008 09:23:34 Kevin Zuber wrote: Hi, I've just noticed on a new testing repository on downloads.openmoko.org [1]. Are that the official update feeds for ASU or another distribution? Is the merge of the two branches finished? Should I use this repo instead of the zecke repo now? Thanks for answers. Kev [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
David Samblas wrote: When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? I had the same problem, but when I restarted the X server, the illue keyboard came back. -- -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
arne anka wrote: fine means with no troubles ;) - bootsector corruption? I haven't tried booting off it yet that's not necessary -- it manifest itself by total loss partition informations aah. Well, no trouble with that then. :) did you still want to know about my kernel? was my information enough / usefull? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
David Samblas wrote: When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? I had the same problem, but the illume keyboard came back when I restarted X. -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)
julien cubizolles wrote: There is at the moment a very nasty bug on the phone software of ASU and FSO images. Basically most of the time (more than 9 out of 10) you can't get the phone registered after the PIN code is entered. This means you can't make a call but strangely you can always receive calls. Sometimes (quite often) you get registered after receiving a call and receiving the call while in suspend mode seems to make you a little luckier but maybe it's just wishful thinking. Some suggestions were made (upgrade with http://people.openmoko.org/zecke/qtopia-testing feeds) but didn't fix the problem. I never add any problem regarding registration with 2007.2 and still don't have any with the latest Qtopia image. I could stick with Qtopia for the time being but would very much test ASU. Could it be possible to somehow get from the Qtopia image the right files/packages/whatever to just fix the telephony part ? Julien. This is known. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1766 This is the major deal-breaker for 2008.8 for me - can't use it as a phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Hi, [Cc'ing to illume author.] Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there an ETA on illume being packaged? Is there anything that can be done to help? I compiled e17 svn head and illume using http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_User_Guide/Installing_Using_CVS on my debian unstable chroot but Configuration - Modules - Illume - Load Module just prints SEGMENTATION FAULT Have you managed to get compile illume? GDB shows that it crashes at #0 0xb7ac8d1a in e_dbus_message_send (conn=0x0, msg=0x814ef20, cb_return=0xb7ac8c30 cb_method_call, timeout=-1, data=0x0) at e_dbus_message.c:70 #1 0xb7ac8dd9 in e_dbus_method_call_send (conn=0x0, msg=0x814ef20, unmarshal_func=0, cb_func=0, free_func=0, timeout=-1, data=0x0) at e_dbus_message.c:115 #2 0xb6e6180d in _system_req_state (state=0xb6e74809 on) at e_pwr.c:87 #3 0xb6e6161a in e_pwr_init () at e_pwr.c:27 #4 0xb6e550ca in e_modapi_init (m=0x821d220) at e_mod_main.c:46 #5 0x080ae7a6 in e_module_enable (m=0x821d220) at e_module.c:265 #6 0x080f0236 in _mod_hash_load (hash=0x85c37e0, key=0x85c3e68 illume, data=0x85c3ea8, fdata=0x0) at e_int_config_modules.c:642 #7 0xb7c1a0e3 in evas_hash_foreach (hash=0x85c37e0, func=0x80f0200 _mod_hash_load, fdata=0x0) at evas_hash.c:459 #8 0x080ef778 in _enable_modules (enable=1) at e_int_config_modules.c:624 #9 0x080f0129 in _btn_cb_load (data=0x8339480, data2=0x0) at e_int_config_modules.c:594 #10 0x080d8689 in _e_wid_activate_hook (obj=0x86d2c20) at e_widget_button.c:164 #11 0xb7ecad39 in edje_match_callback_exec (ppat_signal=0x86de4b8, ppat_source=0x86de098, signal=0x86dd2f8 e,action,click, source=0x8232610 , callbacks=0x86bded0, ed=0x86d2e60) at edje_match.c:393 #12 0xb7ebf26c in _edje_emit_handle (ed=0x86d2e60, sig=0x86dd2f8 e,action,click, src=0x8232610 ) at edje_program.c:1009 #13 0xb7ec8df2 in _edje_message_process (em=0x8802a18) at edje_message_queue.c:548 #14 0xb7ec9567 in _edje_message_queue_process () at edje_message_queue.c:623 #15 0xb7ec9653 in _edje_job (data=0x0) at edje_message_queue.c:108 #16 0xb7eec752 in _ecore_job_event_handler (data=0x0, type=15, ev=0x873ed58) at ecore_job.c:104 #17 0xb7aa793d in _ecore_event_call () at ecore_events.c:429 #18 0xb7aaea95 in _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal (once_only=0) at ecore_main.c:680 #19 0xb7aaecaf in ecore_main_loop_begin () at ecore_main.c:87 #20 0x0806db62 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfaa9804) at e_main.c:941 probably because of Error connecting to bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused My unstable chroot does not have access to dbus outside chroot. After sudo mount -o bind /var/run/dbus /sid/var/run/dbus I don't see a crash but I can't figure out how to access the keyboard. Is there some hotkey to activate it? best regards, Timo Lindfors ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
in case you loose it again, do dd if=boot.backup of=/dev/mmcblk0 that's on your host! i don't know, if that works from fr, though. I can confirm this works for the bootsector corruption, but after seriously struggling with unreadable SDHC cards under Ubuntu _AND_ the FR I finally figured out some other pretty reliable workarounds for problems with memory cards: Trying the debian install yesterday I noticed that both the original 512MB as well as a 1GB card were no longer working on the FR ( could write to them but then glamo-mci errors as in http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743appeared and sometime after about 200MB all further communication seemed broken ) . In addition, partitioning seemed so messed up the cards were not recognized anymore by fdisk et al, so nothing but a panasonic windows card formatter could recover them. All of this happening without suspends on an upgraded 2007.8... Whilst linux 2.6.26 on the host needed a fix to get the cards to show up again at all ( http://marc.info/?l=linux-usbm=121734710306509w=2 ), on the FR side the only thing that worked was playing with the glamo kernel parameters - I haven't reduced it to a minimal set of changes, but passing glamo_mci.sd_drive=3 glamo_mci.sd_idleclk=1 sd_max_clk=500 on the u-boot cmdline resolved all issues so far. I haven't filed a bugreport as interestingly enough I wasn't having any issues with the troublesome 4GB any more - maybe because I was using 2008.8 booted from the card itself? I will try to reduce the parameters later, if anyone has further hints I'd be happy to try them out. Also, would the addition of dd'ed mbrs for the various cards in the Wiki be feasible ? