simultaneous multiple audio sources and destinations
All, I'm aware of at least one phone(i) where the audio capability on the device is prioritized to voice calls and the audio runs as a singleton process such that you cannot have the option to have simultaneous voice call and media player sound routed to headset or switch between them. Is this the case with Freerunner? Does anyone know about other devices and whether they are similarly restricted or not - Symbian, Blackberry, Android, etc.? I am aware of PJSIP and it's local bridge capability as a potential example of what I'd like to do - sort of a peer to peer conference application with local media server rather than network based. Thoughts or comments welcomed. Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: after Qi no USB in Nor questions - solved
On Feb 16, 2009, at 3:33 PM, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: > C R McClenaghan wrote: >> Seems my problem may be VMWare Fusion. My host for Openmoko work is >> Ubuntu (currently 8.10) as a vm on my MacBook Pro running Leopard >> 10.5.6. Returning to the pure Leopard environment I'm able to use >> OpenMoko Flasher and it dfu-util to access the USB port. I'm guessing >> either something in Ubuntu 8.10 and/or VMWare is causing the DFU >> capability to be corrupted and therefore not work, although as late >> as >> December it seemed to work just fine. >> >> So, I've upgrade both my distributions and bootloader and seem to >> have >> no problem at this point other than the slowness of flashing. > > I was going to say it would most likely be something in the path of > communication. I've seen almost an identical error and changing the > usb > cable fixed it :) > > Sarton > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community No matter which cable I used, the same problem at Nor boot, but all the cables worked fine for USB Networking once distribution was booted. Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: after Qi no USB in Nor questions - solved
On Feb 16, 2009, at 9:56 AM, C R McClenaghan wrote: > All, > > I have a Neo Freerunner GTA02V5 to which I apparently flashed Qi > some weeks ago. I'm not sure which version of FSO is flashed to > memory, but I think it is milestone 3. In installing Qi, I think I > may have been trying to recover from modifications made to uboot for > Debian and probably ran the devirginator process to flash uboot > before I went ahead and flashed Qi. I no longer recall why I did > either. > > And now, I'm a little confused as to how to proceed as I can no > longer flash with dfu-util. When I boot to Nor and plug in the USB > cable, I get a series of errors on my host and cannot use dfu-util. > The errors are these: > > [ 87.928631] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > address 3 > [ 88.540254] usb 1-1: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/ > start: -71 > [ 88.540437] usb 1-1: chopping to 0 config(s) > [ 88.695904] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 > [ 88.698093] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 > [ 88.700419] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 > [ 88.734000] usb 1-1: no configuration chosen from 0 choices > [ 88.736092] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 > [ 89.084376] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > address 4 > [ 89.692859] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type > = 0x2, length = 0 > [ 89.692909] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 > [ 89.912237] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > address 5 > [ 90.420975] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type > = 0x2, length = 0 > [ 90.421000] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 > [ 90.641355] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > address 6 > [ 90.676829] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type > = 0x2, length = 0 > [ 90.676850] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 > [ 90.900242] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > address 7 > [ 90.939088] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type > = 0x2, length = 0 > [ 90.939111] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 > [ 90.940610] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 > > This occurs whether the Freerunner is attached to the host first or > not. > > Note: when booted into installed image, USB networking is fine and > the above errors do not occur. Is this a host side problem or Neo > Freerunner problem? > > I notice in the Qi documentation that there is no dfu-util support. > Would that effect dfu-util in Nor? > > When I do attempt to boot into Nand, I end up with a Nor boot menu > that is the same as when I boot into Nor - apparently either why the > AUX/Power button are selected I boot to Nor. Is that correct > behavior with Qi? > > BTW - my Nor boot menu seems slightly different than what I see on > the wiki - rather than a Reset option in the fifth position I have > Reboot. > > Are there any log or configuration files I should post to help > diagnosis? > > I would like to be able to upgrade the release in memory or for that > matter Qi - which I think I'm now blocked from doing. > > Is there an alternative to the "devirginator" process to restore the > Freerunner to "factory" state? > > Thanks, > > Chris > All, Seems my problem may be VMWare Fusion. My host for Openmoko work is Ubuntu (currently 8.10) as a vm on my MacBook Pro running Leopard 10.5.6. Returning to the pure Leopard environment I'm able to use OpenMoko Flasher and it dfu-util to access the USB port. I'm guessing either something in Ubuntu 8.10 and/or VMWare is causing the DFU capability to be corrupted and therefore not work, although as late as December it seemed to work just fine. So, I've upgrade both my distributions and bootloader and seem to have no problem at this point other than the slowness of flashing. Thanks to all who read this far, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
after Qi no USB in Nor questions
All, I have a Neo Freerunner GTA02V5 to which I apparently flashed Qi some weeks ago. I'm not sure which version of FSO is flashed to memory, but I think it is milestone 3. In installing Qi, I think I may have been trying to recover from modifications made to uboot for Debian and probably ran the devirginator process to flash uboot before I went ahead and flashed Qi. I no longer recall why I did either. And now, I'm a little confused as to how to proceed as I can no longer flash with dfu-util. When I boot to Nor and plug in the USB cable, I get a series of errors on my host and cannot use dfu-util. The errors are these: [ 87.928631] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 [ 88.540254] usb 1-1: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/ start: -71 [ 88.540437] usb 1-1: chopping to 0 config(s) [ 88.695904] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 88.698093] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 88.700419] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 88.734000] usb 1-1: no configuration chosen from 0 choices [ 88.736092] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 [ 89.084376] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 [ 89.692859] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type = 0x2, length = 0 [ 89.692909] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 [ 89.912237] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 [ 90.420975] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type = 0x2, length = 0 [ 90.421000] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 [ 90.641355] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 [ 90.676829] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type = 0x2, length = 0 [ 90.676850] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 [ 90.900242] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 [ 90.939088] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type = 0x2, length = 0 [ 90.939111] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 [ 90.940610] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 This occurs whether the Freerunner is attached to the host first or not. Note: when booted into installed image, USB networking is fine and the above errors do not occur. Is this a host side problem or Neo Freerunner problem? I notice in the Qi documentation that there is no dfu-util support. Would that effect dfu-util in Nor? When I do attempt to boot into Nand, I end up with a Nor boot menu that is the same as when I boot into Nor - apparently either why the AUX/Power button are selected I boot to Nor. Is that correct behavior with Qi? BTW - my Nor boot menu seems slightly different than what I see on the wiki - rather than a Reset option in the fifth position I have Reboot. Are there any log or configuration files I should post to help diagnosis? I would like to be able to upgrade the release in memory or for that matter Qi - which I think I'm now blocked from doing. Is there an alternative to the "devirginator" process to restore the Freerunner to "factory" state? Thanks, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: flashing Neo Freerunner problems
