Re: New(ish) keyboard input method

[Brad Pitcher]

Lally Singh wrote:
> This could really be nice:
>
> http://gizmodo.com/5047798/blindingly-fast-touchscreen-text-entry-system-gets-a-push-by-creator-of-t9
>
>   
That is really cool.  I signed up at [1] to find out when it will be 
available for the Freerunner.  The form has a text field for make and 
model, so I entered "FIC Neo Freerunner".  The form also has a drop-down 
for operating system that includes a choice for Linux which gives me hope.

[1] http://www.swypeinc.com/beta.html

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Re: GPRS working / gsm0710mux (works now for me)

[Brad Pitcher]

Benedikt Schindler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> some corrections on my own mail.
> first off all it works now for me.
> second, it's not an update that causes the problem it is not to 
> update... :)
>
> the whole howto on freeyourphone.de  is written for the 
> Om2007.2/ASU-buildhost version.
>
> 2008/8/12 xaos x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   
>>> I actually finally got it working by using the article from freeyourphone 
>>> that uses the multiplexing package.
>>>
>>> http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=dda5c6cbf5850182c786488123f056ce
>>>
>>> It will receive calls and make calls while connected to GPRS using this 
>>> setup.
>>>
>>> -Tom
>>>   
>>   
>> 
> it is not for an Om2008.8. the only reason why it worked for some people was, 
> that they used the buildhost feeds again.
> (What is absolutly the wrong thing to do ! - But i did it too in the first 
> time)
> So for them it all works fine.
>
> Now i have the correct feeds, and the howto doesn't work anymore.
> That is because of a different version of the gsm0710muxd application.
>
> The howto works fine also with Om2008.8.
> You just have to install these package before you use the howto from 
> freeyourphone:
>
> opkg -force-depends install 
> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+gitr1+3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0_armv4t.ipk
>
> Attention: just use this package, and no other packages from this host! 
> This host is normaly not compatible with the Om2008.8 !!!
>
> have a nice time with gprs until the offical gprs is comming up soon.
>
> cu all
> Beni
>
>
> P.S.:
> the mokoservice.py doesn't work for me.
> i use "gprson && gprsqison" to get into it.
> sometimes it doesn't work on the first time, and i have to try it a 
> litle bit later again.
>
>
> Benedikt Schindler schrieb:
>   
>> ok. i found out, that a upgrade from gsm0710mux is the problem.
>> they now have a different service name for the "muxer".
>> it isn't "org.pyneo.muxer" anymore it's now "org.mobile.mux".
>>
>> you could edit "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia" so it uses the new term,
>> (and also the "/usr/bin/gprson" script)
>> or add an additional service file to /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/
>>
>> --
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat 
>> /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.pyneo.muxer.service
>> [D-BUS Service]
>> Name=org.pyneo.muxer
>> #Name=org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX
>> Exec=/usr/bin/gsm0710muxd
>> User=root
>>
>> ---
>>
>> But now i have the problem that i get this errors in my log:
>>
>> Aug 16 22:26:45 om-gta02 user.notice root: Waiting for pid: 1545
>> Aug 16 22:26:47 om-gta02 user.notice root: ficgta01hardware plugin
>> Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  opening serial 
>> device  "/dev/ttySAC0"  at  115200
>> Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  Device: 
>> "/dev/ttySAC0" is a tty device: True
>> Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  NONBLOCK 
>> successfully reset
>> Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  Opened  "/dev/ttySAC0"
>> Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  querying multiplexer 
>> plugin "ficgta01multiplex"
>> Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : "^Z"
>> Aug 16 22:26:58 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed 
>> out ***
>> Aug 16 22:26:58 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : "^Z"
>> [last two lines repeat until a exit of the programm]
>>
>>
>> I think the "T" should be an "AT". so i try some different "gsm0710mux"  
>> today.
>> maybe i found something that works.
>>
>> cu later
>>
>> [btw:  answers from could have some delay, because i am on vacation and 
>> i don't have often internet without my gprs working on the freerunner.]
>>
>>   
>> 
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Thanks for the tips!  It's really great to have gprs working perfectly 
on 2008.8.  I have no problems running mokoservices.py either.
cheers,
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Re: Replacing the Openmoko Touchscreen

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John Koenig wrote:
> Otherwise, it is possible to remove the screen and it required nothing 
> more than the guitar pick that I used to open the case.  The only tricky 
> part was the connection to the main board.  There is a small black 
> locking mechanism that flips up and allows for the LCD panel to be 
> disconnected from the main board.
>   

Also, one must be very careful when removing the ribbon which connects 
the LCD panel.  When I removed my LCD, that ribbon got a tear in it.  
Good luck with the replacement John.
cheers,
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Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme

[Brad Pitcher]

I really enjoy the look, but unfortunately I had to switch back because it
messed up the one of the POI dialogs in tangoGPS.  I wonder if I didn't
apply it completely because it doesn't seem to apply to applications.

