Kernel 3.x and Freerunner

[Mike Crash]

Hello,

last two years I was busy with other private stuff, now I have returned
to my old projects and also my Neo. I have completely rewritten my
software and I want to compile it for Neo. But new software is not
compatible with old kernel (for example udev).

I have tried to boot up Neo and what a surprice, everything works as 2
years ago. Only battery has half of capacity...

I want to ask if there was some progress in support of Neo Freerunner in
stock kernel. I still use old 2.6.29 with openmoko modifications, is it
possible to use kernel 3.13? I don't need phone functionality, only
display, audio and gps. I have looked around, there are some Neo stuff
in stock kernel, but I don't know, if it is usable. Please can anybody
tell me, what's the situation now? Have anybody tried new stock kernels?

Thank you

Mike



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MC Navi 0.3.3 released

[Mike]

Hello everyone,

there is new version of MC Navi 0.3.3, main changes are in osm2mcm converter,
especially in sea generation.

More info here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

I have converted some maps, download here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4

Hope someone find it useful.

Have a nice day

Mike

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Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released

[Mike Crash]

OK, version 0.3.2 is available for download at [1] and a testing map of
Cyprus is available at [2], I have also Czech republic, but it is not
actual, so I will regenerate it. Other maps are not available yet, although
the links were not deleted and I will update it through time.

I have already found one bug in coastlines generation, which prevent
conversion if Iceland, so expect new version soon.

[1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1
[2]
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4



Martin Jansa wrote
> 
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Mike Crash <mike@> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> please wait some time for new version, there are some major changes, that
>> make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines generation
>> and it seems to be a little complicated.
> 
> Is there some public repository where we can see the development and
> send patches against?
> 
> Do you have any estimate when new version will be finished or do you
> have patch for older version to support newer gpsd-2.96? There is few
> API changes:
> | mgps.cc: In function 'void mgps_process(gps_data_t*, char*, size_t,
> int)':
> | mgps.cc:73:35: error: 'struct gps_fix_t' has no member named 'eph'
> | mgps.cc:91:34: error: 'struct gps_fix_t' has no member named 'eph'
> | mgps.cc:113:19: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named
> 'satellites'
> | mgps.cc:121:21: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named
> 'satellites'
> | mgps.cc:121:66: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named
> 'satellites'
> | mgps.cc: In function 'void* mgps_thread(void*)':
> | mgps.cc:161:44: error: 'gps_set_raw_hook' was not declared in this scope
> | mgps.cc:166:36: error: 'gps_query' was not declared in this scope
> | mgps.cc:180:26: error: 'gps_poll' was not declared in this scope
> | mgps.cc: In function 'mgpsdata* mgps_init()':
> | mgps.cc:194:60: error: too few arguments to function 'int
> gps_open(const char*, const char*, gps_data_t*)'
> | /OE/shr-core/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/nokia900/usr/include/gps.h:1430:12:
> note: declared here
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Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released

[Mike]

Hi,

new version is on the track. It will support new gpsd with many other changes.
I'll make some testing tomorrow and if it will work reliably, I will release it.

Currently I don't use rcs, because I don't find it usefull as the only one on
the project. May be in future.

Mike


On 19/12/11 08:18, Martin Jansa wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Mike Crash  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> please wait some time for new version, there are some major changes, that
>> make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines generation
>> and it seems to be a little complicated.
> 
> Is there some public repository where we can see the development and
> send patches against?
> 
> Do you have any estimate when new version will be finished or do you
> have patch for older version to support newer gpsd-2.96? There is few
> API changes:
> | mgps.cc: In function 'void mgps_process(gps_data_t*, char*, size_t, int)':
> | mgps.cc:73:35: error: 'struct gps_fix_t' has no member named 'eph'
> | mgps.cc:91:34: error: 'struct gps_fix_t' has no member named 'eph'
> | mgps.cc:113:19: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named 'satellites'
> | mgps.cc:121:21: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named 'satellites'
> | mgps.cc:121:66: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named 'satellites'
> | mgps.cc: In function 'void* mgps_thread(void*)':
> | mgps.cc:161:44: error: 'gps_set_raw_hook' was not declared in this scope
> | mgps.cc:166:36: error: 'gps_query' was not declared in this scope
> | mgps.cc:180:26: error: 'gps_poll' was not declared in this scope
> | mgps.cc: In function 'mgpsdata* mgps_init()':
> | mgps.cc:194:60: error: too few arguments to function 'int
> gps_open(const char*, const char*, gps_data_t*)'
> | /OE/shr-core/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/nokia900/usr/include/gps.h:1430:12:
> note: declared here
> 
> Cheers,
> 

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Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released

[Mike Crash]

Hi,

please wait some time for new version, there are some major changes, that
make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines generation
and it seems to be a little complicated.

Otherwise try in MySQL simly with:
1. create user osm with password osm
2. create database osm and set permissions for user osm to access it
You  an use MySQL Administrator GUI for it, please refer to MySQL
documentation.

Mike


Davide Scaini wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> I have now some time to try to build some maps...
> but it's not clear to me how should I set up mysql:
> "In new version the convertor uses MySQL database to store the data.
> Previously it loaded all data to memory, so no large maps could be
> created.
> The connection to MySQL is done on local host, user and password is "osm",
> database is osm, so create corresponding schema and user account in MySQL.
> In future releases it could be possible to change it via command line
> parameters."
> So what should I type in my terminal :D I'm not so familiar with mysql ...
> thanks
> d
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Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released

[Mike Crash]

Martin Jansa wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 02:53:56PM -0700, Mike Crash wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> configure.ac is missing check for mysql and src/osm2mcm/db_mysql.cc
> depends on it.
> 
> Also hardcoded -L/-I paths ie in
> 
> src/osm2mcm/Makefile.am:
> osm2mcm_LDFLAGS = -lexpat -lm -rdynamic -L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient
> 
> some mysql_config magic would be nicer (at least for cross building).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Recipe added to shr-core and old OE too
> http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=commit;h=08a33257e885a905f6a0dfabf3adfbe32f08cd3e
> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=0655368e725c6847209f627009917deeff0f
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> 

You're right, but I don't know how to do it (there is no pkg-config for
mysqlclient and expat), so this is actually simpler way for me ... I will
fix it in future.

Mike


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MCNavi 0.3.1 released

[Mike Crash]

Hello, 

after long hard work new version of MCNavi is here. There is a lot of
changes, some functionality was removed (like tourist routes - will reappear
in future in better way) due to many code changes, change in map format,
change in converter, but more functionality was added. For example there is
possibility to save bookmarks, save and load route (can be opened as
standard GPX), save and load track logs, has faster routing, can show simple
itinerary etc. For more information go to [1].

This is still beta, not all is done and some functionality may not work as
expected. Currently I'm using it actively in car and on bike and it works
quite good fro me. Currently only map of Czech republic can be downloaded,
next version will add turn restrictions and (hope) stabilize map format for
all 0.3.x versions. After that, more countries will be available for
download (or on demand).

