Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:58:38 +0100, Lowell Higley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:12 AM, William Kenworthy > wrote: > >> What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I >> want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... >> >> > Sorry to join the conversation so late but this is my favorite so far as a > FreeRunner replacement. There should be a public developer release soon. > I'd guess (based on the pricing of the Zii Egg Dev kit) a dev kit would be > a > little pricey (US$600 to US$800.) Although considering an unlocked Nexus > One is US$530... maybe not. All perspective I suppose. > > Zii Trinity <http://www.ziilabs.com/products/platforms/ziitrinity.aspx> Hi, First mail in a while that even catches my attention ! Thanks for that. Do you know if they provide open sourced drivers for their hardware ? Cheers, -- Marc-Olivier Barre XMPP ID : ma...@marcochapeau.org www.MarcOChapeau.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vote! Zimbra Mobile on the Openmoko
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > > I'd like to bring this poll to your attention: > > http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbrame-j2me-client/12642-vote-phones-zimbra-j2me-client.html > > For those that don't know, Zimbra is an awesome email/collaboration > suite, they're asking for people to vote on the next mobile platform > that their client will be released on. Zimbra on a FreeRunner would be > a Blackberry killer. I've put up a short blog post here: > > http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080623 I have a few doubts: 1. Is this FLOSS ? 2. Can't we have anything less CPU hungry than java ? __ Marc-Olivier Barre, MarcO'Chapeau. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A disturbance in the force?
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once today, while my FreeRunner was plugged in on USB, I tapped the screen > to wake it up, and it came up, but all the pixels in text were jiggly, as > though the screen were being refreshed at the wrong rate. When I called up > the qwerty keyboard, it appeared quite scrambled. > Sadly I didn't have a video camera trained on it at the time, and by the > time I whipped out my pocket video camera, it had gone into suspend mode; > when I hit the power button to awaken it, the problem was gone! > > I know it's not my eyesight :-) This really happened. But only once. > > I'll make sure I have the video camera handy in case it comes back, > although, recording a 640x480 video of the freerunner will be pretty grainy > and probably won't accurately show the problem (due to things like refresh > rates)... Sigh. I think I see what you mean. the same thing happens on my Asus laptop (ATI X700 graphic card) when I switch from the console to X. Sometimes the screen appears like what you'll get when using the wrong refresh rate on a CRT screen. switching again to and from a console makes it go away. Never knew what was causing it though. Driver issue or X issue ?... Regards, __ Marc-Olivier Barre, MarcO'Chapeau. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GSM] Geolocating
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Lucas Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello guys, > > during one of my presentation of the Openmoko project, I mentionned > the ability to know which GSM cell the Neo is connected to. This allows > some approximate geolocating, provided you know the position of the GSM > cells. It could be useful in an urban environment, where GPS isn't very > helpful (walls, narrow streets, etc.). Well the key concept here is "provided you know the position of the GSM cells". Now, you might try to call you operators customer support asking them "Hi, could you send me a copy of your hardware database please ?", but I doubt you would get a positive answer, *if* they even bother to answer... > Then another question arised: during a call, would it be possible to > know the GSM cell of the other phone? Is there a way to know this, even > if it requires Neos on both sides? Possible on the provider side. If that's possible in between phones... well, we're all screwed ;-) > I'm not a GSM expert, so I don't know how this works, does anyone here > have an answer? Would that be technically feasible for the Neo to > communicate its GSM CellId during a call, for instance for automatic > treatment on the other side? While that might be possible to send, you would still need the info from paragraph 1... __ Marc-Olivier Barre, MarcO'Chapeau. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OpenMoko team: > > It's crazy to consider shipping the GTA02v5 without the rework > to solve the current leakage issue. > > Yes, people are REALLY anxious to get this phone. But shipping > a few thousand of units that do not meet spec on standby time > is a Bad Idea. Yup. And if we've all been patiently waiting for *quite* a while, it was to get out hands on *Stable Hardware(tm)* and handle half finished software ourselves. Heck, what happened to that requirement in the meantime ? The worst part is, early adopters (devs and such) will be ONCE AGAIN getting bugged hardware. I've preordered on Trisoft at the beginning of the week, shall I cancel ? do we know what board we will get ? __ Marc-Olivier Barre, MarcO'Chapeau. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:45 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button and > LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner > hardware that I think they should be more visible. > > Summarizing, they say that the GTA02v6 hardware version fixes an hardware > bug that causes the LEDs to use about 150mW instead of 25mW. > Btw Werner Almesberger stated there that the first batch of GTA02 to be > sold will be composed by GTA02v5 phones while GTA02v6 hardware will be sold > only in a second phase. > The hardware differencies between the two versions [2] (I've updated with > this LEDs issue) don't seem so worthless since there are some power fixes > (not only this one). WTF ??? Great news. I booked a phone on Trisoft at the beginning of the week only to find that I'd be getting a v5 board with *A Hardware Design Issue*. Wasn't that exactly why we all waited to get our hands on a GTA02 ? wasn't the hardware meant to be stabilized ? sure we'll always find some bugs here and there, but 125mW extra power sucked by leds man, hardware power issues were meant to be *fixed* __ Marc-Olivier Barre, MarcO'Chapeau. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And "lossless" formats are a joke. They use such prodigious amounts > of storage space that there's really no point at all. Just use the > original media! And if you don't own the original media, you're > either a thief or you've been ripped off yourself. (Can you say, > "iTunes"?) You obviously do not understand much about audio. Please, try to speak about things you really understand What would that be ? I really have no idea... __ Marc-Olivier Barre, MarcO'Chapeau. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: topic for next community update [was Community Update Wed Feb 13 2008]
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:10 PM, JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi Michael > > Thanks for the update - here are some questions for the next one in a couple > of > weeks all just to keep the community amused til the _great day_ > arrives > and not more important than the internal work of you and the OpenMoko team... > > 1) General information about the Neo FreeRunner graphics capabilities. This > follows some comments I saw by raster and others in the IRC channel that > there > were some limiting issues. What is the comparison to Neo1973 gfx? This > may > relate to what target market you are going after for FreeRunner. This might be of interest : http://dodji.blogspot.com/2008/02/xglamo-x-server-of-neo-gta02-device.html __ Marc-Olivier Barre, MarcO'Chapeau. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bonus Order
On 7/20/07, Esben Stien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't there like a bonus order if you order 5 neos'?, for the whole family?;) I bet you want to run a cluster of portable jack servers ;-) I'm wondering if it's possible to rack mount NEOs... ______ Marc-Olivier Barre. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Filesystem layout standard?