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Lars Formella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >
> > werd-up! nice! :) note - you will need to keep up with illume.edj changes
> > - i
> > have added more theme elements since you did the tango theme :)
> >
>
> thanks for the hint. of course i will update the theme and add usefull
> changes from the default one. maybe we can install the tango theme and
> icons
> as the default one when its ready and tested. hopefully my freerunner
> arrives with the next charge on the 15th august, so i can test and play
> around live and coloured :)
>
>
> --
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> http://n2.nabble.com/ASU-Illume-Tango-Theme-tp583627p585738.html
> Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme

[Brad Pitcher]

Lars Formella wrote:
> hi,
>
> because i personally dislike the build in asu/illume theme - in german we
> call it "augenkrebs" ;) - i created a new fresh one myself with some tango
> icons. it is still in the early grade (i have no freerunner to test and
> played around just with qemu), but maybe some one like it. stay tuned for
> updates and more tango replacements comming...
>
> you can find it here:
> http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/
>   
I love the theme.  It looks great on the device and I think it makes the 
FreeRunner look more user friendly/accessible.  Thanks a lot!
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Re: Ekiga for Openmoko, petition,

[Brad Pitcher]

andres wrote:
> I wrote an email to the Ekiga people asking them to provide
> a Openmoko compiled binary for it.
>   
I agree, Ekiga would be nice.  I wrote to the gizmoproject people to see 
if they would recompile for openmoko.  They already have an armel 
version for nokia tablets, so they are close to having what we need for 
openmoko.
I actually tried out their gizmo5 midlet today and, although it's 
largely unusable, I actually made a phone call and sent an sms.  Way to 
go Jalimo guys!

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Re: pdf in openmoko?

[Brad Pitcher]

There is a package called epdfviewer in openembedded which I used to use 
on my Neo1973.  I'm too lazy to build it and it's dependancies.  Why 
isn't it in the repository?

Arne Zachlod wrote:
> hey guys!
>
> does anybody knows how i can open pdf documents in openmoko? very cool 
> would be if i could open them with gpe-filebrowser, but only open is 
> enought, too.
>
> ciao, Arne
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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

[Brad Pitcher]

It barely fits without taking the FR apart, but you can still see the 
edge s if you look.  Also, dust tends to gather around the edges just a 
little bit.

AVee wrote:
> On Thursday 17 July 2008 22:49, Brad Pitcher wrote:
>   
>> Yes, I'm using the full body shield and I really like it.  It was
>> somewhat difficult to apply but worth it.  You don't need to take apart
>> the FR and it comes with some spray that makes it so you can make little
>> adjustments to the position of the shield directly after application.
>> It is a little more reflective than the LCD was without it, but quite
>> usable.
>> 
>
> So it the screen protector is a tight fit? I think I'd prefer one which is 
> slightly bigger so the edges will disappear under the body. That should make 
> it even more invisible...
>
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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

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Yes, I'm using the full body shield and I really like it.  It was 
somewhat difficult to apply but worth it.  You don't need to take apart 
the FR and it comes with some spray that makes it so you can make little 
adjustments to the position of the shield directly after application.  
It is a little more reflective than the LCD was without it, but quite 
usable.
-Brad

Søren Kristiansen wrote:
> Hello
>
> As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the 
> freerunner? I'm still waiting for my freerunner but I'd like some sort 
> of protection for it once it arrives.
>
> How "invisible" is it? I've watched a lot of videos on youtube and on 
> zagg's homepage and it looks like the shield adds a lot of reflection 
> to the device.
>
> Is it easy to install on the freerunner? Do you have to open the 
> freerunner to add, eg. the screen protection? How does the body cover 
> fit on the "round edges" on the freerunner?
>
> If anyone didn't know, it's available on zagg's homepage here: 
> http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
>
> Thanks :-)
>
> -- 
> Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
>
> Søren H. Kristiansen
>
> Stud. polyt., Software Engineering, University of Aalborg, Denmark
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Re: Fast questions (email, GPRS, WiFi...)

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What do you do at step 5 where the instructions only apply to ASU?
-Brad

Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> wow... someone (at best original author) should simply create a project
> within openmoko.org for those openmokoscripts and see if it could be
> improved even further or simply polished enough so it is easily
> installable from the repository with 1 line instead of 8 step
> directions. But viva to DocTomoe for crafting and to papa-piet for
> sharing the finding ;-)
>
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, papa-piet wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi Ian,
>> check out that one:
>> http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295#p2956
>> 
>
>
>   
>> Peter K.
>> aka papa-piet
>> find me at
>> http://freeyourphone.de
>> 
>
>
>   
>> ian douglas schrieb:
>> 
>>> Steve / Brenda,
>>>   
>
>   
>>> Are there any solid instructions yet on getting GPRS data working?
>>>   
>
>   
>>> -id
>>>   
>
>
>   
>>> steve wrote:
>>>   
  Brenda,
 
>
>   
get the instructions for using WIFI on freerunner posted to the wiki.
 
>
>   
Michael assist.
 
>
>   
 Steve
 
>
>   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ian douglas
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:32 PM
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion
 Subject: Re: Fast questions (email, GPRS, WiFi...)
 
>
>   
 Diego Fernández Durán wrote:
 
>   - Is there any UI to conect using WiFi? and with GPRS?
> - Is network-manager been ported?
>   - The NM backend?
>   - Anybody is doing an UI for this?
>   
>
>   
 I havne't seen any wifi UI applicaiton yet. I SSH'd into my Freerunner,
 edited /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf to alter the essid and key,
 typed "ifup eth0", then unplugged the USB cable, opened a terminal, ran
 "ifconfig usb0 down", opened the browser and navigated just fine.
 
>
>   
 After rebooting, it seems that usb0 is auto-activated, and while the Wifi
 device is supposedly 'on', it doesn't appear in an "ifconfig" dump ... I 
 ran
 "ifconfig down usb0" and "ifup eth0" and it failed to connect to the wifi
 using my recently-edited wpa_supplicant.conf file.
 
>
>   
 I'm sure somebody is working on an app to automate this, but they'll have 
 to
 rearrange the priority of routing traffic in the app so a user can specify
 "start up the wifi and use that connect as the default route".
 
