Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Tom Yates]

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Robin Paulson wrote:

> 2009/8/31 Tom Yates :
>> secondly, does that not mean that a call from 01223456789 (in the UK)
>> should match a contact listed as +441223456789, when the following
>> settings apply?
>
> it works perfectly for me - i didn't put anything except a '0' in the
> area code field though

that's great news.  are you in the UK?

and if so, could you let me know a) your /etc/phone-utils.conf b) a couple 
of contacts from your address book (i don't want to know the numbers, just 
the first three or four digits so i can see what format you store them in) 
and c) confirmation that the numbers are resolved to contact names for 
incoming calls AND call log entries AND SMS messages?

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> International prefix is *never* +. Most probably (as in whole Europe)
> you have to set it as 00.

ok, done.  i tried both, and it didn't help.

> What is that area_code=1223? Try with area_code blanked.

that's my local area code (comparable to "179" in the wiki article i sent 
you).

i have blanked it out (though i had to edit the file by hand for 
that as the GUI won't take an empty value, saying it must be a number) but 
i still don't have perfect resolution.

at the moment:

/etc/phone-utils.conf says
[local]
international_prefix=00
national_prefix=0
country_code=44
area_code=

my first contact is now (six zeros substituted for real number)
wife0044797100

and her call log entry is right, her text messages show as coming from 
her, but her incoming calls still show up as just "0797100".

thanks to both of your for your follow-ups, hopefully you can help me get 
this 100% working!


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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Risto H. Kurppa]

>> Just wondering what's happening :)
> the 8215 packages from all, armv4t and gta-02 from shr-unstable parsed
> successfully using the latest changes of Joao :)


WOW David, this is awesome

Now
a) filter all libraries away
b) maybe filter away files with no proper .desktop file..

Or something not to have it bloated and impossible to find anything there :)

So what's the thing with descriptions? Do they have to be filled in
manually - no changes of using some importer script there too?
Screenshots need to be added manually of course.

David: I'd like you to share your work with at least Markus. It's nice
to hear that you're doing progress but as this is supposed to be a
community effort, it's vital that also some other know about what's
happening and can go and learn the code we're using etc.

Can't wait to hear/see more.


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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Markus T�rnqvist]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:19:07PM +0100, Joao Pinto wrote:
>Hello,
>sorry but I need to quit the list, it has more traffic than I can handle :(

Heh, I ignore threads that don't look relevant to the showroom, but sure :)

>Please feel free add me on the cc whenever you would like to have my input.
>I will also be available on IRC as always :)

Obrigado :)

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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Markus T�rnqvist]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 07:23:50AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:

>> Just wondering what's happening :)
>the 8215 packages from all, armv4t and gta-02 from shr-unstable parsed
>successfully using the latest changes of Joao :)

Wonderful news!

What's the next step then? Set something up the dev server? You want
my help with that?

Then we need to figure out features and a kind of a roadmap! :)

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Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Matthias Huber]

Cameron Frazier schrieb:
> Evening all,
>
> I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so,
> and am in need of some advice.  I'd like to use my FR over there, and
> as such need a prepaid SIM.
>
> As for requirements;
> 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France
> (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne)
> 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS
> 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America
> sucks this for reasonable plans).
>
> I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM.
>
> Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to
> ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Kind regards,
>   
The cheapest gprs prepaid in germany is simyo: www.simyo.de 9 c't / MB

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Re: Not really yet usable. but an idea for multitouch

[Alex Teiche]

Hi,

I have been researching Multi-Touch for the past year as a Hobbyist, and I
consider myself somewhat well versed in the technology:)

While that method would definately work, its obviously going to be cumbersom
and not portable at all.  I have been experimenting with a method of
Multi-Touch that uses an array of Phototransistors, and I currently have a
8x8 Array working very well(3x3 Inch active sensing area, plenty to cover
the FreeRunner's screen).  Its only issue is speed, which is going to be
fixed soon with my Digi-Key order that is on its way.

Mine obviously isn't perfect either, when I built it I had a more
Laptop/Tablet shaped device in mind(just because the array is ~1/4 inch
thick), but I do believe it will be easily adaptable.

Here is a link to my site where I have a video and explaination on an older
test I did:
http://www.xelapond.com/dotclear/index.php?post/2009/06/04/Code%2C-Schematics%2C-Diagrams

And here is a picture of my newest version, 8x8 array:
http://www.xelapond.com/files/r1-8x8-angle.jpg

In the near future I plan on somehow interfacing this to the freerunner.  I
will probably have to separate the screen from the device, and place this
behind it(so I can interact with elements on the screen).

I'm very passionate about Multi-Touch, if you do get anything with a WiiMote
working, be sure to post a link+vid:)  I'd love to see it.

~Alex Teiche


On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Lothar Behrens  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have seen this video and due to a wide angle, a similar solution may
> be adaptable:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s5EvhHy7eQ&feature=related
>
> Any comments?
>
> Lothar
>
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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

2009/8/31 Markus Törnqvist :
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 09:00:44AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
>>
>>Joao, has those fix been uploaded to the bzr repo?
>
> Have you checked it out?
>
> Just wondering what's happening :)
the 8215 packages from all, armv4t and gta-02 from shr-unstable parsed
successfully using the latest changes of Joao :)


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Re: Nokia N900

[Risto H. Kurppa]

It doesn't have ofono:

http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/ofono.txt

Aug 31 07:27:40  Hi, everybody. I (and others) suspect
that ofono will be used in the upcoming "n900" device. What driver
will be used for that, ISI? Is it some userspace library communicating
with usb devices via kernel "phonet" driver? I tried googling before
asking ;)
Aug 31 07:32:22  PaulFertser: oFono isn't part of Maemo 5
yet. The ISI modem plugin needs a lot of work before that can happen.
:)
Aug 31 07:32:56  akiniemi: we all assumed that one of the
reasons for bootsting oFono work is the upcoming device from Nokia...
Aug 31 07:33:24  akiniemi: what will it use for telephony then?
Aug 31 07:36:37  PaulFertser: proprietary stack, built on
top of PhoNet
Aug 31 07:37:04  But oFono is what we're expecting to use in
the future. We just haven't been able to say it aloud. ;)


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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Vincent
Meurisse wrote:
> On Monday 31 August 2009 21:23:07 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>> Just a follower from the side - it'd make qtmoko more interesting if
>> the site had screenshots around..
> I made some screenshots. Unfortunately the upload function of the wiki is not
> working. Take a look at .

Yes, this is what I wanted to see, great!


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Re: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly

[Radek Polak]

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:

> I would like to use my freerunner in a plug&play mode. Just attach to the
> computer, and simply ssh in using terminal or nautilus.

You have to setup dhcp server on your freerunner. E.g. on debian:

apt-get install dhcp3-server

edit dhcp server configuration:

nano /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf

and place something like this there:

option domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220;
option routers 192.168.0.202;

subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 192.168.0.1;

 # Unknown clients get this pool.
 pool {
   #option domain-name-servers bogus.example.com;
   max-lease-time 7200;
   range 192.168.0.200 192.168.0.201;
   allow unknown clients;
 }
}

Now restart dhcps server:

/etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart

plug your Freerunner and NetworkManager should always assign the right
IP address.

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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Radek Polak]

> On Monday 31 August 2009 21:23:07 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> > Just a follower from the side - it'd make qtmoko more interesting if
> > the site had screenshots around..

I was hoping someone else will do it :)

> I made some screenshots. Unfortunately the upload function of the wiki is not 
> working. Take a look at .

Great, i sent mail to Fale, he is admin of qtmoko so he will hopefully
fix this.

Thanks

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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Radek Polak]

Vinzenz Hersche wrote:

> first, is it now possible to import vcf-files without changing sim-entrys? i 
> must not see the sim-entrys, but i didn't want all the 
> contactname/hp-contacts 
> on my sim-card.

No idea here, i would have to check sources...

> second.. does it also delete all sms'es from sim-card? for me, this isn't 
> good, because i couldn't read them then later on shr or something.