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 17:26, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway my partition table is now crashed thanks to suspend/resume issue. I go digging in mailing list, I think I saw ways to recover... else I'll have to start from 0... any linux distribution should offer tools to recover lost partitions and recreate partitiontables. i think parted is one. after recovery backup your bootsector by doing dd if=/dev/mmcbl0 of=boot.backup bs=512 count=1 in case you loose it again, do dd if=boot.backup of=/dev/mmcblk0 that's on your host! i don't know, if that works from fr, though. thank you, that will help me a lot ! On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 16:35, Vikas Saurabh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could recover the data by creating the same paritioning and then re-downloading the kernel in the first partition (one of teh post suggested that the bug actually eats up a sector from the first partition as wellI didn't check and downloading the kernel was pretty easy). How did you recreate the same partitioning ? Informations from my fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 before the corruption will be enough to recreate it the same way ? Anyway I guess I'll first try to find a tool to do the recovery... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
did you still want to know about my kernel? was my information enough / usefull? nope -- the funny part happens when suspending/resuming. since you don't do that, there's no need. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
How did you recreate the same partitioning ? Informations from my fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 before the corruption will be enough to recreate it the same way ? yupp. just make sure you use blocks as unit. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official update feeds testing on downloads.openmoko.org
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 03:23:34PM +0200, Kevin Zuber wrote: Hi, I've just noticed on a new testing repository on downloads.openmoko.org [1]. Are that the official update feeds for ASU or another distribution? Is the merge of the two branches finished? Should I use this repo instead of the zecke repo now? Thanks for answers. Kev [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ It's there for a few days already. Didn't break anything for me. But it does not seem to include a new kernel yet. I was hoping to find a remedy for WSOD. Ole pgpYeknvPK9y4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?
For USB Hostmode to work with power from the internal battery no hardware modification nor usb-hub is needed. I found the problem why my usb keyboard doesn't work within X. I still use 2007.2 with the newest daily builds but it seems that the xserver-kdrive-glamo module is too old. There was a bug in this module which prevents an external keyboard to be used within X. The changelog says that it is fixed, but it seems that this fixed version is not in the feeds for 2007.2. :( The keyboard works fine for me when i stop X and use it just in the console. As soon as i start X again the keyboard doesn't work anymore. Here are the ticket for this problem: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 which is solved in newer versions as this log shows: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xglamo.git;a=commit;h=cddd780c527fe923c55c1fa385fd909c419f024e If someone find out how to upgrade to the newer fixed version of this module than i'm happy to try it again. :) Ciao, Rainer Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 19 August 2008, Jay Vaughan wrote: Maybe i should test it with a more simple usb keyboard without any extra functions. You should test your USB keyboard with the Freerunner, using a USB *HUB* in between, and see if that doesn't fix things. IFAICT, there are details not-yet-well-understood regarding the nature of the termination and 'pull-up' resistor normally included on standard USB Host ports which may not be included with the Freerunner hardware design - meaning a simple female/female convertor isn't going to be enough, there will need to be a cap and a resistor included in the schematic in order to make the USB Host controller onboard the Freerunner believe it is talking to a proper USB hub node. If this isn't there, the controller believes its only got a single device to talk with, physically, and in your case this isn't true - you've got two devices onboard. So, you need the cap and resistor, I bet. Do you have a source for this info? The only need for external components that I'm aware of is the 15k pulldowns when charging while in host mode. This information used to be in the wiki on the GTA02 Hardware page but has been moved or removed. It's still in the history though: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardwareoldid=45860#USB_Host ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:43:10 -0700 Uncle Kridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? I had the same problem, but when I restarted the X server, the illue keyboard came back. On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:43:41 -0700 Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Samblas wrote: When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? I had the same problem, but the illume keyboard came back when I restarted X. Now that's just cute. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)
Basically most of the time (more than 9 out of 10) you can't get the phone registered after the PIN code is entered. This means you can't make a call but strangely you can always receive calls. I have the exact same problem with 2008.8. Both before and after I started using Zecke's feed. After I had the phone suspended it usually register that the GSM is online after a minute or so. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
I used the network applet and just configured it to see eth0 and ppp0. I'm not that interested in seeing IP over USB traffic but you could add that by just adding another applet on the taskbar for it. I'm currently finishing up a battery power python app for any of the system trays (GNOME, XFCE, etc) so you can see battery power when zhone is either not open, or minimized. I plan on adding phone network status and other information to it as well. I'll post the link here when I'm finished. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:10:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With the problem with the onscreen keyboard, I solved keeping the keyboard closed when booting, and opening it only after the boot. It is the only little bug I saw until now! Ps: using Network Nanager 0.6 I am not able to saw neither wifi or usb0 connection. Someone had success on it? (for usb0 i know thet Network Manager 0.7 support it :) xaos x wrote: Actually, you don't need to launch xfce4-desktop. just launch xfce4-panel, then zhone, or vice versa. The onscreen keyboard works *much* better that way. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:28:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrCXfSIAU/I6SkT0RAsWXAJ9rxkrsXKmfNNJFowRHIhpQa1fLgACfWLfu Vieus40zlLPvPD5XEq1zUbs= =wV68 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth, WiFi and Zecke's feeds?