>
>   
 -id
 
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Re: US Shipping

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John Reese wrote:
> Brad Pitcher wrote:
>   
>> Does Thunderbird have an add-on to display threads?  I thought I had 
>> used one in the past, but now I can't find it.
>> 
>
> View -> Sort by -> Threaded/Unthreaded
>
>   
Oh yeah.  That's beautiful.  Thanks

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Re: US Shipping

[Brad Pitcher]

Alexander Frøyseth wrote:

  
  
Tilman Baumann skrev:
  
Matthew Lane wrote:
  

  Has anyone had their phone shipped within the US from the openmoko 
store, and if so what was your order number?  Just curious :)



Could you please not use reply for starting a new thread?
Your mailer is smarter than you:
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



  
  
I agree
If you are starting a new tread, start one, dont continue
(you are messing up my thunderbird view)
  

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Re: GSM Carrier

[Brad Pitcher]

That is exactly right.  I thought I read about some work around for the 
port restriction, but I didn't dare to try it so I stuck with the add-on.

Matt Luzum wrote:
> Geoff Ruscoe wrote:
>   
>> So with T-Mobile they have a web and email option for like $5 / month 
>> (which says unlimited), but then they also have an internet plan which 
>> is like $40 / month.  Does anybody have these plans and will I be able 
>> to use the FreeRunner as a web device with the $5 plan?
>> 
>
> I don't have any first hand experience with T-Mobile data plans, but 
> this site might help you:
>
> http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile_Data
>
> It looks like the $5.99/month plan really is unlimited, but there are 
> port restrictions.  The $19.99/month plan has no restrictions.  These 
> are both add-ons for people with a voice plan.  The more expensive plan 
> is a stand alone data plan.
>
> At least that's how I read it.  Anyone who knows better feel free to 
> correct or expand.
>
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Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

[Brad Pitcher]

Thanks. For the tips my order number is *1492 :)*

ian douglas wrote:
> The 850 model is 850/1800/1900 and works fine on TMobile (I've been
> using a freerunner for a few months now during testing)
>
>
> Brad Pitcher wrote:
>   
>> Harry wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> Sorry for delay long time!!!
>>> So far, only GSM850 Freerunner is available in stock, Debug board and 
>>> spare also!!!
>>>
>>> http://www.openmoko.com/store.html
>>>
>>> Freerunner is running
>>>
>>> Thanks and BR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
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>> I really want to get one so badly but I'm afraid of getting the wrong 
>> GSM frequency.  I live in Oregon, USA and use T-Mobile.  Can anyone 
>> advise?  I looked at the website suggested in the store and it says 
>> T-Mobile uses GSM 1900.  Does that mean I can't use any FreeRunner?
>> Thanks,
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Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

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Harry wrote:
> Dear All,
> Sorry for delay long time!!!
> So far, only GSM850 Freerunner is available in stock, Debug board and 
> spare also!!!
>
> http://www.openmoko.com/store.html
>
> Freerunner is running
>
> Thanks and BR
>
>
>
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I really want to get one so badly but I'm afraid of getting the wrong 
GSM frequency.  I live in Oregon, USA and use T-Mobile.  Can anyone 
advise?  I looked at the website suggested in the store and it says 
T-Mobile uses GSM 1900.  Does that mean I can't use any FreeRunner?
Thanks,
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Re: Software Status Update

[Brad Pitcher]

I would have to guess that he is referring to the video that requires 
flash: freerunner1.4.swf

It looks REALLY good.

Stroller wrote:

Found what?!??!

Why I try following Marco's link here I just get a big directory 
listing, and it's not at all obvious what video he is referring to.


Stroller.



On 15 May 2008, at 18:58, steve wrote:


HA, you found it.
...



Do you mean something like this [1] (flash player required)?
Since it's so cool! :P

Bye!

[1] http://tinyurl.com/65zn6e





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Re: Merry Christmas!

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Merry Gravmas!

Fabian Olesen wrote:

Merry Christmas guys :-)

On 12/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:


Indeed.  Merry Christmas and Happy Gnu Year!


flexd wrote:
> On behalf of myself, and myself (due to intake of large amounts of
> beer i now see two of myself in the mirror!) i wish you a merry
merry
> merry CHristmas!
>download.php
>
> -Kristoffer \o
>
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Re: Qemu-Neo doesn't seem to work Ubuntu 7.10

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The Ubuntu equivalent to setenv is export. Maybe you can just change
them?

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:23 +0200, Jens Fursund wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> There seem to be a problem with openmoko/flash.sh in new Ubuntu 7.10. I
> think it has something to do with the setenv command. I have a feeling
> it is not even there.
> 
> Does anybody know how to fix this?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Jens
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Re: Google Phone is coming...

[Brad Pitcher]

I doubt google's hardware will be as open as FIC's so the Neo platform
should still be more popular among the techie crowd.

On 8/7/07, Jae Stutzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hmm...
>
> If this phone has 3G before the standard Neo platform does, I will be
> kinda disappointed. But if Google's large sums of cash is what is needed to
> make OpenMoko Inc. successful and thus the OpenMoko platform, then it is a
> bitter pill worth swallowing, imho. An interesting development none the
> less.
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Re: Instant Messaging + Address Book: presence field?

[Brad Pitcher]

Absolutely.  It is a must for IM to be integrated into the address book, 
it just makes sense to put the two together.  And if the lead developers 
don't want to do it, we can fork it. :)


Adam Nemeth wrote:

Hi all,

I was thinking if presence (online, offline, away, etc) could be into
the address book - as a part of libmokopim. I'd think of Jabber
(and/or SIP probably), since they're multi-resource. What would this
mean?