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Evgeniy Karyakin wrote: > 2009/2/9 C R McClenaghan : >> I had set my Neo aside for a few weeks and on returning to it I'm >> unable to flash a new kernel or root file system. >> >> When I run "dfu-util -l" while at the NOR menu there are no listed >> usb >> devices. When I boot the NEO into FSO, I am able to connect via USB >> networking. > > Can you tell the list what is happening in host's dmesg when you > plug FR in while it's in NOR menu? I also had similar problems and > ended up with the fact that there's a difference between "plug the > PC<->FR cable, then power FR up to NOR menu" and "power FR up to NOR > menu, then plug the PC<->FR cable". After this change I was able to > see FR in dfu-util device listing. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes, here's the most complete set of messages from dmesg. I have not noticed any difference in the order which the steps are taken to turn on the device and boot to NOR and to plug in the cable. [ 87.928631] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 [ 88.540254] usb 1-1: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/ start: -71 [ 88.540437] usb 1-1: chopping to 0 config(s) [ 88.695904] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 88.698093] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 88.700419] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 [ 88.734000] usb 1-1: no configuration chosen from 0 choices [ 88.736092] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 [ 89.084376] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 [ 89.692859] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type = 0x2, length = 0 [ 89.692909] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 [ 89.912237] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 [ 90.420975] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type = 0x2, length = 0 [ 90.421000] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 [ 90.641355] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 [ 90.676829] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type = 0x2, length = 0 [ 90.676850] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 [ 90.900242] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 [ 90.939088] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type = 0x2, length = 0 [ 90.939111] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22 [ 90.940610] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 I wonder if I've got the right cable, but by process of elimination it seems to be the "one". The other cable I have is for a blackberry, but I get the same result. Note - this seems to be a dfu-util problem, I am able to connect with neocon. Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
flashing Neo Freerunner problems
All, I had set my Neo aside for a few weeks and on returning to it I'm unable to flash a new kernel or root file system. Of course I was previously able to flash. The most recent changes I can recall involve restoring the Nand uboot as I had installed debian and wanted to undo the changes to allow that to work. I cannot recall the exact steps taken to accomplish that, but I believe it was nominally successful and I installed FSO milestone 3. There have been some changes to my host envrionment - MAC OS X with VMWare, but I'm using the same Ubuntu 8.10 VM as was used to install the FSO ms 3. I did create a CentOS 5.2 vm and have the same problem flashing there as well. When I run "dfu-util -l" while at the NOR menu there are no listed usb devices. When I boot the NEO into FSO, I am able to connect via USB networking. I'm kind of stumped, and admit it might be something simple that I'm forgetting, but I have not found anything in the wiki to solve this problem or to jog my memory. I do have a debug board and am prepared to go that route, but I've not satisfied myself that it clearly the NEO versus my host environment. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] How to close the browser window
Walking up the parent directory of your link reveals Penquin Embedded in Valencia, Spain. On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Denis Galvão wrote: > Yeah... One more "hack" to be done... > > BTW, Im not sure if someone got the same Wifi scan success that I had. > So I can scan for networks and (doing a copy paste procedure) start a > new wifi wpa connection. The problem is dhcp that sometimes is not > working properly and you need to force the DNS IP itself. > > Im using these files: > freerunner-v3.jffs2 2009-Jan-12 01:50:1730.5M > uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_android_458301db547e5375.bin 2009-Jan-09 > 16:58:55 2.4M > > From: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ > > Qi as bootloader. (2.4M kernel image) > > Who is behind those daily builds rootfs and kernel? > > -- > Denis Galvão > AsteriskBrasil.org > > Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! > http://www.voipmania.com.br > > > On 12/01/2009, at 15:04, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > >> Denis Galvão wrote: >>> Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start >>> screen? >> >> I dont' know if it can be closed completely without going back until >> the >> begin of the navigation, but I can at least make it go in >> "background" >> by pressing the Menu (power) button -> Windows -> New Window -> Back >> (AUX) button ;) >> >> -- >> Treviño's World - Life and Linux >> http://www.3v1n0.net/ >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android]
All, I think it is more that there is only one codec in the beta image - Ogg-Vorbis. If you join the forum then you can follow this link - http://forum.koolu.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=34 - which seems to describe what works and what doesn't and how to install. Chris On Dec 23, 2008, at 4:38 AM, Andreas Wallin wrote: > I think there has been some issues with software license, > > The multimedia codecs is not in the android software for the > freerunner. > > > > Wendy wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I did some Android image from Sean Mcneil review in devel list. >> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-December/003877.html >> >> I don't know why, but for me i can't use the media player. The >> application is >> there and can lounch it, just can't play song (I'll try that more). >> >> Regards, >> Wendy >> >> On Monday 22 December 2008 00:10:09 rakshat hooja wrote: >> >>> I was in the process of flashing android for the first time. I >>> understand >>> only GSM works on android (no wifi or gps) and thats ok with me. >>> Just had >>> two questions >>> >>> 1) Is there a media player inbuilt in the android flash image? >>> 2) Should one flash the Kolou beta image or Sean's image? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Rakshat >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android rootfs image?
All,
I am not an official spokes person for Koolu, but I had a chance to
speak with Jon "Maddog" Hall (self described Chief Advocate for
Openmoko and in the employ of Koolu) at the Open Mobile Summit last
week in San Francisco, CA. He indicated that Koolu and Sean were
working "together". Further, although I can not recall his exact
phrasing, but as he's an open source advocate, I'm quite confidant
that sources will be made available to the community by Koolu. How
else will the source be made "international"?
Perhaps someone from Koolu could set expectations for a release date
and source code availability?
Chris
On Nov 25, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Gothnet wrote:
>
>
>
> Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof wrote:
>>
>>
>> Where does it say that it will be released in the first week of
>> december?
>>
>>
>
>
> I think they made an announcement or press release or some such. It's
> covered in a bunch of online blogs and news sources -
>
> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Koolu-Support-Android-Platform-Openmokos/story.aspx?guid=
>
> {6A22E64A-35D7-421A-8F28-B92492742C55}
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9302153625.html
> http://androidguys.com/?p=2870
> http://androidcommunity.com/beta-release-of-android-for-openmokos-freerunner-handset-available-the-first-week-of-december-20081120/
>
>
> They all sound quite similar and you're right, there is no sign of
> it on the
> koolu site, so we can only hope for now.
>
> I too am interested in what they've done about a keyboard. From the
> animated
> image on their site it looks like they've solved the call answering
> problem
> by putting in an on-screen button for it, which looks good to me.
