Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

[Adolph J. Vogel]

> seems rather chaotic if we all start a thread to vote for an app,
> aren't there places to make free polls?
> just an idea

I agree and suggest using www.doodle.com. Its an online poling thing :) We 
have used it quite a bit here at work. Only the person that makes the poll 
needs to register an account, people can then take the poll with very little 
effort.

I can setup a poll or two for the other applications if thats desired?

Adolph



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Re: Intone 0.63 release

[Biagio Marino]

Hello,
 
>  Can you tell me what the error is? That button is supposed the change the
> view to album art.

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ intone
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup()
without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup()
without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup()
without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
Segmentation fault

When I click on this button intone the output is "Segmentation fault".


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Re: WSOD

[Kosa]

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It might work... I'll try that tomorrow morining. I already have the new
one right here on my desk, but I could use two of them to do lots of
funny things :)

I'll let you now :)

Kosa

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Thomas HOCEDEZ escribió:
> Kosa a écrit :
> 
>   
 Don't fear... It won't be damaged for only 1minute and in tap Water. 
 Salted water (sea) can damage it.
 
> Yes it can, My FR got dropped into the sea and it's dead. It still turns
> on an I get a bright-white screen as the WSOD, and the wierd thing, it
> still gets the charged, but I can't do nothing. I get no 'nor' nor nand.
> 
> The good part, It happend two months ago and I just got a new one into
> my office today, I'll picl it up tomorrow and I'll be happy again.
> 
> 
> Kosa
> 
> - Un mundo mejor es posible -
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> A pretty stange thing... Yesterday evening I opened my moko to show to 
> some moko users the #1024 fix. I closed it, and  WSOD ! It means : 
> no nand boot, no nor boot, only white screen but keep charging (red 
> power button)
>  I was a bit affraid of loosing my dear moko. I opened it agin, removing 
> Wifi module and
> opening the GSM can (doing exactly what I did last night). Then I put 
> everything together, peacefully (I mean before my morning coffee), 
> blowing everywhere to remove some dust. (?)
> Finally, I crossed my fingers, touch a rabbit leg, and pressed the power 
> button... Ta-da ! It booted again ... No more WSOD, a nice 
> BlackScreenWithConfusingWhiteText was rolling.

> If it can help someone.

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Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

[Adam Wang]

Hi,

   To me: The clearly most useful part of the bq27000 is the current
measurement. You get what seems to be a reasonably accurate measure of the
current flow to/from the battery updated every 25 s or so. It's much more
practical than an external ammeter: No need to open the case and fiddle with
probes, you can measure battery current while in the train, at work or
wherever. Having it built in makes accurate current measurement available to
many more people in a lot more places.

   Here's a few examples where the current measurements have proven useful:
1) Tracking down that current leak from the serial ports into the Calypso.
2) Finding that 8 mA apmd current leak Debian used to have.
3) Confirming the X.org server screen blanker current leak of 38 mA.
4) Measuring the effectiveness of reducing CPU clock and core voltage.

  
It's an good easy way proposed, it would be probably get the related 
current leak to spyware.
But I just wondering that is there anyone who really did a whole current 
measurement about
battery's consumption; not only indicators are partly in percentage. Any 
exact plot of current
curve have illustrated by CC/CV mode [1]? then compared to battery's 
specification to check?
I am searching that is there an existing linux software that it can 
remote DMM measure to do

real current/voltage measure. Hope someone knows.

Adam


   Hopefully it will also help to curb assorted forms of spyware because
they will be easier to detect with the power consumption figures readily
available.
  

[1] http://focus.ti.com/lit/ml/sprp569/sprp569.pdf


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Re: Intone 0.63 release

[c_c]

Hi,

icp wrote:
> 
> on SHR-U i have this error when i click the first button (the button
> whit a "square").
> 
> How i can fix this?
> 
 Can you tell me what the error is? That button is supposed the change the
view to album art.
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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Vinzenz Hersche]

Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 23.01:51 schrieben Sie:
> I really wonder how omitting the list from CC can help you prepare a
> petition.
>
normaly it send answered mails from the list also back to the list... don't 
know why it does that by your mail
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:52:24PM +0200, Vinzenz Hersche wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 22.38:30 schrieben Sie:
> > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:27:21PM +0200, Vinzenz Hersche wrote:
> > > > argh... :s
> > > > mmh, i think, it could work, if more then the half community would
> > > > join this and wrote a letter (with real paper, for this, there isn't
> > > > a spamfilter...:) )
> > >
> > > Did something like that ever worked? :(
> >
> > yeah. principe of petition, works in switzerland as democratic action and
> > sometimes also on companis
>
> I can't see how it can work on atheros here. I'd prefer finding inside
> contacts to understand what's going on about it and how much it would cost
> for them to do anything.
>
i think, if we are "loud" enough, it could work (also with press.. or do you 
belive, atheros wants a image-damage for bad quality?), but also a inside-
contact would be great. why not both?
> > > > and one more technicaly idea; i read about the driver from openwrt.
> > > > it works realy good, as i know...
> > >
> > > It's the same driver without any tweaks AFAIK.
> >
> > mmh, i just shortly read about it and i think, it must works good
> > (because it's a router-sw), but may it's because of kernel 2.6.30...
>
> I guess it's exactly the same. .30 doesn't change anything about it.
>
ok, so may i'm wrong. i like hope.. :)
> > > > as last of ideas: how much are about 100-200 pieces of a
> > > > openmoko-compatible wlan-chip with a good quality?
> > >
> > > I'm yet to find any.
> >
> > cool. may it's could be a communitywork... which are the criterias?
>
> Well, it depends. If you want a ready-to-use module probably it's just
> impossible. If you're ready to design PCB for some chip among with RF
> components, then SDIO support and low power and size would be the main
> requirements.
>
phu, ok, i must learn there something.. but it's good to know..
> > and at the end; may someone could build extensions with chips from
> > gizmoforyou as example...
>
> I'm not an appropriate person to answer this qustion, you should have CC'd
> the list.
yeah, i just say this for future.. because of no edge-support.. with these 
open components from openmoko, we could integrate new components.. but this is 
also on movement, i think (openhw-alliance..)

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Paul Fertser]

Vikas Saurabh  writes:
>> next, where does one get fsoraw from (the ticket links to the sources, but
>> i never actually saw a binary, let alone a package somewhere)?
>
> Its available in SHR-U repo...

And mrmoku just confirmed it'll be included in the image by default. :)

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Paul Fertser]

"arne anka"  writes:
>> to use the method described at FSO_Resources wiki page, then the bug
>> doesn't surface.
>
> at least the page mentioned (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources,  
> i guess, but due to the plethora of wikis out there, "wiki page" might  
> refer to soemthing totally different) does not mention wifi issues or  
> "workaround" in any way.

I assume default wiki is wiki.openmoko.org, sorry for being
unclear. Here's a quote from the page you mentioned:

"
Especially recommended for WiFi since due to the bugs in the firmware
and the driver full power-cycle of the module is often advantageous.