I need an information quickly from my workmates:
- Open the AddressBook
- Navigate to "Workmates" group
- See that John is online (with status: at work), while Jack is busy
- Normally I'd call Jack, but it seems that John is near computer, so
he could answer my question, I call him

I'm bored, want to get somewhere
- Open the addressbook, navigate to "Friends"
- See that Juli is "Free to chat" (with status: bored)
- I ask her (through IM or by call) if she wants to go out somewhere with me
- She agrees
- Marry 2 years after ;-)

I'm at a party which tends to be good
- Open addressbook, navigate to "Friends"
- Broadcast a message to everyone who's online "Get here fast!"
- The party will be even better in half an hour with them :)

For platform independency, sparing money:
- I'm on WiFi, and I have to call Jack
- He's online @ google talk
- I call him through Jingle (Jabber-VoIP) instead of GSM- FREE!

(Same goes to SMS)

For application developers - in case it would be XMPP (so: extensible:)
- I'm bored
- Let's play a game
- Not alone :/
- Let's see who's online!
- Juli is online
- Ask her if we could play chess / civilization / anything (jabber
fits better for turn based games, but it could be used for realtime
too)
- Play through XMPP: She's on the desktop, I'm on my phone

How to use multi-resource feature:
- I'm at home, I'm online @ google talk both with my Neo and my
desktop computer simultaneously
- With privacy lists feature ("semi-invisibility"), Juli could see if
I'm online @ the phone (remember she became my gf at point 2?:), but
John only sees when I'm online @ the desktop (I don't like to work all
the time)
- I get my messages to my computer (easier to type)
- They see each other through bluetooth
- I have to run, just get up my Neo, and hurry out to the street
- Computer senses that Neo is out of bt range-> resource priority goes
down, computer goes away
- I still get my messages for the Neo (only from Juli of course)

Send-a-picture:
- I'm at somewhere, which is nice
- Take a photo
- Set it as my avatar with one click
- or Send to somebody through IM
- Endless possiblities with WiFi (faster than Bluetooth!)

I'm not a Moko expert (although I hope I could get my hands on one
soon - a research center asked for one), but I know XMPP well (SIP...
not as well :/ ), and there are plenty of libraries out of there for
such, even for embedded devices. I think that integrated presence
would be a killer feature for Neo / OpenMoko.

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Re: Free Linux distro targets smartphones

[Brad Pitcher]

I attempted to, however despite what is said in the article, openedhand 
has not made images for the neo available for download.


Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote:

"OpenedHand is offering pre-built Poky 3.0 kernels, modules, and root
filesystem images for a several popular development targets,
including:
Nokia N800 web tablet (experimental)
OpenMoko GTA01 (FIC-GTA01) (experimental)
Sharp Zaurus c7x0 (C700, C750, C760, C860, SL-7500)
Sharp Zaurus Akita (SL-C1000)
spitz (SL-C3000, SL-C3100, SL-C3200)
QEMU ARM
QEMU x86"

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6869195570.html

Hmm, anyone installed this?

cheers

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Re: Unofficial Forum Details...

[Brad Pitcher]

How would you feel about installing OpenID support?
http://openid.phpbb.cc/

Kyle Bassett wrote:

Hello Again,

The forum is now in a usable condition.  Please register and start 
posting!
If there are any concerns with the layout, please contact me and I 
will try to accommodate...


-Kyle




On 7/24/07, *Kyle Bassett* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I have set up the Official Unofficial OpenMoko forum on one of my
websites.  I will continue to modify the forums as need be.  All
who would like to utilize the forums are welcome!

Temporary Link, awaiting DNS resolution:
http://www.makeopensource.com/phpBB3/

Official Link:
http://forums.makeopensource.com

Please make any recommendations to the layout of the forum to this
thread.  Anyone that would like to help me administer or moderate
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Re: Camera on GTA02

[Brad Pitcher]

Giles Jones wrote:

Also, lack of camera is good for business, many business phones lack camera.
  
Oh, I'm sure we could come up with good business uses for cameras.  In 
an open phone, cameras do more than just take pictures.  The key, as you 
stated, is to have a fairly good quality camera.


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Re: Skeleton Application for developers?

[Brad Pitcher]

There are some pretty good example applications in subversion.  You 
could try looking at those:

http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/examples/
-Brad

Brandon Kruse wrote:
In the devs opinion, what is the best openmoko application to look at 
to start building your own app?


Should there be a skeleton application that is highly commented and 
explains the lower level api and gtk bindings, etc?


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Re: Geek holsters

[Brad Pitcher]

What about an armband holster for jogging?  I saw this generic one that I
liked:
http://www.shop.com/Tune_Belt_AB3_MP3_Player_Armband_-12294293-18446807-p!.shtml
but then I realized that it would be a pain in the butt without access to
the screen... unless someone figured out how to make the music control
buttons on some headphones work... ;)

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On 7/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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> On Friday 20 July 2007 11:46, Ewan Oughton wrote:
> > Has there been any research into any geek holsters that would fit
> > the moko?
>
> Check out this one:
> http://tabletblog.com/2007/05/urban-tool-gadget-hip-holster-review.html
>
> For me it is a little too geeky though ;-)
>
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if you want to go that route, the maxpedition versipacks are same idea,
different style...
http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=4

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Re: Hooks in Base Code

[Brad Pitcher]

sure we couldn't do it directly like that.  But couldn't we fake it by have
the phone answer the call immediately after it detects it, playing the sound
file over the radio (instead of sending microphone input), and act like it's
still ringing?