I have released previous public version more than one year ago, but I wanted
to release something usable, therefore the huge delay.

Currently only Debian version can be installed out of the box, needs fso-gps
and edje, but works with new libgps also. But you have to compile it
yourself.


[1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Mike Crash]

Please wait some time for new version with completely rewritten converter, it
will allow large areas, though currently I don't know anything about
conversion time.
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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Mike Crash]

Hi,

the output code looks good, but it seems that cities where not assigned to
country, so you have no cities and addresses (something with country
boundary).

There is new version 0.2.13 with some improvements in itinerary and routing.
This is only small update, the next big step is going forward - better map
conversion, also bigger maps and select of features in map.

Currently I use it successfully for navigation and orientation, there are
some features missing, but I will evolve it in future - slowly, only in
spare time...

Mike
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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Mike Crash]

Boundaries are needed for correct assigning of cities and addresses to
country. It is actually don't needed, if routing to address is not required.
The use of continent boundary extracts (from cloudmate) is needed, because
country extract has broken boundaries - the cut area sometimes splits them.

For large memory requirements - I'm currently working on more functionality
(itinerary, click routing etc.). In parallel I think about optimizing of map
and converting process. I need small map, so optimizing is not my current
priority. But it will be next step, as I do what I want to do :). Please be
patient (I have job and family).


Thomas Franck wrote:
> 
>> You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download
>> precomputed
>> boundary extract from
>> http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3
>> and then use with "-bi" option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is
>> too large
>> to fit into memory space)
> 
> Oh.. ic...  though, as I stated in the other mail.. I was under the
> impression that we needed the "continent" boundary to do countries..?
> does that mean we can use like germany boundary and do cities and areas?
> 
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RE: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Mike Crash]

undrwater wrote:
> 
> 
> is it possible to add more detail to your map conversion instructions?  I
> have tried several times to do a conversion for portions of the USA
> without
> success.
> 
> I believe the problems I've had relate to the difference between .osm and
> administrative.osm files.  
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Russell Dwiggins
> 
> 

All is here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

If you have problems with boundary data, download boundary OSM file from
Cloudmate at
http://downloads.cloudmade.com
e.g.
http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america/united_states/washington/washington.osm.administrative.bz2

I have not tried for US, there are only boundaries for states (e.g.
Washington), not the whole country, it may not have complete (closed
polygon) boundaries. Also you should skip the boundaries step, but this may
omit the addresses.

I will do some experiments with USA and Germany in the (near) future. The
development is not over, 0.2.11 is out with itinerary...



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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Mike Crash]

You forget -m switch, run it as

mcnavi -m belgium-map-12022010.mcm


Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> sounds cool... installed Debian package from your repository, and
> downloaded belgium map just for a try:
> 
> $> mcnavi belgium-map-12022010.mcm   
> Cannot open map
> 
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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Mike Crash]

I don't know, Germany is huge, so I have not even tried  to convert it. But
it would be possible to convert smaller area. As I finish some functionality
I need, the next step will be optimizing map conversion. My goal is to
convert the whole Europe in one map if possible.


Thomas Franck wrote:
> 
> On 09.06.2010 14:25, Mike Crash wrote:
>> 
>> I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
>> (hope) and have some improvements:
> 
> Nice.. Looking forward to it.. :)
> 
> 
>> This version needs new map, download at:
> 
> Do you think it would be possible to have a Germany map there, too?
> I tried creating/converting a map the other day, but that was no good..
> :P :(
> 
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MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Mike Crash]

Hi all,

I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
(hope) and have some improvements:
- added support for orchards
- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
- added GPS menu with satellites
- draw the street names

More info here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

This version needs new map, download at:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3
If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it is
old version. I will regenerate it in some days.

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Re: Mcnavi Maps

[Mike Crash]

Thank you, I have added the link to MC Navi description, hope it helps.

I have also released new version 0.2.8 with satellites/sky view. Now I'm
fighting with the bugs to make it stable and to show tourist ways on map.
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Re: osm2mcmap (for mcnavi)

[Mike Crash]

Error opening file! means it cannot open the file for reading, it has not
started to parse it.
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Re: MC Navi

[Mike Crash]

yes, I plan to add other toolkits in future, but the first will be bada
or windows. But this is very far future


On 04/09/2010 03:33 PM, arne anka [via Openmoko Public Mailinglists] wrote:
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> did you mix your algorithm inseparably with  
> illume/esomething/whatever-the-name? or would it be possible to add  
> another toolkit's interface to it?
> given the current state of navit on the n900, it would be interesting to  
> maybe create an qt interface and try to run it on the n900, too.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict

[Mike Crash]

Thank you, it would be nice

Good work

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict

[Mike Crash]

Hello,

for Debian users, estardict is packaged for Neo at this repository:

deb http://www.gps-routes.info/debian sid main

It works good with Longman dictionary, but I have tried with czech-english
dictionary [1], but it doesn't works, it says incompatible dictionary (or
something like that). But it seems like good stardict dictionary, or not?

[1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/stardict-english-czech
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Re: MC Navi

[Mike Crash]

It's up to everyone to try and cry.

But for me - I want functionality, that is not present in both navit and
tangogps. And I want functionality, that is not present in any navigation I
know.

1. Create route by clicking on crossroads - I need it for cycling (not
implemented yet)
2. Sport tester with stopwatch, distance meter and track log (running,
cycling), what I missing is pulse meter (what about bluetooth sensor?)
3. show tourist roads and cycle roads (not implemented yet)
4. switch different views of map  - car/cycle/foot/... (not implemented yet)
5. save and upload track logs to web
6. contours
and anything what I find usefull

I know, I'm at the beginning. And if someone finds it useful, I will be
glad.

And what about TangoGPS? Very good bitmap navigation, I use it too, but
needs large amount of data to download, hard to update maps, no navigation
at all etc.
And navit? On freerunner unusable, very slow redraw, very slow routing, ugly
voice, hard to extendible


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Re: MC Navi

[Mike Crash]

OK, MC Navi 0.2.6 was out and now 0.2.7 is out :)

What's new:
- bookmarks
- added chrono and distance meter
- improved gpx logging
- basic config file

Also some converted countries are for download.

More info here:

http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

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Re: MC Navi

[Mike Crash]

Yes, it is compatible with 2.90, just uncomment in mgps.h

#define GPSD_API_19 1

I will attempt to autodetect gpsd version, but it seems the version
number in gps.h is the same as in previous version, so currently I don't
know how

Mike


On 1.4.2010 11:17, Martin Jansa [via Openmoko Public Mailinglists] wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:31:12AM -0800, Mike Crash wrote:
>>
>> Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make
> maps
>> available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you
> need?
> 
> Hi, is new version compatible with gpsd-2.90?
> mcnavi is failing to build in shr feeds for almost a month :/
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/commun...@.../msg58389.html
> <http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg58389.html>
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Re: MC Navi released

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MC Navi

[Mike Crash]

Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
Just to know, what to do next...

