Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes!! Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes! What distribution you run most of the time? Debian!! -- 活着！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
2010/1/1 qu kai qukaim...@gmail.com Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes! but I use i the mobile as often as i used it before i had the moko. (had no other mobile) So not to often. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes! pretty much the same here. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR -- 活着！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
answering for two people here: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? android, shr --- Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? no Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? shr Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sd card
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:54 AM, blackfalc...@sapo.pt wrote: im using neovento 5.6. im trying to see some pics i have on my sd card. How do i get it to work. some help please. the sd card is vfat. Hi blackfalcon1, I am not at all sure about the vfat, as my card in the freerunner is being used for multibooting and I am not feeling like taking it out to try another. However you may like to know that neovento 5.6 contains an imageviewer. It is part of lxde and its name is gpicview. You can find it by searching for that in google. I tried it using the menus and it is very frustrating as the menus have never been set up to fit in the freerunner. What I did is as follows: First i have set up the LXTerminal in a suitable size and saved it; but that may not be necessary, I can just type in the terminal gpicview /mnt/sdcard/L6.jpg which is the only pic I have available, on the sdcard. It shows it at 100%size and there are many icons in the bottom bar which are probably explained if you read google about it. Hope this helps. I have liked neovento for a long time, but lately have done little with it as there is very little help to be had, especially in English. I will get keen again if anyone else is interested. cheers, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Le 29.12.09 21:30, Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? SHR or hackable:1 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? The most simple Nokia money can buy. I need to be able to answer phones, not: - scream because buzzing makes it impossible for anybody to understand me - taking 4 times as much time for writng an SMS compared to the most cheap Nokia - constantly loosing SMS or having long SMS cut in two - rebooting two or three times a day before receiving calls or being able to make - taking 5 minutes to write an appointement when it takes me 10 seconds to do with my do-it-yourself-paper-agenda I still like it as GPS and GPRS modem, and as mp3-player, though. I'm planning to fix it in my car as that... I still think it's a great experiment on open-source development, and I don't mind having paid the money for it. Furthermore I get very impressed by the quality of simple Nokia or other phones ;) Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] 2009-12-31 released.
Hello everybody, recent Community Update is out and ready! What about SHR? :P what's new? :) P. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Activate GPRS more than once?
Am Donnerstag, den 31.12.2009, 23:33 + schrieb Neil Jerram: 2009/12/28 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: I'm afraid this is a strange combination of a problem in Python, the Python glib bindings, and/or glib itself. When the ppp process gets closed, the supervising process (frameworkd in that case) hangs forever. I have not yet found a way to fix this, and these days I rather put all my energy into finishing fsogsmd. Patches appreciated, of course. When fsogsmd is finished, will it be responsible for the ppp supervision instead of frameworkd? If so, I presume that will fix this problem, because of fsogsmd not using Python and the bindings mentioned above. Is that correct? Yes. In that case, putting energy into fsogsmd sounds good to me; thanks! :) Happy new year! :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. Jens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Jens Seidel jenssei...@users.sf.net wrote: I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). im curious how many people have played around with there mickeyterm settings. my phones audio is just as bad as any other phone ive had. not buzz fix. with audio as low as it may be. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus
Hi Christian, Thanks a million, it works like a charm! How did you come to use default_navit ? I took a look at the source code, but i couldn't find out how to use it. Happy new-year, my has started perfectly ;-) Kind regards, Ed Christian Rüb wrote: Hi Ed, try this: dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.navit_project.navit /org/navit_project/navit/default_navit org.navit_project.navit.navit.set_center string:12.1906 48.999 I had a look at [1] and after several tries this worked (on my PC). I will update qnavitcl soon - New Year's Eve is too close right now ;-) Not sure if this is the correct way though - no reply on navit user ML yet... Cheers, Christian [1] http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit/trunk/navit/navit/binding/dbus/binding_dbus.c?view=markup Am Mittwoch, 30. Dezember 2009 schrieb Ed Kapitein: Hi Christian, Thanks a lot for your explanation! I think i had the same problem you had, i can't set a destination with the current version of navit. (Dbus is enabled) So, i will ask the people from the navit team on how to use dbus with the current version. Thanks again and happy new year everybody. Kind regards, Ed Christian Rüb wrote: Hi Ed, to build it on your PC, you need to have qmake (from Qt) installed. Then simply run #qmake (the name may differ, liket qmake-qt4 or something) This will create your Makefile, then simply run #make and