On Wednesday 20 August 2008, Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, I'm using 2008.8 with Zecke's testing and dev feeds. At the moment, I can enable WiFi from the settings menu, but am unable to associate with my router (someone on IRC hinted that I sould run wpa_supplicant in debug mode, and it told me that it didn't get a timely reply from my router (WRT54G). Can anyone comment on that?) I've never got it to associate with my wrt54g using the GUI in 2008.8 but with the old GTK image I could get it to associate using my manually created wpa_supplicant.conf and modified /etc/network/interfaces. Also, I can switch BlueTooth on and off, but 'hcitool scan' gives me 'Device unavailable' with both settings. I used to see this sometimes with the old GTK GUI, but it's worked whenever I've tried 2008.8. Perhaps I've just been lucky. I _think_ the problem used to be that the GUI changed the power status, but didn't toggle the bluetooth reset line. Sometimes you would be lucky, other times not. I took to using a couple of scripts to start and stop bluetooth from the terminal which might be worth a try: #!/bin/sh # Bring up bluetooth - power up module echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset #!/bin/sh # Bring down bluetooth - turn off the module echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Booting from SD-card / setting-up a second environment on FR
Hello list,
I (first time poster and newly FR enjoy-er) try to boot from SD-card. I
want to make a second environment in which I can experiment _without_
changing the software that the phone ships with. That is, without making
all to big changes to the original software on the phone.
I followed the instructions 'Boot_from_sd_card' on the wiki [1]. I used:
-
Openmoko-scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080507-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
- uImage-2.6.24+git20080507-r0-om-gta02.bin
== Result: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
unknown-block(179,2)
Than I downloaded Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
and uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin (exactly the same files
installed on the phone I believe) in order to write/copy these to
SD-card. However, I don't know how to write/copy the jffs2 file to
SD-card. (I cannot find the same file in 'tar.gz' format.)
As I understand the filetype jffs2 is an image comparable with a
iso-image of a cd [2]. I learned that it is possible to mount it as a
'loopback' device in order to read from the .jffs2 [3]. I also learned
that the 'dd'-command (see[4]) can be used to create a .jffs2.
==While learning all this, a totally different approach crossed my mind:
Would it be possible to duplicate (with the use of dd) the standard
environment (the FR ships with) to SD-card (in order to create a second
environment)?
Would it be possible to duplicate (with the use of dd) any environment
(on the FR) for back-up purposes (and put it back when necessary)?
Would it be helpful when such a method is described on the wiki?
How would the command look like? I was guessing:
- dd if=/dev/mtdblock2 of=/dev/mmcblk0p1 (assuming see[5] _/proc/mtd
mtd2_(kernel) maps to /dev/mtdblock2)
- dd if=/dev/mtdblock4 of=/dev/mmcblk0p2 (assuming see[5] _/proc/mtd
mtd4_(rootfs) maps to /dev/mtdblock4)
Because the source(blocksize??) and destination(partition sixe??) will
differ in size, the commands above probably need extra parameters. (If
this method works at all: Probably I'm totally wrong.)
At the moment I'm most interested in answers to the questions above.
However, tips / help with the 'kernel panic' is also much appreciated.
(To be clear: The FR still boots, but not from SD-card!)
Issues I checked are:
- Kernel and filesystem 'fit' together.
- File system:
snip
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/mtab | grep mmcblk0
/dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/mokokernel vfat
rw,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
/dev/mmcblk0p2 /mnt/moko ext2 rw 0 0
/snip
- u-boot environment:
snip
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: # command below 'stolen' from
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Uboot.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U env.in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: cat env.in
[...]
menu_1=Boot from microSD (FAT+ext2): setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} root
fstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5 ${mtdparts} ro; mmcinit;
fatload m
mc 1 0x3200 ${sd_image_name}; bootm 0x3200
[...]