Yes. Maybe it could be made optional. This is the commit and the place
where it could be changed:

http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/commit/d9eb3b8d2e4b4c4e339c6249c192e1cde0bcdcc9

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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Radek Polak]

Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote:

> I just noticed something strange though: I got a couple of calls, and
> I couldn't hear the caller. The phone wakes up and rings, I can
> answer, and the caller hears me, but i can't hear anything on the
> speaker. This problem only happens on incoming calls, outgoing calls
> work just fine. Could this have to do with the phone not waking up
> from suspend properly?

This is known issue. Workaround is to outgoing call after reboot (e.g.
to some non paid number). I think it's more likely related to wrong
alsa state settings then suspend. It's quite annoying and i hope to
fix this soon.

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Adding #1024 fix to buzzfix in India

[Alok G. Singh]

Hey Rakshat,

There have been a number of success reports[1] from people about
replacing C1009 with a 22uF cap. Alternatively, add a 10uF cap in
parallel to C1009. I would prefer the first method with a 0805 cap.

Is this within the capabilities of the person doing the buzzfix ?

TIA.

Footnotes: 
[1]  
http://www.google.com/search?q=fixing+%231024+successful+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.openmoko.org%2Fpipermail%2Fcommunity%2F

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Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Angus Ainslie]

On August 31, 2009 02:58:50 pm Cameron Frazier wrote:
> I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM.
>
> Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to
> ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this.
>
> Any suggestions?
>

Last time I went to Germany I picked up a blau.de SIM card. The rates are 
reasonable compared to Canadian rates. 2 issues with this are the other 
countries will have high roaming rates and you need to have someone with a 
German credit card or bank account get it for you.

Angus

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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[c_c]

Hi,
  I've only about finished adding all that I felt was needed. There is some
testing that still needs to be done.
  Once I get these basic features working reliably - I'll move on to adding
more features as desired. So the wishlist is open :-)


Leonti wrote:
> 
> Things I noticed so far:
> -  there is no line breaking for cell broadcasting info
> - It would be nice to have a possibility to select broadcasting
> channels 
> 
  Yup. I agree. Will sort this out today.

Leonti wrote:
> 
> - If I go to Contacts->Select some contact->Send SMS. What I see:
> 
> To: + button "Select Contact" - I'd like to see To: + Contact name
> I've just selected + button "Add more recipients" (but shorter :))
> 
  That slipped out during my testing. Actually, sending sms's misses some
features anyway :-
1. retry on sending failure
2. breaking up long messages into smaller ones (160 words)
3. adding multiple contacts to whom the message is to be sent

  Will take this up soon.

Steven_** wrote:
> 
> The contacts is nice, particularly the jump feature.  It didn't work
> for the first few letters I chose (it would instead jump to the end of
> the list). 
> 
  Yes, the list takes a while before its ready. I'm trying to speed it up.

Steven_** wrote:
> 
> Also, the sorting should probably be case insensitive.
> 
  Will do that.

Edder wrote:
> 
> Not sure if this is actually a neo bug or a launcher bug, but it would
> be nice if we could somehow change the background color.
> 
  Well, changing colours requires a local app theme and I'm not particularly
savvy with the .edc concepts and themes. Will take this on in a little while
- after the basic features have been added. In the interim I remember having
this issue with intone and the initial paroli releases. Let me see if this
is similar.

  All other feedback / ideas / wishes are welcome.
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Re: Nokia N900

[yangm]

As I known about N810, 98% code is open.
some driver (such as wifi driver), some core component (such as
connectivityManager) are private code.

It's a really difficault work to write private code without break GPL.



2009/9/1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:00:32PM +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote:
> > Just found the older n800 is supported by OE and mamona runs on it,
> > but I did never care about that and google does not help very much in
> > understanding how much the device is "open".
>
> Or how much it is not open (a lot WRT drivers):
>
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages
>
> Rui
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Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft & design

[Adam Jimerson]

Bernd Prünster wrote:
> Fabian Killus schrieb:
>> I did a quick mockup of how I would like to have such a showroom
>> look like. The "traditional" openmoko colors were used.
>>
>> Please comment if you like it or not (I know it's not perfect, just an
>> idea). Here comes the png:
>>
>> http://ji-xiansheng.de/tmp/om_packages_mockup.png
>>
>> jxs
> Please dont make the same mistake that was made relaunching opkg.org:
> dont use such huge graphics.
> keep in mind that the showroom should maybe also easily viewable @ 480x640.
>
> just my 2 cents
>

I agree if the site is not easily viewable from the Freerunner, for 
people using WiFi (if they are lucky enough), GPRS, or even Bluetooth 
for internet.  Other wise I like the idea on the table, will programs be 
categorized by the distro they are known to work with, ie Intone works 
with OM2009 and SHR so will it show up on both?

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Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Vinzenz Hersche]

Am Montag, 31. August 2009 23.10:42 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:58:50PM -0400, Cameron Frazier wrote:
> > 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France
> > (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne)
>
> This should be possible with most pre-paid card. However, roaming costs are
> not cheap (although they just got a load less expensive, thanks to the
> European Parliament), and you'd certainly pay less if you bought a new card
> per country unless you are not going to use the card very much.
>
> > 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS
>
> AFAIK, this is possible with any pre-paid card.
>
> > 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America
> > sucks this for reasonable plans).
>
> Again, any decent carrier with offer this.
>
in switzerland is no prepaid-card with gprs avaible, as i know. just with 
abonoments.
if i'm wrong, please write it into list, i like to had something like this :) 
but i already searched...
> Regards
>
> Jeff
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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Vinzenz Hersche]

Am Sonntag, 30. August 2009 14.20:18 schrieb Ahmad Abdel-Yaman:
> Hello everyone, I just tried the latest QtMoko release and it's absolutely
> excellent. I do have a couple of questions though: 1. Where do I need to
> put the images for QtMoko to see them (for example if I want to change the
> homescreen background or assign a certain photo to a contact)? And is there
> a specific file type that I should use?2. If I want to change the
> ringtones, do I still have to replace the original phonering.wav and
> alarm.wav with files that have the same name and type or do I simply need
> to add the new files to the same directory
> (/opt/qtmoko/etc/SystemRingTones)? Thank you.Ahmad
i've also two questions..
first, is it now possible to import vcf-files without changing sim-entrys? i 
must not see the sim-entrys, but i didn't want all the contactname/hp-contacts 
on my sim-card.
second.. does it also delete all sms'es from sim-card? for me, this isn't 
good, because i couldn't read them then later on shr or something.

are some options for these 2 things?
i searched, but didn't found.. would be nice to know.. :)

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Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Ed Kapitein]

On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 16:58 -0400, Cameron Frazier wrote:
> Evening all,
> 
> I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so,
> and am in need of some advice.  I'd like to use my FR over there, and
> as such need a prepaid SIM.
> 
> As for requirements;
> 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France
> (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne)
> 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS
> 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America
> sucks this for reasonable plans).
> 
> I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM.
> 
> Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to
> ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Toaster
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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Vincent Meurisse]

On Monday 31 August 2009 21:23:07 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Just a follower from the side - it'd make qtmoko more interesting if
> the site had screenshots around..
I made some screenshots. Unfortunately the upload function of the wiki is not 
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Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

[Dan Staley]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Marcel  wrote:

> Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 07:18 -0500 schrieb D. Fett:
> > - speed up map display
>
> It may be just me, but it feels slower than the last version...
> Especially reaching the map view the first time after starting the app
> takes very long.
>
> > - colors on non-standard themes should look right now :-)
>
> Works in principle. :) You still seem to set the text color once on the
> map view tab, after having had that visible all the text gets black on
> black again...
>
> Thanks for the update, it's getting better and better!
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Thanks for this app!  I never looked into geocaching beforeand i just
downloaded your app and see there are TONS of geocaches hidden around my
city!
I'm extremely excited about going out and using this app to help me find
some!  Thanks!

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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Joao Pinto]

Hello,
sorry but I need to quit the list, it has more traffic than I can handle :(

Please feel free add me on the cc whenever you would like to have my input.