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://n2.nabble.com/Android-rootfs-image--tp1575999p1576697.html
> Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: How to start X as non root user without using display manager
Thanks! This is works great! Chris On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:03 AM, TeXitoi wrote: > C R McClenaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I'm hoping to boot into a non privileged user to use the phone. >> Does anyone know how to start X as a non root user without using a >> display manager. My attempts to simply add --chuid option >> to start-stop-daemon result in the error message - "X: user not >> authorized to run the X server, aborting". If I login using a usb >> keyboard an issue startxfce from the shell there isn't any problem. > > to start X without owning the console, see /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config > >> Thoughts? > > Personnally, on debian, I use that in /etc/inittab : > > 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L -n -l /usr/local/sbin/autologin 38400 tty2 > > and autologin : > #!/bin/sh > exec su -l user -c startx -- vt4 > > Thanks to getty in inittab, the console is owned by the launcher, and > /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config do not nead to be touched. > > to customise your xsession, just customise .xsession. > > -- > Guillaume Pinot http://www.irccyn.ec-nantes.fr/ > ~pinot/ > > ``Computers are good at following instructions, but not at reading > your > mind.'' -- Donald E. Knuth, the TeXbook > > () ASCII ribbon campaign -- Against HTML e-mail > /\ http://www.asciiribbon.org -- Against proprietary attachments > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to start X as non root user without using display manager
I'm hoping to boot into a non privileged user to use the phone. Does anyone know how to start X as a non root user without using a display manager. My attempts to simply add --chuid option to start-stop-daemon result in the error message - "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting". If I login using a usb keyboard an issue startxfce from the shell there isn't any problem. Thoughts? Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Sebastian, Having started it from the application menu (at first was missing python-gtk2) I see only GSM and WiFI icons - no batery, GPS or BT? What else do I need to do to get all? Chris On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Sebastian Ohl wrote: > On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:06 +0200, arne anka wrote: >> uhm, how does one use it? > It should appear somewhere in your windowmanagers application menu(in > xfce in submenu other) or you can start it on a console > via /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin > -- > Yours > Sebastian Ohl > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Bravo - coolest "app" to date. I've installed on FSO MS2 with updates for dependencies. For me not only is the keyboard having difficulty but other screen touches in the two new landscape modes are not always calibrated correctly. Now I'll have to read the rest of the documentation to see how to connect the gestures to an action. Chris On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Ben Holt wrote: > Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: >> >> Have fun with it! >> >> > Excellent, the gestures seem to be working well for me, thanks! > > As a somewhat related aside, I haven't played with the landscape view > before and am noticing that the keyboard isn't properly calibrated. > It > looks to expect the keyboard to be centred on the screen, not left > justified as it appears. As such typing is pretty difficult. > > - Ben > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner
Thanks for the response, the ticket is number 88. Chris On Aug 12, 2008, at 6:39 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Am Montag 11 August 2008 18:39:14 schrieb C R McClenaghan: >> There have now been several posts related to the successful use of >> GPRS on one or more of the software platforms - OM 200*.* and FSO - >> but not much discussion of how to multiplex voice and data calls. The >> FSO platform through it's mdbus/dbus interface seems to accomplish >> this. > > Yeah. We are very satisfied with the performance of gsm0710muxd. > >> [1] below describes how to do so with a prior release of ASU. Is >> the multiplexer referenced in [1] - gsm0710muxd - now part of OM >> 2008.8 and should the direct use of /dev/ttySAC0 be avoided? > > No, Om2008.8 is using the Qtopia gsm subsystem, which brings its own > multiplexer (which was disabled for the Neo last time i checked, but > i don't > know the current status). > >> Is the >> multiplexer referenced in [1] and apparently running on FSO the means >> by which data and voice are multiplexed in FSO? > > Yes. > >> In FSO, if gsm0710muxd >> is the running daemon, what is the role of gsmd? > > No one is working on gsmd any longer. Some of the architectural > decisions made > right in the beginning of the project have proven unfixable. The > work of gsmd > is getting done by the ogsmd subsystem which is part of the > framework daemon. > >> Is gsmd active during >> voice calls only? > > frameworkd.ogsmd is taking care about everything non-PPP. pppd takes > care > about the actual data on a GPRS, however ogsmd takes care of > configuring pppd > and restoring configuration once the GPRS connection has been setup/ > taken > down. > >> Finally, with FSO and the mdbus/dbus interface , how >> can I set other connection parameters - for example, speed, timeouts, >> reconnect? > > Which parameters exactly do you want to configure? We already > configure it to > have maximum throughput. > >> Oh, yea - how can either a dund or pand connection event trigger gprs >> for laptop tethering? > > Please open an 'enhancement' ticket (trac.freesmartphone.org). > > -- > :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner
There have now been several posts related to the successful use of GPRS on one or more of the software platforms - OM 200*.* and FSO - but not much discussion of how to multiplex voice and data calls. The FSO platform through it's mdbus/dbus interface seems to accomplish this. [1] below describes how to do so with a prior release of ASU. Is the multiplexer referenced in [1] - gsm0710muxd - now part of OM 2008.8 and should the direct use of /dev/ttySAC0 be avoided? Is the multiplexer referenced in [1] and apparently running on FSO the means by which data and voice are multiplexed in FSO? In FSO, if gsm0710muxd is the running daemon, what is the role of gsmd? Is gsmd active during voice calls only? Finally, with FSO and the mdbus/dbus interface , how can I set other connection parameters - for example, speed, timeouts, reconnect? Thoughts? Suggestions? Oh, yea - how can either a dund or pand connection event trigger gprs for laptop tethering? Chris [1] http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=dda5c6cbf5850182c786488123f056ce On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > I gave it a try, too! I have a t-mobile flat rate which I use > from my laptop. I just copied the file to the freerunner altered > /etc/group as you supposed. > > My files look like this: > > /etc/ppp/peers/t-mobile > --- > user "tm" > connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/connect-t-mobile" > /dev/ttySAC0 > persist > modem > noipdefault > usepeerdns > defaultroute > ipcp-accept-local > ipcp-accept-remote > lock > crtscts > > /etc/ppp/connect-t-mobile > - > > ABORT 'BUSY' > ABORT 'NO CARRIER' > ABORT 'ERROR' > '' AT > OK AT+CGATT=1 > OK AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.t-mobile" > OK ATDT*99***1# > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets > > # Secrets for authentication using PAP > # client server secret IP addresses > * * "" * > "tm" * "tm"* > > That's all. I connected it yesterday and it worked. I used tangogps > along with it and it downloaded the tiles automatically without having > a usb cable connected. This is great! Gprs indeed feels slow and > sluggish. > > The user tm in my files is arbitrarily chosen. It is said it's just > better to connect with supplying a user and password. > > Norbert > > > 08-09 at 14:51 -0700, Nathan Kinkade wrote: >> I just wanted to share with the community that I have somewhat got >> GPRS working T-Mobile on a Freerunner (GTA02) with the August 8 >> release of Om2008.8. I'm going to paste a bunch of stuff in here, so >> sorry if this email is pretty confused and long. I need to say up >> front that I don't have any data plan with T-Mobile. I just went >> to a >> T-Mobile store yesterday and bought a SIM chip (US$10) and a pre-paid >> plan. The guy behind the counter asked me what the phone was that I >> had. I explained a little, and then he mentioned something about me >> being able to get free data service, that T-Mobile didn't advertise >> it, and that it wasn't worth their time to track down who was using >> it >> ... I don't know. He just wrote on my receipt "wap.voicestream.com". >> >> I should also note that I didn't have to modify >> /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on, or chown >> /dev/ttySAC0, or even do "stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 crtscts". However, in >> relation to chowning /dev/ttySAC0, I *did* modify /etc/group and add >> the users "uucp" and "ppp" to the group "dialout", which by default >> has write permissions on /dev/ttySAC0. >> >> It seems to connect, bring up the ppp0 interface, and get and >> configure a number of TCP/IP settings. Only DNS name resolution >> seems >> to work, but this is probably just because I don't have a data plan, >> or haven't figured out what ports are open to the outside world or >> what proxy may need to be used. Any input, or suggestions would be >> great. >> >> What I've done required very little modification from this wiki >> article: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS. The only files I edited >> or created were the ones you see below. Get ready for a cut-n-paste >> fest: >> >> - >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/peers/tmobile >> lock >> /dev/ttySAC0 115200 >> crtscts >> connect /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect >> disconnect /etc/ppp/tmobile-disconnect >> hide-password >> usepeerdns >> ipcp-accept-local >> noauth >> noipdefault >> novj >> novjccomp >> defaultroute >> replacedefaultroute >> # Reopen the connection if it fails, pausing for a while. >> persist >> holdoff 15 >> # Check the line every 20 seconds and presume >> # the peer is gone if no reply for 4 times. >> lcp-echo-interval 20 >> lcp-echo-failure 4 >> >> - >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect >> #!/bin/sh -e