/snip
Thanks,
A.dre
[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot_from_sd_card
[2] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td472598%7Ca472694
[3]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Userspace_root_image#Mount_on_loopback_device
[4] dd if=/dev/mtdblock0 of=rootfs.jffs2 (for explanation see[3])
[5] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bricked#Useful_information
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Re: Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 20:11 +0200, Måns Malmberg wrote: Basically most of the time (more than 9 out of 10) you can't get the phone registered after the PIN code is entered. This means you can't make a call but strangely you can always receive calls. I have the exact same problem with 2008.8. Both before and after I started using Zecke's feed. After I had the phone suspended it usually register that the GSM is online after a minute or so. You guys are lucky. Mine does not receive calls at all on startup. I do not have any PIN, so it does not ask me for one. Moreover it does not wake up after suspend - the screen is blank. I am not even sure it suspends properly, cause I still able to ssh into it and if I issue apm -s at that time it gives me apm: Device or resource busy. Only reboot is the solution. I saw it register only tree/four times. All when I was playing with default GPS program, but it may be only coincidence. Qtopia also suffers from it, but not at that extent - it usually recovers signal after awhile. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Network manager doesn't show the network traffic, but permit to open/close the connection. The version 0.7 (not yet available for Freerunner but available on Ubuntu) permit to manage wifi network, vpn connection (OpenVpn and Cisco VPN) ADSL modem (very useful in Italy) USB connection and GPRS/UMTS connection. About the program you are writing, keep present my name for beta testing. Regards Michele Renda xaos x wrote: I used the network applet and just configured it to see eth0 and ppp0. I'm not that interested in seeing IP over USB traffic but you could add that by just adding another applet on the taskbar for it. I'm currently finishing up a battery power python app for any of the system trays (GNOME, XFCE, etc) so you can see battery power when zhone is either not open, or minimized. I plan on adding phone network status and other information to it as well. I'll post the link here when I'm finished. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:10:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop With the problem with the onscreen keyboard, I solved keeping the keyboard closed when booting, and opening it only after the boot. It is the only little bug I saw until now! Ps: using Network Nanager 0.6 I am not able to saw neither wifi or usb0 connection. Someone had success on it? (for usb0 i know thet Network Manager 0.7 support it :) xaos x wrote: Actually, you don't need to launch xfce4-desktop. just launch xfce4-panel, then zhone, or vice versa. The onscreen keyboard works *much* better that way. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:28:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrG+1SIAU/I6SkT0RAoKTAJ0YmQQpsB3fabCyUA2cra8+Wu4JIQCfaCR8 wVqGHP11Naf/MlseieTsCHM= =c6pG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Order from Pulster
Christoph Pulster schrieb: Hello, thanks to Openmoko Inc. (great job Harry!) we received the new batch of units in time. So EVERYBODY who got an order confirmation from me for delivery-batch 15.08. will get his Freerunner in the next days. In other words, we are busy all the day to ship all orders. Despite very long delivery times and sometimes late replys from my side, Applause to my Openmoko customers, you all are very patient, understanding and very kind and friendly persons, Chris www.pulster.de Openmoko Shop I recieved my Gummi bears yesterday :)... thx I was quiet exited about the package by pulster I opened it and the first you see is a small package of Gummi bears juhu :)... So I waited for more than a month and I can say, that it was absolutely worth it. So just be patient for another week or two. Meanwhile the software is getting better and better so the wow effect will be even bigger. enaut ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian Install failure: Hash Sum Mismatch
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 19.08.2008, 16:50 +0100 schrieb Joseph Reeves: Following the instructions on the Debian wiki, but I get Hash Sum Mismath errors on the whilst it fetches packages for apt. Sorry for the big cut and paste, but it works until here then dies. Tried twice, both times it fails at the same point: Get:605 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.7-2 [993kB] Get:606 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main mtd-utils 20080508-1 [287kB] Get:607 http://ftp2.de.debian.org experimental/main python-ecore 0.2.1-2 [295kB] Get:608 http://ftp2.de.debian.org experimental/main python-evas 0.2.1-2 [374kB] Fetched 5899kB in 7min35s (13.0kB/s) Failed to fetch http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xorg/x11-common_7.3+15_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch Failed to fetch Sorry, no idea. The only guesses I can make are network problems or hardware failure. It it were only some packages, it might have been a bad mirror push, but this looks strange. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)
Alexey Kurochkin wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 20:11 +0200, Måns Malmberg wrote: Basically most of the time (more than 9 out of 10) you can't get the phone registered after the PIN code is entered. This means you can't make a call but strangely you can always receive calls. I have the exact same problem with 2008.8. Both before and after I started using Zecke's feed. After I had the phone suspended it usually register that the GSM is online after a minute or so. You guys are lucky. Mine does not receive calls at all on startup. I do not have any PIN, so it does not ask me for one. Moreover it does not wake up after suspend - the screen is blank. I am not even sure it suspends properly, cause I still able to ssh into it and if I issue apm -s at that time it gives me apm: Device or resource busy. Only reboot is the solution. I saw it register only tree/four times. All when I was playing with default GPS program, but it may be only coincidence. Qtopia also suffers from it, but not at that extent - it usually recovers signal after awhile. You can try setting the LCD brightness of the display manually throught you SSH connection. While it's no solution to your suspend problem it might save you from rebooting. echo 63 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
configuring uboot from the phone Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 20.08.2008, 19:30 +0530 schrieb Vikas Saurabh: Attached is another version of cofigure-uboot.sh. This version can 'only' be run from inside booted freerunner (requires fso-utils which debian already has). Maybe, the choice of external execution or execution from inside debian be a parameter to the scriptbut I am just too lazy :) I have had this code already in the installer script, but had problems when testing it: uBoot seemed to be confused by the environment, sometimes it read garbage instead of the first few bytes (the rest was ok). So please test Vikas script, if it works reliably for you. If noone has problems, I’d prefer this method integrated into the installation over the remote one. Thanks, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
I just installed debian on my new 8gb micro sd card. I changed the filesystem to ext3 after partitioning and i also changed the fstab to ext3. But now when i boot i get some warning messages that the ext3 filesystem is mounted as ext2. What else must i change so that the system knows its ext3 and doesn't complain about it? The installation works quite well without any problems so far. Now i see the X screen after my first boot. So far so good. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 21:58 +0200, Måns Malmberg wrote: You can try setting the LCD brightness of the display manually throught you SSH connection. While it's no solution to your suspend problem it might save you from rebooting. echo 63 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness Seems to help a bit. It feels lame rebooting linux. Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Why is opkg trying to install neo1973 packages on my FreeRunner?
