Re: shameless plug
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Wolfenstein 3D
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Re: [debian] preferred working kernel at the moment?
Fox Mulder a écrit : > Hi, > > i wonder which kernel is the "best" or lets say the most stable and > working für debian at the moment. Since i upgraded from the last 2.6.24 > kernels to the 2.6.28/29 i have more problems than benefits. :/ Hi, I've tried pretty much the same kernels for debian, and with pretty much the same problems you encountered. Right now I'm trying Koolu's Android's kernel; wifi works good, suspend does not, and no way to force 1000ma charging. I too, would like to have a "good" kernel for debian :-) -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is "SIM Toolkit" possible to support on the freerunner?
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2009, 14:13 +0100 schrieb Helge Hafting: >> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >>> Technically, SIM toolkit support is possible with the Calypso. >>> >>> I have commented previously about this, so please look my older posts >>> up; In a nutshell, STK is a heavy cross-layer spec, so adding it would >>> need quit some thought. >>> >>> FSO will not work on it, but appreciate patches. >> Is there hope of getting the necessary documentation for the gsm device >> in the freerunner? With a license that doesn't stand in the way of >> making a open-source app based on it? > > If you're interested in doing this, I'm sure we can work this out. > >> STK itself seems to be documented on the net, but each gsm device seems >> to do this differently. There is no standard on how to communicate STK >> to/from a gsm device. > > Correct. While the STK commands are thorougly documented in the specs, the AT > commands are device-specific. > I can collect the Calypso-specific information you need -- if you want to > work on that. I'm interested. I'd like to get this banking stuff working at least. That ought to get other "get some user input" apps working too. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hi Ed,
Just try to initiate data call but no success.
There is a strange symptom that is: If I use the same SIM but on other
mobile (Motorora Z8) I can hear the far end land-line modem sound respone
but if I use FR to call the same modem: (1) via AT commands I see no
response, both sound and response modem characters so can not use
expect(CONNECT) with ppp (2) via GUI, it drop the call.
My FR can do voice call normally.
Do you have any way to debug the status of data call while using AT
commands? I just know +CEER but it does not give much info.
Cordially,
Tuan
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Ed Kapitein wrote:
> Hi Tuan,
>
> I was able to make a datacall to a landline modem :-)
>
> So you can use your freerunner to dial in to an ISP if you like.
>
> i wil paste the "proof" of my success below.
> Now i just need to find a way to make it less expensive...
>
> Kind regards,
> Ed
>
>
> MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
> --dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string |
> awk -F '"' '{ print $2 }')
>
> pppd nodetach debug call inbel "${MODEM}"
>
> timeout set to 25 seconds
> send (ATE0^M)
> abort on (BUSY)
> abort on (DELAYED)
> abort on (NO ANSWER)
> abort on (NO DIALTONE)
> abort on (VOICE)
> abort on (ERROR)
> abort on (RINGING)
> expect (OK)
> ^M
> OK
> -- got it
>
> send (AT+CBST=0,0,1^M)
> expect (OK)
> ^M
> ^M
> OK
> -- got it
>
> send (AT+CR=1^M)
> expect (OK)
> ^M
> ^M
> OK
> -- got it
>
> send (atdt 1234567890^M)
> expect (CONNECT)
> ^M
> ^M
> +CR: REL ASYNC^M
> ^M
> CONNECT
> -- got it
>
> send (^M)
> expect (Login)
> ^M
> ^M
> Login
> -- got it
>
> send (isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom^m)
> expect (Password)
> : isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom^m
> Password
> -- got it
>
> send (your_isp_passwd^M)
> expect (L2TP)
> : ^M
> ^M^M
>L2TP
> -- got it
>
> send (/n/d^M)
> Serial connection established.