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Although not measured, I've confirmed that the iGo systems - Juice and car charger - with the A32 tip will charge the Neo Freerunner. At one point it stopped working, but either of a uboot or kernel change has it working again. On Aug 10, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Olivier Berger wrote: > "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> steve wrote: >>> Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. >> Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin? >> >>> We need a better search on the wiki >> Maybe also a small article with photos (as example) of a reworked >> charger (I figure that some opnemoko developers have already done >> that :P). >> > > Guys, I guess http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger may be the > right place to add contents to. > > Btw, I've described a car charger of mine there. > > Regards, > > -- > Olivier BERGER > (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) > http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
I have copied Fredrik's shell scripts to my FR with FSO MS2 and find that they work much better than my own. I'll have to find some other way to contribute. Chris On Aug 8, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote: > > > Fredrik Wendt wrote: >>> Please wikify this information >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO >> >> Feel free to change. > > Lovely. > Thank you very much! > > M > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
I've been away from home since this thread began. I tried to learn in the meantime a little bit about the mdbus *PDP* per Mickey's suggestion, but I'm not there yet. What I have working seems to allow multiplexing of data and voice through gsm multiplexor, however more than 2 "calls" of either type seems to kill and further calling and requires a reboot. I have been able to hold a gprs data connection for over 4 hours. It did not fail at the end, I moved on to another task requiring a reboot. I'll post my interim method tomorrow. In the meantime, does anyone else experience gsm instability with FSO MS2? Chris On Aug 7, 2008, at 9:37 PM, Michael Shiloh wrote: > > > Fredrik Wendt wrote: >> ons 2008-08-06 klockan 21:07 -0700 skrev Michael Shiloh: >>> C R McClenaghan wrote: >>>> I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get >>>> GPRS >>>> working on FSO Milestone 2 release. This is for a Freerunner, if >>>> it matters. >>>> >>> >>>> I'll post something to the wiki if there's sufficient interest. >>>> >>>> Chris >>> To make a typical British understatement, "Heck yeah!". >>> >>> Getting GPRS working has been incredibly difficult. Please post your >>> recipes on the wiki in the appropriate place. >>> >>> If there already exists one set please add yours as an alternative - >>> this is one case where duplication is good because each carrier >>> seems to >>> be a little different. >>> >> >> You shouldn't need to execute pppd by yourself (on the FSO) - there >> are >> methods available on the dbus ready to be used. >> >> I have a shell script that executes: >> >> mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device >> org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext internet.parlino.se >> username >> password >> >> It works perfectly. (However, after a disconnect I loose all GSM >> connectivity, but I need to test this more in order to feel I can >> file a >> bug.) > > > Please wikify this information > > Thanks > Michael > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 empty?
Regarding the xserver update, I was able to get it to load by unloading (remove) and then loading it (install). After the remove, opkg pickd up the newer version without use of force options. Chris On Aug 6, 2008, at 2:14 AM, Sven Klomp wrote: > On Wednesday 06 August 2008 11:00:41 Eildert Groeneveld wrote: >> After trying FSO and installing distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om- >> gta02.ipk >> >> I did a opkg update and upgrade, without any effect. >> >> When looking at /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 : no >> wonder, it is >> empty. > > At the moment there is only an update for the xserver (updates/ > armv4t/). > However, the update will not work since opkg uses the git hash as > version > number. The hash of the old package is "higher". Therfore, opkg > assumes it is > up to date.. > > Sven > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO wifi power control
There is if I recall correctly. Search the wiki for mdbus. I think there is an object and a method for that. You can then use mdbus on the object. mdbus --help or mdbus -a for usage and available options. Chris McClenaghan -- Hand-crafted mail -- My other phone is an OpenMoko. On Aug 7, 2008, at 1:59 PM, "Angus Ainslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the command line in FSO. I thought it might be here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs but it doesn't seem to be. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
general question about similarities and differences of usb and bluetooth networking
All, I've been taking it easy with the FSO Milestone 2 image - nice piece of work, not as fully functional as 2007.2, but appears to me more stable and intuitive. I don't think the questions below are unique to this environment, but that's what I'm using on my Neo Freerunner. When I connect with USB Networking to my Ubuntu 8.04 host, it is sufficient to simply set up the via ifconfig on both systems the connection, to place the DNS server used by the Ubuntu host in the / etc/resolv.conf of the Neo Freerunner and I can reach what ever network my Ubuntu host is attached to - in this case the home network and the old dub-dub-dub. Doing what appears to be the same as UDB Networking, except using pand, I setup the Ubuntu host as a "listener" with the "role NAP", put the Neo Freerunner in the client role, assign ip addresses with ifconfig, setup /etc/resolv.conf as before but all I can ping from the Neo Freerunner is the Ubuntu host. In fact I cannot even ping the DNS server. Note, I have shutdown USB networking and only the loopback interface is active. I've tried adding a default route on the Neo Freerunner and still can only ping the Ubuntu host. I've added iptable magic to no effect either. Note, the latter two steps were not required with USB networking. Here's my question: what's the same and what's different about USB networking and Bluetooth PAN networking? Of course, the follow on, is how to get a shared connection through the Ubuntu host with bluetooth with the understanding achieved from the answer to the first question. Thanks, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS rework: Please test and report on software fix prior to attempting any hardware fix
Agreed. Would be a whole lot easier on everyone if a uboot, kernel(s) and rootfs were provided along with test scripts and a procedures document to follow. On Aug 4, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Josh Thompson wrote: > Could we get a link to some image files to use for this testing? > I'm not > quite sure when Andy's fix made it in the kernel. It would also help > standardize the tests if we all use the same images. > > Josh > > On Mon August 4 2008 7:29:17 pm Michael Shiloh wrote: >> Before we conclude that the hardware fix is required, we'd really >> like >> to gather a lot of statistics from you about the behavior of the >> software fix. We have been able to test in only a limited number of >> locations, and a limited number of phones. >> >> We'd like to ask you to run some tests and report back the TTFF in >> each >> case: >> >> 1. Prior to Andy's software fix >> 1a. Without SD card >> 1b. With SD card >> >> 2. Using Andy's software fix >> 2a. Without SD card >> 2b. With SD card >> >> Preferably run this test in multiple locations. >> >> Results should be reported on a wiki page, which should include your >> location (so we can assess other influences e.g. satellite >> elevation and >> weather conditions) >> >> Thanks, >> Michael > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS working on FSO Milestone 2 release. This is for a Freerunner, if it matters. I stole liberally from http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=dda5c6cbf5850182c786488123f056ce and made couple of tweaks. Basically, I'm just using the following files from the tar file referenced at the above link - gprs, gprs- connect-chat, gprs-disconnect-chat, gprson, gprsoff. Most of the instructions at the above link can be ignored as the work of multiplexing call and data traffic is part of FSO framework (as I understand it). Just make sure you put each of the above files in the correct locations as indicated. The missing piece is to simply use the shell scripts gprson and gprsoff. The former has the dbus request to get a MUX'd channel from gsm daemon (gsm0710muxd sp?). I'll post something to the wiki if there's sufficient interest. Chris___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August 4-7, in SanFrancisco?