On 7/18/07, Daniel Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I don't know how much of the at signaling is available at the data
terminal.  What is the signaling for sending caller ID to a cellular phone?
For example, on POTS, the digits are signaled with a Bell 103 modem between
the first and second ring.

Someone said something about having the ringback tone be a sound file that
is configurable according to caller.  I don't know if that is possible from
the phone.  The ring back tone is generated by switching equipment, not the
terminal.

--Dan

On 7/18/07, Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  [This may have been better to post to the development list but as
> people are talking about it here I'll start here]
>
> Hi,
>A number of people have been talking about the cool things that they
> would like their 'phone to do but after spending some time looking at the
> information available so far I don't see anything that suggests the current
> codebase will allow people the freedom that they need.  If I take a simple
> example of an incoming call them some of the suggestions that we have seen
> so far to handle it include different ring tones for different people or
> groups of people, auto-handling of the call by sending it to voicemail or
> letting it through, different responses depending on the time of day, *etc.
> *The point that I'm trying to make is that there are a multitude of
> things that you *could* do but each person will have a limited number of
> things that they want the 'phone to *actually* do.  As such, building
> out all of these options in to a single piece of code will not only be very
> hard to manage and maintain but will severely limit the ability of people to
> scratch their itches and develop code to make the 'phone do what they want
> it to.
>
>If the monolithic approach is out then some sort of modular approach
> is required.  The most obvious example out there today is Firefox, which
> comes in a relatively simple base configuration but provides any number of
> hooks to allow people to write their own extensions on top of the base code
> and as such to alter the functionality of the product very extensively.  If
> we want this openmoko to be as free as possible then it also needs to be as
> easy as possible for people to extend, and this is the most likely way of
> doing it.
>
>I know that there are a lot of potential problems that need to be
> addressed when building this out but if there is a vision from the start as
> to how this would work then it would go a long way to making the final
> product the 'phone that we are all dreaming of, regardless of the fact that
> those dreams are often divergent from others if not totally exclusive.  So
> my questions are there plans to include these hooks, and if not can it be
> considered?
>
>Or is there another way to do this other than hooks?
>
> Cheers,
> Jim.
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Re: ringtones?

[Brad Pitcher]

there are a few ringtones in subversion:
http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/artwork/sounds/

On 7/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Anybody know what the status is on being able to set custom ringtones or
if the
phone already has a bunch of built in ringtones?  I know its just for
development purposes right now but I'm bored at work and this question
just
popped into my head.

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Re: projects of interest? - mebot

[Brad Pitcher]

Actually, I was thinking of offloading that work to a mashup like
interface.. Say google maps or what not and just displaying the result.



But google maps doesn't reorder destinations to create the optimal path does
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Re: Shipping update

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Thanks for the suggestions, I may just have it rerouted to Portland.  That
seems like the best option to me.  Fortunately I have roommates who can sign
for the package for me.

On 7/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Ted Lemon wrote:

> On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Probably would be best to ask this of the shipping company. You might
also
>> be
>> able to change the delivery address to your hotel at the conference.
>
> They are generally reluctant to do this, both because it makes it easy
to
> steal a package enroute, and also because it's likely to result in
> misdelivery.   If you can change the routing at the source, it's much
more
> likely to work.

True.

Which reminds me of another possibility: When the package arrives, you can
have it redelivered to a different location. They may charge for this, but
it's an option. You'll be in Portland for almost a week, right?

I suppose you may need someone to accept the package at the original
destination, to avoid the theft issue that Ted raises.

Again, a call to the carrier to find out your options and related prices
might
be the best bet. Describe the situation, and ask them how they can help
you
solve it. If you get someone unhelpful, hang up and try again with a
different
customer support representative. You need someone who is willing to think
of a
solution. Such people do exist (they usually end up working on Open Source
projects :-)

Good luck,
Michael

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Re: Shipping update

[Brad Pitcher]

I'm in a similar situation, I'm leaving for OSCON on Sunday.  I will attend
a BoF at Ubuntu Live Sunday night and another one at OSCON Thursday night.
I desperately want to bring my phone with me.  I paid for 3-day shipping but
now it looks like it may not get her quite on time.  I wonder, if I reply to
the request tracker email asking to change my shipping to overnight, will
they do that?
-Brad

On 7/17/07, Ted Lemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sean, probably a dumb question, but I'm leaving for IETF on Saturday,
so I'm really hoping that my two-day delivery will get the phone here
by Friday.   I don't desperately need it before IETF - I just don't
want it sitting on my front stoop for a week (well, for that part of
a week before it's stolen!).

Is there any chance that we'll get some kind of notification/tracking
information when the phones ship?

Sorry to hassle you - I know things must be really busy.   Congrats
on getting the first batch through customs!


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Re: projects of interest? - mebot

[Brad Pitcher]

Yes!  For me a GTD app is the killer app.  Especially when you hook GPS into
it.  Maybe the phone could even look at the list of places you need to go to
accomplish your tasks for the day and plan an optimal route.  Thanks Emre!
I'll help with testing and maybe write a plugin for it.
-Brad

On 7/18/07, Emre Turkay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Just created a wiki entry:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mebot

emre

On 7/18/07, Mickael Faivre-Macon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > If there is anybody interested I would love to discuss.
> > I'm sure willing to test it ...
>
>
>
> Me too
> Did you put it in the Wiki ?
>
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gtd
> > > [2] http://mebot.sourceforge.net
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Re: projects of interest?