> using channel 11
> Using interface ppp0
> Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/4
> rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1
> ]
> sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x0]
> rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1
> [local:61.72.31.2e.6e.69.6b.2d.61.73.64]> < 17 04 59 3d>]
> sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 < 17 04 59 3d>]
> rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1
> ]
> rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2
> ]
> sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2
> ]
> sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x34d2bbd3]
> sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom"
> password=]
> rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x148b1bd]
> rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""]
> PAP authentication succeeded
> sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1
> ]
> sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x10.0.0.0> ]
> rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
> sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 ]
> rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x148b1bd c0 23 05 06]
> sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x34d2bbd3 00 00 00 00]
> rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x3 80 fd 01 01 00 15 12 06 00 00 00 00 1a 04 78 00
> 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f]
> rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 ]
> sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x20.0.0.0>]
> rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 ]
> sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 ]
> rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2
> ]
> sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3
> ]
> rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x3
> ]
> replacing old default route to usb0 [192.168.0.200]
> local IP address 217.149.216.138
> remote IP address 213.53.28.122
> primary DNS address 217.149.196.6
> secondary DNS address 217.149.192.6
> Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 1992)
> Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 1992), status = 0x0
> Terminating on signal 2
> Connect time 0.6 minutes.
> Sent 874 bytes, received 1113 bytes.
> restoring old default route to usb0 [192.168.0.200]
> Script /etc/ppp/ip-down started (pid 2005)
> sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "User request"]
> Script /etc/ppp/ip-down finished (pid 2005), status = 0x0
> rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2]
> Connection terminated.
>
>
>
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Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hi Tuan,
Strange that no connection is made to the landline modem.
you see no response, but dou you see the at commands echoed back?
if not use ate1 to see the responses.
you can restart /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd with the -v option and use logread
to see what is send and received from the modem.
If you use the motorola to call your FR, can you pick up the call with
the ATA command?
Do you see a "ring" message?
Good luck !
Ed
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 17:38 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote:
> Hi Ed,
> Just try to initiate data call but no success.
>
> There is a strange symptom that is: If I use the same SIM but on other
> mobile (Motorora Z8) I can hear the far end land-line modem sound
> respone but if I use FR to call the same modem: (1) via AT commands I
> see no response, both sound and response modem characters so can not
> use expect(CONNECT) with ppp (2) via GUI, it drop the call.
>
> My FR can do voice call normally.
>
> Do you have any way to debug the status of data call while using AT
> commands? I just know +CEER but it does not give much info.
>
> Cordially,
> Tuan
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Ed Kapitein wrote:
> Hi Tuan,
>
> I was able to make a datacall to a landline modem :-)
>
> So you can use your freerunner to dial in to an ISP if you
> like.
>
> i wil paste the "proof" of my success below.
> Now i just need to find a way to make it less expensive...
>
> Kind regards,
> Ed
>
>
> MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
> --dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar |
> grep string |
> awk -F '"' '{ print $2 }')
>
>
> pppd nodetach debug call inbel "${MODEM}"
><
>
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Re: Wolfenstein 3D
splendid! :) On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:56 AM, s wrote: > Hello. > Yesterday John Carmack released the source code > (ftp://www.idsoftware.com/idstuff/wolf3d/wolf3d_iphone_v1.0_src.zip) of > Wolfenstein 3D for iPhone/iPod. > Maybe someone could make a binary package for FR? =) > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Configuring neo as a Bluetooth Headset to SIP client
Hi all, I want to configure neo as a bluetooth headset for my linux PC SIP client so that i can receive my VOIP calls on my neo speakers and i can talk with my neo microphone! Is it possible without hardware changes? Give some directions to configure neo audio system to make it work. Thanks, Kumar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wolfenstein 3D
