Re: QtMoko is great! :-)

2009-08-29 Thread -= Apertum =-

* Stefan Fröbe wrote, Il 29/08/2009 23:45:
> Hi Andrea,
> I also tried it out yesterday and loved the speed - I could not start 
> any X apps, however. How did you manage to run tangogps???
> Stefan
You have to click on the QX icon on the App section (it's a black icon 
with an X). Then you can launch TangoGPS with a GUI. You can always exit 
or pause TangoGPS with a quick AUX button pression. I think i'll try to 
add some instruction and photos on the QtMoko Wiki ( 
http://www.qtmoko.org ).

Very cool, and it works well!

I like the fact that under Qt, with this method, we can launch any X 
program, absolutely smart.

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Re: Litemoko, new window environment

2009-08-29 Thread Ali
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 23:07 +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Out of curiosity, did anyone try it? I've used it for the past 2
> weeks, and it works flawlessly. Fast, simple, and the apps run
> fullscreen. Just what I needed, but maybe I'm in minority :-)
I installed the package, made a .Xsession file in ~/ but could not get
icewm to launch. This is on shr unstable 0808 full glibc ipk (the one
recommended at #openmoko). I'de love to give it a try but haven't had
too much time to figure out whats wrong. Clearly it worked for you, are
you launching ice with .xsession? Or firing it up manually? 


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Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft & design

2009-08-29 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
something.openmoko.org  makes sense to me, if it's not about openmoko inc

om-community works as a second option - I'd like to see the foundation
thing up&running behind this..


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Re: Litemoko, new window environment

2009-08-29 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Out of curiosity, did anyone try it? I've used it for the past 2 weeks, and
> it works flawlessly. Fast, simple, and the apps run fullscreen. Just what I
> needed, but maybe I'm in minority :-)

Screenshots usually help.


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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

2009-08-29 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:06:24PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
> > This post in that same thread mentions that leaving an LED on would
> > halve the battery life while suspended:
> 
> what it says is, _blinking_ would halve it, since blinking would mean  
> resume/suspend/resume/suspend ...

   No, leaving it permanently lit would approximately halve battery life.
Suspend current is around 8 mA, AUX LED current is around 6 mA (GTA02
revision 6)[1]. Blinking an LED with repeated resume/suspend cycles would have
a much worse effect on battery life because of all the work the CPU has to
do.

[1] # echo >/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/usb_curlim 0 \
&& sleep 60 && cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now && \
echo >/sys/class/leds/gta02-aux\:red/brightness 1 && sleep 60 && \
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now ; \
echo >/sys/class/leds/gta02-aux\:red/brightness 0 ; \
echo >/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/usb_curlim 500
46500
52875

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Re: Litemoko, new window environment

2009-08-29 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Out of curiosity, did anyone try it? I've used it for the past 2 weeks, and
it works flawlessly. Fast, simple, and the apps run fullscreen. Just what I
needed, but maybe I'm in minority :-)


2009/8/14 Christian Rüb 

> > On Freitag, 14. August 2009 08:57:45 rakshat hooja wrote:
> > > > There isn't much source code to see :-), the launcher is 100 lines,
> > > > litephone and literki are already available (although I'll try to put
> > > > literki on a repo). I had to do some hacks in icewm, I'll release the
> > > > patch (that one I have too :-))
> > > >
> > > > Michal
> > >
> > > And put litephone and literki in the SHR and OM2009 repos too.
> > >
> > > Rakshat
> >
> > There is currently some litephone development happening by cmusik here
> [1], I
> > do not know if/when the git is also placed on sourceforge, maybe the devs
> can
> > shed some light here. You can get ipk here [2] (I use it on my SHR-U).
> >
> > I can upload the bitbake recipe I use tonight if anyone is interested.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >  Christian
> >
> > [1] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=litephone;a=summary
> > [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable
>
> recipe added:
>
>
> http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=tree;f=litephone;h=ea660faeb4887d0efdb9715453014cad4828d98c;hb=HEAD
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Re: Freerunner & wireless internet