Hello, Why is opkg trying to install kernel and other packages for the neo1973 on my FreeRunner? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg -test upgrade Upgrading angstrom-version on root from 1:-20080812-r1 to 1:-20080820-r1... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02//angstrom-version_-20080820-r1_om-gta02.ipk Upgrading kernel on root from 2:2.6.24+git33+88bf43840b9df0eb0a077a1394eb564be80a412e-r2 to 2:2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01... Downloading http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973/kernel_2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01_neo1973.opk Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Upgrading kernel-2.6.24 on root from 2:2.6.24+git75940+27fc8d82e365c47065f3a9240bfe21e67a50edf2-r1.01 to 2:2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01... Downloading http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01_neo1973.opk Upgrading kernel-image-2.6.24 on root from 2:2.6.24+git75940+27fc8d82e365c47065f3a9240bfe21e67a50edf2-r1.01 to 2:2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01... Downloading http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01_neo1973.opk Upgrading kernel-module-arc4 on root from 2:2.6.24+git75940+27fc8d82e365c47065f3a9240bfe21e67a50edf2-r1.01 to 2:2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01... Downloading http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973/kernel-module-arc4_2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01_neo1973.opk Explain to me how this is not e fault in opkg or package handling. Or better, how to fix this problem. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I changed the filesystem to ext3 after partitioning and i also changed the fstab to ext3. My guess is that the kernel does not have ext3 support. It is not properly packaged yet so I can't check /boot/config-`uname -r` to make sure though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ASU - out of memory?
I am running ASU on my FreeRunner. After it being up for a day or two, things (like the touch screen) stops working. ight now it has been up for: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime 22:53:34 up 3 days, 5:10, 2 users, load average: 1.01, 1.15, 1.28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# From logread: Aug 20 22:11:47 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.785000] hald invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1201d2, order=0, oomkilladj=0 Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.785000] [c002dbfc] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [c007a554] (oom_kill_process+0x58/0xec) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.795000] [c007a4fc] (oom_kill_process+0x0/0xec) from [c007aa28] (out_of_memory+0x1a4/0x1fc) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.805000] r7:0134 r6:c6884720 r5:c0387158 r4:c77e73c0 Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.81] [c007a884] (out_of_memory+0x0/0x1fc) from [c007cdcc] (__alloc_pages+0x27c/0x308) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.82] [c007cb50] (__alloc_pages+0x0/0x308) from [c007f068] (__do_page_cache_readahead+0x148/0x2b0) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.83] [c007ef20] (__do_page_cache_readahead+0x0/0x2b0) from [c007f68c] (do_page_cache_readahead+0x70/0x80) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.84] [c007f61c] (do_page_cache_readahead+0x0/0x80) from [c00799c0] (filemap_fault+0x1d4/0x454) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.85] r7:c76f6620 r6:c68d2000 r5: r4: Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.855000] [c00797ec] (filemap_fault+0x0/0x454) from [c0084e04] (__do_fault+0x74/0x43c) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.865000] [c0084d90] (__do_fault+0x0/0x43c) from [c0085f64] (handle_mm_fault+0x308/0x700) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.87] [c0085c5c] (handle_mm_fault+0x0/0x700) from [c002fde0] (do_page_fault+0x100/0x23c) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.88] [c002fce0] (do_page_fault+0x0/0x23c) from [c002ffd0] (do_translation_fault+0x20/0x80) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.89] [c002ffb0] (do_translation_fault+0x0/0x80) from [c00281bc] (do_PrefetchAbort+0x18/0x1c) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.90] r5:be9248c0 r4: Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.905000] [c00281a4] (do_PrefetchAbort+0x0/0x1c) from [c0028e80] (ret_from_exception+0x0/0x10) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.915000] Exception stack(0xc68d3fb0 to 0xc68d3ff8) Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.92] 3fa0: 00043660 000389f0 be9247b8 be9248b8 Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.925000] 3fc0: be9248d4 be9248c0 be9248c4 be9248c8 be9248cc be9248d0 000412e0 0001 Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.935000] 3fe0: 000414c4 be924778 0002c748 4024c050 2010 Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.94] Mem-info: Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.945000] DMA per-cpu: Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.945000] CPU0: Hot: hi: 42, btch: 7 usd: 40 Cold: hi: 14, btch: 3 usd: 9 Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.95] Active:27461 inactive:310 dirty:0 writeback:0 unstable:0 Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.95] free:360 slab:1883 mapped:4 pagetables:220 bounce:0 Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.955000] DMA free:1440kB min:1440kB low:1800kB high:2160kB active:109844kB inactive:1240kB present:130048kB pages_scanned:193944 all_unreclaimable? yes Aug 20 22:13:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.96] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.965000] DMA: 0*4kB 2*8kB 1*16kB 0*32kB 0*64kB 1*128kB 1*256kB 0*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 1440kB Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.975000] Swap