[Brad Pitcher]

I was thinking something like this would be perfect to integrate with 
twittervision. (www.twittervision.com)  It's got a great API already, or 
you can just make a post to twitter with a string like "L:" 
included.   can even be gps coordinates.  So, if one could 
just specify that they were travelling (eg "L:travelling="), 
the server could look at the last 10 or so posts with this format and 
display a trail behind your avatar on the map.  I told the creator of 
the site about this idea and I'm just waiting for feedback.


Casey Harkins wrote:

Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:

On 7/17/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

We need a good use for GPS, I want something like Tomtom but this


Possible uses: can be combined with Google Maps or something like that
to give other people an idea of the "travel route" you have followed.


I plan on implementing something along these lines (without the POI 
portion). My goal is to have a daemon running which records routes 
constantly and periodically reports them to a server over GPRS 
(probably gpg'ed first). When the route is reported to the server, the 
server can respond with a command to adjust the reporting period.


The primary use is just to keep a record of everywhere I've gone with 
the phone (reported once a day). Second, if my phone happened to get 
lost or stolen, I flip a switch on the server and the phone would 
report its position hourly or even more frequently. Even if the SIM 
card was swapped out, as long as GPRS is still accessible, the phone 
should still report its position. Unless the person in possession of 
my lost phone finds this mailing list post, it should help me get my 
phone back. :-)


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Re: shipping?

[Brad Pitcher]

On 7/17/07, Daniel Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I was hoping for more feedback in the process of ordering and receiving a
phone.




Me too.  I really like how lumenlab described everything that was happening
with the shipment of their new evo 1.2 projectors in their recent blog
entries: http://blog.lumenlab.com/


 Not that I'm in a rush, or anything


Has anyone gotten the 'payment received' email?

--Dan

On 7/16/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 16 Jul 2007, at 23:00, Daniel Robinson wrote:
>
> > I ordered a neo1973 and got an email back, but my bank account has
> > not been hit for the money and I haven't heard anything else.
> >
> > Anyone on this list gotten a neo1973 yet?
>
> Today's apparently the day when they arrive from China. So they won't
> be shipping for a couple of days I guess.
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Re: What apps will be included with GTA02 phone?

[Brad Pitcher]

They have stated that their goal is to be almost entirely market driven.
So, they will probably include everybody's favorite/most used applications
-Brad

On 7/12/07, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Pretty much depends on what the community writes I'd guess.

Ortwin

On 7/10/07, Jonathan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Given what has been said about the GTA02 phone being "targeted at end
> users", it will (I assume) various apps that end users expect on their
> phones.
>
> Have FIC and the OpenMoko team had any thoughts about what applications
> will be shipped pre-installed on GTA02 phones?
> Will it simply be the same core apps ( i.e. the minimum needed to make
> it a
> usable phone) that come with GTA01 phones?
>
> My apologies if this is the wrong list or if it has been discussed
> before
> (I read the archives of various OpenMoko lists to see if it has been
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Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

[Brad Pitcher]

But what are you guys planning on doing with the old board at that 
point?  Throw it away?  I would suggest keeping the old phone intact and 
just selling it when you get the new phone.  You should get a pretty 
good discount that way.  And that way there are more neos out there 
circulating and that's better for everyone.

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Re: Come see OpenMoko at Ubuntu Live

[Brad Pitcher]

Yes, daniel got the store read and you can now get theme here:
http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=128333
I'm bringing an extra one just in case someone forgets theirs. ;)

On 7/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



P.s. Does anyone know if the t-shirt store was set up? If so, perhaps we
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Re: t-shirts in the US

[Brad Pitcher]

Yes!  Using ThinkGeek we might even reel more developers in.

Jae Stutzman wrote:

I second ThinkGeek.com

On 7/8/07, *Rich Goodwin* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


ThinkGeek.com would be an excellent alternative - possibly a tad
cheaper.

Rich

On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 17:28 -0700, Brad Pitcher wrote:
> direct dying sounds good to me.  I vote for cafepress.  How is this
> coming Daniel?
>
> On 7/3/07, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> I'm not familiar with spreadshirt's stuff, but I know that
> some of the shirts on cafepress are done with a direct dye
> process(dye goes directly into the fabric)... which means no
> big plasticy sticky thing on the shirt(I really hate that
> stuff).  If spreadshirts can give the same thing, I don't
> really have a preference, but I'm all for cafepress
otherwise
> (you will have to select the direct dye (don't remember
their
> name, but it's obvious) option when you create the shirt
> itself)-- and check that the stock shirt you select has that
> option
>
> On 7/3/07, Daniel Willmann < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:46:23 -0700
> "Brad Pitcher" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> > What's the status on the availability of openmoko
> t-shirts in the
> > US?  I checked on cafepress and
spreadshirt.com <http://spreadshirt.com> and
> I couldn't find
> > anything.  I'd really like one of those shirts to
> wear at Ubuntu
> > Live/OSCON. Thanks,
> > Brad
>
> right, I said I'd  open up a shop in the US,
too. I'll
> create an
> account tomorrow and start copying the designs
from my
> spreadshirt.net <http://spreadshirt.net>
> account.
>
> Is there any particular reason to take one or the
> other
> (cafepress/spreadshirt)?
>
> Regards,
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Re: t-shirts in the US

[Brad Pitcher]

direct dying sounds good to me.  I vote for cafepress.  How is this coming
Daniel?