2009-08-29 Thread Michele Brocco
On 8/29/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> which kernel? you need the perfect blend :)
> e.g. i use a 2.6.28-rc4 with nwa. no a single freeze!
>
> On 8/28/09, Michele Brocco  wrote:
>> On 8/26/09, Nicola Mfb  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Michele Brocco
>>> wrote:
>>> [...]
 For me in SHR-U with mofi wifi reconnects after resume (just with the
 same essid however). It just doesnt re-request a dhcp lease, have to
 call udhcpc manually then. Does the dhcp-lease re-request after
 re-connection to the AP work for u guys?
>>>
>>> Try NWA, it listens for a wpa_supplicant dbus signal occourring when
>>> the network status changes, in the case of disconnection/reassociation
>>> it respawns the dhcp client. That's typical in a suspend/resume cycle.
>>>
>> Unfortunately NWA does not find any network here. And when i start it
>> sequentially more than one time all my phone freezes.
>> Any clues?
>> Btw. I like the qtgui!
>>
I am running 2.6.29-rc3 from the SHR-U repositories. So that might be
the reason. Maybe i will have a try if I find the kernel image and
modules somewhere to download.

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Re: Om2009

2009-08-29 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Freitag, den 28.08.2009, 21:09 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak:
> Oh guys... I'm SHR developer (once I tried Om2009), but... regarding
> stablity, SHR and FSO is mainly the same! We both use FSO and we both
> are affected by FSO bugs. And most of bugs regarding phone
> functionality came from FSO on both distros (ok, in early stage SHR
> ophonekitd wasn't perfect, but now it should be rock solid). That's
> just matter of used versions. Saying "om2009 is unstable cause i can't
> answer call" means that this bug probably is (was or even will be)
> also in SHR, and vice versa.
> 
> Om2009 was much stabler than SHR-unstable. That's why I liked SHR more
> ;) Now shr-unstable has bugfixes to most of om2009 issues. That's why
> shr-unstable is now stabler than om2009.
> 
> And don't get me wrong - i'm SHR developer, and I love SHR, and I
> "fight" with Om2009 (regarding "i with SHR want to be better than guys
> with om2009" ;)), but I really don't like criticizing anything without
> knowing anything about mentioned issues and causes! Paroli is great
> work, I just don't like approach "everything in one big daemon", but
> my opinion doesn't make Paroli worse... I'll just use SHR without
> saying bad words on Paroli.

well, so maybe it's because i was using om2009t5 (not unstable), but it
having being promoted as stable enough for daily use, i was pretty
disappointed to find it was not. and with shr-u (from around 07/31, i
think), things worked pretty good. so maybe i really don't know enough
about internals and organization, but trust me: with om2009t5, i
couldn't pick up about every other incoming call -- or more -- which
made it practically useless. with shr-u, i can pick up calls. that's
about all i wanted to say about om2009 vs. shr.

bernhard

> Well, probably reality isn't as simple as i presented in this post.
> But i'm sure it's at least close to ;) And I hope you'll understand
> what I said. This post can be noisy cause i'm excited with listening
> to really great concert of polish rock group (Perfect) from 1981
> (great time of rock in Poland) which I just got ;)

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Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft & design

2009-08-29 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
why not packages.openmoko.org?? if  I remember well openmoko.org
mainting and thematics is about comunity  so if some openmoko.org is
listening will be hard to create such subdomain pointing to an
external subdomain?
Nevertheless whatever decision taken Tuxbrain will sponsor  the new
domain if needed
alternatively to openmoko.org if is not responsive enough or not
posible(logo sponsor ) I vote for om-comnunity.org