Example command (works for open, WEP and WPA/WPA2 networks,
automatically determining the network it can connect to, just add all
the networks you use to the config):

fsoraw -r WiFi -- wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -Dwext
-c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
"

> mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage  
> org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled

Unnecessary and in this particular case harmful. I thought the page
implies that clearly enough. :(

> next, where does one get fsoraw from (the ticket links to the sources, but  
> i never actually saw a binary, let alone a package somewhere)?

SHR feeds already have that. Can't say about OM2009 -- ask Angus or
other guys interested.

> last but not least: if that fsoraw thing indeed is some kind of  
> workaround, it should be easy to include it into fso by default ...

FSO is not a distro anymore and fsoraw is a convenience tool, not
necessary for the framework to function. So it's up to the distro
maintainers to include or not include it by default.

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Vikas Saurabh]

> next, where does one get fsoraw from (the ticket links to the sources, but
> i never actually saw a binary, let alone a package somewhere)?

Its available in SHR-U repo...And since the bitbake is already there
in the svn[1], I think the distributions should go ahead and include
it...iirc, FSO is no longer in distribution business

--Vikas

1 - http://noko.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/noko/trunk/fsoraw/

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QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

[Christian Rüb]

Hi,

QSuunto-Lite is an application to download your logged dives from your Suunto 
dive computer or view previously dowloaded ones. More info here: [1]
I hope to find interested people who want to test my new version (before it 
gets a version number).
As always you can find prebuild packages in this repo [2] and also new 
screenshots here [3]

For those of you who do not own a DC or do not have cables/adapters yet, you 
can use the samples provided in divetools-ab-samples.
I will also provide a fake download tool to simulate a download soon.

Please send bug reports :)

Planned features are on the wiki page.

Whats new?
 * Stylesheet(s)
 * Download via GUI (divetools-ab needed)
 * More settings

Cheers,
 Christian

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QSuunto-Lite
[2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
[3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[arne anka]

> to use the method described at FSO_Resources wiki page, then the bug
> doesn't surface.

that sentence has been repeated several times now, and yet -- i don't  
really understand what exactly it means.
at least the page mentioned (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources,  
i guess, but due to the plethora of wikis out there, "wiki page" might  
refer to soemthing totally different) does not mention wifi issues or  
"workaround" in any way.
are you speaking about

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage  
org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled
fsoraw -r WiFi -- wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -Dwext  
-c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

next, where does one get fsoraw from (the ticket links to the sources, but  
i never actually saw a binary, let alone a package somewhere)?

last but not least: if that fsoraw thing indeed is some kind of  
workaround, it should be easy to include it into fso by default ...

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Paul Fertser]

Vinzenz Hersche  writes:
> ok, them may we should write all mails, or better real letters to atheros.. 
> they made the chip, so they should fix these fucking things. if they sell 
> something, they have to make it working!

Well, imagine they sold about 20k modules to OM. Do you think they
care about it?.. I wished they did.

You might not know about it but Werner's already contacted them and
they even confirmed some firmware bugs. No action from their side
followed and unlikely to follow. Probably if you have some inside
contacts it can work out but otherwise i can't see any chances.

> 2.6.29 kernel workaround
> On OM 2.6.29 kernels wifi is broken, software putting down the interface 
> (e.g. 
> wpa supplicant in some cases) will break ar6000 module. A workaround has to 
> be 
> implemented and activable in the configuration file.

It's not yet fixed but i hope it'll be fixed soon. The workaround is
to use the method described at FSO_Resources wiki page, then the bug
doesn't surface.

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Vinzenz Hersche]

Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 21.51:04 schrieben Sie:
> Vinzenz Hersche  writes:
> > Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 10.53:43 schrieb Paul Fertser:
> >> Yogiz  writes:
> >> > I hope it is. I'd really want to finally see the wifi driver
> >> > supporting Master mode (Access point). As far as I understand, it's
> >> > fully possible to implement it.
> >>
> >> You might have as well looked at the commit log and loose all the
> >> hope. If you're talking about ar6000 driver then there're no chances
> >> it will support master (or monitor) mode ever. I don't see why you
> >> think it might be possible.
> >
> > then please help me someone to learn the necessary-things about
> > kernel-hacking (i know, it's a lot of work!) to fix this  bugs in
> > wifi?
>
> I tell you the most nasty bugs are in firmware. Which we don't have
> sources for and don't know a way to update anyway. Blame Atheros.
>
> > i hope, the kernel-hackers who written the driver wakes up and fix
> > this soon.
>
> Unlikely. Originally written by Atheros.
>
> > bad from fic...
>
> Openmoko Inc. is not FIC! And OM can't be held responsible for
> Atheros's fuck ups.

ok, them may we should write all mails, or better real letters to atheros.. 
they made the chip, so they should fix these fucking things. if they sell 
something, they have to make it working!

but i also find something from the nwa-article in openmoko-wiki...

2.6.29 kernel workaround
On OM 2.6.29 kernels wifi is broken, software putting down the interface (e.g. 
wpa supplicant in some cases) will break ar6000 module. A workaround has to be 
implemented and activable in the configuration file.

is this now  up2date-thing or are there workarounds?

because if not, how it works with kernel 2.6.30?

who would help to write atheros? hope, i'm not alone with the wish of a 
working wireless..

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Paul Fertser]

Vinzenz Hersche  writes:
> Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 10.53:43 schrieb Paul Fertser:
>> Yogiz  writes:
>> > I hope it is. I'd really want to finally see the wifi driver supporting
>> > Master mode (Access point). As far as I understand, it's fully possible
>> > to implement it.
>>
>> You might have as well looked at the commit log and loose all the
>> hope. If you're talking about ar6000 driver then there're no chances
>> it will support master (or monitor) mode ever. I don't see why you
>> think it might be possible.
>
> then please help me someone to learn the necessary-things about 
> kernel-hacking 
> (i know, it's a lot of work!) to fix this  bugs in wifi?

I tell you the most nasty bugs are in firmware. Which we don't have
sources for and don't know a way to update anyway. Blame Atheros.

> i hope, the kernel-hackers who written the driver wakes up and fix
> this soon. 

Unlikely. Originally written by Atheros. 

> bad from fic...

Openmoko Inc. is not FIC! And OM can't be held responsible for
Atheros's fuck ups.

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Vinzenz Hersche]

Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 10.53:43 schrieb Paul Fertser:
> Yogiz  writes:
> > I hope it is. I'd really want to finally see the wifi driver supporting
> > Master mode (Access point). As far as I understand, it's fully possible
> > to implement it.
>
> You might have as well looked at the commit log and loose all the
> hope. If you're talking about ar6000 driver then there're no chances
> it will support master (or monitor) mode ever. I don't see why you
> think it might be possible.
then please help me someone to learn the necessary-things about kernel-hacking 
(i know, it's a lot of work!) to fix this  bugs in wifi?

i hope, the kernel-hackers who written the driver wakes up and fix this soon. 
but as it seem, they like it more to sleep :(

bad from fic...