I'd say the Glamo (if 3d acceleration was working at all) doesn't have the power to handle this... -- Marcel Am Thursday 26 March 2009 14:06:08 schrieb Yorick Moko: > splendid! :) > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:56 AM, s wrote: > > Hello. > > Yesterday John Carmack released the source code > > (ftp://www.idsoftware.com/idstuff/wolf3d/wolf3d_iphone_v1.0_src.zip) of > > Wolfenstein 3D for iPhone/iPod. > > Maybe someone could make a binary package for FR? =) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wolfenstein 3D
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:56 AM, s wrote: > > > Hello. > > > Yesterday John Carmack released the source code > > > > (ftp://www.idsoftware.com/idstuff/wolf3d/wolf3d_iphone_v1.0_src.zip) of > > > Wolfenstein 3D for iPhone/iPod. > > > Maybe someone could make a binary package for FR? --- On Thu, 3/26/09, Marcel wrote: > I'd say the Glamo (if 3d acceleration was working at > all) doesn't have the > power to handle this... So I guess that you have not played Duke Nukem 3d or DOOM with your Freerunner right? :-) Perhaps it is a good time to work in the Quake 1 port ... Rafa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wolfenstein 3D
Am Thursday 26 March 2009 14:34:39 schrieb Rafael Ignacio Zurita: > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:56 AM, s wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > Yesterday John Carmack released the source code > > > > (ftp://www.idsoftware.com/idstuff/wolf3d/wolf3d_iphone_v1.0_src.zip) of > > > > > > Wolfenstein 3D for iPhone/iPod. > > > > Maybe someone could make a binary package for FR? > > --- On Thu, 3/26/09, Marcel wrote: > > I'd say the Glamo (if 3d acceleration was working at > > all) doesn't have the > > power to handle this... > > So I guess that you have not played Duke Nukem 3d or > DOOM with your Freerunner right? :-) > > Perhaps it is a good time to work in the Quake 1 port ... Hmm. maybe I should really try that :D -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wolfenstein 3D
--- On Thu, 3/26/09, Marcel wrote: > > --- On Thu, 3/26/09, Marcel wrote: > > > I'd say the Glamo (if 3d acceleration was working at > > > all) doesn't have the > > > power to handle this... > > > > So I guess that you have not played Duke Nukem 3d or > > DOOM with your Freerunner right? :-) > > > > Perhaps it is a good time to work in the Quake 1 port > ... > > Hmm. maybe I should really try that :D For Doom: http://unsyncopated.com/BrainSolvent/Doom%20Port For Duke Nukem 3D use the Charles-Henri's version: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_3D Rafa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Configuring neo as a Bluetooth Headset to SIP client
Kumar writes: > I want to configure neo as a bluetooth headset for my linux PC SIP client so > that i can receive my VOIP > calls on my neo speakers and i can talk with my neo microphone! > > Is it possible without hardware changes? Give some directions to configure > neo audio system to make it > work. Hi, you might have some luck with software like [1]. You need to use voip state file for this idea to work. [1] http://voxel.at/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=ProjectBluezHandsfree -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[All] Boot with power button freezes the Neo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, this is a problem I've had since November 2008, passing through OM2008.08, OM2008.09 OM2008.12, Debian, SHR-unstable, SHR-testing, so I could assume that it depends from uboot. If I power up the neo pressing for (more or less) 8 seconds the power button, the "Openmoko orange & black screen" appears, and here it remains. To start _any_ distribution I have to power it up in NAND and select "boot", and it makes difficult to power up the Neo in some situations where I could use only one hand, for example while I'm driving car. So, is there a way to configure Neo to start automatically SHR with power button pression? SHR is flashed normally in the phone, and I use uSD only for TangoGPS maps storage. Thanks :) - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia projects contributor* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org "Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software" GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknLo38ACgkQRi2TsGSC4FYiDQCePkRskRF91JsG6LcxiNHsE/EY vqgAniPKTVbFZ2/KCAXufArT2a/fCoPq =BEX0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Boot with power button freezes the Neo