2009/8/29 Fabian Killus :
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:24:53 +0300
> m...@nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 07:13:23AM +0200, Fabian Killus wrote:
>> >On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:18:47 +0300
>> >"Risto H. Kurppa"  wrote:
>>
>> >Actually this is heavily inspired by gentoo-portage.com, which is a
>> >nice (but unofficial) package listing system for Gentoo. I just added
>> >the distributions menu on the left side. BTW do we also need a field
>> >that shows which other distributions provide a certain package (like:
>> >"Other distributions with this Package: SHR, Debian")?
>>
>> Trying to see the relations in apt-portal's db now...
>>
>> Then again, if it's not doable now, we can do it later
>>
>> >I thought if you switch the distribution with the left side menu and
>> >already have selected a package, the equivalent package for the just
>> >selected distribution should be displayed.
>> >If this distro doesn't have such a package show an apropiate message,
>> >maybe telling whom to contact, to get this app into the distribution.
>>
>> Ok, cool. It could be pretty generic, probably.
>>
>> >These colors are taken from the Openmoko identity guidelines [1] and
>> >I agree that they are heavy.
>> >Maybe now designing this showroom and its colors is a good moment to
>> >decide as a community, wether to stick with the official guidelines
>> >or not. I do think consistent colors are good for community spirit. I
>> >don't care if we continue with darkgrey/orange or have something new,
>> >as long as it is documented on the wiki.
>>
>> The wiki would probably have its old colors, and we can always
>> do a "facelift" and change colors, so I say we stick to the current
>> stuff and change colors later if we cared to...
>>
>> >Another issue would be the logo, here I'm not even aware if we are
>> >allowed to use it. I recall a post be Sean Moss-Pultz to release this
>> >stuff to the community, but don't know how or if this ever happend.
>>
>> Let's hope for the best.
>>
>> >One last thing, you've maybe noticed the
>> >packages.openmoko-community.org at top of my mockup. I questioning
>> >which domain should be used for the showroom? I'm _not_ totally
>> >convinced by suggestions like frappdb.org or so.
>>
>> I did :)
>>
>> openmoko-community.org is a bit long, what about om-community.org?
>>
>> Heh, ompkg.org ;P
>>
>> Something?
>>
>> I agree with you that frappdb, tho it sounds almost cool, is very
>> fr-centric and maybe not the best solution.
>>
>
> I like om-community.org and use packages.om-community.org or
> showroom.om-community.org for the showroom. I prefer this over
> something like ompkg.org, because maybe later we also want to have
> something like polls.om-community (just an idea) or so.
>
> jxs
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QtMoko is great! :-)

2009-08-29 Thread -= Apertum =-

  A little ciao here to all ;-)

I started my Neo usage some month ago with Qtopia. Yesterday i've 
installed the V8 of QtMoko: i'd like only to say that i like a lot QtMoko!
Contratulation to all the contributors and maintainers!

IMHO it's really the best distro for everyday phone (of course there 
some problems, but the base it's really strong).

The Qx trick to launch TangoGPS was really a cool idea, congratulation 
to Radek for his incredible work on this (and not only on this).

I started to make some contribution to the QtMoko site htp://www.qtmoko.org

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Re: Launchers (shr-launcher, qalee, ...) and Xdg

2009-08-29 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/29 Nicola Mfb :
> Hi!
> while writing a simple application launcher for my needs I found (and
> begin to lite support) freedesktop Xdg menu specifications [1] so just
> asked to myself if other launchers supports these. It may be a way to
> unify launchers behaviour and user preferences, but it's a new topic
> for me, so I do not know the real status and actual trends.
> What do you think about?
>
> Reading the specs I found "Telephony" and "TelephonyTools", in the
> additional categories, are these suitable for phone apps? should shr
> applications/paroli and so on add one of that in the respective
> .desktop file?
>
> Finally if this is an interesting topic and we come to a "common"
> default menu view of applications, we may think to customize the
> /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu of SHR (and other distros, ore create
> a specific new one) to match our needs. That may be a real starting
> point to have the same applications menu structure even if the user
> decide to install and use different launchers.
>
> Regards
>
>    Nicola
>
> [1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
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Re: [gta02-core] Another statistical milestone reached

2009-08-29 Thread Nelson Castillo
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Jakob wrote:
> On 8/29/09, Jakob  wrote:
>> hey, i'm one of them "silent"ones and i realy appreciate the work you are
>> doing.
>> thanks!

I'm here for the jokes!

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Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft & design