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Re: [SHR] opkg upgrade (10 Aug 2009)

[Konstantin]

D. Gassen wrote:
> I had the same problem but I solved that (for me) by reinstalling a  
> couple of packages:
> 
> opkg install -force-reinstall libgsm0710mux0 libfsotransport0 \
>libfsoframework0 libfsobasics0 fso-abyss fsousaged \
>   libgsm0710mux-config frameworkd frameworkd-config-shr \
>   libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 \
>   shr-contacts shr-messages shr-dialer ophonekitd
> 
> (I hope I got them all, I didn't use one command but several)
> 
> After that the phone connected properly to the GSM network, was able  
> to read all my contacts and I could make and receive calls again.
> 
> Dirk

That's exactly what I love about the openmoko community. Thank you very much,
that did the trick for me, too! :)

Regards,
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Re: Intone 0.63 release

[Biagio Marino]

Hello,

on SHR-U i have this error when i click the first button (the button
whit a "square").

How i can fix this?


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Re: enlightenment still crashing

[Michal Brzozowski]

2009/8/12 Al Johnson 
>
> Then please file a bug report. The devs can't keep track of everything
> mentioned on the list, but can easily get a list of outstanding bugs on the
> tracker.


http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/398

Sorry for being lazy and not filing the ticket earlier :-)

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Re: [SHR] opkg upgrade (10 Aug 2009)

[D. Gassen]

I had the same problem but I solved that (for me) by reinstalling a  
couple of packages:

opkg install -force-reinstall libgsm0710mux0 libfsotransport0 \
 libfsoframework0 libfsobasics0 fso-abyss fsousaged \
libgsm0710mux-config frameworkd frameworkd-config-shr \
libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 \
shr-contacts shr-messages shr-dialer ophonekitd

(I hope I got them all, I didn't use one command but several)

After that the phone connected properly to the GSM network, was able  
to read all my contacts and I could make and receive calls again.

Dirk

On 12.08.2009, at 13:28, Konstantin wrote:

> Davide Scaini wrote:
>> today upgrade fixed the thing for me...
>> d
>>
>
> Unfortuneately, GSM still doesn't work for me after the upgrade.
> The alternate image (SHR stable) I am using via NAND works okay,  
> though.
> /var/log/ophonekitd.log just says
> "GSM not available, try again in 5s"
> a few times, then a few
> "idle notifier state handler called, id 1"
> with verious ids, and the SIM entry dialog never pops up. :(
> Anyone else with that problem?
>
> Regards,
> Konstantin
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Re: [ANN] Freerunner GTA02A7 on regular sales

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

Best for you both too :)
Tuxbrain also has A7 in stock to sell :)
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (7 Votes so far)

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 12:29 -0500 schrieb The Digital Pioneer:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:48 AM, HighCat 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Marcel-2 wrote:
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 13:25 +0200 schrieb Bernd
> Prünster:
> >> rakshat hooja schrieb:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel
> pisze:
> >> > > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb
> KaZeR:
> >> > > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> >> > >
> >> > > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for
> Neon.
> >> > > 2 Votes so far.
> >> > +1
> >> > 3 Votes
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > +1
> >> > 4 votes.
> >> +1
> >> 5 votes
> >
> > 6 votes, Thomas Franck voted in the forked thread.
> >
> 
> So, with mine it's 7
> 
> I confess, I have not read the Hall of Fame thread carefully, so I'm
> not sure if there are rules of eligibility for voting, but in the
> event that there are not (or that I meet them) then...
> Neon++;

No, there are no rules, we're all equal (kinda...) :D

So we got 10 votes with the two others in the thread about large
images... or 9? Okay, we need something reasonable for voting. The idea
about discussing here and voting on the discussion page looks promising.
Anyway, I'm going to add a block for neon.

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Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!

[Michele Brocco]

The same here. Fortunately everything is working fine again.

On 8/12/09, c_c  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>   Well, things have just started working. Finally! Lots of updates - and the
> new FSO usage daemon.
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (7 Votes so far)

[The Digital Pioneer]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:48 AM, HighCat  wrote:

>
>
>
> Marcel-2 wrote:
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 13:25 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
> >> rakshat hooja schrieb:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> >> > > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> >> > > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> >> > >
> >> > > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> >> > > 2 Votes so far.
> >> > +1
> >> > 3 Votes
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > +1
> >> > 4 votes.
> >> +1
> >> 5 votes
> >
> > 6 votes, Thomas Franck voted in the forked thread.
> >
>
> So, with mine it's 7
>

I confess, I have not read the Hall of Fame thread carefully, so I'm not
sure if there are rules of eligibility for voting, but in the event that
there are not (or that I meet them) then...
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Re: [SHR] opkg upgrade (10 Aug 2009)

[Konstantin]

Davide Scaini wrote:
> today upgrade fixed the thing for me...
> d
> 

Unfortuneately, GSM still doesn't work for me after the upgrade.
The alternate image (SHR stable) I am using via NAND works okay, though.
/var/log/ophonekitd.log just says
"GSM not available, try again in 5s"
a few times, then a few
"idle notifier state handler called, id 1"
with verious ids, and the SIM entry dialog never pops up. :(
Anyone else with that problem?

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Re: [SHR] opkg upgrade (10 Aug 2009)

[Davide Scaini]

today upgrade fixed the thing for me...
d

On 8/11/09, Adam Jimerson  wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 06:29:49 am Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
>>
>> The answer is: read, before you do. It was said everywhere: don't opkg
>> upgrade! Latest unstable image is the last good working ATM :P
>
> If by latest unstable image you mean the one released on the 8th of August
> then that wasn't working for me as well GSM wouldn't come on, screen would
> not
> dim, and the phone didn't show that it was charting or not via the led light
> on the power button or the battery icon on the top shelf.   I hope that a
> update to fix this problem will be released soon.
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Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!

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Hi,
  Well, things have just started working. Finally! Lots of updates - and the
new FSO usage daemon.
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

[Thomas Zimmermann]

Am Mittwoch 12 August 2009 17:34:24 schrieb c_c:
> Hi,
>   I agree - it does seem rather chaotic. We should move to a poll.
>
>   Here are my candidates (obviously limited by what I use):-
>
>   Neon, Orrery, numptyphysics, sms-sentry
I suggest to discuss programs on ML and just move the vote to the Talk page of 
the wiki.

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

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> seems rather chaotic if we all start a thread to vote for an app,
> aren't there places to make free polls?
Good idea, but would be nice if i don't need to register yet another
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

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Hi,
  I agree - it does seem rather chaotic. We should move to a poll.

  Here are my candidates (obviously limited by what I use):-
 
  Neon, Orrery, numptyphysics, sms-sentry
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Re: [ANN] Freerunner GTA02A7 on regular sales

[Timo Jyrinki]

2009/8/12 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller :
> we are happy to announce that we and our partner TRISOFT now have the
> GTA02A7 models on regular sale and can ship from stock.