Thanks

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Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

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Not this type, but I bought the cheapest one I have found and it works well.
See
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10
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Re: MC Navi released

[Mike Crash]

Zkus to zde:

http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3

I have improved convertor and fixed a lot of bugs, so soon will be new
version and also more maps for download.


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> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:47:55 -0800 (PST)
> Mike Crash <[hidden email]
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>>After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of
>>MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I
>>found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't
>>want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story).
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> Sounds cools, thank you!
> But Mike, kde je ceska mapa? :))
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Re: OM future

[Mike Crash]

OK, but this is not what I mean. Also I talk about hardware, not software.
The beginning of OM was because of FIC. We need a manufacturer, who can
refund manufacturing of samples and the final fabrication. Also look at
other devices and how many software there is for. There is a lot of software
for Neo ported from desktop, but on Neo unusable.
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Re: Mcnavi maps and ipk

[Mike Crash]

I plan to write script which will generate the maps and upload it to
gps-routes.info for download. Also it would be nice to package the maps as
deb and make a regular updates via apt-get. I'm only waiting for fixing the
bugs in osm2mcmap - so please be patient, there is much to do.

You can download only the boundaries data, which may be usefull now. If you
send me the IPK, i can add it to this site too.

And - for download is new version with some bugs fixed and some new
functionality.
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Re: OM future

[Mike Crash]

You talk something else than me. I didn't said anything about usage and
development, only about the phone. Take a today phone and try to use it as
GPS. In some hours you are out of battery, not very usable for a weekend in
nature. You say, that Neo is like laptop in 2000? Nope, on laptop you can
write documents, make programming etc. On neo you cannot. The small screen
is very limited.

Neo can be used as GPS, for access to internet (especially reading), book
reading, as MP3 player etc. But not as mobile office. If you are "clicker",
yes, but for real work no.

Also consider the open source community - it has not the power to take the
lead. And no power to make really open phone. Not without any involvement of
some big manufacturer.
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Re: OM future

[Mike Crash]

Actually, I don't know, why everybody needs a phone. The community should aim
at simple PDA with GPS, WiFi, BT and camera. This all is without any license
fees and can be made to work. The phone is nice, but do you really need such
a device, where you can navigate in car/outdoors and in the same time take a
call? I will prefer a simple small commercial phone with other such device.
If I drive in car, I don't need WiFi, just a GSP, if I'm outdoors, I need
GSP, if I'm in restaurant, I need WiFi, if I'm in bus stop, I need BT to
connect to my phone with GPSR. I need only one such a function at a time,
but what I need always - is a phone. I want to call when I'm in a car, in a
bus stop, in a restaurant, in a wood and I don't want to break my
navigation, mailing, browsing every time I get a phone.

A phone has wifi and GPS as a nice option, but to have separate device with
all that functionality is much more usable. I'm using Neo as PDA without sim
card. I'm glad how it works - in last update to xorg 7.5 the glamo works
very well and fast. EFL is very fast on that, GTK is worse. We should aim at
software now.

The next step should be to make nice PDA device with GPS, WiFi and BT and
with OLED display (LCD is out). Camera would be nice, but not needed. Forget
the phone, it will be always problem for open source.

There is not big problem in designing such a device. And also, it will have
longer life then a phone. But - will there be enough people, who will buy
it? It needs to manufacture thousands of units - so thousands of buyers.
Will be? If yes, we can design such a device and I will be first, who will
start to draw a schematic. 

We can create a phone as a next step in the future, but not now. This is a
very bad idea.
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Re: MC Navi released

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You should download only boundaries extracts from Cloudmate, not the whole
Europe

http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/europe.osm.administrative.bz2


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Re: MC Navi released

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Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Sander van Grieken 
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so
>> I can't test
>> myself, but maybe it's of use to someone.
>>
>> see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
> 
> Installed OK, now I'm trying to use it (well, actually I installed the
> 64-bit deb on my desktop to run the map making faster..)
> 
> http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1
> 
> Do I get correctly that I first download
> http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G)
> to be able to run
> osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm
> to create the boundary data.
> 
> Then I download
> http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/finland.osm.bz2 (67M)
> to create the map:
> osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm map.osm
> 
> Let's see if my 2G of mem +2G of swap is enough :)
> 
> 4.5 hours to go to download europe.osm.bz2..
> 
> r
> 
> 

That's right, exchange map.osm with the actually map file name
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Re: MC Navi released

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> "Omlouváme se, ale tato sekce je p#ístupná pouze pro administrátory" 

There is a flag to switch to english language on gps-routes.info

> Failed to fetch
> http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc 
> Hash Sum mismatch
> Failed to fetch
> http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz 
> Hash Sum mismatch 

I have uploaded dists directory to wrong directory on ftp server (to dists
itself), so it doesn't match, I have fixed it and it should work now

> Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR? 

For SHR I have no binaries, it needs to recompile with different libraries.
I work on Debian so I provide only Debian packages. 

> I can't install it on qtmoko: 

You need E17 EFL's, it will not work on qtmoko

> Do you use the same bin format as navit? 

No, I'm using different, because it works entirely different than navit. It
was my first attempt to speed up navit, but I have gave up - hard to change
other's code

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Re: MC Navi released

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Yes, I used reprepro too, but the result uploaded to FTP. May be I was missed
something when uploading. is there a way to sync local directory to FTP?
Also it would be nice to sign the repository.
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Re: MC Navi released

[Mike Crash]

Ooops, no surprise, always goes something wrong :)

I have fixed the unreachable page.
For compile you need libimlib2-dev and yes, it is missing in dependencies, I
will correct it in next release.

For repository - this is my first repository, so it may not be right - I
have tried only the binary, not the source. I will try to fix it through the
weekend. Download it from downloads section if it doesn't work.

I'm preparing for some countries downloads.
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MC Navi released

[Mike Crash]

After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC
Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some
bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the
release, because it is never-ending story).

So if somebody wants to try, all information is on [1]. I have moved it to
other site, because here is also Debian repository. Download source code and
packages for Debian armel/i386/AMD64. 

[1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

[Mike Crash]

No
Yes
Debian
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Re: Touchscreen calibration with evdev

[Mike Crash]

Great, it works, than you very much

Díky

Mike



> 
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> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/shr/89xTs_Calibrate
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Touchscreen calibration with evdev

[Mike Crash]

I have upgraded my Debian system on GTA02 and found, that the new udev is not
compatible with current kernel in Debian. So I have compiled andy kernel and
also upgraded the X.org server with new version. All works fine, but I have
found, that new X is not using tslib, it loads simply evdev for touchscreen:

(II) config/udev: Adding input device "s3c2410 TouchScreen"
(/dev/input/event1)
(**) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": always reports core events
(**) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": Device: "/dev/input/event1"
(II) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": Found absolute axes
(II) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": Found x and y absolute axes
(II) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": Found absolute touchscreen
(II) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": Configuring as touchscreen
(**) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10,
EmulateWhee
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device ""s3c2410 TouchScreen"" (type:
TOUCHSCREEN)
(**) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
(**) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": (accel) acceleration profile 0
(II) "s3c2410 TouchScreen": initialized for absolute axes.