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi list, > this is a problem I've had since November 2008, passing through > OM2008.08, OM2008.09 OM2008.12, Debian, SHR-unstable, SHR-testing, so I > could assume that it depends from uboot. > > If I power up the neo pressing for (more or less) 8 seconds the power > button, the "Openmoko orange & black screen" appears, and here it remains. > > To start _any_ distribution I have to power it up in NAND and select > "boot", and it makes difficult to power up the Neo in some situations > where I could use only one hand, for example while I'm driving car. > > So, is there a way to configure Neo to start automatically SHR with > power button pression? SHR is flashed normally in the phone, and I use > uSD only for TangoGPS maps storage. > > Thanks :) > - -- > Francesco de Virgilio > I have the same since I tried debian on it. I can remember that debian wiki requested some changes the way FR boots and this is due to that. I was too lazy though to search more in order to revoke those alternations! Cheers Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Boot with power button freezes the Neo
first idea would be to check inhowfar the boot entries for nand (pwr) and nor (aux+pwr) differ. next thing would be to update the uboot. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Boot with power button freezes the Neo
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Re: [All] Boot with power button freezes the Neo
well, basically boot to the boot menu (of nand and nor respectivele, requires different sequneces of pwr and aux) and when the menu appears connect and have a look at the menu. i don't remember what tool exactly i used to connect, and due to the really fragmented information in the wiki i am unable to find out (could it have been cu?). but easier (and without the hassle with timeouts and so forth) might be the approach described here: > http://markmail.org/message/d2abi2nm5vms3unh in more detail here > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot#What_if_I_borked_my_bootloader_environment_and_don.27t_get_a_prompt_anymore.3F basically, fetch the menu and have a look at it or post it here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Boot with power button freezes the Neo
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graphical nethack for freerunner (alpha version released)
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/ Warnign: Not yet playable! At last I got inspiration to compile graphical Nethack for Freerunner. It is actually gtk2-hack ported to maemo. So it has dependeries on libosso and libhildon, but I got them compiled from OpenEmbedded. Tested with OM2008.12. Nethack-maemo is almost keyboardless. Nokia Internet Tablet has couple of hw-buttons, so this is not yet playable, because Freerunner doesn't have these buttons. And element-layout must be changed, maybe some tuning of icons, font size etc. And there are two sets of graphics, but I got only uglier to work. So let me know if you are interested in play this game someday, or even better if you want help me to get this happen (help on planning is important as help on coding). -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Configuring neo as a Bluetooth Headset to SIP client
> I want to configure neo as a bluetooth headset for my linux PC SIP client so > that i can receive my VOIP calls on my neo speakers and i can talk with my > neo microphone! Interesting. I wonder, tho: why do you prefer such a setup over one where the FR itself runs the VOIP program? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Fennec web browser recipe
It's alpha 2 version. It's not usable on FR and everyone can build it with bitbake (after installing some libs on host, due to bugs). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode
Because display and GPS chip may be powered on for a long while, I
choose to test them here.
Phone is GTA02v5. Distribution is latest SHR unstable, with almost 0% CPU load.
No devices(WIFI, GSM, etc) opened before this test. Battery capacity
is about 88%.
My test method is, for example: set display background light to 100%,
then get battery current every 5 seconds for a while...
To power on GPS chip: write 1 to file
"/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron".
To set brightness: write (brightness_percent / 100 * 255) to file
"/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/brightness"
To get "current" battery power: read file
"/sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now".
- It seems kernel update this file every 30 seconds
- the output unit is uA.
To enable/activate FixNow sleep mode: write UBX binary messages
CFG-FXN and CFG-RXM to /dev/ttySAC1.
- when activate, write dummy packet and RXM-POSREQ message:
{ 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xB5,
0x62, 0x02, 0x40, 0x00, 0x00, 0x42, 0xC8 }
Here is the results:
1. when GPS chip is powered off, test brightness vs. battery current:
* brightness = 100%: battery current ~= 203 mA
* brightness = 75%: battery current ~= 153 mA
* brightness = 50%: battery current ~= 116 mA
* brightness = 25%: battery current ~= 101 mA
* brightness = 0%: battery current ~= 95 mA
2. when brightness is 0%, test GPS power state vs. battery current:
* GPS normal power mode: battery current ~= about 144 mA
* GPS FixNow sleep mode: battery current ~= about 97 mA when it goes to sleep
* GPS FixNow sleep mode: battery current ~= about 146 mA when it is waken up
>From test #1, (assume battery voltage is constant) we can see:
1) the naked OS with almost zero CPU load and 0% brightness consumes ~95 mA.