Great! If I manage to break my FreeRunner at any point of time (I had
a good attempt with some snow earlier this year), I'm happy to know I
can select FreeRunner also as my next phone ;)

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

[Yorick Moko]

+1

seems rather chaotic if we all start a thread to vote for an app,
aren't there places to make free polls?
just an idea

(I would propose openBmap, Orrery, openvibe, navit, qwo, literki,
shr-settings :) and this just from the top of my head)


On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Thomas Franck wrote:

> HighCat wrote:
> > I'd vote for Neon too, but looks like it's not enough stable (large
> images
> > on SHR, py2.6)
> >
> > The bug:
> >
> http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=255&group_id=239&atid=994
>
> Hmm.. I can open my 2048x1536 (~700k) pics just fine.. (SHR, neon 1.0.0-r0)
>
> I vote +1, too.. :)
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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:09:44PM +0200, Adolph J. Vogel wrote:
> Rui, what kernel are you using?

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ uname -a
Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Sun Aug 2 12:17:54 CEST 2009 armv4tl 
unknown

(which I think is the most recent uImage available on 2009/08/08).

With the shr-image and uImage from 2009/07/21 it was the same.

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Adolph J. Vogel]

Rui, what kernel are you using?

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:04:26PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  writes:
> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:56:26PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
> >> Bernhard Reiter  writes:
> >> > CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
> >> > Trying to associate with  (SSID='' freq=2437 MHz)
> >> > Associated with 
> >> > WPA: Key negotiation completed with  [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP]
> >> > CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to  completed (auth)
> >> > [id=0 id_str=]
> >> >
> >> > But unfortunately, I still can't ping my router, nor can I ping the
> >> > FreeRunner from my laptop either.
> >> 
> >> You're supposed to somehow set IP for eth0 after that (usually with
> >> the help of DHCP client). I really wonder why it's not obvious :S
> >
> > You're also supposed to have an SSID setup before using a DHCP client.
> >
> > At least for me that NEVER happens :|
> 
> wpa_supplicant does that for you. I'm yet to see a single case when it
> couldn't.

Somehow people keep missing the point...

With Mokonnect that NEVER happens.

Wifi works just fine, Mofi sets it up without a problem.

I'm quite sure wpa_supplicat hand made config will work as well.

> >> Also some APs require "wmiconfig -ieth0 --power=maxperf" trick to
> >> work.
> >
> > I always run that.
> 
> Eats battery like mad. I suggest using this only as a last resort.

I know, it lasted two hours last I tried, but at least it's reliable :)

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Al Johnson]

On Wednesday 12 August 2009, Paul Fertser wrote:
> "Adolph J. Vogel"  writes:
> > Im sorry if this is an obvious question, but what kernel is wifi bug
> > free?
>
> There's no such kernel in existance.
>
> And wifi firmware is not bugfree and most probably will never
> be. Blame Canada^W Atheros. Or buy a decent usb wifi dongle. :(

Given that 2.6.28/9 has had at least one kernel bug with wifi support on the 
FR it isn't unreasonable to ask whether the currently distributed kernels have 
all the known bug fixes applied. It wouldn't be the first time that known bug 
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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Paul Fertser]

"Adolph J. Vogel"  writes:
> Im sorry if this is an obvious question, but what kernel is wifi bug
> free?

There's no such kernel in existance.

And wifi firmware is not bugfree and most probably will never
be. Blame Canada^W Atheros. Or buy a decent usb wifi dongle. :(

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Adolph J. Vogel]

> Please try it and report if it solves your problem, if possible use a
> kernel with no wifi bugs.

Im sorry if this is an obvious question, but what kernel is wifi bug free? Im 
assuming that the kernel from SHR-unstable is?

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Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] opkg not found!

[Nicola Mfb]

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Tony Berth wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I got the latest SHR unstable and when trying to run 'opkg' I get:

Some patches were applied in the last months on the shr opkg, breaking
here and there, some reverts, some repatches and so on.
One of the symptom is the missing link to opkg, the out of memory/fork
problems, difficulties in upgrades etc.
Until some days ago the entire build system was broken and not able to
produce bootable images.
As now I can see new shr images I suppose they are working hard on that ;)

As of human curiosity I'd like to know the reason to apply patches to
opkg as other OE distros with old version of it seems to not suffer
for that problem, and what will happen to that patches where
shr-import will be pushed to oe.dev.
No flame please, I want only to understand a bit more ;)

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (8 Votes so far)

[Christian Rüb]

On Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 13:48:53 HighCat wrote:
> Marcel-2 wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 13:25 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
> >> rakshat hooja schrieb:
> >> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> >> > > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> >> > > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> >> > >
> >> > > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> >> > > 2 Votes so far.
> >> >
> >> > +1
> >> > 3 Votes
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > +1
> >> > 4 votes.
> >>
> >> +1
> >> 5 votes
> >
> > 6 votes, Thomas Franck voted in the forked thread.
>
> So, with mine it's 7
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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Nicola Mfb]

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> hi,
>
> using shr-u and mokonnect, i get a timeout when trying to connect to my
> "managed" wpa-secured home wlan router (while it is trying to setup
> dhcp, though things work fine with my laptop). is this some well-known
> issue or do i have to investigate my setup? (any debugging hints?) and
> what is the "rsn" encryption option that i get by default after a
> network scan but can't select in the list of encryption ways?

Hi Bernard, I'm try to address all wlan problems together and coding a
wifi manager prototype, that at some point may evolve in a freerunner
dedicated network manager with a splitted gui.
Please try it and report if it solves your problem, if possible use a
kernel with no wifi bugs.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NWA

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Re: PISI 0.4 released

[Edder]

Hi,

I installed the latest version (0.4.4)  and have a couple of questions:

1) Are there any plans to support google tasks? It is a "widget"
within gmail and would be nice if that one could be synced to for
example tasks or e-tasks.

2) Long contact names. I have quite a few contacts with long names and
at the moment syncing (with google contacts) causes problems, because
it doesn't recognise that my phone contact "Bla der BladiBla*" ==
googlecontact "Bla der BladiBladder". Ofcourse this shouldn't be a
problem anymore when opimd is the default, so I'd understand if this
is low priority.

3) Are you planning to solve the problem with e-calendar-factory
needing a restart? The existence of this background process suggests
(to me) that "proper" updates to the calendar should go through that
process. Do you know if that is true? And would that solve the restart
issue?

Cheers, Edwin

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Michael Pilgermann wrote:
> We just released PISI 0.4.
>
> The major enhancement this time is opimd support for contacts.
>
> Supported Contacts data sources:
> - SIM via DBUS (e.g. SHR)
> - QTopia address book (e.g. OM 2008.12)
> - LDAP (read only)
> - VCF files (local / webdav)
> - Google contacts
> - OPIMD
>
> Supported Calendar data sources:
> - Google calendars
> - ICalendar files (local / webdav)
>
> Get your copy here:
> http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (7 Votes so far)

[HighCat]

Marcel-2 wrote:
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 13:25 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
>> rakshat hooja schrieb:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
>> > > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
>> > > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
>> > >
>> > > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
>> > > 2 Votes so far.
>> > +1
>> > 3 Votes
>> >
>> >
>> > +1
>> > 4 votes.
>> +1
>> 5 votes
> 
> 6 votes, Thomas Franck voted in the forked thread.
> 

So, with mine it's 7
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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Christian Reitwießner]

Dear Robin,

yes, I know this website. The problem with "mediawiki_sa" is that it
needs PHP and as I see it, it is just the regular Mediawiki software
where some parts are removed. Furthermore, it is based on Mediawiki 1.7
and I don't know if it can render current Mediawiki Markup. So one
should get a better result by just using the current Mediawiki software
and exchanging the database backend.