But the calibration is gone and I don't know, how to calibrate it. At least
X and Y axis are reversed. I have tried this in xorg.conf, but it doesn't
help (it seems the section was not recognized):

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Touchscreen"
Driver  "evdev"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/event1"
Option      "AbsoluteScreen" "0"
Option  "XAbsoluteAxisMap"   "1"
Option  "YAbsoluteAxisMap"   "0"
EndSection

Does anybody know, how to calibrate the screen?

Thank you

Mike
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Re: Navigation

[Mike Crash]

This means that it is preview and not releasable yet. I know what it free
software - but it is up to author, when he makes releases. And if he makes
it at all. This is only to know, that it is not sleeping.

So please don't be fidgety - I have spent on this 7 months, every day 2-3
hours, many times to late night (to 2 am) and I can thank god I have so
lovely family to allow that. This is true for other my projects too. Why
don't I buy navigation for 200 bucks instead of spending my rare time that
would cost by the way my employer thousands? With no donations and no
gratitude. Anyway, I should slow down...



Neil Jerram wrote:
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> 2010/1/3 Mike Crash :
>>
>> Happy new year everyone!
>>
>> If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi:
>> http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=116
> 
> This is nice news, but what is it with the "sorry, no source code yet"
> thing?
> 
> Mike, I don't actually mean to complain at you in particular.  It
> seems to me that a lot of people write something like that, especially
> with their early releases.  I just don't understand why, and I'm
> afraid that your post has pushed me over the edge into saying
> something about it.  Do people not know what Free Software means?
> 
> (Plus it's not hard to find a way of hosting source code...)
> 
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Re: Navigation

[Mike Crash]

Happy new year everyone!

If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi:
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=116

Currently not for usage, only as preview for Debian users.


Mike Crash wrote:
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> Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new
> navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi, but may change.
> Screenshots here:
> 
> http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=115
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Re: Navigation

[Mike Crash]

This is not a good idea. Rendering such amount of data will take a (long)
while, also there si problem where to save it (little memory and slow card),
also you need any map angle at any time. And rendering speed is not a big
problem, it seems to work fine (or at least satisfactorily).


Yorick Moko wrote:
> 
> might be an idea worth considering:
> 
> have the possibility to calculate a route, and pre-render the bitmaps of
> your route (at a few zoom-levels)
> This way it doesn't have to be done on the fly when you know for example
> where you are going to travel to
> when you don't follow the planned route it will of course render new files
> when nescessary
> 
> you should also have the option to delete them afterwards of course
> 
> or maybe a setting "two way trip";
> this setting wil save all the rendered files on your way to your
> destination,
> use the pre-rendered images on your way back, and ask you if you want to
> delete them when you return home
> 
> 
> just an idea
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Mike Crash  wrote:
> 
>>
>> Sure I'm using speed data from OSM and if not available, set it based on
>> way
>> type and common speeds. I can find shortest and fastest path. No
>> detection
>> if road is in the city yet.
>>
>> I made some progress in last days and I'm going to use it for the first
>> time
>> to drive home today :)
>>
>>
>> Bastian Muck wrote:
>> >
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>> >> I use A* for routing, it is usable, but still not what I expect.
>> >> But I have some improvements in my mind :) I need to create
>> >> rerouting now and to test it in real life
>> >
>> > I don't have any idea, how the code looks like, but I guess, that you
>> > use gps-positions as heuristic and distances as edge-weights. That
>> > means that you always get the shortest path. If you want  to get the
>> > fastes path, then you have to use timevalues calculated by possible
>> > speed and edge-length. With openstreetmaps that can be difficult,
>> > because many roads don't have any speedsproperties. You often only can
>> > use the roadtype depending on country to guess the speed.
>> > Maybe you used this, but in a first shit, I guess that you don't.
>> >
>> > I hope these ideas can help you improving your tool.
>> >
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Re: Navigation

[Mike Crash]

Sure I'm using speed data from OSM and if not available, set it based on way
type and common speeds. I can find shortest and fastest path. No detection
if road is in the city yet.

I made some progress in last days and I'm going to use it for the first time
to drive home today :)


Bastian Muck wrote:
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> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>  
> Mike Crash schrieb:
>> I use A* for routing, it is usable, but still not what I expect.
>> But I have some improvements in my mind :) I need to create
>> rerouting now and to test it in real life
> 
> I don't have any idea, how the code looks like, but I guess, that you
> use gps-positions as heuristic and distances as edge-weights. That
> means that you always get the shortest path. If you want  to get the
> fastes path, then you have to use timevalues calculated by possible
> speed and edge-length. With openstreetmaps that can be difficult,
> because many roads don't have any speedsproperties. You often only can
> use the roadtype depending on country to guess the speed.
> Maybe you used this, but in a first shit, I guess that you don't.
> 
> I hope these ideas can help you improving your tool.
> 
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Re: Navigation

[Mike Crash]

I use A* for routing, it is usable, but still not what I expect. But I have
some improvements in my mind :) I need to create rerouting now and to test
it in real life

Someone asked why not to improve navit - this was my first shot. But ... I
found it a little complicated, it needs some parts totally to rewrite and
also I like control of the source code, not to depend on someone else. Also
I write it very different and plan to replace not only navit, but also
create outdoor navigation with tourist marks, cycle routes and contours, but
it is far future

It needs also more optimisations to map render, to map format, to GUI etc...
ohh and it uses binary format of cause



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> which alorithm do you use? A* or just the slow Dijkstra as Navit does?
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> Mike Crash schrieb:
>> Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new
>>  navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi, but may
>> change. Screenshots here:
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Navigation

[Mike Crash]

Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new
navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi, but may change.
Screenshots here:

http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=115

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Re: WikiReader

[Mike Montour]

Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> Sales start today at http://thewikireader.com. Enjoy. Tell your
> friends. And let us know what you think!

My first impression of the device - it's a Palm IIIx with 1000 times 
more storage, but poorer connectivity and fewer applications.

I have an electronic subscription to a couple of science-fiction 
magazines which I currently read on my old Palm IIIx. It's showing its 
age so I have been looking for a replacement for a while now. The 
Wikireader (with its sunlight-readable screen and AAA batteries) would 
fit this category as soon as an e-book reader application is available. 
Some other PDA applications like a calculator and a memo pad would be 
nice but I can live without them.

If/when an e-book application is developed, it would be nice to have an 
SD-card image of the Project Gutenberg archive.

I also have a question - what happens to equations and graphs in 
Wikipedia articles (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessel_functions)? 
Are equations rendered graphically or are they only shown in markup 
language? Are SVG images supported?