2009-08-29 Thread Fabian Killus
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:24:53 +0300
m...@nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 07:13:23AM +0200, Fabian Killus wrote:
> >On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:18:47 +0300
> >"Risto H. Kurppa"  wrote:
> 
> >Actually this is heavily inspired by gentoo-portage.com, which is a
> >nice (but unofficial) package listing system for Gentoo. I just added
> >the distributions menu on the left side. BTW do we also need a field
> >that shows which other distributions provide a certain package (like:
> >"Other distributions with this Package: SHR, Debian")?
> 
> Trying to see the relations in apt-portal's db now...
> 
> Then again, if it's not doable now, we can do it later
> 
> >I thought if you switch the distribution with the left side menu and
> >already have selected a package, the equivalent package for the just
> >selected distribution should be displayed.
> >If this distro doesn't have such a package show an apropiate message,
> >maybe telling whom to contact, to get this app into the distribution.
> 
> Ok, cool. It could be pretty generic, probably.
> 
> >These colors are taken from the Openmoko identity guidelines [1] and
> >I agree that they are heavy.
> >Maybe now designing this showroom and its colors is a good moment to
> >decide as a community, wether to stick with the official guidelines
> >or not. I do think consistent colors are good for community spirit. I
> >don't care if we continue with darkgrey/orange or have something new,
> >as long as it is documented on the wiki.
> 
> The wiki would probably have its old colors, and we can always
> do a "facelift" and change colors, so I say we stick to the current
> stuff and change colors later if we cared to...
> 
> >Another issue would be the logo, here I'm not even aware if we are
> >allowed to use it. I recall a post be Sean Moss-Pultz to release this
> >stuff to the community, but don't know how or if this ever happend.
> 
> Let's hope for the best.
> 
> >One last thing, you've maybe noticed the
> >packages.openmoko-community.org at top of my mockup. I questioning
> >which domain should be used for the showroom? I'm _not_ totally
> >convinced by suggestions like frappdb.org or so.
> 
> I did :)
> 
> openmoko-community.org is a bit long, what about om-community.org?
> 
> Heh, ompkg.org ;P
> 
> Something?
> 
> I agree with you that frappdb, tho it sounds almost cool, is very
> fr-centric and maybe not the best solution.
> 

I like om-community.org and use packages.om-community.org or
showroom.om-community.org for the showroom. I prefer this over
something like ompkg.org, because maybe later we also want to have
something like polls.om-community (just an idea) or so.

jxs

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Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft & design

2009-08-29 Thread Fabian Killus
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:24:46 +0200
Bernd Prünster  wrote:

> Fabian Killus schrieb:
> > I did a quick mockup of how I would like to have such a showroom
> > look like. The "traditional" openmoko colors were used.
> >
> > Please comment if you like it or not (I know it's not perfect, just
> > an idea). Here comes the png:
> >
> > http://ji-xiansheng.de/tmp/om_packages_mockup.png
> >
> > jxs
> Please dont make the same mistake that was made relaunching opkg.org: 
> dont use such huge graphics.
> keep in mind that the showroom should maybe also easily viewable @
> 480x640.
> 
> just my 2 cents
> 

I totally agree.

jxs

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Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft & design

2009-08-29 Thread Fabian Killus
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:05:36 +0200
David Reyes Samblas Martinez  wrote:

> 
> >
> > Please comment if you like it or not (I know it's not perfect, just
> > an idea). Here comes the png:
> >
> > http://ji-xiansheng.de/tmp/om_packages_mockup.png
> >
> > jxs
> 
> My comments on the mokup some of them will be related to  the coding
> effort to reach some of your proposal and what I think it should be
> the fisrt relase, as Markus said what we can't reach now we will reach
> later:
> -Hierarchical clasification:well righ now there is only a flat
> classification on apt-portal (as it was on opkg.org) so first release
> will have only one level.
> -Multiple distros: idem as previous one, but this will be a priority
> for futures impovements
> -Too big fonts?? If the description become larger and there are much
> comments  too much scroll
> -As other said, too strong colors, I prefer a dominant white with
> details with the official colors ,
> -again said by others the OM logo is too big, wasting a lot of
> horizontal/vertical space
> -Having distros on a column always on left side seem to me again a lot
> of space wasting, having a roll over menu, and line some where in the
> app description telling "also in this other distros:" ,and a "not
> in your favourite distro?" link with the instructions you mentioned
> will safe a lot of useful space.
> 
> above are opinions now what I really think :Good work Fabian! :),
> thanks a lot for the mokup
> -

The fonts and the logo are far too big, I know. I want to create
another mockup, but it will take some time, since I'm moving at the
moment.
About the distributions menu on the left side I have to disagree. I
don't think it should be replaced with a roll over menu. I would agree
on having the side menu + roll over menu. Space below the side menu
could be used for a sponsor logo for Tuxbrain if the showroom will be
placed on your server.

jxs 

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Launchers (shr-launcher, qalee, ...) and Xdg

2009-08-29 Thread Nicola Mfb
Hi!
while writing a simple application launcher for my needs I found (and
begin to lite support) freedesktop Xdg menu specifications [1] so just
asked to myself if other launchers supports these. It may be a way to
unify launchers behaviour and user preferences, but it's a new topic
for me, so I do not know the real status and actual trends.
What do you think about?