I will also be available on IRC as always :)

Best regards

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Markus Törnqvist wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 09:00:44AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
>>
>>Joao, has those fix been uploaded to the bzr repo?
>
> Have you checked it out?
>
> Just wondering what's happening :)
>
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Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Jeffrey Ratcliffe]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:58:50PM -0400, Cameron Frazier wrote:
> 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France
> (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne)

This should be possible with most pre-paid card. However, roaming costs are
not cheap (although they just got a load less expensive, thanks to the
European Parliament), and you'd certainly pay less if you bought a new card
per country unless you are not going to use the card very much.

> 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS

AFAIK, this is possible with any pre-paid card.

> 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America
> sucks this for reasonable plans).

Again, any decent carrier with offer this.

Regards

Jeff

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[Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Cameron Frazier]

Evening all,

I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so,
and am in need of some advice.  I'd like to use my FR over there, and
as such need a prepaid SIM.

As for requirements;
1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France
(Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne)
2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS
3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America
sucks this for reasonable plans).

I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM.

Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to
ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this.

Any suggestions?

Kind regards,

Toaster

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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> 2009/8/31 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 
>
>
>> -
>>while: NewMissedCalls()
>>actions: SetLed("gta02_aux_red", "blink")
>> -
>>while: UnreadMessages()
>>actions: SetLed("gta02_aux_red", "blink")
>> -
>>
>> In rules.yaml. Of course instead of SetLed you can use other commands :)
>>
>
> This may be a stupid question, but how does opimd know that the user has or
> hasn't read a message?

By MessageRead field. When it's 1, it's read, when it's 0 it's unread.
Look how opimd-notifier works.

The same for calls, but with New field.

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Re: Buzz-fixed Freerunner for sale

[Uncle Kridley]

Pablo Miño wrote:
> 1. Anything wrong with it?

Nothing.  I'm selling because the software stack never got to the level 
I'd need for day-to-day use, so I bought a Pre (which, btw, has a really 
nice SDK).

> 2. Do you accept paypal?

Sure.  Send me a private message and we can work out the details.

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 16:26, Dirk Bergstrom wrote:
>> Lightly used Freerunner for sale.  Please give my phone a good home.
>>
>> GTA02
>> S/N 8A8604276
>> two batteries
>> buzz fix applied by SDG Systems
>> charger + foreign adapters
>> headphones
>> pouch
>> original box (with a big mailing label on it)
>> screen protector
>> boots fine
>>
>> $175
>>
>> I'm in Silicon Valley, and will mail it anywhere in the US for free.


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Re: Buzz-fixed Freerunner for sale

[Pablo Miño]

1. Anything wrong with it?
2. Do you accept paypal?

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 16:26, Dirk Bergstrom wrote:
> Lightly used Freerunner for sale.  Please give my phone a good home.
>
> GTA02
> S/N 8A8604276
> two batteries
> buzz fix applied by SDG Systems
> charger + foreign adapters
> headphones
> pouch
> original box (with a big mailing label on it)
> screen protector
> boots fine
>
> $175
>
> I'm in Silicon Valley, and will mail it anywhere in the US for free.
>
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Re: external keyboard & suspend

[Paul Fertser]

Dan Staley  writes:
> I'm not sure what kind of keyboard you are using...but I connect my
> freerunner to a bluetooth keyboard (iGo Stowaway bluetooth keyboard)
> on a pretty regular basis in SHR-U.  To solve the problem you are
> mentioning, I wrote a little shell script that connects to my
> bluetooth keyboard (or disconnects if I run it a second time). 

hidd? :(

Can you please try bluez4 method as described on the wiki?

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Buzz-fixed Freerunner for sale

[Dirk Bergstrom]

Lightly used Freerunner for sale.  Please give my phone a good home.

GTA02
S/N 8A8604276
two batteries
buzz fix applied by SDG Systems
charger + foreign adapters
headphones
pouch
original box (with a big mailing label on it)
screen protector
boots fine

$175

I'm in Silicon Valley, and will mail it anywhere in the US for free.

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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Risto H. Kurppa]

Hi!

Just a follower from the side - it'd make qtmoko more interesting if
the site had screenshots around.. I'd say that's what most people look
for first when visiting a site for an app/distro. Now I only see that
Gtalk doesn't work, I have Pidgin running on SHR so why to bother.

If I saw how (good) it looks I might give it a try.


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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Michal Brzozowski]

2009/8/31 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 


> -
>while: NewMissedCalls()
>actions: SetLed("gta02_aux_red", "blink")
> -
>while: UnreadMessages()
>actions: SetLed("gta02_aux_red", "blink")
> -
>
> In rules.yaml. Of course instead of SetLed you can use other commands :)
>

This may be a stupid question, but how does opimd know that the user has or
hasn't read a message?
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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> 2009/8/31 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 
>
>> On 8/31/09, Nathan Kinkade  wrote:
>> > So you're already using the AUX light to let you know when a call or SMS
>> > was missed?  Is this only while the phone is charging and/or not
>> > supended?  How did you get that working?
>>
>> It's blinking always when there is missed event and phone is not
>> suspended.
>>
>> I implemented it in opimd and oeventsd. My work is already in
>> frameworkd (for some long time), but to use that you have to use opimd
>> based phone apps.
>>
>
> Any documentation on this?
>

-
while: NewMissedCalls()
actions: SetLed("gta02_aux_red", "blink")
-
while: UnreadMessages()
actions: SetLed("gta02_aux_red", "blink")
-

In rules.yaml. Of course instead of SetLed you can use other commands :)

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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Michal Brzozowski]

2009/8/31 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 

> On 8/31/09, Nathan Kinkade  wrote:
> > So you're already using the AUX light to let you know when a call or SMS
> > was missed?  Is this only while the phone is charging and/or not
> > supended?  How did you get that working?
>
> It's blinking always when there is missed event and phone is not suspended.
>
> I implemented it in opimd and oeventsd. My work is already in
> frameworkd (for some long time), but to use that you have to use opimd
> based phone apps.
>

Any documentation on this?
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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, Nathan Kinkade  wrote:
> So you're already using the AUX light to let you know when a call or SMS
> was missed?  Is this only while the phone is charging and/or not
> supended?  How did you get that working?

It's blinking always when there is missed event and phone is not suspended.

I implemented it in opimd and oeventsd. My work is already in
frameworkd (for some long time), but to use that you have to use opimd
based phone apps.

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Re: How to change theme from script?

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, RANJAN  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have change the theme to default in SHR from Illume and the top bar has
> gone.This has made my access limited as my settings app from Desktop is
> failing t launch .Is it possible to change the theme from command line back
> to Illume?
>
> Sriranjan
>

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How to change theme from script?

[RANJAN]

Hi,

I have change the theme to default in SHR from Illume and the top bar has
gone.This has made my access limited as my settings app from Desktop is
failing t launch .Is it possible to change the theme from command line back
to Illume?

Sriranjan
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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Markus T�rnqvist]

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 09:00:44AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
>
>Joao, has those fix been uploaded to the bzr repo?

Have you checked it out?

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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Nathan Kinkade]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:40:53PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> 
> A5 isn't prototype, it was sold to end-user for some time. And waking
> system is bad idea.
> 
> PS. I have A5 and I'm already using AUX LED to blink when there are
> missed calls or unread messages using opimd interface. I'm just saying
> facts (well, that was me who noticed that power-hungry aux led) ;)

Hmmm.  And it looks like I've got revision A5 too. :-)  I was  basing
what I said off something I had read on the Openmoko wiki, which seems
to have been incorrect.

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo

Hardware: GTA02
Revision: 24420350


So you're already using the AUX light to let you know when a call or SMS
was missed?  Is this only while the phone is charging and/or not
supended?  How did you get that working?

And as someone else pointed out, illuminating the power LED instead of
the AUX might be a nice idea if the power consumption flaw only exists
for the AUX LED on revision A5.

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Re: external keyboard & suspend

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

This is a bug in odeviced. It's already fixed in fsodeviced, which will 
substitute odeviced in the very near future. As a workaround, please use mdbus 
or fsoraw to request the display resource.