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eneolock screen locker

[Mike Crash]

If someone interested, I have created new screen locker inspired by ZedLock.
More info and download here:

http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=114
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Re: [debian] eneoset

[Mike Crash]

Yes I'm using Debian with Illume, my compiled version. But there is no setup
utility in Debian for E, so I have used python version from OM2008
previously.

Current limit is problem, if I connect charger, I can decrease current to
500mA, but it is not possible to increase it again to 1A. it is kernel
stuff, not application specific. It is missing something like
force_usb_limit_dangerous as on 2.6.24


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> On Thursday 16 July 2009 14:05:53 kimaidou wrote:
>> Great stuff, though I do not understand why your title begins with
>> [debian]. It seems to me with the screeshots that you are running SHR.
>> I can be wrong.
> 
> On his page he says he is running illume on debian. 
> I also didn't know it was possible :)
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[debian] eneoset

[Mike Crash]

May be someone will be interested, I was not satisfied with the setup utility
for Neo written in Python, because it was slow and changing backlight
brightness was only in 4 steps. So i have created small utility with ELM
named eneoset, which can change backlight, turn on or off bluetooth and
Wi-Fi and can change USB device/host mode. Changing USB current limit still
doesn't work. It needs kernel version 2.6.29 (may be 2.6.28 too, but not
tested), so don't try it on 2.6.24.

http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10 Download
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Re: at command

[Mike Montour]

Test wrote:
>  
> I am playing w/ some AT commands. If you know what are these AT commands 
> for? let me know, and also how to use them?

AT+CLVL sets the audio output volume from the Calypso (see for example 
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2121).

I don't know about the others but one of the references linked from 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands might have some 
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Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner

[Mike Montour]

a dehqan wrote:

> An important question about GPS signals ,Is not IRAN far from The
> satellite that sends signals ?will not signals be weak in Iran ?How
> can we be sure that GPS antenna is not needed in open area in Iran ?

The main GPS satellites are in circular orbits around the earth, so the 
signal quality in Iran will be the same as any other place at a similar 
latitude (assuming that the US government isn't doing anything to 
intentionally degrade the signal in your part of the world).

You are likely to be out of range of the geostationary "WAAS" satellites 
that broadcast additional information, but these signals are not 
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Re: [Debian] Chronometer

[Mike Crash]

I have released new version based on Elementary named echrono - faster
startup and nicer interface, if someone interested, he will find it again on
http://www.mikecrash.com
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Re: First SSH to FR: Permission denied

[Mike]

Yes! I did connect! I had to use the advanced method (reading USB Networking 
wiki thoroughly and completely helps :) ). 

A few questions remain:

1) how to disable auto suspend: I saw it somewhere in the wiki but cannot find 
anymore;

2) I have just flashed my firmware using uSD cards (I got to green "done" 
which was very hard to read, and "ANGSTROM"). using this file 
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-
image.tar.gz
So,
cat /proc/cpuinfo gives

Hardware: GTA02
Revision: 0360

is this the latest firmware version?

Thank you for all your time and help!

Mike.

On Wednesday 10 June 2009 20:27:14 The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> If the terminal is installed on the phone, run it and type "passwd" to set
> your password. Then SSH in with it. If the terminal isn't installed, then
> is there a GUI package manager? If not, IDK. :P



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Re: First SSH to FR: Permission denied

[Mike]

I am now trying 192.168.0.202 and have no response. In fact, I get:

ping -I usb0 192.168.0.202
PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) from 192.168.0.200 usb0: 56(84) bytes of 
data.
>From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
>From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
>From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
>From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
>From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable
>From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable
^C
--- 192.168.0.202 ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 0 received, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 8147ms
pipe 3

but 

ifconfig -a 

eth0 ...
...

usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr DE:D7:63:45:48:6B
  inet addr:192.168.0.200  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Mask:255.255.255.0
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)


my firewall is off and I added "192.168.0.202 om" to /etc/hosts

On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:47:35 Korbinian Rosenegger wrote:
> Hi
>
> Try 192.168.0.202, the IP you tried is your desktop :)
>
> I've also done this many times until i added this line to /etc/hosts on
> my desktop:
>
> 192.168.0.202 om
>
>
> cu Korbi
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> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 20:17 -0500, Mike wrote:
> > Hello --
> >
> > I just got the FR. Very nice! I am trying to SSH to FR to check the
> > firmware version. I can ping 192.168.0.200 with 0% loss. However, when I
> >
> > ssh r...@192.168.0.200
> >
> > and enter either blank  (as suggested in the Wiki) or "root" password at
> > the prompt I get "Permission denied, please try again."
> >
> > What is the problem?
> >
> > Thank you for your time,
> >
> > Mike.
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Re: First SSH to FR: Permission denied

[Mike]

Thanks for the suggestion --

I changed the password to blank and restarted FR, but that did 
not work, unfortunately. 
 
any other ideas?

The Digital Pioneer wrote:

> If the terminal is installed on the phone, run it and type 
"passwd" to set
> your password. Then SSH in with it. If the terminal isn't 
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First SSH to FR: Permission denied

[Mike]

Hello --

I just got the FR. Very nice! I am trying to SSH to FR to check the firmware 
version. I can ping 192.168.0.200 with 0% loss. However, when I 

ssh r...@192.168.0.200

and enter either blank  (as suggested in the Wiki) or "root" password at the 
prompt I get "Permission denied, please try again."

What is the problem?

Thank you for your time, 

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Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?

[Mike]

Thanks, Ben --

I just got the SIM card from T-Mobile, the uSD card and the FreeRunner! we'll 
see how it goes!

On Monday 08 June 2009 03:55:35 Ben Wong wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Mike wrote:
> > Thanks, Rene --
> >
> > I just ordered the freerunner -- very exciting!
>
>   Excellent.  You may want to check the GSM firmware version when you
> get it.  I received my phone recently and it had an old firmware on it
> (version 8 instead of 11, I think).  The phone mostly worked, but I
> couldn't do GPRS until I flashed the GSM firmware.
>
> Here's the page for how to update it:
>
>   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
>
> Note that, although the web page describes the procedure as a
> lobotomy, it's not nearly so scary, even using the step-by-step
> method, which I did.  Even easier, there's a microSD image you can
> download that automates the procedure for you.
>
>   By the way, the advice to just buy a SIM card instead of a whole
> plan is the right one.  That way you won't be locked into a year long
> contract.  I'm using T-mobile and it works great; data is unlimited
> and the price is fair.  I've heard T-mobile's coverage is not as good
> as AT&T's in the US, but it hasn't been a problem for me.  My only
> complaint is that ping times are often over 1000ms, and I'm not even
> sure that that's T-mobile's fault.
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Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?

[Mike]

No problem, Jeremy --

I have been using Linux on my desktop (Mandrake/Mandriva) for 10 years now. 
Thanks for the tip about the SD card! I'll read the wiki and ask here what I 
still can't understand.