you are done, you will get one binary called qnavitcl - that's it. If you want to build for your Openmoko phone, use my bitbake recipe here (simply copy to your OE tree) and it will build the package for you. If you want a prebuilt binary - get it from here [1] (you'll also get dependencies from there). It is built for SHR-U. Have you enabled dbus in navit.xml? This is essential. Use dbus-send to get a navit instance and then you can control it through the path you get back. Have a look at [2] how I did it in Qt: registerNavitInstance() and setCenter() will be of most interest for you. If you use dbus-send, you also need to print the replies - otherwise you cannot use them ;-) - see man page for futher details BUT - with current version of navit I could not get it to work as the dbus interface seems to have changed - iter does not exist anymore and I have not found a way yet to get an instance and set destination :( Cheers, Christian [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/ [2] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=blob;f=src/mainwindow.cpp;h=a7b076db790971245b2d4c6769f13ba92b194b3e;hb=a3d4e3ea1506321d09a735e69810e3be01ccc860 Hi Christian, i am trying to use navit and dbus, but so far i haven't find out how to do it. I did download your source, but how do i build it? ( real noob here...) Could you explain how to build it from source? I am used to ./configure, make, make install Can you give an example of dbus-send to set a destination in navit? i want, like you, to have a list of waypoints and i want to set waypoint 2 as destination, as soon as i am near waypoint 1. Thanks a lot in advance. Kind regards, Ed Christian Rüb wrote: I wrote a little Qt app to send destination or position to Navit via dbus (needs to be activated in navit.xml first) or center the map. package [1] source [2] screenshot [3] How to use it: create a file with name;lat;lon per line and start the program. If the file is named bookmarks.csv and placed in $HOME or the directory where qnavitctl is started this file is automatically loaded. Why a program that does what Navit already can do? - for me it is a quick fix for #352 in navit - for my 1k+ trip I have to prepare intermdeiate stops as otherwise route calculation would take very long (if it would succeed at all), so I can have my navit window and another window to set next destination easily - it is an example how to talk to navit via dbus and could be used for other apps (e.g. litephone) to get coordinates (e.g. from opimd) and start navigation in navit through a button (e.g. you receive a text containing coordinates, press take me there and the coordinates are send as destination to navit via dbus) - I am still learning Qt :) That's all [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/ [2] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=summary [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/qnavitctl.png ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus
Hi Ed, Happy New Year as well! I found the path by looking at the newer wiki page example at the bottom [1] and the source [2]. Meanwhile I built a newer version of qnavitctl for SHR-U, you can find a package here [3] and source here [4]. I also enabled flickcharm kinetic scrolling [5]. I also noticed, that on my Frerunner navit was started automatically if it was not running yet, when passing a dbus call via qnavitctl... Cheers, Christian [1] http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Dbus [2] http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit/trunk/navit/navit/binding/dbus/binding_dbus.c?view=markup [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/ [4]http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=summary [5] http://labs.qt.nokia.com/blogs/2009/07/19/kinetic-scrolling-on-any-widgets/ Hi Christian, Thanks a million, it works like a charm! How did you come to use default_navit ? I took a look at the source code, but i couldn't find out how to use it. Happy new-year, my has started perfectly ;-) Kind regards, Ed Christian Rüb wrote: Hi Ed, try this: dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.navit_project.navit /org/navit_project/navit/default_navit org.navit_project.navit.navit.set_center string:12.1906 48.999 I had a look at [1] and after several tries this worked (on my PC). I will update qnavitcl soon - New Year's Eve is too close right now ;-) Not sure if this is the correct way though - no reply on navit user ML yet... Cheers, Christian [1] http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit/trunk/navit/navit/binding/dbus/binding_dbus.c?view=markup Am Mittwoch, 30. Dezember 2009 schrieb Ed Kapitein: Hi Christian, Thanks a lot for your explanation! I think i had the same problem you had, i can't set a destination with the current version of navit. (Dbus is enabled) So, i will ask the people from the navit team on how to use dbus with the current version. Thanks again and happy new year everybody. Kind regards, Ed Christian Rüb wrote: Hi Ed, to build it on your PC, you need to have qmake (from Qt) installed. Then simply run #qmake (the name may differ, liket qmake-qt4 or something) This will create your Makefile, then simply run #make and you are done, you will get one binary called qnavitcl - that's it. If you want to build for your Openmoko phone, use my bitbake recipe here (simply copy to your OE tree) and it will build the package for you. If you want a prebuilt binary - get it from here [1] (you'll also get dependencies from there). It is built for SHR-U. Have you enabled dbus in navit.xml? This is essential. Use dbus-send to get a navit instance and then you can control it through the path you get back. Have a look at [2] how I did it in Qt: registerNavitInstance() and setCenter() will be of most interest for you. If you use dbus-send, you also need to print the replies - otherwise you cannot use them ;-) - see man page for futher details BUT - with current version of navit I could not get it to work as the dbus interface seems to have