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Re: external keyboard & suspend

[Vinzenz Hersche]

sorry, false information. it's not from pulster, it's from telepixel.

http://dshop.ch/osc/product_info.php?cPath=24_27&products_id=38

it's with a cable and i simply do the device in host-mode to make it working.. 
so your script is useless for me..

thx anyway.. :)

Am Montag, 31. August 2009 19.25:40 schrieb Dan Staley:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Vinzenz Hersche  wrote:
> > hello all,
> >
> > i've got a keyboard from pulster for the openmoko. this works well with
> > shr-
> > unstable, but there's a problem:
> > i wrote something, then the screen would be black for a half second. so i
> > could wrote again and in one moment, it goes to suspend (in the moment i
> > write).
> >
> > now i don't know if this is a kernel- fso- or shr-problem.. but would be
> > nice
> > if it's fixable..
> >
> > greets
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> I'm not sure what kind of keyboard you are using...but I connect my
> freerunner to a bluetooth keyboard (iGo Stowaway bluetooth keyboard) on a
> pretty regular basis in SHR-U.
> To solve the problem you are mentioning, I wrote a little shell script that
> connects to my bluetooth keyboard (or disconnects if I run it a second
> time).
> I run the script using fsoraw to request the Display and Bluetooth
> resources.  This keeps the display from dimming (and consequently the
> auto-suspend from running) as long as I am connected to my keyboard.
>
> You will notice the script sleeps indefinately after it connects.  This
> keeps the Display and Bluetooth resources requested until I run the program
> again, which will kill both instances of it and release the resources.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> -Dan
>
>
> run with: fsoraw -r Display,Bluetooth /usr/share/btkb
>
> #!/bin/sh
> echo "`ps -A | grep btkb | wc -l`"
>
> if [ "`ps -A | grep btkb | wc -l`" = "2" ];
> then
> echo "connecting..."
> hciconfig hci0 up
> sleep 1s
> if [ "`hidd --search | wc -l`" = "1" ];
> then
> echo "No Keyboard found...exiting"
> hciconfig hci0 down
> exit 0
> else
> echo "Keyboard found and connected!  sleeping..."
> while true;
> do
> sleep 10m
> done
> fi
> else
> echo "killing current process..."
> killall btkb
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Re: external keyboard & suspend

[Dan Staley]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Vinzenz Hersche  wrote:

> hello all,
>
> i've got a keyboard from pulster for the openmoko. this works well with
> shr-
> unstable, but there's a problem:
> i wrote something, then the screen would be black for a half second. so i
> could wrote again and in one moment, it goes to suspend (in the moment i
> write).
>
> now i don't know if this is a kernel- fso- or shr-problem.. but would be
> nice
> if it's fixable..
>
> greets
>
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I'm not sure what kind of keyboard you are using...but I connect my
freerunner to a bluetooth keyboard (iGo Stowaway bluetooth keyboard) on a
pretty regular basis in SHR-U.
To solve the problem you are mentioning, I wrote a little shell script that
connects to my bluetooth keyboard (or disconnects if I run it a second
time).
I run the script using fsoraw to request the Display and Bluetooth
resources.  This keeps the display from dimming (and consequently the
auto-suspend from running) as long as I am connected to my keyboard.

You will notice the script sleeps indefinately after it connects.  This
keeps the Display and Bluetooth resources requested until I run the program
again, which will kill both instances of it and release the resources.

Hope this helps!

-Dan


run with: fsoraw -r Display,Bluetooth /usr/share/btkb

#!/bin/sh
echo "`ps -A | grep btkb | wc -l`"

if [ "`ps -A | grep btkb | wc -l`" = "2" ];
then
echo "connecting..."
hciconfig hci0 up
sleep 1s
if [ "`hidd --search | wc -l`" = "1" ];
then
echo "No Keyboard found...exiting"
hciconfig hci0 down
exit 0
else
echo "Keyboard found and connected!  sleeping..."
while true;
do
sleep 10m
done
fi
else
echo "killing current process..."
killall btkb
fi
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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> 2009/8/31 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 
>>
>> On GTA02A5 litting AUX LED will reduce suspend time about 10 times (8
>> mA suspend current, 50 mA LED current)
>>
>
> Is it possible to leave the power btn led on as well? Does power drain issue
> only apply to AUX?

Yup, only to AUX and only on sold GTA02A5. (prototipes have that issue
on all LEDs AFAIK)

> Power button is even better. Blue for missed calls, orange for sms, and
> purple for both :-)
>
> Right now the leds turn off when you suspend. What's the place to change
> this? kernel?

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Re: Nokia N900

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:00:32PM +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote:
> Just found the older n800 is supported by OE and mamona runs on it,
> but I did never care about that and google does not help very much in
> understanding how much the device is "open".

Or how much it is not open (a lot WRT drivers):

http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages

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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Michal Brzozowski]

2009/8/31 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 
>
> On GTA02A5 litting AUX LED will reduce suspend time about 10 times (8
> mA suspend current, 50 mA LED current)
>

Is it possible to leave the power btn led on as well? Does power drain issue
only apply to AUX?

Power button is even better. Blue for missed calls, orange for sms, and
purple for both :-)

Right now the leds turn off when you suspend. What's the place to change
this? kernel?
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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, Nathan Kinkade  wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:01:28PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
>> > Is that halving the theoretical suspend time (I thought someone was
>> > claiming a suspend life on about 100 hours) or the real suspend time?
>> > If we're talking about reducing suspend time to 50 hours, I'd be fine
>> > with that.  Honestly, I don't think it'd be that much of an issue as I
>> > would not expect that LED to be on for long.  The point of lighting
>> > the LED would be to get my attention if I was away from my phone when
>> > a call or sms came in.  Obviously the LED would be cleared once I
>> > checked the event.  So, for my usage, I wouldn't expect that LED to
>> > ever be lit for more than 30 minutes.
>> >
>> > -Steven
>> >
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>> On GTA02A5 litting AUX LED will reduce suspend time about 10 times (8
>> mA suspend current, 50 mA LED current)
>
> My understanding is that most commercially sold Freerunners are revision
> 6.  Is that incorrect?  If it is correct then according to what someone
> else posted, the AUX light should only consume around 6mA.
>
> I too would be willing to live with reduced battery life to have this
> feature.  Like Steven said, it's not likely that the light would remain
> lit for too long without me noticing it, so the decrease in battery life
> would certainly be less than 50%, maybe even only reducing it by 10% or
> 20% during normal usage.  And if these recent reports of adding a 10uF
> capacitor to resolve ticket #1024 are true, then that could mean that
> even in a worst case scenario the device could still remain suspended
> with the AUX light illumated for perhaps 50 to 70 hours.
>
> For those with revision a5 or who don't want to risk/bother with lower
> battery life, this feature could be a configuration option.  Also, I
> don't know what drain it puts on the battery, but waking the system just
> to check if a call or SMS was missed surely has some power consumption
> consequences that can't be totally discounted in this equation.
>
> Nathan

A5 isn't prototype, it was sold to end-user for some time. And waking
system is bad idea.

PS. I have A5 and I'm already using AUX LED to blink when there are
missed calls or unread messages using opimd interface. I'm just saying
facts (well, that was me who noticed that power-hungry aux led) ;)

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Re: changing illume wallpaper from a script

[jeremy jozwik]

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Petr Vanek wrote:
> is there a way to change the ilume wallpaper automatically from a
> script, rather then from illume settings? enlightenment_remote or even
> with edje-utils?

ive been looking for a terminal command for some time to do exactly
that. thus far i have not found anything.