Thanks!


On Sunday 07 June 2009 23:05:09 jeremy jozwik wrote:
> it is exciting, but for a bit you will be very confused. i know i was. next
> step for you if you dont already have it is setup a machine with linux.
> that is a 100% must have. make sure you get a beefy mini sd card too!
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Mike  wrote:
> > Thanks, Rene --
> >
> > I just ordered the freerunner -- very exciting!
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Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?

[Mike]

Thanks, Rene --

I just ordered the freerunner -- very exciting!

Mike.

On Sunday 07 June 2009 19:27:46 Rene Horn wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Damian Spriggs 
wrote:
> > 1) Is there any particular kind of wireless carrier (in US) I need to
> > subscribe to?
> >
> > Any that use a SIM card. So AT&T or T-Mobile. (I use AT&T just fine)
>
> Slightly off.  It also needs to be a GSM network.  Right now, that's only
> AT&T & T-Mobile for the US.
>
> > 2) Do I need to tell the carrier that I shall be using a linux-based
> > phone?
> >
> >
> > Nope. It's a good idea not to tell them. There is nothing that they need
> > to do other than give you service.
>
> Neither AT&T nor T-Mobile care.  You can ask them for just the SIM card.  I
> did.
>
> > 3) Can I use Nextel or ATT and T-mobile are my only national carrier
> > options?
> >
> > Not 100% sure, but I don't think Nextel phones use SIMs. I may be wrong
> > though.
>
> Yes they do, but they don't do GSM.
>
> > 4) How do I get a SIM card for the phone?
> >
> > When you sign up for service, they will give you one, usually in a free
> > phone. All you need to do is pull the SIM out of the phone and install it
> > in the Freerunner
>
> No, just ask for a SIM card.  It's actually cheaper.
>
> > 5) Can I text (SMS) -- I intend on using Qtopia at the beginning?
> >
> > Yep, Texting works on all major distros
> >
> >
> >
> > 6) Can I sync addresses etc with my desktop?
> >
> > I haven't done it personally, but I've seen maillist threads describing
> > the process.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been using Sprint (CDMA) -- so I am quite unfamiliar with the GSM
> > world
> > (and a phone that does not come with the service) -- I would appreciate
> > any
> >
> > (obvious) tips on how to get from buying the FreeRunner to making and
> > receiving calls and text messages.
> >
> >
> > Your best bet would be a good, thorough read through of the wiki[1].
> > There is a plethora of introductory information. If you still have
> > questions, try the friendly maillists or IRC channels.
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
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Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?

[Mike]

Thank you, Robin and Damian! 

I know how it works now. Another question: Shall I be able to keep my cell 
phone number?

Thanks again for your time!





On Saturday 06 June 2009 22:39:11 Damian Spriggs wrote:
> > 1) Is there any particular kind of wireless carrier (in US) I need to
> > subscribe to?
>
> Any that use a SIM card. So AT&T or T-Mobile. (I use AT&T just fine)
>
> > 2) Do I need to tell the carrier that I shall be using a linux-based
> > phone?
>
> Nope. It's a good idea not to tell them. There is nothing that they
> need to do other than give you service.
>
> > 3) Can I use Nextel or ATT and T-mobile are my only national carrier
> > options?
>
> Not 100% sure, but I don't think Nextel phones use SIMs. I may be
> wrong though.
>
> > 4) How do I get a SIM card for the phone?
>
> When you sign up for service, they will give you one, usually in a
> free phone. All you need to do is pull the SIM out of the phone and
> install it in the Freerunner
>
> > 5) Can I text (SMS) -- I intend on using Qtopia at the beginning?
>
> Yep, Texting works on all major distros
>
> > 6) Can I sync addresses etc with my desktop?
>
> I haven't done it personally, but I've seen maillist threads
> describing the process.
>
> > I have been using Sprint (CDMA) -- so I am quite unfamiliar with the
> > GSM world
> > (and a phone that does not come with the service) -- I would
> > appreciate any
> > (obvious) tips on how to get from buying the FreeRunner to making and
> > receiving calls and text messages.
>
> Your best bet would be a good, thorough read through of the wiki[1].
> There is a plethora of introductory information. If you still have
> questions, try the friendly maillists or IRC channels.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org
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How to get started with Openmoko phone?

[Mike]

Hello --

I would like to use a Linux-based open-hardware phone for my phone 
communications. I would like to try Neo Freerunner. How do I do that? Namely:

1) Is there any particular kind of wireless carrier (in US) I need to 
subscribe to? 

2) Do I need to tell the carrier that I shall be using a linux-based phone? 

3) Can I use Nextel or ATT and T-mobile are my only national carrier options?

4) How do I get a SIM card for the phone?

5) Can I text (SMS) -- I intend on using Qtopia at the beginning?

6) Can I sync addresses etc with my desktop?

I have been using Sprint (CDMA) -- so I am quite unfamiliar with the GSM world 
(and a phone that does not come with the service) -- I would appreciate any 
(obvious) tips on how to get from buying the FreeRunner to making and 
receiving calls and text messages.

Thank you for your time --

Mike.

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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge

[Mike Montour]

Cameron Frazier wrote:

> Ahh, ok.  Now things seem to be working correctly.  One question though
> what are the differences between usb_curlim and chg_curlim?  I'm not
> sure I fully understand what chg_curlim represents. 

chg_curlim controls the battery charger, while usb_curlim controls the 
total current that can be drawn from the USB port (charging + the 
current used by the Freerunner). The PCF50633 datasheet (linked from 
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge

[Mike Montour]

Cameron Frazier wrote:

> Does anyone know what the current means are to force fast charging at
> 500mA and could they share it with the list?

I don't know if there's a dbus/frameworkd way to do it, but the direct 
method is:

echo 500 > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/usb_curlim


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Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

[Mike Montour]

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> AT%CTVZ=1 just enables the unsolicited result code. There is no way to 
> actually _query_ the time from the network.

I don't know what method it uses but my Nokia 3500 phone gets the 
current time+date automatically (operator is Fido in Canada). I've 
tested this by manually setting an incorrect value and then 
power-cycling the phone, and it goes back to the correct time as soon as 
it boots up.

I did a quick test with 'mickeyterm' on my Freerunner and I haven't seen 
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Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros

[Mike Montour]

David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:

> Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs
> at www.tuxbrain.com/shop

Do you ship to Canada, and if so what are the costs + payment options? 
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Re: [Debian] Chronometer

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Uploaded new version with implemented lap counter, but i have forget to remove 
\r in sources, may be later :|
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[Debian] Chronometer

[Mike Crash]

Just a notice, if someone looking for stopwatch, i have created one, packaged 
for Debian.

http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=103
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Re: how do i turn the phone off?

[Mike Montour]

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> Universal phone shutdown instructions (works on any distro):
> 1. Remove back panel
> 2. Remove battery
> 3. Replace battery
> 4. Replace back panel
> Done!