On 7/3/07, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm not familiar with spreadshirt's stuff, but I know that some of the
shirts on cafepress are done with a direct dye process(dye goes directly
into the fabric)... which means no big plasticy sticky thing on the shirt(I
really hate that stuff).  If spreadshirts can give the same thing, I don't
really have a preference, but I'm all for cafepress otherwise (you will have
to select the direct dye (don't remember their name, but it's obvious)
option when you create the shirt itself)-- and check that the stock shirtyou 
select has that option

On 7/3/07, Daniel Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:46:23 -0700
> "Brad Pitcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What's the status on the availability of openmoko t-shirts in the
> > US?  I checked on cafepress and spreadshirt.com and I couldn't find
> > anything.  I'd really like one of those shirts to wear at Ubuntu
> > Live/OSCON. Thanks,
> > Brad
>
> right, I said I'd  open up a shop in the US, too. I'll create an
> account tomorrow and start copying the designs from my spreadshirt.net
> account.
>
> Is there any particular reason to take one or the other
> (cafepress/spreadshirt)?
>
> Regards,
> Daniel Willmann
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Re: Color choice, etc.

[Brad Pitcher]

There is a comment box on the pages where you input your shipping address.
I suggest you specify your choice there, although I suppose it's too late
for you to exercise that option.

On 7/8/07, Emre Turkay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I ordered one but later I realized that I didn't choose a color. And I
see two different headsets, it didn't ask me about it either.

Well, I guess the question is obvious. Is it just random, hehe?

emre

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Re: Store info - shipping costs, credit card support

[Brad Pitcher]

$14 for 3-day select shipping to Oregon. :)

On 7/8/07, Nick Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I just bought one. The only shipping option listed was "SAVER" at a
wince-inducing $85.13 USD to ship to New Zealand.

As for credit cards: Visa and American Express only.

-Nick Johnson

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Re: Come see OpenMoko at Ubuntu Live

[Brad Pitcher]

I'm also interested.  If you could arrange it at a time that doesn't
conflict with OSCON sessions it would be much appreciated.

On 7/3/07, Ryan Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 7/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OpenMoko was offered a "custom" Sponsorship which includes a booth but
> not
> a speaking opportunity. However, we are free to organize a BoF. I
> presume
> there is interest in such?
>
> If so, I'll go ahead and schedule one.


I'll go ahead and throw in a "Yes", but mine isn't worth much since I
haven't actually made solid plans to be there yet! Thanks for putting the
effort forth to network with Ubuntu users -- I'm definitely interested in
building packages for Ubuntu and OpenMoko that enable seamless sync and
integration features!

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t-shirts in the US

[Brad Pitcher]

What's the status on the availability of openmoko t-shirts in the US?  I
checked on cafepress and spreadshirt.com and I couldn't find anything.  I'd
really like one of those shirts to wear at Ubuntu Live/OSCON.
Thanks,
Brad
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Re: Come see OpenMoko at Ubuntu Live

[Brad Pitcher]

You're going to be in the exhibit hall, right?  So we can come for free?
-Brad

On 7/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Tim Newsom wrote:

>
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:24, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>>  Dear Community,
>>
>>  Michael Shiloh has volunteered to setup a booth at Ubuntu Live
>>  (http://www.ubuntulive.com) July 22 to 24 in Portland, Oregon. He'll
be
>>  demoing and talking about both the platform and the Neo. If you're in
>>  town, please stop by!
>>
>>  Thanks so much for the help Michael!
>>
>>  -Sean
>>
>>
> I am in portland so I will definitely stop by and take a look.  I will
try
> very hard not to drool all over the phone too. Lol.
>
> --Tim

Excellent! I look forward to meeting you.

Michael

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Re: OpenMoko get together at OSCON

[Brad Pitcher]

On 7/3/07, Dirk Bergstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If you're going to be at the O'reilly Open Source Conference in
Portland, show up for the OpenMoko BoF session on Thursday night.  Jon
Philips has said he will bring his phone and hacker toolbox, so you can
  lay hands on the real thing.

http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2007/view/e_sess/14810

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I'll be there!  Thanks for setting this up.  If my neo ships in time, I'll
bring that as well.
-Brad
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openmoko in a digg story

[Brad Pitcher]

Hey everyone!  Saw this page on digg today about 5 cool linux phones.  The
Neo1973 is one of them and there is a great video to go along with it.
Check it out!
http://digg.com/linux_unix/5_Cool_Linux_Powered_Phones
(and digg all the comments that say good things about openmoko ;)
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Re: Flash Player 9 on OpenMoko?

[Brad Pitcher]

On 3/22/07, Edwin Lock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

When you say "we don't want..." you really mean YOU don't want...



Correct.  Thank you for the clarification.

I'm all for using open source software (obviously since I am on the

maillist and going to get the Neo).  But I'm not going to automatically
preclude software just because it isn't open.  Opera is a great
browser.  You are not being forced to use it.  But if others want to,
don't intentionally disallow it.



As previously stated the licensing costs are too high anyway so I'm pretty
sure it's not an option.

Using only open software is a GOAL, not a REQUIREMENT.  Please learn the

difference between the two.



My apologies for the misunderstanding.
-Brad
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Re: Flash Player 9 on OpenMoko?

[Brad Pitcher]

The reason we can't do that is because that's proprietary flash built into
opera-mini.  We don't want either of those in OpenMoko.
-Brad

On 3/22/07, Edwin Lock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have flash on my nokia 770, that works fine and its an ARM9 if I'm
correct? So why not use the implementation that nokia has? It works just
fine for me..
Greetings,
Edwin Lock

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Re: Flash Player 9 on OpenMoko?