ok, wrong button again ;-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Marc-Olivier Barre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jul 19, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Filesystem layout standard? To: Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 7/18/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Is there any documentation about a standard filesystem layout? For user data storage like music, videos etc. On Mac OS X there are pre-define folders for Movies, Music, Pictures and Applications. It would save a lot of time searching with file dialogs if a standard was proposed for applications. Example, an application which plays mp3s would look in Music by default. Well, there's FHS (file system hierarchy standard). But it more about the system than the user's music... I don't see the interest of a "My Picture" or a "My Music" folder. In fact, I tend to hate that way of doing things. And I think a lot of users will want to organise things the way they want... It wouldn't be a standard, it would be a bother. ______ Marc-Olivier Barre. -- __ Marc-Olivier Barre. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: price politics for hardware updates post-phase-1/2
On 7/17/07, Marco Barreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By the way, I was one of the people who posted to an earlier thread hoping for a board-only option in October, thinking it could be a sort of inexpensive hardware upgrade like you want. After more thought, however, it doesn't seem practical to me: the board is where most of the development/production cost goes, so ordering it without the screen/battery/case/etc. will save a bit but probably not even close to half the phone price. I'm just going to wait for phase 2 and buy my phone then. In the future, I guess I'll have to buy a new version if one comes out that I can't do without! Marco Hey, I was one of those guys too... Until I discovered I could use qemu to emulate the device. Then I came to the same conclusion as you. I'll do my dev work on the emulator till october. Moreover, I will need wifi for my project. No point in buying it right now for me. Cheers, __ Marc-Olivier Barre. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Not "the free phone" (was: Re: Again: Advertising thoughts
On 7/16/07, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about simply the youPhone, or uPhone? First thing I thought about when I saw youPhone was youTube... it seems a bit to obvious, sorry. __ Marc-Olivier Barre. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Not "the free phone"
Damn... hit reply, needed reply-to all ;-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Marc-Olivier Barre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jul 16, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Not "the free phone" To: Dirk Bergstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 7/16/07, Dirk Bergstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pius A. Uzamere II wrote: > I agree with your first sentence, but came up with precisely the opposite > conclusion! I think Freedom Phone would work extremely well in the US. The set of people who would want a "Freedom Phone" probably does not have much overlap with the set of people who would want an open source phone. "Freedom", at least in the US, has been even more violently co-opted than than "free phone"... ok, why not something totaly different from free, freedom and open? __ Marc-Olivier Barre. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
On 7/14/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rod Whitby writes: >Is there anyone who is involved in hardware development and seriously believes that the cost of an upgrade board (which necessarily will have all the stuff like the LCD attached to it, cause they are not end-user replaceable parts) will be any cheaper than the cost of a whole phone? Why won't the LCD be a user-replaceble part? It certainly was in my old Palm III; the screens I've encountered in the past have connected to their devices with a, well, connector! I think one can even see the connector on the mainboards photo... >The stuff that is not replaced is just some bits of plastic ... Also, of course, there won't be a need for a new microSD nor batteries... And the debug board, the antenna. Seriously, it does make a difference. Moreover, if some new boards had to be sent to the beta testers in a given country, that could all be sent at once and then dispatched by a local OpenMoko group. freight cost would also be a lot less. I do myself wonder if it is possible. I am tempted to buy my Neo now, but I'm not ready to pay a second phone in October to get the new functionalities. I'd rather wait... $450 is a lot of money, even though I can afford it. I'm sure the guys at OpenMoko are very busy right now shipping all the phones. I heard Sean mentioning that they were thinking about 'eventually' shipping spare parts separately. I sure we'll hear more about it later... __ Marc-Olivier Barre. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