Reading the specs I found "Telephony" and "TelephonyTools", in the
additional categories, are these suitable for phone apps? should shr
applications/paroli and so on add one of that in the respective
.desktop file?

Finally if this is an interesting topic and we come to a "common"
default menu view of applications, we may think to customize the
/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu of SHR (and other distros, ore create
a specific new one) to match our needs. That may be a real starting
point to have the same applications menu structure even if the user
decide to install and use different launchers.

Regards

Nicola

[1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/

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Re: Nokia N900

2009-08-29 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Sebastian
Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> On 8/29/09, Nicola Mfb  wrote:
[...]
> It's already known that N900 is UMTS phone, not only internet tablet.

Yes I know ;) but the last time I checked ofono sources it seemed very
incomplete that's the reason for my doubts, as consequence the gui
phone part should be incomplete too. It may be he has only support for
3g data connectivity? (is the real question!)

Regards

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Re: Nokia N900

2009-08-29 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=133759
>4
>
> I found a screenshot on:
>
> http://www.hwupgrade.it/news/telefonia/nokia-n900-internet-tablet-con-ma
>emo-5_29935-10.html
>
> where it seems there is a phone app running, but I'm not sure it's a
> GSM/UMTS call, it may be voip?
> Some rumors about that?

I believe this device is running ofono stack, see http://www.ofono.org/


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Re: Nokia N900

2009-08-29 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/29/09, Nicola Mfb  wrote:
> http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1337594
>
> I found a screenshot on:
>
> http://www.hwupgrade.it/news/telefonia/nokia-n900-internet-tablet-con-maemo-5_29935-10.html
>
> where it seems there is a phone app running, but I'm not sure it's a
> GSM/UMTS call, it may be voip?
> Some rumors about that?
>
> Regards
>
> Nicola

It's already known that N900 is UMTS phone, not only internet tablet.

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Re: [Shr-User] Putting the *S*table back in *S*HR!

2009-08-29 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Klaus 'mrmoku'
Kurzmann wrote:
> Am Samstag 29 August 2009 14:00:29 schrieb Nicola Mfb:
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Tom wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> > The goal will probably be creating and testing a new testing image every
>> > 2 weeks or so. Though we haven't officially decided on that.
>>
>> May you elaborate? why every 2 weeks a new testing image?
>> will not creating a single testing image and opkg update && opkg
>> upgrade be sufficient?
> yeah, but for those installing it freshly having to flash and then upgrade is 
> a
> pain... And the longer the list of packages to update... the more probable it
> will be that opkg bails out.

Ah! so "creating and testing" means "building" ;)
Happy to hear that! about opkg why do not use an "old" version? in the
past it worked fine.

Regards and keep up the upcoming good work ;)

Nicola

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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

2009-08-29 Thread Joao Pinto
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Markus Törnqvist wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:27:49PM +0300, Markus T�rnqvist wrote:
>>
>>After all that typing, I say we just remove the encode() call and use
>>utf-8 across the board ;)
>
> The below patch works
>
> --- opkg2sql.py.orig  2009-08-29 13:46:21.004642989 +0300
> +++ opkg2sql.py 2009-08-29 13:46:05.995767671 +0300
> @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@
>    source = control['Source']
>    version = control['Version']
>    architecture = control['Architecture']
> -   description =   control['Description'].encode('ascii','ignore')
> +   description =   unicode(control['Description'])
>    homepage =  control['HomePage']
>    package = Package.query.filter_by( \
>      package = package_name, \
>
> --
> mjt
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I have applied the fix at dpkg_control.py, converting the entire
control file contents to utf8.

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Nokia N900

2009-08-29 Thread Nicola Mfb
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1337594

I found a screenshot on:

http://www.hwupgrade.it/news/telefonia/nokia-n900-internet-tablet-con-maemo-5_29935-10.html

where it seems there is a phone app running, but I'm not sure it's a
GSM/UMTS call, it may be voip?
Some rumors about that?

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Re: [Shr-User] Putting the *S*table back in *S*HR!

