Re: wiki down?
Please let me know if there are any other oddities, wiki is flooded with spam, i have been asking for admin access privately for some time but no luck. anyone has an access and can clean the mess or can provide access so i can help? cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
2010-12...@08:49 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller The main idea to provide a display is that not everyone wants to disassemble the freerunner core module (PCB + Display) to easily swap both. eh! I'm one of them ;P btw, on the order page I see: Si4721 (FM transceiver) ...UH?! I can transmit my broadcast? :D or do you plan to use gta04 like a C.B. radio? ^_^ I think it's a typo 73-51! :) -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Am 22.12.2010 um 09:50 schrieb Alfa21: 2010-12...@08:49 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller The main idea to provide a display is that not everyone wants to disassemble the freerunner core module (PCB + Display) to easily swap both. eh! I'm one of them ;P btw, on the order page I see: Si4721 (FM transceiver) ...UH?! I can transmit my broadcast? :D or do you plan to use gta04 like a C.B. radio? ^_^ I think it's a typo No typo: http://www.silabs.com/products/audiovideo/fmtransceivers/Pages/default.aspx It may not be according to the rules to connect an antenna and operate it. So we can replace it by a Si4705 (pin compatible receiver only). http://www.silabs.com/products/audiovideo/fmreceivers/Pages/Si470405.aspx The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your FM car radio. I.e. have your radio display a caller ID or navigation hints. I think there are already some driver fragments in Linux/Staging. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Hello! At first of all I would like to thank you for your efforts. It's good to see that the GTA04 project is progressing well. On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:58:06 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your FM car radio. I.e. have your radio display a caller ID or navigation hints. I think this is a very good idea. I personally would be interested in the transceiver one, if the price difference is not significant. Can you give a rough estimation of the price difference between the Si4721 and Si4705? Thank you. Regards, Balint SZENTE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Am 22.12.2010 um 12:11 schrieb SZENTE Balint: Hello! At first of all I would like to thank you for your efforts. It's good to see that the GTA04 project is progressing well. On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:58:06 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your FM car radio. I.e. have your radio display a caller ID or navigation hints. I think this is a very good idea. I personally would be interested in the transceiver one, if the price difference is not significant. Can you give a rough estimation of the price difference between the Si4721 and Si4705? Our plans include only the Si4721 since the price difference is neglectable (and depends on number of units, i.e. 50% Si4705 + 50% Si4721 may be more expensive than 100% Si4721). The only reason is that in some regions it may not be allowed to operate a (low power) FM transmitter. So the Si4705 is just a fallback. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Il giorno mar, 21/12/2010 alle 16.33 +0100, Dr.H.NikolausS ha scritto: Dear all, we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free and Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New Year: We have finally tested, understood and patched the bugs of the first GTA04 sample board (a.k.a. GTA04A2) and have successfully started U-Boot. We can access the important peripherals like display, touch screen, and MMC card. This is great, however can be planned for a quite near future to support also a different case (the Openmoko one is too thick compared to the ones used by the actual mobile hardware!) with maybe another LCD (capacitive?) and, above all a camera, the most requested hardware feature when the GTA02 was designed! :P Bye! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Hi Marco, Am 22.12.2010 um 16:18 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Il giorno mar, 21/12/2010 alle 16.33 +0100, Dr.H.NikolausS ha scritto: Dear all, we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free and Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New Year: We have finally tested, understood and patched the bugs of the first GTA04 sample board (a.k.a. GTA04A2) and have successfully started U-Boot. We can access the important peripherals like display, touch screen, and MMC card. This is great, however can be planned for a quite near future to support also a different case (the Openmoko one is too thick compared to the ones used by the actual mobile hardware!) with maybe another LCD (capacitive?) and, above all a camera, the most requested hardware feature when the GTA02 was designed! :P The GTA04 design has a connector for an optional camera module that even fits into the existing case (although you have to drill a hole). But we have not yet tested it. You will also be able to connect a different LCD through expansion connectors that we are currently adding to the GTA04A3 design. Unfortunately, this makes the design even thicker. Miniaturization is in contradiction with expansion/flexibility. The touch screen controller is a TSC2007 which can only handle resistive touch, but you can connect a capacitive controller as well. Regarding case design it is open to you to come up with new designs and production methods (e.g. rep-rap, makerbot, ...). We are happy to support you with knowledge. And if we finally see a project that receives applause by the community we want to help to make it a repeatable procedure so that everyone can make or buy one. A general note on thickness - the main factor is thickness of the battery and the LCD module. And, of course, the display bezel is (unneccesarily) thick. So there are ways for a thinner case (with same functionality). Happy (plastics) hacking, Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) -, Early Adpoter Program
