Re: No stylus on V1 release?
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:16:46AM +0800, Clare Johnstone wrote: Dear all, This frightens me in my role as mother, grandmother etc, i.e. a representative of the public to which you hope to sell this phone. Essentially any laser device powerful enough to be useful has no place in a home which may ever have children in it. (Even quite old ones). clare Hi Clare! I like it, that you think about this. But as all laser pointers are battery powered, what's about just not putting batteries in the stylus? Okay, you wont be able to use the torch, but if you feel better with a plain stylus without any extras? _Guessing_ from koen's unboxing the neo pictures, the batteries are shipped seperately, so you just don't install them in the first place and leave them in the box. As one of those few who don't own a laser pointer/torch thingy, I anyway wonder how long the batteries last... Elrond ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Device support / life (was: community issues)
Hi all and Wolfgang, On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:12:48AM -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: [...] The second cent is that many folks here are looking at the developer's phone as simply a way of getting the consumer's phone 6 months early. These people obviously have never used early rev. engineering hardware. My experience is that it normally has plenty of hardware bugs that can't be easily fixed by the software engineer. Sometimes a if the bug is simple a few blue-wires and a few trace cuts are all that is needed, but I can't imagine it will be practical for hundreds of phones located in the far corners of the world. I think developers buying the engineering samples should think of them as essentially disposable with a shelf-life of 6 months. Once the consumer device is out software tends to stop supporting some of the weirder quirks of the early engineering hardware and that hardware rev is essentially orphaned. I think, there are two things to look at there: 1) P0 phones: It was clear for nearly everybody, that the P0 phones are engineering hardware. At least I expected some hardware flaws and thus expected P0 developers to be experts in the embedded field. The P0 phones were free to them (modulo customs trouble). Which is IMHO the right thing for engineering samples. So, no getting the consumer's phone 6 months early here. 2) P1 phones a) I have not read anywhere, that the P1 phones will be expect hardware issues devices. And at least I did not have the impression, that FIC tries to trick us into being their hardware laboratory rats. I really hope FIC will either deliver proper hardware or be kind to people having paid $350. (Warranty is also next corner.) b) At P1 start software is a completely different story. Full stop. c) I really hope against and can't see the orphaning of older hardware. This is one of the base points of Sean: He doesn't want to buy a new phone, just because a new feature is out there (in this case out there in the software). He just wants to update the software and be happy. In a sense, the getting the consumer's phone 6 months early (modulo software!) seems true and I really hope for it being like this. If I missed something, or am just using wishful thinking can someone correct? Elrond ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Creating a SIP client for the OpenMoko
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:25:22AM -0700, Chuck Pareto wrote: I was thinking about getting a Sip phone to use with the Gizmo Voip service (my friend is using it and loves it), but then thought about creating a Sip/Voip client to run on the OpenMoko. Does anyone know if this would be possible? Can it be done exclusively in software? I don't know if this has already been covered in the forums so any response would be helpful. -Chuck Check out twinkle. It's one of the working soft phones for linux out there and uses most of the GNU voip stack AFAIK. Only drawback: It uses qt. If you give your neo network (by usb or bt), sip should work nicely. Elrond ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Idea: Protective Screen Foil
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 09:44:10AM +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia pi?tek, 9 marca 2007, Elrond napisa?: After talking to a few people on irc, it became obvious, that the screen is really superb. And to cite someone from irc: [...] you don't want to ruin that with fingerprints and scratches :-) So the obvious solution are screen protectors. I'm not very used to them, but I do think, they might be a good idea. My Phase0 phone came with screen protector applied Nice to hear, that the phone already includes one! (I need to open case and reapply protector to get rid of bubbles). As I'm not that used to protectors: Is it normal, that one has to open the case to reapply/replace it? I think three could be shipped in the box. From irc it seems, they're really cheap (in volume). Good screen protector does not need changing. On Zaurus SL-5500 I have Brando protector, on Zaurus C760 another Brando and they both looks OK after few years of usage. As Gabriel Ambuehl noted, I also think, that three for yearly replacement would come handy. Elrond ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Idea: Protective Screen Foil
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 01:37:52PM +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Friday 09 March 2007 13:22:55 Ian Stirling wrote: It's normal that you try to cut it to the exact right size, and then have a horrible task both replacing and removing it. I have never had much issue with replacing and removing then, then again I bought some custom tailored ones... Included ones would hopefully be custom tailored ones. Elrond PS: And to cite someone from irc: [...] you don't want to ruin that with fingerprints and scratches :-) That someone is wansti, who allowed me to cite him. Thanks. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Idea: Protective Screen Foil
Hi, After talking to a few people on irc, it became obvious, that the screen is really superb. And to cite someone from irc: [...] you don't want to ruin that with fingerprints and scratches :-) So the obvious solution are screen protectors. I'm not very used to them, but I do think, they might be a good idea. I think three could be shipped in the box. From irc it seems, they're really cheap (in volume). I personnaly wouldn't regret loosing the lanyard instead. (I wouldn't use it.) Elrond ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