cache: add 0, delete 0, find 0/0, race 0+0 Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.98] Free swap = 0kB Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.985000] Total swap = 0kB Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275268.985000] Free swap: 0kB Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275269.00] 32768 pages of RAM Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275269.00] 604 free pages Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275269.00] 1924 reserved pages Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275269.005000] 1883 slab pages Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275269.01] 24 pages shared Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275269.01] 0 pages swap cached Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.err kernel: [275269.015000] Out of memory: kill process 1277 (hald) score 308 or a child Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.err kernel: [275269.02] Killed process 1278 (hald-runner) This doesn't look good to me. Should ASU run out of memory? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
After it boots up the root filesystem is mounted as ext3 how i specified it in the fstab. So it seems that only while booting something is not configured right. Maybe i could ignore this message, but i would be happier if this message doesn't apper. :) Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I changed the filesystem to ext3 after partitioning and i also changed the fstab to ext3. My guess is that the kernel does not have ext3 support. It is not properly packaged yet so I can't check /boot/config-`uname -r` to make sure though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Order from Pulster
Yes that gummy bears were the second smail when I open the neo case El mié, 20-08-2008 a las 21:39 +0200, enaut escribió: Christoph Pulster schrieb: Hello, thanks to Openmoko Inc. (great job Harry!) we received the new batch of units in time. So EVERYBODY who got an order confirmation from me for delivery-batch 15.08. will get his Freerunner in the next days. In other words, we are busy all the day to ship all orders. Despite very long delivery times and sometimes late replys from my side, Applause to my Openmoko customers, you all are very patient, understanding and very kind and friendly persons, Chris www.pulster.de Openmoko Shop I recieved my Gummi bears yesterday :)... thx I was quiet exited about the package by pulster I opened it and the first you see is a small package of Gummi bears juhu :)... So I waited for more than a month and I can say, that it was absolutely worth it. So just be patient for another week or two. Meanwhile the software is getting better and better so the wow effect will be even bigger. enaut ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 21:25 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: Network manager doesn't show the network traffic, but permit to open/close the connection. i'm managing my wifi connections with wifi-radar. it works very well but you have to do some changes to the source because some of the options set by wifimanager will fail with the openmoko wifi card. -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 14:39 -0400, xaos x wrote: I'm currently finishing up a battery power python app for any of the system trays (GNOME, XFCE, etc) so you can see battery power when zhone is either not open, or minimized. I plan on adding phone network status and other information to it as well. I'll post the link here when I'm finished. i'm currently doning the same but it's only a xfce panel plugin so you can't use it for gnome etc. my program can currently show the status of the gps,gsm,bt devices. so i did it the other way around. may be we should combine our afforts so we get a faster solution. i think my next step would be to build an app to enable or disable the gpsco hardware. Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: openvpn?
Thanks a lot! My problem was with the openssl dependencies, which are resolved by using the openssl-dev package you referenced. I was now able to create an .ipk package and it works flawlessly with 2008.8. Now I can actually use my phone at work to connect to other work machines through our wifi network... all the iPhone users here are going to drool now. -Nick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:54:04 -0400 Subject: Re: openvpn? What are you having trouble with? I was able to cross-compile http://openvpn.net/release/openvpn-2.1_rc9.tar.gz on the first attempt with . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env;./configure --host=arm-angstrom-linux;make after easing http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/armv4t/openssl-dev_0.9.7g-r7_armv4t.opk into /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib. I've not tested it yet. j - Original Message - From: Nick Van Fossen To: Subject: openvpn? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:42:49 -0700 I'm trying to compile openvpn for my FreeRunner, which is running 2008.8, but so far I haven't been successful. Has anyone else tried to do this yet? If so I'd appreciate any info on how you were able to. -Nick __ ___ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDHC 16GB 15MB/s card
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 18:17, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did you recreate the same partitioning ? Informations from my fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 before the corruption will be enough to recreate it the same way ? yupp. just make sure you use blocks as unit. ok it works. I recreated the table with fdisk. (fortunately I had the fdisk -l output I posted before !) I tried before testdisk but it could not detect correctly my partitions (presence of logical partition may also have complicated its task) Time for me to backup the table now ! Thanks again for the help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO testing on Neo 1973