Chris McClenaghan -- Hand-crafted mail -- My other phone is an OpenMoko. On Jul 21, 2008, at 8:09 PM, "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Chris, > >Contact Pat and she will schedule your time. > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R > McClenaghan > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:14 PM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Subject: Re: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August > 4-7,in > SanFrancisco? > > Steve, > > Sounds like you need the commitment sooner than later. I am able to > commit > to August 4. As a FR owner I would love to be there. > > I will be on vacation tomorrow through the 29th. I'll have email > access, but > will likely not hit it but once a day. > > Let me know where to be and when to be there. > > I appreciate the opportunity. > > Chris > > On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:15 PM, steve wrote: > >> The T shirts are planned, and I need to know how many debug boards >> and >> spares kits I need to pick up from Fremont to give away to >> volunteers. >> >> And pat needs firm commitments to build a schedule. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael >> Shiloh >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:52 PM >> To: List for OpenMoko community discussion >> Subject: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August 4-7, >> in >> SanFrancisco? >> >> Openmoko will be at Linuxworld, and needs to staff two booths: One in >> the main vendor area, and another in the Linux Garage. >> >> As we are a small understaffed team, we would love it if some of you >> could commit to helping us. >> >> If you are on this mailing list, you already know enough to answer >> the >> most common question: "What is Openmoko?". >> >> As for more technical questions, don't worry - you already know a >> lot, >> and you can always defer questions to one of us. >> >> In return we plan some sort of appreciation, perhaps in the form of >> T-shirts or some other Openmoko swag, and you will be the proud owner >> of our undying gratitude :-) You will also be able to ask Steve all >> those difficult questions you've been saving up. >> >> It's also a great opportunity for us to get to know you, no matter >> how >> much or little time you can commit to helping. >> >> LinuxWorld is August 4-7, in San Francisco. >> >> Please let me know right away so that I can arrange for badges. >> >> Passes for the exhibit hall are free! Register at >> http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015 >> >> If there is interest we will also hold a BoF session. >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternative stylus - Group Buy
Steven, Check this link out: http://www.cowonamerica.com/buy/us.html There do appear to be Canadian and other international outlets as well. As far as your offer goes, I'll take one as well. Chris On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:53 PM, Steven ** wrote: > Anyone interested in a different group buy? > I want one of these: > http://www.jetmall.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=303 > I think it would go with my FreeRunner very well. It even has a > little strap that I could hook though the hole on the FreeRunner! > > But as you'll see, they want $9 to ship a $3 stylus. They apparently > only offer UPS for shipping and I can't find any other store that > sells this stylus. However, the shipping cost doesn't go up with > additional stylus (because they weigh nothing!). So, if anyone else > is interested in one, we could save on shipping by buying 10 of them > and re-shipping via USPS (which wouldn't need more than a 42 cent > stamp in the US). Anyone interested? If I can get 8 other people, it > would work out to $4.50 per person. > > -Steven > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Influence of WiFi on GPS readings (200m error)
I'm not sure where the fault lies, but with tangogps, I seem to get a scatter plot displayed for my position. Initially the fix seems accurate, then it starts to wander, although I may not be. If I am moving, the trial doesn't seem to follow the route I've taken. I think it may be tangogps, but I thought I'd try using my garmin bluetooth in a "side by side" kind of test to see whether it is tangogps or the gps radio. Chris On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:02 AM, Russell Sears wrote: > I've had this problem when the initial fix was obtained while I'm > inside > a vehicle (such as a bus or car) or near a lot of metal. Going to a > complete stop, then moving a few times (in the car) seems to give the > chipset a better chance to realize it's got a bogus fix. > > -Rusty > > Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Finally I got to play with FR. Flushed todays (0721) dev image and >> kernel. >> Running TangoGPS. While WiFi is on (WEP encrypted. wpa_supplicant >> powered ;)) I am having location error (never hit the right spot) >> around >> 200-400m with reported speed from 0.5 to 20 km/h (while I am siting >> steadily in 1 place). >> >> When I turn WiFi Off (just on my FR, without touching access point >> or a >> laptop from which I am writing) -- location moves to the right spot >> with >> a bias of 10m or so. >> >> Therefore, the question: is that expected? ie that we can't rely on >> GPS >> readings while WiFi is on? Or from the other side: what is >> 'documented' precision in GPS readings while WiFi is enabled (and not >> actually very actively used, if used at all since I guess TangoGPS >> already had those tiles from OSM downloaded). >> >> Or may be it is just my FR which behaves that way? Did anyone observe >> any similar behavior? >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import Contacts
When I list the commands on the FR it shows openmoko-contacts, but when I opkg install openmoko-contacts2, it tells me I'm up to date. I'm using the 2007.2 build of 7/18, not ASU or qtopia. I'll do some digging around to see if dbus is active or other stuff before I try it again. I assume you meant dbus when you said daemon in your other reply. Chris On Jul 20, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Roland Mas wrote: > C R McClenaghan, 2008-07-16 10:35:13 -0700 : > >> All, >> >> I get the following error using manage-contacts.py in the following >> way from SSH: >> >> python manage-contacts.py load > [...] > >> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: >> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "addContact" with >> signature "s" on interface >> "org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.addressbook.Book" doesn't exist >> >> I have installed via opkg python-dbus per wiki instructions. > > Strange. It still works here. You do have openmoko-contacts2 > installed, right? You're not using ASU or Qtopia or something? > > Roland. > -- > Roland Mas > > Despite rumour, Death isn't cruel - merely terribly, terribly good > at his job. > -- in Sourcery (Terry Pratchett) > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Terminal for ASU
I think I tried "vte" from the repos and it worked. I couldn't get the built in keyboard to come up so I abandoned ASU for the time being. Since I didn't have a keyboard, by worked I mean I could start it. Chris On Jul 20, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Scott Petersen wrote: > Is it just my inability to find things or is there truly no terminal > application for ASU in the standard repositories? > > Does anybody have any recommendations for a terminal for ASU? I > tried to > get openmoko-terminal2 to run but it crashes every time. > > Cheer > Scott Petersen > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August 4-7, in SanFrancisco?