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Re: illume wallpaper

[jeremy jozwik]

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Petr Vanek wrote:
> i am unable to change the wallpaper on illume desktop (shr-u, all
> updates) as illume complains: "Enlightment was unable to import the file
> due to conversion errors". I noticed this about a week ago, happens
> with both jpeg and png as well. Is it a known bug? Or is installing of
> anything like the edje-utils required?

ive had this problem as well. im going to assume your on shr, so your
going to need to go to the ipk page
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/

and download/install evas-loaders and evas-savers, plus the eet
package and any other dependencies it might need.
after that i was able to import my backgrounds no issue

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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Nathan Kinkade]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:01:28PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> > Is that halving the theoretical suspend time (I thought someone was
> > claiming a suspend life on about 100 hours) or the real suspend time?
> > If we're talking about reducing suspend time to 50 hours, I'd be fine
> > with that.  Honestly, I don't think it'd be that much of an issue as I
> > would not expect that LED to be on for long.  The point of lighting
> > the LED would be to get my attention if I was away from my phone when
> > a call or sms came in.  Obviously the LED would be cleared once I
> > checked the event.  So, for my usage, I wouldn't expect that LED to
> > ever be lit for more than 30 minutes.
> >
> > -Steven
> >
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> 
> On GTA02A5 litting AUX LED will reduce suspend time about 10 times (8
> mA suspend current, 50 mA LED current)

My understanding is that most commercially sold Freerunners are revision
6.  Is that incorrect?  If it is correct then according to what someone
else posted, the AUX light should only consume around 6mA.

I too would be willing to live with reduced battery life to have this
feature.  Like Steven said, it's not likely that the light would remain
lit for too long without me noticing it, so the decrease in battery life
would certainly be less than 50%, maybe even only reducing it by 10% or
20% during normal usage.  And if these recent reports of adding a 10uF
capacitor to resolve ticket #1024 are true, then that could mean that
even in a worst case scenario the device could still remain suspended
with the AUX light illumated for perhaps 50 to 70 hours.

For those with revision a5 or who don't want to risk/bother with lower
battery life, this feature could be a configuration option.  Also, I
don't know what drain it puts on the battery, but waking the system just
to check if a call or SMS was missed surely has some power consumption
consequences that can't be totally discounted in this equation.

Nathan

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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, Steven **  wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Rask Ingemann
> Lambertsen wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:06:24PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
>>> > This post in that same thread mentions that leaving an LED on would
>>> > halve the battery life while suspended:
>>>
>>> what it says is, _blinking_ would halve it, since blinking would mean
>>> resume/suspend/resume/suspend ...
>>
>>   No, leaving it permanently lit would approximately halve battery life.
>> Suspend current is around 8 mA, AUX LED current is around 6 mA (GTA02
>> revision 6)[1].
>>
>> --
>> Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
>
>
> Is that halving the theoretical suspend time (I thought someone was
> claiming a suspend life on about 100 hours) or the real suspend time?
> If we're talking about reducing suspend time to 50 hours, I'd be fine
> with that.  Honestly, I don't think it'd be that much of an issue as I
> would not expect that LED to be on for long.  The point of lighting
> the LED would be to get my attention if I was away from my phone when
> a call or sms came in.  Obviously the LED would be cleared once I
> checked the event.  So, for my usage, I wouldn't expect that LED to
> ever be lit for more than 30 minutes.
>
> -Steven
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On GTA02A5 litting AUX LED will reduce suspend time about 10 times (8
mA suspend current, 50 mA LED current)

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Re: Nokia N900

[Nicola Mfb]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
>> http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=133759
>>4
[...]
> I believe this device is running ofono stack, see http://www.ofono.org/

Would be possible to have FSO support it? close documentation of phone
module but ofono free sources? other problems (e.g. alsa on HTC dream)
? bootloader/kernels?

Just found the older n800 is supported by OE and mamona runs on it,
but I did never care about that and google does not help very much in
understanding how much the device is "open".

Regards

Nicola

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Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?

[Thomas HOCEDEZ]

Hi there !

I updated my (by adding a 10uF cap in parallel), and the result is 
totally excellent !
I can stay up to 4 days without pluging my FR, and during those days 
calling 1h.
I tried on SHRu & QtMoko v8, same results. So, I can say it's fixed for me.

I will "patch" some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post here.

David Garabana Barro a écrit :
> O Martes, 21 de Xullo de 2009, ivvmm escribiu:
>   
>> Hello list,
>>
>> were there any successful fixes since posting
>> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html
>> 
>
> I have fixed it a month ago  with a new 0805 22 uF capacitor.
>
> Since then, having deep_sleep active, I have not suffered from recamping nor 
> lost any call :)
>
> Although I haven't measured battery sleep time, I can assure it's far higher 
> than before.
>
>   
> 
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Re: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly

[Paul Fertser]

Laszlo KREKACS  writes:
> The current way is really hard to teach for a nonexperienced user
> (ie. gf), how to upload musics to the "music player device".;-\

Hahaha, a gf capable of applying the "bass fix" shouldn't need much
help disabling NM and adding several trivial strings to
/etc/network/interfaces (Debian) or /etc/conf.d/net (Gentoo).

Really, the way you propose is wrong, you need to use your OS's
facilities, all modern distros support proper hotplug and configuring
of network devices. 

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udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly

[Laszlo KREKACS]

Hi!

I would like to use my freerunner in a plug&play mode. Just attach to the
computer, and simply ssh in using terminal or nautilus.

Currently 2 things break the above experience:
1. I need to issue manually the following command:
sudo ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth3

If you use two freerunner, it will get different ethX interface (eth2 vs. eth3)
which is rather annoying.
There is ifrename (http://linux.die.net/man/8/ifrename), which could fix it.

2. After some seconds (30-40 sec) the connection is broken. I need to
reissue the above command, and after it does not break anymore.
I highly suspect Networkmanager is f*cking with me.


So the question is, can it be written an udev rule, which do the above
things automatically, and also stop disconnecting the freerunner?

The current way is really hard to teach for a nonexperienced user (ie. gf),
how to upload musics to the "music player device".;-\

Best regards,
 Laszlo

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Re: FreeRunner For Sale

[Esteban Monge]

Hello I want your phone, you have paypal account?
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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Edder]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:55 AM, c_c wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  Much later than I thought, but here's the latest release of Launcher.
>
>  Features
> * Inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog apps
> * uses opim backends
> * shows cell broadcast info
>

It's really starting to look good! The only problem I have at the
moment is that I am unable to read messages that have been send to me
in the sms app. This is probably because I use the neo theme, which
probably sets the fonts to white (the same color as the background).
Not sure if this is actually a neo bug or a launcher bug, but it would
be nice if we could somehow change the background color.

Cheers, Edder

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Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

[Steven **]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Rask Ingemann
Lambertsen wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:06:24PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
>> > This post in that same thread mentions that leaving an LED on would
>> > halve the battery life while suspended:
>>
>> what it says is, _blinking_ would halve it, since blinking would mean
>> resume/suspend/resume/suspend ...
>
>   No, leaving it permanently lit would approximately halve battery life.
> Suspend current is around 8 mA, AUX LED current is around 6 mA (GTA02
> revision 6)[1].
>
> --
> Rask Ingemann Lambertsen


Is that halving the theoretical suspend time (I thought someone was
claiming a suspend life on about 100 hours) or the real suspend time?
If we're talking about reducing suspend time to 50 hours, I'd be fine
with that.  Honestly, I don't think it'd be that much of an issue as I
would not expect that LED to be on for long.  The point of lighting
the LED would be to get my attention if I was away from my phone when
a call or sms came in.  Obviously the LED would be cleared once I
checked the event.  So, for my usage, I wouldn't expect that LED to
ever be lit for more than 30 minutes.

-Steven

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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Steven **]

Your messages app doesn't get most of my contact names right.  It just
shows the phone number.  I'm guessing this is because none of my
contacts have a "1" at the start, but the framework stores the
received number with that "1".  Once I corrected my framework config
file, the shr-messages app gets the contact names correctly.

The contacts is nice, particularly the jump feature.  It didn't work
for the first few letters I chose (it would instead jump to the end of
the list).  Perhaps it hadn't finished building the whole list yet or
something.  Because after jumping around a few times to letters that
did work, I tried one that hadn't worked originally and it then
worked.
Also, the sorting should probably be case insensitive.  I noticed one
of my contacts that starts with a lowercase letter is placed at the
end of the list instead of where it belongs alphabetically.

-Steven

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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Ahmad Abdel-Yaman]

Thanks, that worked perfectly :-)

I just noticed something strange though: I got a couple of calls, and I 
couldn't hear the caller. The phone wakes up and rings, I can answer, and the 
caller hears me, but i can't hear anything on the speaker. This problem only 
happens on incoming calls, outgoing calls work just fine. Could this have to do 
with the phone not waking up from suspend properly?