So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. This looks like the start of the aera of new Openmoko devices. This is indeed the first time after Neo1973 and FreeRunner that there is equally exciting news. +1 Great! __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
-[ Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:58:06AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ] The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your FM car radio. I.e. have your radio display a caller ID or navigation hints. The n900 from Nokia does just this. Apparently they didn't care if it's allowed or not :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:29:37 +0100 Cedric Cellier ri...@happyleptic.org (CC) wrote: -[ Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:58:06AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ] The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your FM car radio. I.e. have your radio display a caller ID or navigation hints. The n900 from Nokia does just this. Apparently they didn't care if it's allowed or not :) Apparently they do care very much, observe the packaging describing in what countries the FM can be used. Besides it, there is not much on the box from the back side :) This feature is cool, especially RDS, although the current n900 included code has been changed to comply with specs and RDS scrolling text doesn't work atm. Plus, you need to listed to your station in order to see the text, so no arbitrary station and your RDS notify of SMS etc... Bluetooth HF with display and radio connection do supplement the FM pretty well though - music, calls, but of course it's missing the RDS part What would be really cool is RDS reception of weather/traffic announcements + applying it to your navi or at least POI, ie. FoxtrotGPS to warn you about road conditions... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
2010-12...@19:29 Cedric Cellier -[ Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:58:06AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ] The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your FM car radio. I.e. have your radio display a caller ID or navigation hints. The n900 from Nokia does just this. Apparently they didn't care if it's allowed or not :) maybe we can just put a disclaimer and/or disable that feature in software by default. (a patch or option in a file could switch that feature in operative mode) btw I'm interested in usb host/guest switch mode... will gta04 support that like the current gta02 does? usb2 or 1.1? as a final note I think it could be interesting to put a compatible connector or an optional adapter/cable to couple the gta04 with the tablet/keyboard options made by always innovating ie: replacing their mid device with the gta04 (or at least keep open the possibility to connect any external bigger display and standard keyboard) -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your FM car radio Or RDS Emergency messages to be able to tell the person in the car in front of you to drive faster or get out of the way through his audio system;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it wrote: -[ Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:58:06AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller (always innovating) (or at least keep open the possibility to connect any external bigger display and standard keyboard) That reminds me... The BeagleBoard can provide up to 1280*1024 or 1280*720 if I recall correctly. Do we have options to channel that power out of the box? Nikolaus already stated that it should be possible to switch LCD's; does that make it possible to redirect that information to a connector that can be hooked up to such a bigger display? While writing I realize I'm asking for something that's not worth the effort ;-) Does anyone know a little box that does export high resolution to a monitor and could get its processing power over the network, read from GTA04? Think thin client, but then thinner :-) Regards, Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
2010-12...@14:21 W. B. Kranendonk That reminds me... The BeagleBoard can provide up to 1280*1024 or 1280*720 if I recall correctly. Do we have options to channel that power out of the box? Nikolaus already stated that it should be possible to switch LCD's; does that make it possible to redirect that information to a connector that can be hooked up to such a bigger display? While writing I realize I'm asking for something that's not worth the effort ;-) why not?? If all we need is a piece of copper (w/o logic inside) cable... today we have many tv-set with hdmi, dvi, vga ports all around us! we could go in any hotel and use that tv-screen and feel like at home with our mobile computing! no notebook/netbook needed, only our phone, a keyboard and a piece of cable! :) (for the mouse we have an LCD touchpad hehe) -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it wrote: 2010-12...@14:21 W. B. Kranendonk That reminds me... The BeagleBoard can provide up to 1280*1024 or 1280*720 if I recall correctly. Do we have options to channel that power out of the box? Nikolaus why not?? If all we need is a piece of copper (w/o logic inside) cable... today we have many tv-set with hdmi, dvi, vga ports all around us! we could go in any hotel and use that tv-screen and feel like at home with our mobile computing! I am aware of the screens all around us, the point seems to me getting the wire out of the box. Could it be redirected to the USB-paths, so that the USB-connector became a DVI-disguised-as-USB? It doesn't have the amount of wires needed, so the available wires had to be multiplexed. In the USB-to-DVI/HDMI/WE(whatever)-converter the signals have to be demuxt again. Would the cameraconnector (the extra connection to the back of the phone) allow for this kind of signalling? (for the mouse we have an LCD touchpad hehe) I hope to develop some programming skills, and make an allmightymouse out of our phone: (2D/3D) acceleration instead of a ball/led and mouse buttons onscreen. Later on with button profiles per application. Don't hold your breath though..;-) Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