Steve, Sounds like you need the commitment sooner than later. I am able to commit to August 4. As a FR owner I would love to be there. I will be on vacation tomorrow through the 29th. I'll have email access, but will likely not hit it but once a day. Let me know where to be and when to be there. I appreciate the opportunity. Chris On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:15 PM, steve wrote: > The T shirts are planned, and I need to know how many debug boards and > spares kits > I need to pick up from Fremont to give away to volunteers. > > And pat needs firm commitments to build a schedule. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael > Shiloh > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:52 PM > To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > Subject: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August 4-7, in > SanFrancisco? > > Openmoko will be at Linuxworld, and needs to staff two booths: One > in the > main vendor area, and another in the Linux Garage. > > As we are a small understaffed team, we would love it if some of you > could > commit to helping us. > > If you are on this mailing list, you already know enough to answer > the most > common question: "What is Openmoko?". > > As for more technical questions, don't worry - you already know a > lot, and > you can always defer questions to one of us. > > In return we plan some sort of appreciation, perhaps in the form of > T-shirts > or some other Openmoko swag, and you will be the proud owner of our > undying > gratitude :-) You will also be able to ask Steve all those difficult > questions you've been saving up. > > It's also a great opportunity for us to get to know you, no matter > how much > or little time you can commit to helping. > > LinuxWorld is August 4-7, in San Francisco. > > Please let me know right away so that I can arrange for badges. > > Passes for the exhibit hall are free! Register at > http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015 > > If there is interest we will also hold a BoF session. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Steve, I'm either crazy or loosing my mind. I was sure that the FR was charging with the iGO and the A32 (Rev 1, subscript T) tip. I went to by another tip and got a A32 (Rev 2, subscript E) and while the FR recognized a connection (the usb symbol showed) it did not charge. I retired the other tip and same thing - usb symbol but no charge. I checked battery status with apm and it reported "off line" when the iGO was connected. Which tip are you using? Did I blow something? The USB charge and wall charger both work, so I'm questioning now whether I ever really saw my FR charging, maybe just saw the usb icon and assumed it was. Chris On Jul 13, 2008, at 11:36 AM, steve wrote: > I have the same iGO. Have used it without problem with my freerunner > for a > long while > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R > McClenaghan > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:44 PM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Cc: Brenda Wang > Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 > > A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger > and many > tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. > Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo > car > charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand > here, > just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and > whether it is safe. > > Chris > > On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: > >> Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. >> We need a better search on the wiki >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "Marco >> Trevisan (Treviño)" >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM >> To: community@lists.openmoko.org >> Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 >> >> Andy Selby ha scritto: >>>> How do you enable 1A charging via software? The "echo 'fast_cccv' > >>>> etc.." only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to >>>> this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo >>>> 1973 by the way. >>> >>> I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to >>> the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post >>> you >>> quoted was about the freerunner. >> >> I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if >> charger supports it). >> >> -- >> Treviño's World - Life and Linux >> http://www.3v1n0.net/ >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue
Tony, Will OpenMoko offer this repair to Freerunner owners? How and under what terms? Chris On Jul 18, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: > Dear Community: > > For GTA02 SD card interference GPS issue, our hardware team provide a > hardware fix/workaround for this coexistence bug. Sorry post it late, > because we have to make sure this fix works and don't have side > effects. > > Here is the fix: > > http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf > > This fix could give almost same performance with SD card out of case. > > But this work still not suggest do by yourself, also, this fix need > proper size capacitor (10 pf with 0402 package), and some solder > technique. > > We saw people ask about service issues of Openmoko devices, and we are > working on it. Our sales discussing with our distributor about proper > services model, but do not have consensus yet, I will keep update it. > > Thanks, > > Tony Tu > > Openmoko, Inc. > > Support > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August 4-7, in San Francisco?
Michael, I may be able to help out. Probably won't know for sure until 7/30 or 7/31. I live a short drive away and wouldn't mind an excuse for an Anchor Steam and some oysters at Swans. Chris On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Michael Shiloh wrote: > Openmoko will be at Linuxworld, and needs to staff two booths: One in > the main vendor area, and another in the Linux Garage. > > As we are a small understaffed team, we would love it if some of you > could commit to helping us. > > If you are on this mailing list, you already know enough to answer the > most common question: "What is Openmoko?". > > As for more technical questions, don't worry - you already know a lot, > and you can always defer questions to one of us. > > In return we plan some sort of appreciation, perhaps in the form of > T-shirts or some other Openmoko swag, and you will be the proud > owner of > our undying gratitude :-) You will also be able to ask Steve all those > difficult questions you've been saving up. > > It's also a great opportunity for us to get to know you, no matter how > much or little time you can commit to helping. > > LinuxWorld is August 4-7, in San Francisco. > > Please let me know right away so that I can arrange for badges. > > Passes for the exhibit hall are free! Register at > http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015 > > If there is interest we will also hold a BoF session. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tmobile wifi voice calls
Although I'm not yet as knowledgeable about the details as I'll need to be, to be able to use my 'moko for this purpose is why I'm here. I have tmobile's @Home service and I'm currently using that sim on the FR ( the old Nokia 6086 with its BL-5C battery is in standby as an emergency battery charger ;-) ). I'll begin to pursue this via the provided links in my copious spare time. Anyone interested in an ongoing dialog let me know. Chris On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Al Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 17 July 2008, Carl Karsten wrote: >> "Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your >> home >> phone." >> http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1&rate >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t- >> mobile uses? >> does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: >> >> "The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile >> Access, or >> UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates >> it into >> an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is >> authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called >> EAP-SIM." >> http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php > > Nice prompt for a little background reading. From what I see it seems > unlikely. strongSWAN appears to support IKEv2 and EAP-SIM but > somehow I doubt > T-Mobile will hand out the certificate needed in addition to the > SIM. The bit > that looks tricky is the signalling part to tell the mobile phone > network > that it can pass the call data over to the wifi connection. This is > the sort > of thing that's normally buried in the cellular modem, and I don't > know of an > open version of that. I could be pleasantly surprised though - it > would be a > good addition to have. > > [1] http://www.embedded.com/underthehood/205916513 > [2] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6470081317.html > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What *is* the warranty on the Freerunners?
Ian, Not sure myself of the clear separation between community and support lists, but perhaps this is more of a support question? Chris On Jul 17, 2008, at 11:12 AM, ian douglas wrote: > never did see an update on this from anyone at OpenMoko ? > > -id > > > ian douglas wrote: >> That is, what does it cover? >> >> I have a box of Freerunners beside me, but they've been purchased >> as a >> bulk order for 10 other buyers, so I don't want to open the boxes >> to see >> if there's any warranty information inside. >> >> My impression was that the 14-day warranty on single units and 28-day >> warranty on bulk orders was to cover DOA units only. That if the >> whole >> thing failed to power on despite charging, etc.etc. that it could be >> returned. >> >> Does the warranty cover more than this? ie: if we only have a 14/28 >> day >> warranty to return a broken Freerunner, who has communicated to us >> what >> defines "broken" ? >> >> There's obviously been a huge amount of traffic on the list today >> about >> the GPS unit in the Freerunners and Joerg has hinted at a possible >> hardware fix to follow a software fix in the kernel. Does our >> warranty >> cover "recalls" for fixes like this? If the hardware fix occurs after >> our 14/28 day warranty period, does that mean we'll have to incur >> some >> cost for the fix besides shipping the units back to OpenMoko? >> >> I'd also like to add this warranty info on the wiki. >> >> -id >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import Contacts