changed - iter does not exist anymore and I have not found a way yet to get an instance and set destination :( Cheers, Christian [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/ [2] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=blob;f=src/mainwindow.cpp;h=a7b076db790971245b2d4c6769f13ba92b194b3e;hb=a3d4e3ea1506321d09a735e69810e3be01ccc860 Hi Christian, i am trying to use navit and dbus, but so far i haven't find out how to do it. I did download your source, but how do i build it? ( real noob here...) Could you explain how to build it from source? I am used to ./configure, make, make install Can you give an example of dbus-send to set a destination in navit? i want, like you, to have a list of waypoints and i want to set waypoint 2 as destination, as soon as i am near waypoint 1. Thanks a lot in advance. Kind regards, Ed Christian Rüb wrote: I wrote a little Qt app to send destination or position to Navit via dbus (needs to be activated in navit.xml first) or center the map. package [1] source [2] screenshot [3] How to use it: create a file with name;lat;lon per line and start the program. If the file is named bookmarks.csv and placed in $HOME or the directory where qnavitctl is started this file is automatically loaded. Why a program that does what Navit already can do? - for me it is a quick fix for #352 in navit - for my 1k+ trip I have to prepare intermdeiate stops as otherwise route calculation would take very long (if it would succeed at all), so I can have my navit window and another window to set next destination easily - it is an example how to talk to navit via dbus and could be used for other apps (e.g. litephone) to get coordinates (e.g. from opimd) and start navigation in navit
[debian] openmoko-panel-plugin fix for 500mA charging
For the brave band of Debian users... openmoko-panel-plugin has a bug which prevents the button to force 500mA charging from working. I've described the bug, and the fix for it, in detail here: http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=298group_id=207atid=867. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian, others?] Partial workaround for GPRS connection dropping
I've used GPRS a lot in the last week, and noticed that sometimes the connection would drop for no apparent reason - in the senses that (1) internet access stops working, and (2) if you do ifconfig at a terminal, there isn't any ppp interface listed. From the frameworkd log, one cause of this was not getting any response to a series of LCP Echo requests - controlled by the lcp-echo-interval and lcp-echo-failure options in /etc/ppp/options. I reasoned that there is no good reason for the GSM network to fail, and that I don't want my GPRS connection to drop if the GSM network is temporarily unavailable, so I commented out these options - which has the effect of pppd not sending LCP Echo requests to check if the network is still good. This seems to have helped. I now sometimes get into a different problem scenario - where the ppp interface is still there, and has an address, and the routing table looks good, but for some reason data just isn't getting through. (e.g. ping 8.8.8.8 gets no response). But this happens less frequently than I was seeing connection dropping before, so I think that suppressing the LCP Echo requests is a net benefit. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Linux dyn-ticks on S3C24xx support?
Thanks for the info. Hopefully the recent frequency scaling patch[1] will help. I'm also excited about the FSCE patches[2], hopefully that will get upstream soon. 1. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3920523 2. http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/message/20091001.203525.e1d1afd4.en.html -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] auxlaunch enhancement to use .desktop files
Hi Al, list,
Attached are patches to allow a line in the .auxlaunchrc file to
reference an app.desktop file, so that auxlaunch can get the
information that it needs from that file. I find this useful, but I'm
curious what others may think, so please let me know. Al, if you'd
like to incorporate this in the official auxlaunch, please feel free.
Regards,
Neil
From 1d30d6ee0486b8e37329682c333a45366f1cdf37 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:24:12 +
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] Prepare place to add code for processing a desktop reference
---
auxlaunch | 17 -
1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/auxlaunch b/auxlaunch
index 80ac74b..01cda73 100755
--- a/auxlaunch
+++ b/auxlaunch
@@ -439,14 +439,21 @@ class ModelManager:
elif field[0][0].upper() == '-': # Window title filter record
self.winDiscard.append(field[0][1:])
else: # Item record
+ if field[0][0].upper() == '+': # .desktop ref
+ deskname = field[0][1:]
+ else:
+ label = field[0]
+ command = field[1]
+ iconname = field[2]
+
image = gtk.Image()
-if field[2].rstrip() == '':
+if iconname.rstrip() == '':
image.set_from_stock('gtk-execute', gtk.ICON_SIZE_DIALOG)
-elif field[2][:4] == 'gtk-':
- image.set_from_stock(field[2], gtk.ICON_SIZE_DIALOG)
+elif iconname[:4] == 'gtk-':
+ image.set_from_stock(iconname, gtk.ICON_SIZE_DIALOG)
else:
- image.set_from_file(field[2])
-app = AppItem(image,field[0],field[1])
+ image.set_from_file(iconname)
+app = AppItem(image,label,command)
curApps.append(app)
# Flush last holding value
if not (curGroup == INITGROUP and len(curApps) == 0):
--
1.6.5.7
From 331aa180f3e4cd8c38d1d839b187a253f06dfa1c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 23:30:26 +
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Implement .desktop file references
The idea of this is that many applications already ship with a .desktop
file, which contains the application's preferred name and icon, and the
command to use to launch it. This patch makes auxlaunch interpret
+application as a reference to /usr/share/applications/application.desktop,
which means that it reads the .desktop file and extracts the name, icon and
command from that file.