[Brad Pitcher]

Or swfdec would be nice.  The latest version supports YouTube videos. :)
Regardless which free flash player is used, it will need to be made to work
with minimo.  Minimo still doesn't have an interface for installing
extensions as of now, but it seems that extensions can be made for minimo
and installed manually, as described here:
http://www.litfuel.net/plush/?postid=135

On 3/21/07, Ole Tange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 3/19/07, Frank de Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So if you want Flash use Gnash.

At FOSDEM I had a chat with Rob Savoye. He is one of the lead Gnash
developers. He was very interested in porting Gnash to the Neo1973. If
you want to help him join the Gnash project.

/Ole

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RE: Some ideas

[Brad Pitcher]

I think a good way to solve this problem is with auto-suggest while you
type.  So, after you type "sil", the application "suggests" the last half of
your name by displaying it in a different color or highlighted.  Then you
just tap the word/name with your finger and it finishes it for you.  This is
how it works on the Nokia 770 and I find it very convenient.
-Brad

On 3/1/07, Wolfgang Silbermayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


== Search by surename and forename ==
I have all people in my telepone book stored with the second name and
the first name. Because nearly all of my relatives have the same
surename as I do, I have a fairly long list when I type in "sil" which
is the first letters of my surname. Then I usually have to either skip
through this list or write "silbermayr" completely in because on my
motorola phone I can't just type in a space and afterwards the first
letter of the forename. I would love the phone book application to
simply jump to the entry "Silbermayr Wolfgang" as soon as I write "sil
wo" into the search field.


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Re: Voice Activated Controls

[Brad Pitcher]

But who's going to pay for the infrastructure required to support these
cloud applications?

On 2/26/07, Dean Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 The answer is no, the neo processing power is too limited.



You need to start thinking bigger guys.



Why does the processing need to occur on the handset itself? What about
building a 'cloud' application where the application and processing occurs
with only a sip or gsm connection to the handset?

Check out http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Tellme for an idea on what I
am describing.





Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1-212-203-4357 Ph
+1-917-207-3420 Mb
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brad Pitcher
*Sent:* Monday, 26 February 2007 7:07 PM
*To:* community@lists.openmoko.org
*Subject:* Re: Voice Activated Controls



Perhaps it could be used as a form of input for typing, instead of the
virtual keyboard.  I would love to use it for sending texts or emails.
-Brad

On 2/26/07, *Knight Walker* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:08:18PM -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote:
> Does anyone know of any software for natural language processing that
> could be ported to OM/Neo?  I really like some of the software that is
> available for the PocketPC (MS Voice Commander and Fonix).  They both
> run and work well on a resource limited platform as well, so it *can* be
> done, but both are closed.
>
> Here are a couple of OS engines:
> http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/pocketsphinx/
> http://julius.sourceforge.jp/en_index.php?q=en/index.html
> http://xvoice.sourceforge.net/
>
> So I guess, is there already any voice control software planned/worked
> on for use in OpenMoko?  If not, I'll help out, but can we get a project

> up and running?

Depending on what you're looking for, it may be easier than that. My last
three phones (All Nokia) have a speech command recognition which seems
more like limited wave-form matching. It requires that I record the
command ("Call Brian", "Start music player", "Begin recording") then when
I want to use that command, I hold down a button on the phone (Or on the
headset) until the phone makes a certain tone, and speak the command.
The phone then "searches" for a few seconds, finds the match, and
activates the function.  It's VERY useful for when I'm driving and want
to call someone. I just hold down a button on my headset and give it the
command, all while keeping my eyes on the road.

My only major complaint is the (very) limited number of commands you can
record.  I find I have to think really hard about what I want a voice
command for because making a new one requires that I remove an existing
one.

It wouldn't give you continuous speech-to-text capability, but I'm not
sure I want that.  People think I'm crazy enough as it is.

-KW

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Re: Voice Activated Controls

[Brad Pitcher]

Perhaps it could be used as a form of input for typing, instead of the
virtual keyboard.  I would love to use it for sending texts or emails.
-Brad

On 2/26/07, Knight Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:08:18PM -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote:
> Does anyone know of any software for natural language processing that
> could be ported to OM/Neo?  I really like some of the software that is
> available for the PocketPC (MS Voice Commander and Fonix).  They both
> run and work well on a resource limited platform as well, so it *can* be
> done, but both are closed.
>
> Here are a couple of OS engines:
> http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/pocketsphinx/
> http://julius.sourceforge.jp/en_index.php?q=en/index.html
> http://xvoice.sourceforge.net/
>
> So I guess, is there already any voice control software planned/worked
> on for use in OpenMoko?  If not, I'll help out, but can we get a project

> up and running?

Depending on what you're looking for, it may be easier than that. My last
three phones (All Nokia) have a speech command recognition which seems
more like limited wave-form matching. It requires that I record the
command ("Call Brian", "Start music player", "Begin recording") then when
I want to use that command, I hold down a button on the phone (Or on the
headset) until the phone makes a certain tone, and speak the command.
The phone then "searches" for a few seconds, finds the match, and
activates the function.  It's VERY useful for when I'm driving and want
to call someone. I just hold down a button on my headset and give it the
command, all while keeping my eyes on the road.

My only major complaint is the (very) limited number of commands you can
record.  I find I have to think really hard about what I want a voice
command for because making a new one requires that I remove an existing
one.

It wouldn't give you continuous speech-to-text capability, but I'm not
sure I want that.  People think I'm crazy enough as it is.

-KW

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