Ahmad





From: Radek Polak 
To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:15:11 AM
Subject: Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote:
> Hello everyone, I just tried the latest QtMoko release and it's
> absolutely excellent. I do have a couple of questions though:

Nice to hear...

> 1. Where do I need to put the images for QtMoko to see them (for
> example if I want to change the homescreen background or assign a
> certain photo to a contact)? And is there a specific file type that I
> should use?

You should place images under one of these:

/home/root/Documents/images/jpeg
/home/root/Documents/images/png
/media/card/Documents/images/jpeg
/media/card/Documents/images/png

and then do Main menu->Documents->Rescan system

> 2. If I want to change the ringtones, do I still have to replace the
> original phonering.wav and alarm.wav with files that have the same
> name and type or do I simply need to add the new files to the same
> directory (/opt/qtmoko/etc/SystemRingTones)?

You'll probably have to replace them.

Radek


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Re: Litemoko repo

[Bart .]

Dnia 31 sierpnia 2009 16:15 Bart.  napisał(a):

> Hi all!
> 
> How to get source of litemoko?
> git clone http://git.senfdax.de/litephone.git does not work.
> 

But git clone http://git.senfdax.de/litephone works :)

> Best regards
> Bartłomiej Zimoń


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Litemoko repo

[Bart .]

Hi all!

How to get source of litemoko?
git clone http://git.senfdax.de/litephone.git does not work.

Best regards
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Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

[Marcel]

Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 07:18 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: 
> - speed up map display

It may be just me, but it feels slower than the last version...
Especially reaching the map view the first time after starting the app
takes very long.

> - colors on non-standard themes should look right now :-)

Works in principle. :) You still seem to set the text color once on the
map view tab, after having had that visible all the text gets black on
black again...

Thanks for the update, it's getting better and better!


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Re: Om2009

[Mirko Lindner]

Hey,

just wanted to add another 2-cents to the bucket, which by now should  
contain a lot of small change ...

Reading some of the mails in this thread I think we need to get the  
definitions straight:

- fso - phoning middleware
- shr - a distro which comes with fso preinstalled
- om2009 - another distro that comes with fso and paroli preinstalled
- paroli - a python daemon that comes with 4 phoning apps and a  
settings app by default

The question here was: should om2009 be continued.

Never having tried SHR i can't go down that path deciding by  
comparison. I heard many good things about SHR, I liked the guys I  
met at the dev meeting in Braunschweig so I would recommend active  
devs to go for SHR.

As for Om2009 it has always been a one-man show or at least mainly.  
And that man was Angus. He did the cleanup, made the builds etc etc.  
Seen that he has limited resources now I would think Om2009 has a  
dark future ;) So probably best to say good bye while we still have  
good memories :)

I heard there would be efforts to bring paroli to SHR and maybe  
integrate it better or make it smoother, if anyone wants to do so,  
just let me know if you need commit access to the paroli git and  
we'll try to get you into the loop (which can be very chaotic at  
times ;) )

As for me, due to heavy engagements with Qi Hardware I don't have  
much time left for paroli right now, every now and again there is a  
burst of commits but nothing too stable so any help is welcome.

/mirko

On 29 Aug 2009, at 19:10, Bernhard Reiter wrote:

> Am Freitag, den 28.08.2009, 21:09 +0200 schrieb Sebastian  
> Krzyszkowiak:
>> Oh guys... I'm SHR developer (once I tried Om2009), but... regarding
>> stablity, SHR and FSO is mainly the same! We both use FSO and we both
>> are affected by FSO bugs. And most of bugs regarding phone
>> functionality came from FSO on both distros (ok, in early stage SHR
>> ophonekitd wasn't perfect, but now it should be rock solid). That's
>> just matter of used versions. Saying "om2009 is unstable cause i  
>> can't
>> answer call" means that this bug probably is (was or even will be)
>> also in SHR, and vice versa.
>>
>> Om2009 was much stabler than SHR-unstable. That's why I liked SHR  
>> more
>> ;) Now shr-unstable has bugfixes to most of om2009 issues. That's why
>> shr-unstable is now stabler than om2009.
>>
>> And don't get me wrong - i'm SHR developer, and I love SHR, and I
>> "fight" with Om2009 (regarding "i with SHR want to be better than  
>> guys
>> with om2009" ;)), but I really don't like criticizing anything  
>> without
>> knowing anything about mentioned issues and causes! Paroli is great
>> work, I just don't like approach "everything in one big daemon", but
>> my opinion doesn't make Paroli worse... I'll just use SHR without
>> saying bad words on Paroli.
>
> well, so maybe it's because i was using om2009t5 (not unstable),  
> but it
> having being promoted as stable enough for daily use, i was pretty
> disappointed to find it was not. and with shr-u (from around 07/31, i
> think), things worked pretty good. so maybe i really don't know enough
> about internals and organization, but trust me: with om2009t5, i
> couldn't pick up about every other incoming call -- or more -- which
> made it practically useless. with shr-u, i can pick up calls. that's
> about all i wanted to say about om2009 vs. shr.
>
> bernhard
>
>> Well, probably reality isn't as simple as i presented in this post.
>> But i'm sure it's at least close to ;) And I hope you'll understand
>> what I said. This post can be noisy cause i'm excited with listening
>> to really great concert of polish rock group (Perfect) from 1981
>> (great time of rock in Poland) which I just got ;)
>
> :-)
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Re: Evopedia 0.2.2

[Yorick Moko]

just tested the Dutch version of evopedia 0.2.1 this weekend and I love it!

I'll surely also test this new version

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Christian Reitwießner <
christ...@reitwiessner.de> wrote:

> Evopedia version 0.2.2 has been released. The major new feature is an
> interactive map of articles. Images for this map are automatically taken
> from downloaded map tiles of tangoGPS or from Openstreetmap.org if these
> cannot be found (and you are online). If you do not have any images and
> no internet connection, at least the articles are displayed at the right
> location (if the zoom level is high enough).
>
> Evopedia is an offline Wikipedia reader that can be viewed using any
> browser you like (midori is the default). You need to download a
> Wikipedia dump (apart from the software also available there) from
>
> http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia.html
>
> The following dump languages are available at the moment:
> Dutch, French, German, Italian and Spanish. Polish is currently in the
> queue.
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Re: New Freerunner Owner wants to help out!

[Michal Brzozowski]

2009/8/31 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 

> On 8/31/09, Helge Hafting  wrote:
> > * Support for "long" SMS. (Implemented by chaining several
> >short messages.)  Currently, the FR receives a long message
> >as several _unrelated_ short messages - not ideal. And of course
> >long messages cannot be written at all.
>
> Recieving and merging long messages in already done in opimd. Please
> implement opimd-based SHR apps instead of implementing support of long
> messages in actual software ;)
>

.. or help with Litephone, which works with SHR and already uses opimd :-)

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Litephone
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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.3

[Pablo Miño]

I really like the idea but for the next few months (until my child is
born) I will be really busy so I cannot promise to be much responsive
but I want to be part of it. As I am not much experienced with this
kind of things this would be like my first challenge to learn.

If anyone else wants to participate please tell us.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 02:22, Radek Polak wrote:
> Pablo Miño wrote:
>
>> I am actually using GTA01, not GTA02 (I did not fix it yet, I hope I
>> can do it soon). Are there QtMoko images for GTA01 or only GTA02?
>
> The rootfs should be quite the same for GTA01. Probably paths in sysfs
> could be different and you will need GTA01 kernel. I would be happy to
> make GTA01 images, but i dont have the hardware to test it.
>
>> As I have been using Qt Extended for a while now I was really wanting
>> to give it a try to 4.4.3, is it possible to give you an FTP where you
>> can upload the images?
>
> If we manage to create working images for GTA01 i can put them on my
> server.
>
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Re: New Freerunner Owner wants to help out!

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, Helge Hafting  wrote:
> * Support for "long" SMS. (Implemented by chaining several
>short messages.)  Currently, the FR receives a long message
>as several _unrelated_ short messages - not ideal. And of course
>long messages cannot be written at all.