But what I (and as I heard also Wikimedia) really want is a clean
implementation of a standalone Mediawiki markup renderer that behaves
just as the official renderer. That would be really great.

Kind Regards,
Christian

Robin Paulson schrieb:
> 2009/8/12 Christian Reitwießner :
>> Sure, I have thought about that. But then the pages need to be rendered
>> on the Freerunner. It would be great if we could have some small
>> standalone Mediawiki renderer. I have had a look at mwlib [1], but it
> 
> have you tried the wikipedia offline client? the link i sent earlier
> uses exactly that - it's small, lightweight and will run on
> low-powered devices
> 
> http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/buildWikipediaOffline.html
> 
> see the note from sept 17, 2007


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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (6 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

[HighCat]

On Wednesday 12 August 2009 15:20:12 Marcel wrote:
> I'd say thats somehow related to lib versions SHR uses rather than neon
> itself. On OM2009t5 I opened 1600x1200 images and neon didn't complain
> once.

Test image is in bugzilla:
https://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/download.php/239/994/234/31/img_4506_1.jpg

Looks like people can't reproduce this. I'll test more a bit later.

> One could add to the tested distros section that SHR has problems with
> large images.

Ok, +1 too 
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (6 Votes so far)

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 13:25 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
> rakshat hooja schrieb:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> > > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> > >
> > > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> > > 2 Votes so far.
> > +1
> > 3 Votes
> >
> >
> > +1
> > 4 votes.
> +1
> 5 votes

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (5 Votes)

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 13:21 +0200 schrieb Thomas Franck:
> HighCat wrote:
> > I'd vote for Neon too, but looks like it's not enough stable (large images
> > on SHR, py2.6)
> > 
> > The bug:
> > http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=255&group_id=239&atid=994
> 
> Hmm.. I can open my 2048x1536 (~700k) pics just fine.. (SHR, neon 1.0.0-r0)
> 
> I vote +1, too.. :)

Just to keep track: Now we're at 5 votes.


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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 16:45 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz
>  wrote:
> Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> >
> > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> > 2 Votes so far.
> 
> +1
> 3 Votes
> 
> +1
> 4 votes.
> 
> For future applications can we just open voting on the discussion page
> of the hall of fame wiki page? Or is mailing list better for people?

I guess the mailinglist has by far more readers than any discussion
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (5 Votes so far)

[Bernd Prünster]

rakshat hooja schrieb:
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz 
>  wrote:
>
> Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> >
> > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> > 2 Votes so far.
> +1
> 3 Votes
>
>
> +1
> 4 votes.
+1
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

[Adolph J. Vogel]

> For future applications can we just open voting on the discussion page of
> the hall of fame wiki page? Or is mailing list better for people?

I personally find the mailling list more convenient.

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

[Thomas Franck]

HighCat wrote:
> I'd vote for Neon too, but looks like it's not enough stable (large images
> on SHR, py2.6)
> 
> The bug:
> http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=255&group_id=239&atid=994

Hmm.. I can open my 2048x1536 (~700k) pics just fine.. (SHR, neon 1.0.0-r0)

I vote +1, too.. :)

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 05:55 -0500 schrieb HighCat:
> 
> 
> Marcel-2 wrote:
> > 
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> >> I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> > 
> > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> > 2 Votes so far.
> > 
> 
> I'd vote for Neon too, but looks like it's not enough stable (large images
> on SHR, py2.6)
> 
> The bug:
> http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=255&group_id=239&atid=994

I'd say thats somehow related to lib versions SHR uses rather than neon
itself. On OM2009t5 I opened 1600x1200 images and neon didn't complain
once.
One could add to the tested distros section that SHR has problems with
large images. (What is "large" exactly? Could you do some tests?)

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

[rakshat hooja]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote:

> Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> >
> > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> > 2 Votes so far.
> +1
> 3 Votes
>

+1
4 votes.

For future applications can we just open voting on the discussion page of
the hall of fame wiki page? Or is mailing list better for people?

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[rakshat hooja]

Patryk Benderz wrote:

>
>
> 2.There already is "homepage" tag which should lead to contact
> information also. If author doesn't provide contact info on projects
> homepage, it might mean he/she doesn't want to reveal this info. We
> should respect his/her decision.


I am only thinking of putting the contact information of those authors who
have their contact info given on their home page. The reason being many
users will not go to home page and contact authors about bugs, feature
requests, patches but if they see the contact info easily they will contact
them. This will lead to more contact between users and authors.

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

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"Adolph J. Vogel"  writes:
>> i don't think i've ever got wifi to work
>
> I feel your pain :(

Try to do what's written on FSO_Resources wiki page and report the
results. The wlan chip _is_ compatible with most APs and the proposed
method of using it _does_ in fact work.

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Paul Fertser]

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  writes:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:56:26PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
>> Bernhard Reiter  writes:
>> > CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
>> > Trying to associate with  (SSID='' freq=2437 MHz)
>> > Associated with 
>> > WPA: Key negotiation completed with  [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP]
>> > CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to  completed (auth)
>> > [id=0 id_str=]
>> >
>> > But unfortunately, I still can't ping my router, nor can I ping the
>> > FreeRunner from my laptop either.
>> 
>> You're supposed to somehow set IP for eth0 after that (usually with
>> the help of DHCP client). I really wonder why it's not obvious :S
>
> You're also supposed to have an SSID setup before using a DHCP client.
>
> At least for me that NEVER happens :|

wpa_supplicant does that for you. I'm yet to see a single case when it
couldn't.

>> Also some APs require "wmiconfig -ieth0 --power=maxperf" trick to
>> work.
>
> I always run that.

Eats battery like mad. I suggest using this only as a last resort.

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Patryk Benderz]

> I tried to integrate an Author= Tag, but the box doesn't seem to support
> that. Could someone add such a feature? I don't know how to edit the box
> template. The data is already in the page, just need to support an
> Author=.
This can be done rather easyly but three cases arise:

1.All old calls to ApplicationBox should be updated

2.There already is "homepage" tag which should lead to contact
information also. If author doesn't provide contact info on projects
homepage, it might mean he/she doesn't want to reveal this info. We
should respect his/her decision.

3.We should formally ask ApplicationBox template author for his/her
opinion about modifying this template.