2009-08-29 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Samstag 29 August 2009 14:00:29 schrieb Nicola Mfb:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Tom wrote:
> [...]
>
> > The goal will probably be creating and testing a new testing image every
> > 2 weeks or so. Though we haven't officially decided on that.
>
> May you elaborate? why every 2 weeks a new testing image?
> will not creating a single testing image and opkg update && opkg
> upgrade be sufficient?
yeah, but for those installing it freshly having to flash and then upgrade is a 
pain... And the longer the list of packages to update... the more probable it 
will be that opkg bails out.

>
> Regards
>
> Nicola
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Re: [Shr-User] Putting the *S*table back in *S*HR!

2009-08-29 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Tom wrote:
[...]
> The goal will probably be creating and testing a new testing image every 2
> weeks or so. Though we haven't officially decided on that.

May you elaborate? why every 2 weeks a new testing image?
will not creating a single testing image and opkg update && opkg
upgrade be sufficient?

Regards

Nicola

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Re: Om 2009, NWA, keyboard?

2009-08-29 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/28/09, Carsten Gerlach  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Am Freitag 28. August 2009 22:06:12 schrieb Stefan Fröbe:
>> cd /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards
>> rm Default.kbd
>> ln -sf Terminal.kbd Default.kbd
>
> Thank you, this works. And what do I have to do, that the keyboard starts
> directly when I start the terminal?
>
> Greetings, Carsten
>
>
>
> --
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> http://daswaldhorn.funpic.de/gpg.html
> =
> www.stopptdievorratsdatenspeicherung.de
>

In SHR it's done my matchbox-keyboard-im package. I don't think it's
available in Om2009.

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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

2009-08-29 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/28/09, arne anka  wrote:
>> This post in that same thread mentions that leaving an LED on would
>> halve the battery life while suspended:
>
> what it says is, _blinking_ would halve it, since blinking would mean
> resume/suspend/resume/suspend ...
> still, there's an issue with the aux led in some versions, which makes it
> eat a lot of power.

Some versions = GTA02A5.

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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

2009-08-29 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:27:49PM +0300, Markus T�rnqvist wrote:
>
>After all that typing, I say we just remove the encode() call and use
>utf-8 across the board ;)

The below patch works

--- opkg2sql.py.orig  2009-08-29 13:46:21.004642989 +0300
+++ opkg2sql.py 2009-08-29 13:46:05.995767671 +0300
@@ -135,7 +135,7 @@
source = control['Source']
version = control['Version']
architecture = control['Architecture']
-   description =   control['Description'].encode('ascii','ignore')
+   description =   unicode(control['Description'])
homepage =  control['HomePage'] 
package = Package.query.filter_by( \
  package = package_name, \

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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer

2009-08-29 Thread Matthias Huber
Petr Vanek schrieb:
>> Imagine, you are standing outside in the sun and someone calls you:
>> you hurry for getting the call and ...
>> tap on "Reject"-button because you didn't see it right (in the sun)
>>
>> wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli?
>> 
>
>
> good idea. please have a look at [1] where redesign of shr phone apps
> is being drafted. feel free to contribute there,
>
> petr
>
>
> [1]http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/phoneui
>
>   
Calling3 in http://www.alasal.be/openmoko/shr2/dialer/r1/ is great for me.

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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

2009-08-29 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:00:06AM +0200, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote:
>Am Samstag 29 August 2009 04:31:28 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez:
>> the problem persist, so the conversion to ascii doesn't solve it, the
>> problematic package description is pyelf-sudoku, it seems that is not
>> on UTF-8 nor ascii, is that posible?
>It is UTF-8 (at least if I can believe my vim which ususally I can :).
>The only special char in there is the × in 9×9 and 3×3 

Python has one big suck in it wrt to character sets, it's using ascii
by default and not utf-8.

So the first part of the solution is to put the lines
import sys
sys.setdefaultencoding('utf-8')

into a file called sitecustomize.py in the python search path.

On Ubuntu this is /etc/python2.6/sitecustomize.py or whatever, but
it could be eg. /usr/lib/python2.6/sitecustomize.py

To test, start python and check import sys; sys.getdefaultencoding()

Python then deletes (!!) the setdefaultencoding function altogether
so it can not be changed at runtime, it's available only on interpreter
startup and if sitecustomize.py uses it.

Anyway, the code is using 'ignore' to skip over characters; imo
that looks a bit bad

In [1]: 'ö'.encode('ascii', 'ignore')
Out[1]: ''

In [2]: 'ö'.encode('ascii', 'replace')
Out[2]: '?'