Recieving and merging long messages in already done in opimd. Please
implement opimd-based SHR apps instead of implementing support of long
messages in actual software ;)

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Re: Broken FR for sale

[The Digital Pioneer]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:25 AM, The Digital Pioneer <
digitalpion...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Further elaboration, forgive my oversight: It is the North American
> version, so 850.
>
> I live in Arkansas, US.
>
> As to price, think of it as an eBay auction. Current bid is €50, which is
> about $74.50. Buy it now is $100 and free shipping. :)
>
> Payment is via PayPal only, please.
>

I'm sorry, my bad. I can't figure out which currency I'm selling in. :P Buy
it now is €100 (about $143) and free shipping.
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Re: Broken FR for sale

[The Digital Pioneer]

Further elaboration, forgive my oversight: It is the North American version,
so 850.

I live in Arkansas, US.

As to price, think of it as an eBay auction. Current bid is €50, which is
about $74.50. Buy it now is $100 and free shipping. :)

Payment is via PayPal only, please.
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Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

[D. Fett]

I just made an update to the opkg.org package, we are not at version 0.1.0.
Some of the improvements:
- added option to control whether images will be downloaded
- added option to set up map tile path
- improved drawing if map tile is not available
- added "notes" text field for each geocache
- speed up map display
- show filter indicator
- field-tested the app
- colors on non-standard themes should look right now :-)

Happy geocaching!


D. Fett wrote:
> 
> "Notify the community mailing list."
> (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications) 
> 
> Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux has all important features to make your
> geocaching life easier:
> 
> - download geocaches for offline use with full text, hints & images on
> your freerunner
> - map view with icons for nearby geocaches (uses openstreetmaps and
> tangogps map directory, downloades missing tiles automatically)
> - search the internal database for geocaches by name or type
> - target selection: selected geocache, one of its waypoints or manual
> input
> 
> more at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html
> 

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Re: Bricked FR!! D:

[The Digital Pioneer]

Well, we've determined in IRC that the LCD is cracked and not fixable
without replacing it, and I don't want to put that much more money into it.
:( I'm hoping to sell it for a little something.
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Re: New Freerunner Owner wants to help out!

[Helge Hafting]

Alex Teiche wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I have had my Freerunner for 2-3 Months now(A6 no buzzfix), and I feel 
> like I finally have the time to help out:)  I sent an email a while ago 
> asking about peoples recommendations for developing a new chat app, but 
> I never found the time to get started.
> 
> I am 100% self taught, but I consider myself proficient in Python and 
> most C.  I have done quite a bit of work with embedded 
> electronics(Mostly AVRs and ARM7s, and some FPGA stuff), but definately 
> not enough to be of much help on the GTA02-Core project.
> 
> Can you guys recommend the best way for me to help out?   I would love 
> to learn about and work on the kernel level, but I know next to nothing 
> regarding this.  Can you suggest a way that I could learn short of 
> asking a lot of dumb questions on IRC?:P 

If you want to learn to work on the kernel, there is
the linux-kernel mailing list. Have a look at the archives, to
see what that is like. There are various driver problems on
the FR, for which help would be useful. Such as failure to
set up the screen right when resuming with the screen rotated.
The kernel is all C. Coordinating effort with other Fr kernel
developers would be a good idea.

> I have written some of my own 
> things with Python and Elementary, which projects need the most 
> help/what important applications are we lacking the most?

If you decide to work on apps instead, consider this:
What do you yourself want on the phone? Do you miss functionality in 
some existing app? You can fix that. Something that looks ugly or
is unnecessary cumbersome? Fix that.
Is there an existing linux app you would like
to see on the FR, something currently only available for PCs? Port it.

The point of working on something you will want to use, is that you 
won't get tired of it. Also, you will be a competent tester, so
the implementation will be good. People making features they don't use 
themselves, sometimes make quirky stuff that needs further fixing. 
Still, better than nothing, of course.

The SHR project (and others too I guess) have bug databases.
There you can find bugs to fix, and wishlists of features
to implement.

Some old ones:
* Support for "long" SMS. (Implemented by chaining several
   short messages.)  Currently, the FR receives a long message
   as several _unrelated_ short messages - not ideal. And of course
   long messages cannot be written at all.
* Support for receiving MMS. When you get a MMS, the phone first
   gets a SMS with an WAP URL for the content. (Picture, or perhaps
   a ringtone or something.) The FR can open a GPRS internet connection,
   but it there is currently no software for actually fetching the
   image/ringtone/whatever. That'd be nice to have. Others now and then
   send images to FR owners, not knowing that it isn't implemented.

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Re: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

[Helge Hafting]

Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
[...]
>>> If the phone is not upside down, alert as predefined.
>>> Continue sniffing: if the phone is turned upside down, go silent, stop 
>>> vibra.
>> And reject the call too, I guess?
> 
> Possibly but I wouldn't do that - to the caller it's like I don't want
> to talk with him instead of not available.. (compare it to action when
> the phone's in silent mode)

If I turn the phone upside down while it rings, then surely I meant
to reject the call. I.e. I want the sound to stop, and not by picking
up. Very similiar to reject.

The nice thing about reject is that you don't waste the other
persons time. If you just let the phone ring, perhaps with the
sound off, then they will be waiting hoping that you eventually
pick it up. Well, perhaps we want that when the call is IDed
as a telemarketer . . .

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external keyboard & suspend

[Vinzenz Hersche]

hello all,

i've got a keyboard from pulster for the openmoko. this works well with shr-
unstable, but there's a problem:
i wrote something, then the screen would be black for a half second. so i 
could wrote again and in one moment, it goes to suspend (in the moment i 
write).

now i don't know if this is a kernel- fso- or shr-problem.. but would be nice 
if it's fixable..

greets

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RE: [SHR-U] Almost there....

[Niels Heyvaert]

>> I've noticed the same. Would it make sense, if not already implemented that
>> way, when accept or reject is pressed, the first actions are to stop
>> ringing and vibrating before doing anything else underneath?
>
> Or directly a "silence" button.
>
> I think this is a must for a great user experience.
>

Good point, totally agree. Adding a silence button would be great.
 
But still, the ringing and vibrating should stop as soon as reject/accept (and 
silence) is pressed...
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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 8/31/09, Tom Yates  wrote:
> well, i've switched to SHR, and i may i first say how much it's improved
> since i last tried it - very very nice!  though i am looking forward to a
> testing branch emerging.
>
> the wiki at
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Set_Regional_Codes suggests
> that if the regional information is set correctly in /etc/phone-utils.conf
> (or by using the settings -> phone -> phoneutils settings option, i take
> it) that incoming numbers will be correctly looked up.
>
> firstly, do others believe this is so?
>
> secondly, does that not mean that a call from 01223456789 (in the UK)
> should match a contact listed as +441223456789, when the following
> settings apply?
>
> international_prefix=00
> national_prefix=0
> country_code=44
> area_code=1223
>
> if not, how about
> international_prefix=+
>
> have i just botched a setting, or am i completely misunderstanding this?
>
>
> --
>
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International prefix is *never* +. Most probably (as in whole Europe)
you have to set it as 00.

What is that area_code=1223? Try with area_code blanked.

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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Leonti Bielski]

Good looking app! And quite fast!

Things I noticed so far:
- As I wrote on ML before - there is no line breaking for cell
broadcasting info - if info is long it expands the application window
so the app is unusable after that
- It would be nice to have a possibility to select broadcasting
channels - right now I get info fro all channels and some of it I
don't want to see
- If I go to Contacts->Select some contact->Send SMS. What I see:

To: + button "Select Contact" - I'd like to see To: + Contact name
I've just selected + button "Add more recipients" (but shorter :))

Re: "some gibberish" - What this Re: is supposed to mean? I'm not
replying to no one - I'm just writing a message ;)

In overall I like the application and wish the development to continue
at the same speed as it is now!