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

[HighCat]

Marcel-2 wrote:
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
>> I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> 
> According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> 2 Votes so far.
> 

I'd vote for Neon too, but looks like it's not enough stable (large images
on SHR, py2.6)

The bug:
http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=255&group_id=239&atid=994
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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

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> i don't think i've ever got wifi to work

I feel your pain :(





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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

[Patryk Benderz]

Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> 
> According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> 2 Votes so far.
+1
3 Votes

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:39:18AM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:56:26PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
> > Bernhard Reiter  writes:
> > > Am Dienstag, den 11.08.2009, 10:41 +0400 schrieb Paul Fertser:
> > >> Please try wpa_supplicant method as described on FSO_Resources
> > >> wikipage and report the results.
> > >
> > > ok, using fsoraw it seems to connect to the router (only the important
> > > part given here):
> > >
> > > CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
> > > Trying to associate with  (SSID='' freq=2437 MHz)
> > > Associated with 
> > > WPA: Key negotiation completed with  [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP]
> > > CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to  completed (auth)
> > > [id=0 id_str=]
> > >
> > > But unfortunately, I still can't ping my router, nor can I ping the
> > > FreeRunner from my laptop either.
> > 
> > You're supposed to somehow set IP for eth0 after that (usually with
> > the help of DHCP client). I really wonder why it's not obvious :S
> 
> You're also supposed to have an SSID setup before using a DHCP client.
> 
> At least for me that NEVER happens :|

And before someone blames the wifi driver, mofi has no problem connecting
(but mokonnect is what I wish).

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:56:26PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
> Bernhard Reiter  writes:
> > Am Dienstag, den 11.08.2009, 10:41 +0400 schrieb Paul Fertser:
> >> Please try wpa_supplicant method as described on FSO_Resources
> >> wikipage and report the results.
> >
> > ok, using fsoraw it seems to connect to the router (only the important
> > part given here):
> >
> > CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
> > Trying to associate with  (SSID='' freq=2437 MHz)
> > Associated with 
> > WPA: Key negotiation completed with  [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP]
> > CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to  completed (auth)
> > [id=0 id_str=]
> >
> > But unfortunately, I still can't ping my router, nor can I ping the
> > FreeRunner from my laptop either.
> 
> You're supposed to somehow set IP for eth0 after that (usually with
> the help of DHCP client). I really wonder why it's not obvious :S

You're also supposed to have an SSID setup before using a DHCP client.

At least for me that NEVER happens :|

> Also some APs require "wmiconfig -ieth0 --power=maxperf" trick to
> work.

I always run that.

Rui

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Re: Freerunner audio channels

[Rask Ingemann Lambertsen]

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:53:29PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:

> How many cans are there inside a freerunner? I'll have to study the
> schematics and really have to open this thing.

   From memory: GPS can, GSM can and "main" can.

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Adolph J. Vogel]

> Okay, I switched the list to application boxes.

I like... :)

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 12:07 +0200 schrieb Niall Haslam:
> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 11:56, Marcel wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 11:49 +0200 schrieb Fabian Schölzel:
> > > 2009/8/12 Marcel :
> > > > As I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> > > > quality software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a
> > > > reason to fix some bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
> 
> I'd really like the voting mechanism on opkg  more developed rather than a 
> much more "static" wiki. With a voting scheme you can tell much more about 
> the package. You could have the top ten all time apps, top music app and so 
> on. This would be more useful than a wiki page. Though it would be nice to 
> see more discussion of why particular apps work and why other don't. Having a 
> wiki page to summarise the traits of the successful apps would be a useful 
> resource.

Not a bad idea, but we don't have access to opkg.org to do such things
and it's author disappeared somehow, as far as I know.


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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 15:19 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Marcel  wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> I just created an initial version of the Hall of Fame page
> (are these
> caps correct?).
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hall_of_Fame
> 
> I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly
> on the
> page and linking to the app's own page instead seems
> reasonable.
> What do you think about first discussing new apps for that
> list here? As
> I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> quality
> software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a reason to
> fix some
> bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
> 
> 
> 
> If public can we also have the author contact info directly on this
> page? I am hoping there will be some forum of contact between repo
> maintainers and application authors and packagers so that the latest
> versions are always in the repositories.

I tried to integrate an Author= Tag, but the box doesn't seem to support
that. Could someone add such a feature? I don't know how to edit the box
template. The data is already in the page, just need to support an
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[Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).

According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
2 Votes so far.


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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Niall Haslam]

On Wednesday 12 August 2009 11:56, Marcel wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 11:49 +0200 schrieb Fabian Schölzel:
> > 2009/8/12 Marcel :
> > > As I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> > > quality software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a
> > > reason to fix some bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)

I'd really like the voting mechanism on opkg  more developed rather than a 
much more "static" wiki. With a voting scheme you can tell much more about 
the package. You could have the top ten all time apps, top music app and so 
on. This would be more useful than a wiki page. Though it would be nice to 
see more discussion of why particular apps work and why other don't. Having a 
wiki page to summarise the traits of the successful apps would be a useful 
resource.

My 2cents.

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Adolph J. Vogel:
> > I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly on the
> > page and linking to the app's own page instead seems reasonable.
> 
> I would suggest that we use the community update layout here. I would like to 
> see a screenshot, (showing off the app) and what distros it works on.
> 
> regards, Adolph

Okay, I switched the list to application boxes. Only need some recent
screenshots, I have the fast black-and-green theme installed, could
someone take a shot of the app's most recent version and add it?

Additionally, I only run Om2009t5, so I can only guess which other
platforms they run on. Most do on SHR...

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Re: enlightenment still crashing

[Al Johnson]

On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> 2009/8/11 Al Johnson 
>
> > On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> > > Enlightenment is still crashing. Very easy to reproduce. Set the
> > > keyboard to none, run any application full screen. Is there a chance
> > > anyone will
> >
> > fix
> >
> > > it? I'm suffering for over 2 months from this already (when I forget
> > > not
> >
> > to
> >
> > > touch the fullscreen button). All distros.
> >
> > Do you have a link to the bug report?
>
> No, it's been discussed a few times on this list.

Then please file a bug report. The devs can't keep track of everything 
mentioned on the list, but can easily get a list of outstanding bugs on the 
tracker.


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Re: Is there any VoIP/Skype software on SHR?

[Michele Brocco]

I used to have linphone in OM2008 and it worked quite well.  On SHR-U
linphone and linphone-3 (better gui) also work. I guess u can find the
package urls in the mailing list. However, I have still troubles in
SHR with the alsa state files. voip-handset statefile does not work
correctly in linphone. I heard this is not the case for OM2009.
Haven't found a solution so far


On 8/12/09, Yogiz  wrote:
> Haven't tried it myself but I heard that linphone worked quite well.
>  Try and see if it's in the repo.
>
>
>  On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:13:35 +0800
>  "Daniel.Li"  wrote:
>
>  > On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 18:04 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
>  > > Well, I can tell you that there is no Skype software for FR. Skype
>  > > is closed source, and the protocol is closed as well, so no-one can
>  > > compile it for ARM processors and no-one can make a 3rd party
>  > > client.
>  > >
>  > > Aside from that, you can use whatever VOIP software you want, but
>  > > you'll probably have to build it for FR yourself.
>  >
>  > Is there VoIP software avaliable for SHR, which doesn't need any
>  > compile/install actions, simply opkg install ?
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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Adolph J. Vogel]

> I think this may end up in a list, where not every entry may meet
> every ones personal definition of "stable and usable". It also may
> lead to some nice flame wars, as it has to be discussed, if a software
> is "good". Hm...

Maybe software should only go on the wall if vouched for by say 10 users on 
the list. This way its not subjective, if you get 10 votes your on the wall.