0. Unplug the USB power cable. The FR is capable of operating without a 
battery (although GSM and some other bits are not).

The correct answer is of course to open a terminal and enter the command 
"shutdown -h -P now".  :)


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Re: Internal speakers: Stereo or mono?

[Mike Montour]

arne anka wrote:
> neo1973 had stereo, freerunner never had (and afair was never supposed to).

IIRC the second speaker was removed from the Freerunner to make space 
for the WiFi module.


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Re: Is "SIM Toolkit" possible to support on the freerunner?

[Mike Crash]

Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2009, 14:13 +0100 schrieb Helge Hafting:
> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> > Technically, SIM toolkit support is possible with the Calypso.
> > 
> > I have commented previously about this, so please look my older posts
> > up; In a nutshell, STK is a heavy cross-layer spec, so adding it would
> > need quit some thought.
> > 
> > FSO will not work on it, but appreciate patches.
> 
> Is there hope of getting the necessary documentation for the gsm device 
> in the freerunner? With a license that doesn't stand in the way of 
> making a open-source app based on it?

If you're interested in doing this, I'm sure we can work this out.

> STK itself seems to be documented on the net, but each gsm device seems 
> to do this differently. There is no standard on how to communicate STK 
> to/from a gsm device.

Correct. While the STK commands are thorougly documented in the specs, the AT 
commands are device-specific.
I can collect the Calypso-specific information you need -- if you want to work 
on that.

:M:




May be there should be some daemon to STK - like fso-stk and runnable GUI for 
menu, because it should respond to STK events - incoming message from bank etc

what we need is documentation, how restricted is NDA - and for who? people 
outside of company?

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Re: Is "SIM Toolkit" possible to support on the freerunner?

[Mike Crash]

My vote: don't implement STK, or at least disable it by default.
I don't like my SIM to do any "program execution"
/j



My vote: implement it, banking is part of mobile communication like calls and 
sms with the same relevance, for me it is the one and only thing, that make me 
not use neo as phone but PDA only
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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

[Mike Montour]

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:

> I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko.
> 
> I do not know why he left (and it is not my business anyway), but
> I know since Andy was at Openmoko the kernel side began
> to form shape, and got things work. (suspend? anyone?)

You should have stopped here IMHO. It really is none of our 
(community's) business, and it would be a lot more productive to just 
focus on the question of "where do we go from here?"


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Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended

[Mike Montour]

Ed Kapitein wrote:

> I am also looking for a way to make data calls, do you know of any other
> method of making a data call with the FR?
> ( direct AT commands to the modem etc)[...] 
> All pointers are welcome!

First you need to make sure that your GSM carrier supports CSD (mine 
doesn't AFAIK) and that it is activated on your account.

In the past people have mentioned that the Calypso performs similarly to 
an "Enfora Enabler" modem and there is some web-accessible documentation 
for that. The "AT+CBST" (select bearer service type) command seems to be 
involved.

There's probably some overlap between the CSD commands and the ones used 
for GPRS so I would also look at 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS


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Re: date and GPS related questions

[Mike Montour]

Fernando Martins wrote:

> 1) I got the date reset to 1970 a few times. I was not paying attention 
> but I guess this happens when battery is removed, i.e., there's no 
> battery specific for the clock?

There is a backup battery. Make sure that the system time is being saved 
to the hardware clock, e.g. "hwclock --utc --systohc".


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Re: [debian] e17 - questions

[Mike Crash]

Hope this helps

http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=21

there is one bug - missing keyboard and dict data, just copy it to
/usr/share/enlightenment/modules/illume
i will fix it in next build

One more question:
i'm looking for backlight gadget like mixer, exists something like that? 
i don't want to use exposure, because it is slow and has only 3 backlight
levels
if there is no, i'll try to make it, but hmm i have no experiences with e
programming :(
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Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

[Mike Crash]

Paul Fertser wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder why nobody from the complaining has provided a usb debug log
> yet? Most probably with this log the issue can be fixed by upstream
> maintainer in a week or less. And yet nobody did that. Just get a
> debug log, shouldn't be that hard.
> 
> But as nobody needs it, nobody fixes it, obviously.
> 
> 

How to get any log, if windows machine hard reboots immediately after
connecting? We should wait for BSOD-fixed kernel in Debian...
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Re: [debian] compiling e17 for freerunner

[Mike Crash]

Davide Scaini wrote:
> 
> ...thanks mike, but i tried your all "old" packages with no success...
> i'll try this ones then i'll give you feedback.
> 
> Can you precise which bug?
> thanks Robert and Mike
> d
> 
> 

it was in ewl_engine_evas_fb.c in:

if (ev->double_click)
clicks = 2;
if (ev->triple_click)
clicks = 3;

What's you problem about the packages? May be you are missing some
dependencies?
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Re: [debian] compiling e17 for freerunner

[Mike Crash]

I have also no real problems compiling it. Only one bug in source, which i
have fixed locally and compiled, it seems for svn inconsistancy. You can
download it 
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=73&ttitle=Enlightenment_E17_Debian_armel_packages
here  packaged the Debian way.
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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

[Mike Crash]

Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> 
>> If someone interested, i have packaged e17 for debian, you can download
>> it on www.mikecrash.com
> 
> Maybe you are interested in helping debian pkg-e team in making official 
> packages?
> 
> 

Maybe, but i am not familiar with Debian way of packaging (looked at the
guide but it seems so difficult to join). Anyway for me is better to make
some programming, not to maintain packages.

I have compiled it for my usage and uploaded it, if somebody interested. Now
that there are official packages in debian, i have recompiled my versions to
be more friendly with it. And I also recommend to upgrade, because of some
notable bud fixes in SVN of E17.

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Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)

[Mike Crash]

Because the bass fix is not easy to fix. I can say it is very hard to fix,
because the series capacitor on the output of amplifier is located under the
metal plate and no large capacitor can be soldered here. I have fixed it
with connecting capacitors (220uF) outside PCB and creating hole in metal
plate. It is connected with wires, but soldering it on the PCB under the
crease of metal plate (located very close to border) is freak. And may be,
OM engineers have no courage to recommend it. But after implementation it
plays very good. But - i don't use it as phone so i don't know, if it has no
RF noise.


Yorick Moko wrote:
> 
> only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping
> to see that one documented as well
> I would hate to get two things fixed, and have to fix a third one a
> week later...
> 
> 

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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

[Mike Crash]

It is part of e17 svn (svn.enlightenment.org), so i have not uploaded it


Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> 
> But where's the source code for the debian packaging (the ./debian/
> subdirectory used with dpkg-buildpackage)?
> 

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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

[Mike Crash]

This is the same, only newer, source code from e17 official repo, i have
first compiled it when there was no e17 in debian repo, it will be sure
outdated soon, so you can forget it if there is working e17 in debian now


Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> 
> MIke Crash  writes:
>> If someone interested, i have packaged e17 for debian, you can download
>> it on
>> www.mikecrash.com
> 
> How does this relate to the existing e17 package that is in debian? [1]
> 
> Where's the source code to your packages?
> 

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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

[MIke Crash]

If someone interested, i have packaged e17 for debian, you can download it on
www.mikecrash.com
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Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

[Mike Montour]

Vasili Sviridov wrote:

> Thanks, what's the good version of NAND uBoot to flash?