All, I get the following error using manage-contacts.py in the following way from SSH: python manage-contacts.py load load_contacts () File "manage-contacts.py", line 61, in load_contacts ab.addContact (contacts [k]) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 607, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "addContact" with signature "s" on interface "org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.addressbook.Book" doesn't exist I have installed via opkg python-dbus per wiki instructions. Thoughts? Chris On Jul 14, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > smurfy - phil wrote: >> i added a small script and infos at: >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts >> >> how to import vcf contacts to the default 2007.2 contacts application > > What about using GTK contacts [1]? > It runs both on PC and in Openmoko and it should allow you to manage > your contacts in a better way. I've used in my PC to import my old > mobile phone contacts and I figure it will work well also in a > Freerunner... :P > > > [1] http://pimlico-project.org/contacts.html > > > -- > Treviño's World - Life and Linux > http://www.3v1n0.net/ > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Updates
Comment embeddded: On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:45 AM, arne anka wrote: >> opkg update was ok but then upgrade ran until my ssh connection was >> dropped. > > dunno why dropbear drops the connection on upgrade, ususally existing > connections shouldn't be affected. maybe one of dropbear's .preinst or > .postinst scripts causes the restart. > try > nohup opkg upgrade & > the upgrade should continue even if teh connection is lost > > >> Tried again from FR terminal, and it ran until something like X was >> restarted. > > restarting X from fr terminal _always_ crashes the my fr completely! > i do all this stuff over ssh (cant' remember having lost the > connection > while dopbear upgrades), so the X restart does not affect my > connection. > even restarting X works over ssh: > /etc/init.d/xsmthing-nodm stop > /etc/init.d/xsmthing-nodm start > notice, though, that > /etc/init.d/xsmthing-nodm restart > seems _not_ to work! ^ IIRC it half works, it will shutdown but not start the X server. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS external antenna socket
As an impulse buy, I bought a Gilsson Technologies external GPS antenna. It was the only one the store had and it came with 4 adapters, one seems to work. I get an apparent boost (30-50%???) in signal strength. I have removed my Micro SD and have only used it with a few times. The model "number" appears to be: FME. Chris On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:21 AM, André Gaul wrote: > Hi! > > I just bought a GPS antenna this week. It's the Navilock AT-65 MMCX: > http://www.navilock.de/produkte/gruppen/12/Zusatz_Antennen/61232_AT-65_MMCX.html > > I paid EUR 7,90 at www.reichelt.de and it works pretty good. Got a fix > with my Freerunner indoors after about 110 seconds. With the internal > antenna (and SD card inserted, see thread "Reason for GPS problems > found") I get no fix at all indoors. I'll check the outdoor behavior > later. > > ciao, > André > > > Joseph Reeves schrieb: >> It's mmcx; there's plenty of commercially available antennas >> available >> for cheap that will fit. >> >> Post results of some comparative testing if you buy one ;-) >> >> Joseph >> >> >> >> 2008/7/16 Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> What standard is the GPS external antenna socket on GTA02? Are any >>> antennas for popular GPS navigators supposed to match? I tried an >>> external >>> antenna for Garmin, but they use a bigger diameter. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com >>> >>> ___ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS
Here are my results of pumping NMEA data from the FreeRunner to another GPS client and pumping NMEA data from another GPS device to the Freerunner. FR -> GPSy (Mac OS X client) - could not get a fix on NMEA data Garmin 10 -> FR - tangoGPS worked flawlessly Apparently, agpsui reads directly from /dev/ttySAC1 even when gpsd is running. Couldn't get agpsui to "see" the Garmin 10 data. Also, GPSy worked flawlessly with Garmin 10 data. As near as I can tell, the two data streams are very different in terms of GPS data and information. I'm not knowledgeable enough to say what the difference is, except the FR data is much more terse/brief (shorter length of each line of data). What this experiment tells me is that data coming from the FR GPS chip either directly or via gpsd is does not contain enough information for a fix. What software exists between gpsd and/or /dev/ttySAC, if any, may be responsile or the GSP chip itself is not getting what it needs from the antenna. Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS
Thanks for this, I also found how to go the other direction on the wiki. Right now I have the AGPS application reading data from the Garmin. Three minutes have passed and no fix yet. Will try Tango and then reverse the scenario for the Palm TX. L8r, Chris On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:54 AM, arne anka wrote: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS#GTA02 > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS
A refinement on the thought below - how to pipe the NMEA data to a bluetooth serial port so I can connect my Palm TX and run its mapping off the FR GPS chip data. If anyone could provide pointers on setting up bluetooth serial connections to/from the FR I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Chris On Jul 14, 2008, at 9:26 AM, C R McClenaghan wrote: > This will be my 3rd GPS device in ~5 years. The first two - a NAVMAN > from New Zealand and a Garmin - always had exceedingly long cold > starts (i.e. turn the device off, fly >1500 km, turn device on), on > the order of 10 minutes. > > I still have the Garmin in working condition, it is the Garmin 10, a > bluetooth model. If some one could help me with the FR bluetooth, > and the GSP applications, I could connect to FR "gps" stack to the > Garmin to isolate them from the on board chip. This would, of > course. assume that the bluetooth stack didn't cloud any issue. > > Thoughts, how-tos? > > Chris > > On Jul 14, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Jay Vaughan wrote: > >>> The module talks NMEA but also a ublox binary format. Among other >>> things this >>> allows time and location estimates, ephemeris and almanac data to be >>> fed to >>> the module to give it an initial state, and should reduce time to >>> first fix. >>> Likewise it can be used to request this data from the module so it >>> can be >>> saved before shutdown. 'Driver' probably isn't the right word. >> >> >> So we just need to wrap 'save' and 'restore' scripts around the gpsd >> script? >> >> ; >> -- >> Jay Vaughan >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS
What is meant by "cold start"? Is this simply a power off and power back on? Or is it the power cycle and no previous fix data for current location? With other GPS devices, until that first location fix was achieved, nothing happened, but once achieved and no significant change in geography, then a fix could be achieved in less than a few minutes. Given that most of these devices are being received in a location different than where ever the device may have previously gotten a fix, my thought is part of the problem is getting that first current location fix. Chris On Jul 14, 2008, at 9:23 AM, thomasg wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Ken Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: thomasg wrote: > This all are no arguments. > With my TomTom device I can do a full reset so that no GPS data is > available > at all (also no time and so on) and still get a fix in < 3 minutes at > 100 km/h. > Well, I know the freerunner is no specialized gps navigation device, but > the > fact that the signals are so weak that it's barely possible to get a fix > under optimal condition (clear view to the sky, antenna on top, without > moving 1 mm) shows, that this is no simple software problem and has to > be fixed. The GPS performance of my Freerunner is also much worse than the GPS performance of my neo1973. I've done side-by-side tests of the two units many times. My neo1973 gets a good fix in 2 to 3 minutes after a completely cold start; it's very reliable. My Freerunner initially was getting a fix after 7 or 8 minutes. For the last few days it has not been able to get a fix at all. Ken Young I can confirm that, too. The 1973 gets a cold start fix in less than 2 minutes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS
This will be my 3rd GPS device in ~5 years. The first two - a NAVMAN from New Zealand and a Garmin - always had exceedingly long cold starts (i.e. turn the device off, fly >1500 km, turn device on), on the order of 10 minutes. I still have the Garmin in working condition, it is the Garmin 10, a bluetooth model. If some one could help me with the FR bluetooth, and the GSP applications, I could connect to FR "gps" stack to the Garmin to isolate them from the on board chip. This would, of course. assume that the bluetooth stack didn't cloud any issue. Thoughts, how-tos? Chris On Jul 14, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Jay Vaughan wrote: >> The module talks NMEA but also a ublox binary format. Among other >> things this >> allows time and location estimates, ephemeris and almanac data to be >> fed to >> the module to give it an initial state, and should reduce time to >> first fix. >> Likewise it can be used to request this data from the module so it >> can be >> saved before shutdown. 'Driver' probably isn't the right word. > > > So we just need to wrap 'save' and 'restore' scripts around the gpsd > script? > > ; > -- > Jay Vaughan > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: San Francisco Bay Area Meetup
Is anyone able to meet this Monday or Tueday? Palo Alto area with give me the most flexibility. Chris On Jul 12, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Vijay Vaidyanathan wrote: > >> Hi ... >> I have a shiny new FreeRunner that I am planning to play with over >> the >> weekend, but I find the information on the Wiki a little hard to >> get started >> with. > > Hi all, > > Sadly I'm out of town for much of the next few weeks - but any time > after > August 17 I'd love to catch up with Bay Area OpenMoko fans. > > -- Asheesh. > > -- > Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Networking - Freerunner & Mac OS X 10.5.4