FYI, I just installed FSO testing (latest snapshot) on my Neo 1973. Looks - I like it! screen locker - I like it! And many things work also - nice! I don't have a SIM card in my 1973 (it's in the FreeRunner) so I can't test phone functions. GPS - I have installed gllin and I get data from it (tested with 'cat //tmp/nmeaNP'). Should zhone and / or tangoGPS work on this image? Very nice work, folks! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:50:57 +0300 Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: ok. oops. missed 1 check for system conn. fixed in svn. (segv). as for trynig illume - you ALSO want the illume profile and thus initial config setup - so use x-ui.sh in the illume svn dir (it runs xephyr for you, sets up some modmappings for qtopia - not interesting on a desktop unless you have a desktop x86 build of the qtopia x11 port, and it runs e with the illume profile). as for accessing keyboard. even if you have the manual button, it will be disabled.. if you have a usb keyboard plugged in (yes! that code in illume that detects a physical keyboard like bluetooth and/or usb keyboards plugged in) is working! :) luckily for you... there is a config file for that. you need to put a file in ~/.e/e/keyboards for your desktop to work around it's default setup as to what input devices to ignore (eg ignore build in keyboard interfaces that dont actually provide a real keyboard): 9:42AM ~/.e/e/keyboards cat ignore_built_in_keyboards /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/* so just make a file that has that. you'll notice illume ships with one for the system that is: 9:43AM ~ cat /usr/local/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/ignore_built_in_keyboards /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_* so this ignores things like ps/2 and at keyboards, but usb keyboards are removable device style keyboards and thus disable the vkbd :) Hi, [Cc'ing to illume author.] Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there an ETA on illume being packaged? Is there anything that can be done to help? I compiled e17 svn head and illume using http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_User_Guide/Installing_Using_CVS on my debian unstable chroot but Configuration - Modules - Illume - Load Module just prints SEGMENTATION FAULT Have you managed to get compile illume? GDB shows that it crashes at #0 0xb7ac8d1a in e_dbus_message_send (conn=0x0, msg=0x814ef20, #cb_return=0xb7ac8c30 cb_method_call, timeout=-1, data=0x0) at #e_dbus_message.c:70 1 0xb7ac8dd9 in e_dbus_method_call_send (conn=0x0, #msg=0x814ef20, unmarshal_func=0, cb_func=0, free_func=0, timeout=-1, #data=0x0) at e_dbus_message.c:115 2 0xb6e6180d in _system_req_state #(state=0xb6e74809 on) at e_pwr.c:87 3 0xb6e6161a in e_pwr_init () at #e_pwr.c:27 4 0xb6e550ca in e_modapi_init (m=0x821d220) at e_mod_main.c:46 #5 0x080ae7a6 in e_module_enable (m=0x821d220) at e_module.c:265 6 #0x080f0236 in _mod_hash_load (hash=0x85c37e0, key=0x85c3e68 illume, #data=0x85c3ea8, fdata=0x0) at e_int_config_modules.c:642 7 0xb7c1a0e3 in #evas_hash_foreach (hash=0x85c37e0, func=0x80f0200 _mod_hash_load, #fdata=0x0) at evas_hash.c:459 8 0x080ef778 in _enable_modules (enable=1) at #e_int_config_modules.c:624 9 0x080f0129 in _btn_cb_load (data=0x8339480, #data2=0x0) at e_int_config_modules.c:594 10 0x080d8689 in #_e_wid_activate_hook (obj=0x86d2c20) at e_widget_button.c:164 11 0xb7ecad39 #in edje_match_callback_exec (ppat_signal=0x86de4b8, ppat_source=0x86de098, #signal=0x86dd2f8 e,action,click, source=0x8232610 , callbacks=0x86bded0, #ed=0x86d2e60) at edje_match.c:393 12 0xb7ebf26c in _edje_emit_handle #(ed=0x86d2e60, sig=0x86dd2f8 e,action,click, src=0x8232610 ) at #edje_program.c:1009 13 0xb7ec8df2 in _edje_message_process (em=0x8802a18) at #edje_message_queue.c:548 14 0xb7ec9567 in _edje_message_queue_process () at #edje_message_queue.c:623 15 0xb7ec9653 in _edje_job (data=0x0) at #edje_message_queue.c:108 16 0xb7eec752 in _ecore_job_event_handler #(data=0x0, type=15, ev=0x873ed58) at ecore_job.c:104 17 0xb7aa793d in #_ecore_event_call () at ecore_events.c:429 18 0xb7aaea95 in #_ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal (once_only=0) at ecore_main.c:680 19 #0xb7aaecaf in ecore_main_loop_begin () at ecore_main.c:87 20 0x0806db62 in #main (argc=1, argv=0xbfaa9804) at e_main.c:941 probably because of Error connecting to bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused My unstable chroot does not have access to dbus outside chroot. After sudo mount -o bind /var/run/dbus /sid/var/run/dbus I don't see a crash but I can't figure out how to access the keyboard. Is there some hotkey to activate it? best regards, Timo Lindfors -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Order from Pulster
enaut wrote: Christoph Pulster schrieb: Hello, thanks to Openmoko Inc. (great job Harry!) we received the new batch of units in time. So EVERYBODY who got an order confirmation from me for delivery-batch 15.08. will get his Freerunner in the next days. In other words, we are busy all the day to ship all orders. Despite very long delivery times and sometimes late replys from my side, Applause to my Openmoko customers, you all are very patient, understanding and very kind and friendly persons, Chris www.pulster.de Openmoko Shop I recieved my Gummi bears yesterday :)... thx I was quiet exited about the package by pulster I opened it and the first you see is a small package of Gummi bears juhu :)... So I waited for more than a month and I can say, that it was absolutely worth it. So just be patient for another week or two. Meanwhile the software is getting better and better so the wow effect will be even bigger. enaut ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Oh yeah, I forgot to thank Christoph for the gummy bears too! Nice friendly touch! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on theFreerunner?