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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[KaZeR]

I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
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Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!

[KaZeR]

I had the same issue here, i had to reflash :(
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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Marcel]

Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 11:49 +0200 schrieb Fabian Schölzel:
> 2009/8/12 Marcel :
> >
> > As I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> > quality software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a
> > reason to fix some bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
> >
> 
> I think this may end up in a list, where not every entry may meet
> every ones personal definition of "stable and usable". It also may
> lead to some nice flame wars, as it has to be discussed, if a software
> is "good". Hm...

Of course "stable and usable" is part of one's personal use case etc,
that's correct. But imho there are quite some apps where we all agree
that they're truly "good"... The ones which need discussion maybe just
need a bug fix or two. :)


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Re: Freerunner audio channels

[Al Johnson]

On Tuesday 11 August 2009, David Fokkema wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 20:06 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
> > David Fokkema  writes:
> > > On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 15:05 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
> > >> Unfortunately, there's no way to find out which devices are affected
> > >> by this bug judging only by revision and serial number as BOMs were
> > >> lost due to an incorrect file format conversion, one needs to actually
> > >> try and see for himself.
> > >
> > > If I open up my phone (have to do it someday, right?) how can I
> > > distinguish a 0R from a 1uF?
> >
> > Unlikely since those caps are under a can and dismounting it requires
> > extra effort and you can damage something doing it.
>
> How many cans are there inside a freerunner? I'll have to study the
> schematics and really have to open this thing.

Three, but only the two larger ones have potential hardware fixes under them 
IIRC. The can for the audio fixes has the bluetooth flexi glued to it, so it 
needs very careful treatment.

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Fabian Schölzel]

2009/8/12 Marcel :
>
> As I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> quality software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a
> reason to fix some bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
>

I think this may end up in a list, where not every entry may meet
every ones personal definition of "stable and usable". It also may
lead to some nice flame wars, as it has to be discussed, if a software
is "good". Hm...

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[rakshat hooja]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Marcel  wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I just created an initial version of the Hall of Fame page (are these
> caps correct?).
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hall_of_Fame
>
> I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly on the
> page and linking to the app's own page instead seems reasonable.
> What do you think about first discussing new apps for that list here? As
> I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high quality
> software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a reason to fix some
> bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
>
>

If public can we also have the author contact info directly on this page? I
am hoping there will be some forum of contact between repo maintainers and
application authors and packagers so that the latest versions are always in
the repositories.

Rakshat

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Adolph J. Vogel]

> I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly on the
> page and linking to the app's own page instead seems reasonable.

I would suggest that we use the community update layout here. I would like to 
see a screenshot, (showing off the app) and what distros it works on.

regards, Adolph





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Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!

[Vikas Saurabh]

> Do what I did - re-install on the second partition and copy /home/root
> over to it...

I did exactly that and had a working version by flashing the image
from Aug8. But then I wanted my old apps as well so I went ahead with
opkg update (instinctively) followed by opkg upgrade. That ruined it
:( yet again.

BTW, libfsoframework and ousaged are not git367 one
$ opkg list_installed | grep -e libfsoframework0 -e fsousaged
fsousaged - 0.0.0.0+gitr367+3c3e1b862cdde806cef8f502dfe79f1d48f1c5d7-r5.0 -
libfsoframework0 -
0.1.0.0+gitr367+3c3e1b862cdde806cef8f502dfe79f1d48f1c5d7-r5.1 -

In fact IIRC, I didn't these two installing during upgrade anyways (I
can't be sure though). Was this expected...Am I not supposed to
upgrade even on the latest image???

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Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/12 c_c :
>  No. I've had to install shr-U on another partition on my sd-card and am
> using that. Waiting for the right version of the package to hit the
> repository for now

so, you installed an earlier version, which didn't have this bug? is
that correct?

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[Wiki] Hall of Fame created

[Marcel]

Good morning,

I just created an initial version of the Hall of Fame page (are these
caps correct?).
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hall_of_Fame

I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly on the
page and linking to the app's own page instead seems reasonable.
What do you think about first discussing new apps for that list here? As
I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high quality
software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a reason to fix some
bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)

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Re: [ANN] Freerunner GTA02A7 on regular sales

[rakshat hooja]

All the best to Golden Delicious with the A7 sales.

Just wanted to add that IDA Systems  (www.idasystems.net) also has some A7
Freerunners (in stock) available for sale in the Asia, Australia and .
Prices at Euro 299 inclusive of shipping by DHL.

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/12 Christian Reitwießner :
> Sure, I have thought about that. But then the pages need to be rendered
> on the Freerunner. It would be great if we could have some small
> standalone Mediawiki renderer. I have had a look at mwlib [1], but it

have you tried the wikipedia offline client? the link i sent earlier
uses exactly that - it's small, lightweight and will run on
low-powered devices

http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/buildWikipediaOffline.html

see the note from sept 17, 2007

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/12 Vincent MEURISSE :
> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
>> So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
>> significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
>> those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
>> really long
> Why not use dump DB from  ?
> The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add an
> index to have the file usable.

there's also this, which takes an xml dump as produced by wikipedia
every two months or so, processes it in a few hours to produce an
index, and will run anywhere that has php, perl and a couple of other
generic utilities

http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/buildWikipediaOffline.html

i had it on my laptop a while back, it was very usable. no images though

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Christian Reitwießner]

Vincent MEURISSE schrieb:
> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
>> So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
>> significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
>> those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
>> really long
> Why not use dump DB from  ?
> The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add 
> an 
> index to have the file usable.

Sure, I have thought about that. But then the pages need to be rendered
on the Freerunner. It would be great if we could have some small
standalone Mediawiki renderer. I have had a look at mwlib [1], but it
needs some additional libraries and it's not really clear which parts of
mwlib are needed. If someone could compile mwlib for the Freerunner I
would be really happy.

[1] http://code.pediapress.com/wiki/wiki/mwlib

Kind regards,
Christian

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Evgeniy Ginzburg]

On 12.08.2009 12:47, Vincent MEURISSE wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
>> So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
>> significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
>> those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
>> really long
> Why not use dump DB from  ?
> The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add an
> index to have the file usable.
http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/2008-06/
looks more suitable
it also 14 G in size tar.7z compressed.
Image removal might help reduce it a lot.

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

[Michael Tansella]

Am Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 10:46:03 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:
> I got mail from ad...@projects.openmoko.org when I registered my project:

Thanks ;-)

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[ANN] Freerunner GTA02A7 on regular sales

[Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller]

Hi all,
we are happy to announce that we and our partner TRISOFT now have the  
GTA02A7 models on regular sale and can ship from stock.

What are the differences to the A6 models?

* PCB revision A7
* buzz-rework not required (to remove interference from GSM  
transmitter into microphone signal)
* no capacitor on SD slot required (to remove interference from SD  
card clock to GPS receiver)
* better recovers from completely empty or no battery

You can easily distinguish the A7 from GTA02A5/A6 devices by the DATE  
CODE printed on the label inside the battery compartment or on the  
black box.