Rusty, Thanks - I had just reread the wiki and noticed my error. Too much excitement on receiving the unit and not enough coffee this morning ;-) Thanks for the help - I am able to ssh to the Freerunner! Onward and upward. Chris On Jul 12, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Russell Sears wrote: > The neo's IP address is 192.168.0.202; the Mac's IP should be > 192.168.0.200, so you're trying to ssh to the laptop, not the phone. > > I have no idea why you're getting the cannot allocate memory errors. > The ubutu error messages make more sense, so I'd try troubleshooting > it > from there first. > > -Rusty > > C R McClenaghan wrote: >> I'm having trouble getting USB networking to work on my new Neo >> Freerunner. Under Mac OS X 10.5.4 I'm getting: >> >> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Cannot allocate memory >> >> and >> >> PING 192.168.0.200 (192.168.0.200): 56 data bytes >> ping: sendto: Cannot allocate memory >> >> If I use an Ubuntu 8.04 virtual machine on the Mac, the ping >> succeeds, >> but the ssh is denied with: >> >> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused >> >> I have looked at the Mac OS X wiki pages and tried an alternative >> driver, but that seemed to have no effect. From the shell I'm unable >> to run lsmod or modprobe, so I'm not sure which of the two drivers is >> running. I'm about to try the other driver mentioned on the wiki for >> the Zaraus, but I'm not hopeful. >> >> I can access the USB console for both UBoots - Nor and Nand, so the >> cable itself seems good. >> >> Has anyone insight or suggestions on what I might try? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chris >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB Networking - Freerunner & Mac OS X 10.5.4
I'm having trouble getting USB networking to work on my new Neo Freerunner. Under Mac OS X 10.5.4 I'm getting: ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Cannot allocate memory and PING 192.168.0.200 (192.168.0.200): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Cannot allocate memory If I use an Ubuntu 8.04 virtual machine on the Mac, the ping succeeds, but the ssh is denied with: ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused I have looked at the Mac OS X wiki pages and tried an alternative driver, but that seemed to have no effect. From the shell I'm unable to run lsmod or modprobe, so I'm not sure which of the two drivers is running. I'm about to try the other driver mentioned on the wiki for the Zaraus, but I'm not hopeful. I can access the USB console for both UBoots - Nor and Nand, so the cable itself seems good. Has anyone insight or suggestions on what I might try? Thanks, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: > Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. > We need a better search on the wiki > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "Marco > Trevisan > (Treviño)" > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 > > Andy Selby ha scritto: >>> How do you enable 1A charging via software? The "echo 'fast_cccv' > >>> etc.." only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to >>> this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo >>> 1973 by the way. >> >> I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to >> the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you >> quoted was about the freerunner. > > I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if > charger > supports it). > > -- > Treviño's World - Life and Linux > http://www.3v1n0.net/ > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Got it!
While I was waiting for UPS, I made this partial attempt at a port of OpenMoko to my other phone ... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:WaitingForMyNeoFreeRunner.jpg Hope I haven't violated any rule on either side -) Chris___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems with building openmoko-sample with toolchain
The offending script that caused this error for me is something called om-launch.sh (I don't think I renamed it). I had tried out the "emulation" before building the toolchain and the shell script seemed to muck things up a bit. Again, starting with a fresh shell resolved everything. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Łukasz Holetzke wrote: Hi, got my FR, now I want do build openmoko-sample on my machine and execute it on FR. I've read http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain and done step by step these instructions. I having troubles with ./autogen.sh. In the configure part, I've got: configure: loading site script /usr/local/openmoko/arm/site-config checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... yes checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking for gcc... ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc - march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details. Okay, no host. Then I run (or I'm doing something wrong) ./configure --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu && make After that: /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link ccache arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -std=gnu99 -Wall -pedantic - std=c99 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/ include/libmokoui2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom- linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm- angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/ arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/local/openmoko/ arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/ openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/ local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/glib-2.0/ include -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/ include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom- linux-gnueabi/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm- angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/ arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -isystem/ usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include - fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers - Os -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib -Wl,- rpath-link,/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib - Wl,-O1 -o openmoko-sample sample-main.o -lmokoui2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 - lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 - lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgconf-2 -ldbus-glib-1 - ldbus-1 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 mkdir .libs libtool: link: cannot find the library `/space/fic/openmoko-daily/ neo1973/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/pango-1.18.3-r0/ pango-1.18.3/pango/libpangoft2-1.0.la' or unhandled argument `/space/ fic/openmoko-daily/neo1973/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ pango-1.18.3-r0/pango-1.18.3/pango/libpangoft2-1.0.la' make[2]: *** [openmoko-sample] Błąd 1 make[2]: Opuszczenie katalogu `/home/goldie/moko/projects/openmoko- sample/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Błąd 1 make[1]: Opuszczenie katalogu `/home/goldie/moko/projects/openmoko- sample' make: *** [all] Błąd 2 Using gentoo, if you need more info, please ask for it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems with building openmoko-sample with toolchain
I think there is a problem with your environment caused by various shell scripts you may have executed. If you have set up any of the scripts to run automatically, undo that. Start in a "clean" shell to do the toolchain activity. I had this problem but I cannot recall the prior activity I had done before starting the toolchain. When I started a new shell everything was fine. I did get a very similar traceback. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Łukasz Holetzke wrote: Hi, got my FR, now I want do build openmoko-sample on my machine and execute it on FR. I've read http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain and done step by step these instructions. I having troubles with ./autogen.sh. In the configure part, I've got: configure: loading site script /usr/local/openmoko/arm/site-config checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... yes checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking for gcc... ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc - march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details. Okay, no host. Then I run (or I'm doing something wrong) ./configure --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu && make After that: /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link ccache arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -std=gnu99 -Wall -pedantic - std=c99 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/ include/libmokoui2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom- linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm- angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/ arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/local/openmoko/ arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/ openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/ local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/glib-2.0/ include -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/ include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom- linux-gnueabi/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm- angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/ arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -isystem/ usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include - fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers - Os -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib -Wl,- rpath-link,/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib - Wl,-O1 -o openmoko-sample sample-main.o -lmokoui2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 - lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 - lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgconf-2 -ldbus-glib-1 - ldbus-1 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 mkdir .libs libtool: link: cannot find the library `/space/fic/openmoko-daily/ neo1973/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/pango-1.18.3-r0/ pango-1.18.3/pango/libpangoft2-1.0.la' or unhandled argument `/space/ fic/openmoko-daily/neo1973/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ pango-1.18.3-r0/pango-1.18.3/pango/libpangoft2-1.0.la' make[2]: *** [openmoko-sample] Błąd 1 make[2]: Opuszczenie katalogu `/home/goldie/moko/projects/openmoko- sample/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Błąd 1 make[1]: Opuszczenie katalogu `/home/goldie/moko/projects/openmoko- sample' make: *** [all] Błąd 2 Using gentoo, if you need more info, please ask for it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
vmware appliance for Xoo/Xephyr
The Wiki states that a vmware appliance exists for Xoo/Xephyr based development. I've not been able to locate it via search. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