dont tempt me Michele Renda wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It will be very very nice _alpha_ release :) Gilles Casse wrote: So why not a next _alpha_ release on 2008.09.10 at 11:12:13 :-) Gilles -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIostbSIAU/I6SkT0RAi7MAKCPRr/gUkYn0Z7OLkZv76DTXLBskwCdENqx LjRd5glEF76yhYPSD7xaLBs= =/ouf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wts Freerunner
Justin Wong wrote: Hello, It looks like I won't have enough time and I want this device in good hands for development. Send me an email if you want to purchase a brand new Freerunner off me. Probably a good idea to give a description of what kind of condition it's in, plus specify its location (for working out likely postage) and whether it's an 850 or 900 model. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: FYI, I just installed FSO testing (latest snapshot) on my Neo 1973. Looks - I like it! screen locker - I like it! And many things work also - nice! I don't have a SIM card in my 1973 (it's in the FreeRunner) so I can't test phone functions. GPS - I have installed gllin and I get data from it (tested with 'cat //tmp/nmeaNP'). Should zhone and / or tangoGPS work on this image? The connection between gllin and TangoGPS is not there on the fso-testing image (since we're waiting for some major frameworkd changes to stabilise before Mickey bumps the srcrev). If you apply the patches in FSO trac tickets 49 and 50, then it works. BTW, Orrery (a great star chart app) works nicely on it too! http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/orrery_1.1_arm_2008.8.ipk -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]
bingo Michele Renda wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This type of comments are the type of comment that I hate most of all. Please let the people to work in peace, and if you want to make an appoint, please make in a constructive way. We all was knowing that OM 2008.8 was in very early development, and no one force you to use it. People like you bring firms to have a close development process. Regards Michele Renda Olivier Berger wrote: Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear community, here is the QA report which has been created before Om 2008.8 was released. We simply forgot to send this report to a public list because we were too busy with the release preparations. Sorry. SNIP Due to all these critical major bugs, from our testing team point of view: Not stable enough to release our Om 2008.8. The subject says it all. No need for more comments, I guess. Maybe I should have quoted the release announcement email too ! Regards, -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIorE6SIAU/I6SkT0RArtsAJ9ga9+i0vG+Jo8Ke6WcrpBIBBH9IwCgrcv7 wbS2DAkeN67OZifSbq8H9Xk= =guq/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Ok i fixed it myself. After reading the Booting from sd card wiki article i managed to install new boot menu entries. One additional for vfat+ext3 and one for ext2+ext3 boot combinations. Now i don't get anymore messages for wrong fs type. :) My xfce is running and now i'm testing the patched input method with the right mouse key which seems to work nicely. :) The only thing i'm missing is how i setup the screensaver method. I want the brightness to dim and after some time to lock the screen like on 2007.2. Anyone know how to do this? At the moment the screen is always in full brightness, which isn't very battery friendly. ;) Ciao, Rainer Fox Mulder wrote: I just installed debian on my new 8gb micro sd card. I changed the filesystem to ext3 after partitioning and i also changed the fstab to ext3. But now when i boot i get some warning messages that the ext3 filesystem is mounted as ext2. What else must i change so that the system knows its ext3 and doesn't complain about it? The installation works quite well without any problems so far. Now i see the X screen after my first boot. So far so good. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973
Hi, slightly OT, sorry... On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 01:15 (+0200), Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: FYI, I just installed FSO testing (latest snapshot) on my Neo 1973. Looks - I like it! screen locker - I like it! How do you do that? For me, after an opkg upgrade with the fso-testing feeds pressing the AUX-button doesn't lock the screen anymore. Is there some other button/procedure now? Thx, /Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]
Since we're top posting... I just want to throw in that I really like OM 2008.8. After seeing all the problems people had with it when it came out I went to the newest Qtopia but I had issues with reception and using devices like headsets/speakerphone. I then decided to try OM 2008.8. At first the bugs bothered me, but then I learned it a bit. I haven't had the incoming call-cannot answer problem in a while. That bugged me the most. Now, I am only using the phone features and texting really at this point, but it imported all my contacts just fine. The battery life isn't outstanding but I am sure it will get better. All-in-all I think its decent. I had a hard time on occasions when going to dialer, then contacts then tapping the contact. It wouldn't always select the contact and go to the screen where I could place a call. I found that double tapping with my finger seems to always work, lets the phone know I am serious I guess hahaha. Anyway, I am grateful OM is here, I waited a long time with my Treo 650, not replacing it until the Neo came out. So far its not perfect, but its definitely a step in the right direction, and I have a ton of confidence its going to be fantastic in the next several months as things get worked out. Thanks again. And thanks to the community that has been so supportive. Steve Mosher wrote: bingo Michele Renda wrote: This type of comments are the type of comment that I hate most of all. Please let the people to work in peace, and if you want to make an appoint, please make in a constructive way. We all was knowing that OM 2008.8 was in very early development, and no one force you to use it. People like you bring firms to have a close development process. Regards Michele Renda Olivier Berger wrote: Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear community, here is the QA report which has been created before Om 2008.8 was released. We simply forgot to send this report to a public list because we were too busy with the release preparations. Sorry. SNIP Due to all these critical major bugs, from our testing team point of view: Not stable enough to release our Om 2008.8. The subject says it all. No need for more comments, I guess. Maybe I should have quoted the release announcement email too ! Regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Extended battery pack
Hi All, In order to use TangoGPS over extended periods, I created myself an extended battery pack for the Neo FreeRunner from bits and pieces I had lying around. Check out my blog post for instructions: http://helms-deep.cable.nu/~rwh/blog/?p=42 Cheers, Rob ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Extended battery pack
Hi community :) On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 12:31 +1000, Robert William Hutton wrote: In order to use TangoGPS over extended periods, I created myself an extended battery pack for the Neo FreeRunner from bits and pieces I had lying around. Check out my blog post for instructions: http://helms-deep.cable.nu/~rwh/blog/?p=42 Nice project, power everywhere where you can get AA batteries :) For those who don't want to build a battery pack or who are just to lazy to do that, here's a small rechargeable USB power pack, 2000mAh capacity and 1000mA output current, for 18,50 Euro: NAVILOCK 41406 http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=80419 And another one from APC, with similar specifications, but higher output current and an included USB charger, for 46,95 Euro: APC UPB10-EC http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=74033 I guess Reichelt is only interesting for Germany since you have to order at least for 150 Euro otherwise, and also shipping will be more expensive, but I'm sure you can find these or similar products in other shops. Happy Freerunning :) cu Korbi signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian Install failure: Hash Sum Mismatch
Joseph Reeves wrote: I'm using the 512 card that shipped with the gta01. I think it's the same as the one that came with the FreeRunner, although I lost that one whilst drunk in a Chicken Cottage (it was in my wallet after I had removed it from the phone to fix the GPS troubles). Sorry, but you can't just give us a smidgen of information like I lost that one whilst drunk in a Chicken Cottage without going into further detail. I've lost plenty of money from my wallet while errr whilst... drunk, but never a SD card and never in a chicken cottage, whatever the heck that is. - Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