Code 2008  -> A5 or A6
Code 2009 -> A7

Although it does not solve all problems that have been reported (which  
mobile phone is 100% free of flaws?), the A7 is the best Freerunner we  
ever had!

For those new to this list: the good thing is that it is
* completely open mobile handheld platform
* well documented
* has all necessary certifications (FCC, R&TTE, CE, WEEE, ...)
* is available from stock
* software is becoming more and more stable (FSO, SHR etc.)
* a platform with a future (GTA02-core)

Nikolaus

Product link: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner



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Re: Qi installed properly?

[Paul Fertser]

openm...@humilis.net writes:
> Niels Heyvaert wrote (ao):
>> > Is the Freerunner vibrating, before it boots from nand? This is the
>> > case if a kernel is unbootable or skipped.
>> 
>> Yes it does vibrate once before actually booting from NAND. I always
>> assumed this was a part of the hardware "system check" at power up.
>
> You might want to read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi

The best advice so far! :D Thanks :)

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Paul Fertser]

Adam Jimerson  writes:
> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:41:53 am Paul Fertser wrote:
>> Please try wpa_supplicant method as described on FSO_Resources
>> wikipage and report the results.
>
> I know wpa_supplicant stopped working for me, I don't know what went wrong 
> but when I started using mokonnect/connman it worked with no hassles with the 
> .29 kernel with out the test patches installed.

AFAIK either you're not using any WPA networks or you use
wpa_supplicant, connman can't affect that.

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Paul Fertser]

Bernhard Reiter  writes:
> Am Dienstag, den 11.08.2009, 10:41 +0400 schrieb Paul Fertser:
>> Please try wpa_supplicant method as described on FSO_Resources
>> wikipage and report the results.
>
> ok, using fsoraw it seems to connect to the router (only the important
> part given here):
>
> CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
> Trying to associate with  (SSID='' freq=2437 MHz)
> Associated with 
> WPA: Key negotiation completed with  [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP]
> CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to  completed (auth)
> [id=0 id_str=]
>
> But unfortunately, I still can't ping my router, nor can I ping the
> FreeRunner from my laptop either.

You're supposed to somehow set IP for eth0 after that (usually with
the help of DHCP client). I really wonder why it's not obvious :S

Also some APs require "wmiconfig -ieth0 --power=maxperf" trick to
work.

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

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Am 12.08.2009 um 10:46 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:

> I got mail from ad...@projects.openmoko.org when I registered my  
> project:
>
> --
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> and you are the list administrator.
>
> This list is: xlogical-comm...@lists.projects.openmoko.org .
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ARRG!
thx

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Paul Fertser]

Yogiz  writes:
> I hope it is. I'd really want to finally see the wifi driver supporting
> Master mode (Access point). As far as I understand, it's fully possible
> to implement it.

You might have as well looked at the commit log and loose all the
hope. If you're talking about ar6000 driver then there're no chances
it will support master (or monitor) mode ever. I don't see why you
think it might be possible.

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Vincent MEURISSE]

On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
> So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
> significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
> those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
> really long
Why not use dump DB from  ?
The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add an 
index to have the file usable.
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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

[Aapo Rantalainen]

I got mail from ad...@projects.openmoko.org when I registered my project:

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Re: is wifi-driver developed anymore?

[Yogiz]

I hope it is. I'd really want to finally see the wifi driver supporting
Master mode (Access point). As far as I understand, it's fully possible
to implement it.

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:42:57 +0200
Vinzenz Hersche  wrote:

> hello list,
> 
> i just want to ask if we could hope for a good working wifi-driver...
> i use it many times and sometimes it does work, sometimes not. i
> think, if this would working, it's a great step forward, because
> there are applications to connect, browser, sync-tools, etc, but this
> isn't very flexible, if we have to connect over usb i think.
> 
> i read in a post, it works great in the openwrt-distro. is it
> possible to merge it?
> 
> if someone gave me a instruction, i would try it self, but i never
> developed somethi
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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

[Yogiz]

Sorry but where do I get the admin password? It's not the same as my
login password in projects.openmoko.org.

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:25:30 +0300
Aapo Rantalainen  wrote:

> I think I found rigth way. When you get moderator request waiting
> mail: mailing list has 1
> request(s) waiting for your consideration at:
> 
>http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/...
> 
> 
> Click link and give password. Then click first link on the page, it
> has same name than mailinglist. Then Privacy options->Sender filters.
> There are option "Action to take when a moderated member posts to the
> list."   Change mark from Hold to Discard.
> And then submit.
> 
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Re: Is there any VoIP/Skype software on SHR?

[Yogiz]

Haven't tried it myself but I heard that linphone worked quite well.
Try and see if it's in the repo.

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:13:35 +0800
"Daniel.Li"  wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 18:04 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> > Well, I can tell you that there is no Skype software for FR. Skype
> > is closed source, and the protocol is closed as well, so no-one can
> > compile it for ARM processors and no-one can make a 3rd party
> > client.
> > 
> > Aside from that, you can use whatever VOIP software you want, but
> > you'll probably have to build it for FR yourself.
> 
> Is there VoIP software avaliable for SHR, which doesn't need any
> compile/install actions, simply opkg install ?

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Christian Reitwießner]

c_c schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Christian Reitwießner wrote:
>> unfortunately without any feedback, I have now released evopedia 0.2.1,
>> which fixes a single bug: the "near articles" feature should work now,
>> if it did not already. 
>>
>  Well, I saw your site and realised that the English dump is 7 GB. I have a
> 8 GB card - but this would leave me with almost no space for anything else.
> I wonder if there was a way of reducing the image sizes further by splitting
> them into topics (maybe science / computers / physics etc).
>  
>  Otherwise I'll just have to buy another 8GB card - but the card swapping is
> a little cumbersome. What do you think?

Please note that unfortunately, the English dump is for Evopedia 1.0
only. It is not much more than a squashfs-compressed version of
http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/2008-06/en/wikipedia-en-html.tar.7z
(which is 14 GB and 7-zip compressed), where the special pages are
removed. There is some redundancy in the html files (for example there
is always the same header) but I thought that squashfs takes care of it.

So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
really long. At the moment I'm more trying to reduce the dump time and
not the image size. I have not tried to do a dump of the English
Wikipedia at all because it would take weeks.

If you look at the dump sizes for the German Wikipedia, the sizes are
1.8 GB (2008, Squashfs 3), 1.9 (2008, Squashfs 4), 2.5 (2009, Squashfs
4). I really don't know what caused this.

I can try to do the dump for the "simple English" Wikipedia next.

Kind regards,
Christan

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Re: how to block spam to commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org?

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Am 12.08.2009 um 09:25 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:

> I think I found rigth way. When you get moderator request waiting  
> mail:
> mailing list has 1
> request(s) waiting for your consideration at:
>
>http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/admindb/...
>
>
> Click link and give password. Then click first link on the page, it
> has same name than mailinglist. Then Privacy options->Sender filters.
> There are option "Action to take when a moderated member posts to the
> list."   Change mark from Hold to Discard.
> And then submit.
>
> -Aapo Rantalainen


maybe dumb question .. but which password did you enter?
none of my passwords at projects.om match ..

cheers,
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