But the Debian menu system and -dms option already covers that! Yes, but
unfortunately the -dms option produces so many entries, in so many categories,
that I find it quite difficult to navigate the categories and select the
program that I want. So now I'm preferring not to use -dms, and instead to
define groups that make sense to me for the programs that I want, using these
desktop references.
Finally, a caveat: the icon part doesn't work yet.
---
auxlaunch | 17 -
1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
diff --git a/auxlaunch b/auxlaunch
index 01cda73..b576f17 100755
--- a/auxlaunch
+++ b/auxlaunch
@@ -440,7 +440,22 @@ class ModelManager:
self.winDiscard.append(field[0][1:])
else: # Item record
if field[0][0].upper() == '+': # .desktop ref
- deskname = field[0][1:]
+ deskname = field[0][1:].rstrip()
+ deskfile = open('/usr/share/applications/' + deskname + '.desktop')
+ label = None
+ command = None
+ iconname = None
+ for dline in deskfile:
+ field = dline.split('=')
+ if field[0] == 'Name':
+ label = field[1].rstrip()
+ elif field[0] == 'Exec':
+ command = field[1].rstrip()
+ elif field[0] == 'Icon':
+ iconname = field[1].rstrip()
+ deskfile.close()
+ if (label is None) or (command is None): continue
+ if (iconname is None): iconname = 'gtk-redo'
else:
label = field[0]
command = field[1]
--
1.6.5.7
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[debian, FSO?] GPRS modem noise in incoming phone call?
I answered a call while using GPRS, and was shocked to hear (what I presume was) the GPRS modem noise in the phone call audio! I'm not sure if I've had an incoming call before while using GPRS, so it's possible that this is a reproducible configuration problem. Is there a basic setting somewhere that could account for this? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ringtone volume and latency
In the survey thread, a couple of responses mentioned missing calls because of ringtone problems - which I take to be either volume too low, or too much latency, or both. Here are some thoughts on that. 1) In case this isn't already well known... FSO actually does nothing at all with the volume setting that you can set in SHR settings, or Paroli, or in general via the preferences interface. The only relevant code is: oeventsd/fso_actions.py:self.audio_action = AudioAction( self.sound_path, self.loop, self.length ) if self.volume != 0 else None In other words, all non-zero volume values are equivalent. 2) I tried to measure startup latency by using `time', for various ways of playing a 9.3s Ogg clip and an equivalent .wav file: = debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time mplayer kayleigh.ogg A: 9.0 (08.9) of 9.3 (09.2) 40.1% real0m12.242s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time play kayleigh.ogg Duration: 00:00:09.29 Title: Kayleigh real0m10.680s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time play kayleigh.ogg Duration: 00:00:09.29 Title: Kayleigh real0m10.015s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time play kayleigh.wav Duration: 00:00:09.29 real0m9.652s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time play kayleigh.wav Duration: 00:00:09.29 real0m9.951s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time gst-launch filesrc location=/usr/share/sounds/kayleigh.ogg ! oggdemux ! vorbisdec ! audioconvert ! alsasink Execution ended after 9384127000 ns. real0m11.881s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time aplay kayleigh.wav Playing WAVE 'kayleigh.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo real0m9.709s = There's nothing conclusive here, because I didn't repeat the tests enough times yet; but it looks like there's an additional latency of at least 0.5-1s associated with playing an .ogg instead of a .wav, and rather more than that with gst-launch. This and the volume issue suggest to me that it would be better for FSO only to handle plain audio data, and to play it (i.e. when an incoming call or message comes) using the most lowlevel method (such as aplay). An external settings application could handle conversion from the user's sound file to .wav, and as part of that could allow the user to adjust the volume and preview the ringtone. Comments? Is there a reason why the complexity (and latency) of handling multiple sound formats should be _inside_ FSO? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ringtone volume and latency