2) brightness greatly affect battery life, 100% brightness consumes ~108 mA
3) comparing to 100% brightness,
25% brightness saves 95% power,
50% brightness saves 80% power,
75% brightness saves 55% power
>From test #2, we can see:
1) GPS chip consumes about 50 mA when run in normal mode
2) GPS chip consumes near 2 mA when it goes to FixNow sleep
I've been testing FixNow for a while. Now I doubt whether it is useful
for phone users, because:
1) to save power, we can't frequently wake up FixNow from sleep,
because on each wakeup it tries getting fixes for a while then goes to
sleep (off).
2) the position data is not accurate just after wakeup, so we have to
poll for a while, if we're lucky enough we get good fix.
I think, FixNow can only be possibly used in this kind of scenario on
Freerunner:
-- For a long trip, we need log position data (say every 3~5 minutes,
I think it's bad to set the frequency less than 1 minute).
A logger sets GPS chip to FixNow mode, frequently wakeup it to get fix.
To save power, we set display brightness to 0% by locking screen,
but OS still consumes 95 mA, leaving at most ~10 hours battery life!
How to utilize FixNow feature?
Can we make the power consumption of "naked" OS down to tens of mA?
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Re: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:21:59AM +0800, Qingyou Meng wrote:
>To save power, we set display brightness to 0% by locking screen,
> but OS still consumes 95 mA, leaving at most ~10 hours battery life!
You must have done something wrong. I frequently test power comsumption
and I get 54 mA on a fully charged battery, dropping slowly as the battery
discharges[1] and nearly 20 hours battery life.
FWIW, I test with this command on a Debian installation:
sleep 120 && cat
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/{status,current_now,voltage_now,capacity}
[1] It's supposed to be the other way around - current increasing as the
battery discharges - but there's a current leak somewhere. It was down to 46
mA not too long ago with a kernel from the andy-tracking branch.
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Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hi Ed,
My answers are bellow.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ed Kapitein wrote:
> Hi Tuan,
>
> Strange that no connection is made to the landline modem.
> you see no response, but dou you see the at commands echoed back?
>>> When I make data calls, I see AT cmd echo back with OK --> modem acepts
cmd.
>
> if not use ate1 to see the responses.
>>> I always use ATE1 at fisrt.
>
> you can restart /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd with the -v option and use logread
> to see what is send and received from the modem.
>>> Woop, I never see this process via ps. I use qtextend and before doing
things with socat I always shutdown qtextend so I can connect to
/dev/ttySA0. Do I need this before making data calls? Actually I can make
voice calls by ATs without this.
>
> If you use the motorola to call your FR, can you pick up the call with
> the ATA command?
>>> Can, after seeing RING, I use ATH to accept.
>
> Do you see a "ring" message?
>
>
> Good luck !
> Ed
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 17:38 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote:
> > Hi Ed,
> > Just try to initiate data call but no success.
> >
> > There is a strange symptom that is: If I use the same SIM but on other
> > mobile (Motorora Z8) I can hear the far end land-line modem sound
> > respone but if I use FR to call the same modem: (1) via AT commands I
> > see no response, both sound and response modem characters so can not
> > use expect(CONNECT) with ppp (2) via GUI, it drop the call.
> >
> > My FR can do voice call normally.
> >
> > Do you have any way to debug the status of data call while using AT
> > commands? I just know +CEER but it does not give much info.
> >
> > Cordially,
> > Tuan
> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Ed Kapitein wrote:
> > Hi Tuan,
> >
> > I was able to make a datacall to a landline modem :-)
> >
> > So you can use your freerunner to dial in to an ISP if you
> > like.
> >
> > i wil paste the "proof" of my success below.
> > Now i just need to find a way to make it less expensive...
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
> > --dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
> > org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar |
> > grep string |
> > awk -F '"' '{ print $2 }')
> >
> >
> > pppd nodetach debug call inbel "${MODEM}"
> ><
>
> >
>
>
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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:50, Steve Mosher wrote: > We are just in the process of working out those details. I've shipped > the parts to fix phones to a few individuals and disty who have asked. Have here, at Brazil, anyone? Between 180 millions of people, and a huge country, we have around 20 FRs (and everyone thinks like we are not part of the America). Please, sell to us a board with the fix and *maybe* an upgrade! []s Lewis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