Or is there a reason we recode this, why can't we just use utf8 like
most normal people? IIRC debian changelogs have to be utf8 nowadays too.

After all that typing, I say we just remove the encode() call and use
utf-8 across the board ;)

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Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-29 Thread Christian Rüb
Christian Rüb:
> arne anka:
> > i just tried qnavitctl right now and had two problems:
> > - where is the bookmarks.csv supposed to come from? navit creates  
> > bookmark.txt
> > - tab "buttons", button "register" leads only to "could not get Navit  
> > instance" and
> > 
> > QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
> > reply: ""
> > coud not get iter
> 
> Thanks for your feedback, please have a look at my frist mail:
> you have to create a bookmarks.csv yourself
> 
> format is NOT the same as navit bookmarks.txt, but
> name; lat; lon
> 
> The reason is I only support decimal coordinates in QNavitCtl and not all 
> types of card mappings as Navit does.
> 
> The second error sounds like dbus is not activated for navit, you have to 
> explicitely do this in navit.xml:
> 
> ...
>  active="yes"/>
> ...
> 
> by default it says "no" here

Wiki page added:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QNavitCtl

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Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-29 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
>
> GPRS worked fine.
>

Could you please post an explanation on how to test/use gprs on debian?


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[gta02-core] Another statistical milestone reached

2009-08-29 Thread Jakob
On 8/29/09, Jakob  wrote:
> hey, i'm one of them "silent"ones and i realy appreciate the work you are
> doing.
> thanks!
>
> jake
>
> On 8/28/09, Álvaro Lopes  wrote:
>> Werner Almesberger wrote:
>>> The gta02-core list has reached 100 non-digested subscribers today.
>>> (Plus 12 digested ones, one of them with delivery disabled.)
>>
>> Kudos to us all ;)
>>
>> If we keep like this, we might surpass ker...@vger soon :)
>>
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hey, i'm one of them "silent"ones and i realy appreciate the work you are doing.
thanks!

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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer

2009-08-29 Thread Petr Vanek
>Imagine, you are standing outside in the sun and someone calls you:
>you hurry for getting the call and ...
>tap on "Reject"-button because you didn't see it right (in the sun)
>
>wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli?


good idea. please have a look at [1] where redesign of shr phone apps
is being drafted. feel free to contribute there,

petr


[1]http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/phoneui


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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

2009-08-29 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Samstag 29 August 2009 04:31:28 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez:
> the problem persist, so the conversion to ascii doesn't solve it, the
> problematic package description is pyelf-sudoku, it seems that is not
> on UTF-8 nor ascii, is that posible?
> Can any one on SHR mantainers take a look on this and fix it?, surelly
> the origin is in the description on the bb file ,isn't it?
> now is late but later on I will continue with import hardcoding the
> skip of this packages to see if there is another one problematic.
It is UTF-8 (at least if I can believe my vim which ususally I can :).
The only special char in there is the × in 9×9 and 3×3 

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[shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer

2009-08-29 Thread Matthias Huber

Imagine, you are standing outside in the sun and someone calls you:
you hurry for getting the call and ...
tap on "Reject"-button because you didn't see it right (in the sun)

wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli?

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Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-29 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/28 Radek Polak :
> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>> Tried to install debian today:
> ...
>> E: Internal error: install

Unfortunately it was found out installing Debian via the install.sh
script is broken until dpkg 1.15.4 lands in unstable. So, keep eye on
http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dpkg.html

Only manual installation using debootstrap is possible meanwhile.
Updated http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner#CurrentStatusofInstallation

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Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-29 Thread Christian Rüb
arne anka:
> i just tried qnavitctl right now and had two problems:
> - where is the bookmarks.csv supposed to come from? navit creates  
> bookmark.txt
> - tab "buttons", button "register" leads only to "could not get Navit  
> instance" and
> 
> QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
> reply: ""
> coud not get iter

Thanks for your feedback, please have a look at my frist mail:
you have to create a bookmarks.csv yourself

format is NOT the same as navit bookmarks.txt, but
name; lat; lon

The reason is I only support decimal coordinates in QNavitCtl and not all types 
of card mappings as Navit does.

The second error sounds like dbus is not activated for navit, you have to 
explicitely do this in navit.xml:

...

...

by default it says "no" here

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