Leonti

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:55 AM, c_c wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  Much later than I thought, but here's the latest release of Launcher.
>
>  Features
> * Inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog apps
> * uses opim backends
> * shows cell broadcast info
>
>  Feedback is welcome.
>
>  Enjoy!
>
> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3552019/launcher_0.35_arm.ipk
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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 02:55:33AM -0500, c_c wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>   Much later than I thought, but here's the latest release of Launcher.
> 
>  Features
> * Inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog apps
> * uses opim backends
> * shows cell broadcast info

I'm installing it now, let's see if it's a bit more stable (the last time
I tried it seemingly broke the connection of the framework with my operator
until I restarted the phone).

Rui

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Re: Bricked FR!! D:

[Rask Ingemann Lambertsen]

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:32:59PM -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> I don't see how it can be _broken_ as it was working until it magically
> stopped, and I know I didn't hit it when it stopped... Though I did hit it a
> few times afterwards, but not hard enough to break it. I hope.
> 
> How do I get at that cable?

   It's at the connector CON6001 you can see at the top right here:
https://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/hardware/GTA02/A5/gta02a5_pcba_cs.JPG

https://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo_1973

   To "pop" the PCB out of the back cover, I hold the Neo above a towel with
the screen facing downwards and I use the fingertips of my second, third and
fourth fingers to pull the sides of the case away from the PCB. Optionally
help it a little with a thumb through SIM/SD card hole in the back cover.

   The cable is covered by some sort of flexible shield.

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Re: QtMoko is great! :-)

[Radek Polak]

-= Apertum =- wrote:

> A little ciao here to all ;-)
> 
> I started my Neo usage some month ago with Qtopia. Yesterday i've 
> installed the V8 of QtMoko: i'd like only to say that i like a lot QtMoko!
> Contratulation to all the contributors and maintainers!
> 
> IMHO it's really the best distro for everyday phone (of course there 
> some problems, but the base it's really strong).
> 
> The Qx trick to launch TangoGPS was really a cool idea, congratulation 
> to Radek for his incredible work on this (and not only on this).
> 
> I started to make some contribution to the QtMoko site htp://www.qtmoko.org

It's really nice to hear this :)

Thanks,

Radek


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Re: Broken FR for sale

[George Brooke]

On Monday 31 August 2009 02:57:44 The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> If anyone wants it, I have one broken FR and I've gotta get rid of it. The
> computational aspect is fine, the only part of it that doesn't work is the
> screen, which is cracked. The screen DOES NOT WORK!! It's cracked and you
> can't see anything useful. Just colors and lines. The phone itself works
> fine, including the touchscreen (if you know where to touch without seeing
> anything). You can SSH in and play music. It still works, it just has no
> meaningful display.
>
> It is A5 with no buzzfix.
>
> Comes with 3 batteries, wall charger, stylus pen, USB cable, OM branded
> neoprene pouch, and wired headset. If you're interested, make me an offer.
Were you aware that pulster.de will replace the screen for 89 euros.

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Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....

[David Garabana Barro]

O Luns, 31 de Agosto de 2009, Niels Heyvaert escribiu:

> I've noticed the same. Would it make sense, if not already implemented that
> way, when accept or reject is pressed, the first actions are to stop
> ringing and vibrating before doing anything else underneath?

Or directly a "silence" button.

I think this is a must for a great user experience.

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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/31 Tom Yates :
> secondly, does that not mean that a call from 01223456789 (in the UK)
> should match a contact listed as +441223456789, when the following
> settings apply?
>
> international_prefix=00
> national_prefix=0
> country_code=44
> area_code=1223
>
> if not, how about
> international_prefix=+
>
> have i just botched a setting, or am i completely misunderstanding this?

it works perfectly for me - i didn't put anything except a '0' in the
area code field though

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illume wallpaper

[Petr Vanek]

i am unable to change the wallpaper on illume desktop (shr-u, all
updates) as illume complains: "Enlightment was unable to import the file
due to conversion errors". I noticed this about a week ago, happens
with both jpeg and png as well. Is it a known bug? Or is installing of
anything like the edje-utils required?

Thank you
Petr


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changing illume wallpaper from a script

[Petr Vanek]

is there a way to change the ilume wallpaper automatically from a
script, rather then from illume settings? enlightenment_remote or even
with edje-utils?

thank you
Petr


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Re: Litemoko, new window environment

[Petr Vanek]

>Out of curiosity, did anyone try it? I've used it for the past 2
>weeks, and it works flawlessly. Fast, simple, and the apps run
>fullscreen. Just what I needed, but maybe I'm in minority :-)

i did and it worked ok for me but then i went for vacation so i switched
to shr apps and haven't had time to switch back yet :)

i'ts great to have an alternative to shr native apps. also icewm is
good. actually i still use literki with the top bar :)

would be nice to get all your packages into shr repos...

Petr


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Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[c_c]

Hi,
  Much later than I thought, but here's the latest release of Launcher.

 Features
* Inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog apps
* uses opim backends
* shows cell broadcast info

  Feedback is welcome.

  Enjoy! 

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3552019/launcher_0.35_arm.ipk
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[SHR] Setting regional codes

[Tom Yates]

well, i've switched to SHR, and i may i first say how much it's improved 
since i last tried it - very very nice!  though i am looking forward to a 
testing branch emerging.

the wiki at 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Set_Regional_Codes suggests 
that if the regional information is set correctly in /etc/phone-utils.conf
(or by using the settings -> phone -> phoneutils settings option, i take 
it) that incoming numbers will be correctly looked up.

firstly, do others believe this is so?

secondly, does that not mean that a call from 01223456789 (in the UK) 
should match a contact listed as +441223456789, when the following 
settings apply?

international_prefix=00
national_prefix=0
country_code=44
area_code=1223

if not, how about
international_prefix=+

have i just botched a setting, or am i completely misunderstanding this?


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RE: [SHR-U] Almost there....

[Niels Heyvaert]

> pbondo wrote:
>>
>> 4. The ring tone audio on incoming call is delayed several seconds. I.e.
>> the vibrator starts several seconds before the ring tone. Also the ring
>> tone will only stop several seconds after pressing accept call.
>>
>
> This one has oddly been reversed since 2009-8-12. Now the ring tone stops
> correctly, but the vibrator "rings" too long (on average 1-2 "ring" after I
> accept the call) and the calling party can hear it :-)

I've noticed the same. Would it make sense, if not already implemented that 
way, when accept or reject is pressed, the first actions are to stop ringing 
and vibrating before doing anything else underneath?


> pbondo wrote:
>>
>> 7. Phone log will open in multiple instances. If I receive multiple
>> missed calls, I will have several phonelogs open. If I look in the wrong
>> one, it will only report one missed call. If one instance is open while
>> receiving a new phone call it will not be updated.
>>
>
> I have learned to live with this.

I have had several occasions where the multiple phone log opened up multiple 
instances. In most cases, each instance can be stopped and the FR continuous 
working. However, in some cases the FR totally freaks out and only a reboot can 
help out.
 
I think it is possible to detect the same application is already running (has 
been discussed in the list before). Solving this bug would definitely improve 
stability and user experience.

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Re: Unknown boot options

[David Fokkema]

On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 12:44 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
> David Fokkema  writes:
> >> Qi reads factory partition to make ethernet gadget use fixed
> >> predefined MAC address. If g_ether is statically compiled in there's
> >> no way to set MAC address other than supplying it through the kernel
> >> command line. If g_ether is a module, the recent modprobe will look at
> >> the kernel command line and load the module with corresponding
> >> parameters.
> >> 
> >> I guess Qi should support both modular and compiled in g_ether, hence
> >> it has use the kernel command line.
> >> 
> >> To sum up, i don't know the answer how to hide those messages but at
> >> least now you know why they appear. :)
> >
> > So... either the FR kernels might include g_ether statically
> > compiled or
> 
> Isn't really a solution because most users might want to use another
> usb gadget by rmmoding g_ether. Probably unbinding will work too,
> needs checking, in this case we can compile g_ether statically but
> it'd still be a bad surprise for users who are not used to that.

Ah, I see. So it must be a module, then.

> > someone might fix the 'unknown command line' logger to be silent on
> > 'g_ether' warnings?
> 
> I can't see how that is possible.

That's a shame... I really dislike the warnings as well...

David


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