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 01:24 +, Neil Jerram wrote: In the survey thread, a couple of responses mentioned missing calls because of ringtone problems - which I take to be either volume too low, or too much latency, or both. Here are some thoughts on that. 1) In case this isn't already well known... FSO actually does nothing at all with the volume setting that you can set in SHR settings, or Paroli, or in general via the preferences interface. The only relevant code is: oeventsd/fso_actions.py:self.audio_action = AudioAction( self.sound_path, self.loop, self.length ) if self.volume != 0 else None In other words, all non-zero volume values are equivalent. 2) I tried to measure startup latency by using `time', for various ways of playing a 9.3s Ogg clip and an equivalent .wav file: = debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time mplayer kayleigh.ogg A: 9.0 (08.9) of 9.3 (09.2) 40.1% real 0m12.242s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time play kayleigh.ogg Duration: 00:00:09.29 Title: Kayleigh real 0m10.680s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time play kayleigh.ogg Duration: 00:00:09.29 Title: Kayleigh real 0m10.015s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time play kayleigh.wav Duration: 00:00:09.29 real 0m9.652s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time play kayleigh.wav Duration: 00:00:09.29 real 0m9.951s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time gst-launch filesrc location=/usr/share/sounds/kayleigh.ogg ! oggdemux ! vorbisdec ! audioconvert ! alsasink Execution ended after 9384127000 ns. real 0m11.881s debian-gta02:/usr/share/sounds# time aplay kayleigh.wav Playing WAVE 'kayleigh.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo real 0m9.709s = There's nothing conclusive here, because I didn't repeat the tests enough times yet; but it looks like there's an additional latency of at least 0.5-1s associated with playing an .ogg instead of a .wav, and rather more than that with gst-launch. This and the volume issue suggest to me that it would be better for FSO only to handle plain audio data, and to play it (i.e. when an incoming call or message comes) using the most lowlevel method (such as aplay). An external settings application could handle conversion from the user's sound file to .wav, and as part of that could allow the user to adjust the volume and preview the ringtone. Comments? Is there a reason why the complexity (and latency) of handling multiple sound formats should be _inside_ FSO? Regards, Neil Just a couple of thoughts - missing calls is rarely to do with volume and not hearing the ring (I have changed the standard tones though), and more to do with crashes. One of the most annoying is using tangogps full screen (or any other app full screen) and a call comes in the top screen can (not always) lose focus and you cant do anything except pull the battery (doesnt recognise finger/stylus). Another is hearing the other end, but they cant hear you - also happens randomly. There is a lot going on when a call comes in so its not only audio player latency but enabling the audio path, setting up alsa, handling the call itself, starting the caller application, ... And in amongst that it has to play the audio as well. Currently this isnt too bad for me when I set ring only (no vibe) and use the debugfs hack. shr-u most versions, current shr-t. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?
2009/11/30 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: 2009/11/12 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be Hello list, I am writing a follow-up/update to my original post just over 2 months later. What has changed since my original post? Another update. What has changed since my last update? I finally chose and ordered a laptop (a Dell Vostro V13) so I can use the same PC at home and work. Of course, I am already regretting my choice, but at least I chose something. I always seem to regret my computer purchases. I have started moving most of the crap I am packratting to my new apartment. I have to wait until Sat, 2010-01-09 to move my furniture because that is when I planned to have my sister and friend help me. I am afraid I am going to be even lonelier living alone instead of with my parents, but at least I will have more privacy. I am also afraid I am going to starve because I dislike having to stop what I am doing to buy food, prepare meals, clean up after meals, etc. Food preparation does not interest me because the results seem so extremely ephemeral. I am an intellectual and emotional animal (person) who wants to understand himself by self-study and communication without having to (what seems like) always worry about eating because my mind is embodied in the body of an animal, which I do not understand. I really wish I did not have to eat because it would make my life so much easier. I do not know how to describe my mental state properly, but I always seem to be seeking an answer which cannot be found. I know, this sounds like Neo in The Matrix. :P I wonder if my mental processes are really so unusual because they usually seem strange to me. I am still lonely because I have no female companion, but at least I have my male friends, even if I rarely meet them in person. I know I have to try new things (go to unfamiliar events and/or places) to meet girls, but I have been isolating myself more again because that is how I am. I do not know what is wrong with me, but I end up making myself so lonely because I am so inclined to isolate myself. My parents and teachers have noticed my lack of (face-to-face/in person) peer interaction and have been concerned about it since elementary/primary school. I do not understand how non-autistic people can seem to function so much better than me and easily have more close friendships than me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