I don't know - I haven't been keeping up-to-date with Openmoko 
development for several months. I'd try 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 
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Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

[Mike Montour]

Vasili Sviridov wrote:
> Ok, that made it even worse :(
> 
> Now I only have NOR uBoot and dfu-util still gives me only 1 alternate 
> there which is "USB Device Firmware Upgrade".
> Cannot flash the NAND uBoot, since dfu-util does not see the required 
> partition...

Don't pay too much attention to the "dfu-util -l" output - there are two 
different modes the device can be in, and in the default one you don't 
see the other alternate settings listed. When you run the dfu-util 
Download command it should automatically set the device into the 
required mode. If it fails then try running the exact same command a 
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Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

[Mike Montour]

Vasili Sviridov wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Since both my previous posts haven't helped me to fix my phone looks 
> like I need to devirginate it. Unfortunately I do not have the debug 
> board, and paying $100 + shipping is a bit steep for just one thing to do.
> 
> Is there anyone in Vancouver, BC that has one and willing to help me to 
> get my Moko working - please respond.

I have a v2 (Neo1973) debug board in Vancouver, but you shouldn't need 
it if you have a Freerunner with a working NOR u-boot.

I haven't read all of the previous messages in this thread so someone 
else might have already said this, but I would:
  - Boot into NOR u-boot
  - Erase the NAND ("nand erase" or "nand createbbt")
  - Exit from the u-boot console
  - Flash a new u-boot ("dfu-util -R -a u-boot -D /path/to/u-boot.bin")
  - Reboot into NAND u-boot, then enter the u-boot console
  - Execute "dynpart", "dynenv set u-boot_env", "saveenv" to set up the 
default environment variables
  - Reboot into NAND u-boot again
  - Download a new kernel + rootfs with dfu-util
  - Fix up the rest of your environment variables through the u-boot 
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Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about Openmoko

[mike]

btw, no, those are not subsidized prices... these are examples of
blackberries and treos that have recently been offered online by a
major us retailer (unlocked, so therefore not subsidized by any cell
service provider  ... they are prolly overstocks)

ummm, well, so
if there's anybody out there with a new or forerunner used that i could
buy for $50 (can pick up in south florida) please write me!  i'm dying
to test one out!  merry xmas.


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From: Tim Dobson 
Subject: Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about Openmoko
To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" 
Cc: wmichaeltr...@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:48 PM

Sargun Dhillon wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM, mike 
wrote:
>> ok, with all the old smartphones going on sale unlocked for as low as
>> $99-$149, how soon can i buy a moko for $99 (i'd prolly take
three)
>
> Those are subsidized prices. Sometimes you can get them used for $99.
> I never buy used phones as they usually are broken.

Umm It's not too hard to work out actually.

For the Neo 1973:
Find 3 current owners who aren't using it and make them an offer.

For the Neo Freerunner:
Wait til GTAv3 is released and then watch as the price of second hand
Freerunners plummet as all the developers and hackers upgrade...
For better or for worse, they all will. there's community for you.

Well... there's the answer. Don't ask me when GTAv3 will be released
though... :p

Tim
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Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about Openmoko

[mike]

ok, with all the old smartphones going on sale unlocked for as low as $99-$149, 
how soon can i buy a moko for $99 (i'd prolly take three)

mike



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Subject: [openmoko-announce] Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about Openmoko
To: annou...@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 3:33 AM


Dear Community

The other day I was working on a year-in-review letter when Minh (the
incredible "community update" author) ask me if I would be willing to
answer questions about community matters. "I would love to!" was my
response. What a relief, I thought to myself, as I was seriously stuck trying to
find the right words to describe all that happened in 2008.

So if you're interesting in taking part in this interview, please send your
questions to Minh. Nothing is off limits. Your questions will help me immensely
as I review what we have experienced and what meaning it holds for us moving
forward.

Happy holidays to all.

Sincerely,

Sean

PS: Below is Minh's original post:

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To:  community@lists.openmoko.org
Date:Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:43:13 +0100
Subject: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters


Dear friends,

Sean kindly agreed to be interviewed for the next edition of the Community
Update newsletter. I invite every subscriber of this list to post the question
or questions that s-he cares about most. No gloves. The general topic is
"Openmoko, the community, past-present-future", but yours truly will
select with undue care the 3-5 most interesting / provocative / popular /
relevant / funny / whatever and forward them to Sean next Monday. You may send
your questions in this mailing list thread or privately to me.

Minh

PS: Everybody knows that Sean Moss-Pultz is Openmoko CEO, but you may also be
interested to find that many of his past interviews are available here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko:Current_events
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Press_Coverage

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Re: uboot version? wiki not accurate

[Mike Montour]

Helmut Tessarek wrote:

> What is gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin?

The "lowlevel.bin" file is used with the debug board, to initialize the 
Freerunner so that you can upload a copy of u-boot into RAM over JTAG. 
If you don't have a debug board then you can ignore it.


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Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

[Mike Montour]

Alexander Frøyseth wrote:

> Does anyone know WHY it don't charge when it is off?
> My logic says that it is very important to have the option charge the 
> battery when it is flat.

I can't give you a simple answer. Charging is controlled by the PCF50633 
chip, based on configuration values that are written to it by u-boot, 
Linux, and userspace programs. Some of these settings are preserved 
across a power-cycle (the PCF50633 has a small backup battery that's 
also used to keep the RTC running) so the behavior at startup depends on 
the software that you used during your last session.

Another complication is that some Freerunners are capable of starting up 
without a battery while others are not (possibly due to different 
capacitor values on the internal power rails).

I can give a few hints:
- The current u-boot has a bug that means it will not properly charge 
from the wall charger. Try a USB cable into a PC instead.
- Try to boot into the NAND u-boot menu (hold power and then aux) and 
then select "power off". This may leave the device in a state were it 
will charge. Wait 15 minutes and then try to boot Linux.
- Try booting through NOR u-boot instead (hold aux and then power) with 
either the wall charger or a 500mA USB connection, then try booting Linux.
- If the device shuts off during one of the above attempts, let it sit 
for a few minutes and then try that same item once again

I've written some u-boot patches that improve low-battery handling. 
Anyone who's interested can take a look at the openmoko-kernel list for 
more details, but be warned that the code is not yet ready for general 
distribution (i.e. anyone who tests it does so entirely at his/her own 
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Re: Getting rid of echo for callers.

[Mike Baroukh]

If I understand correctly, it's not so easy : the problems are for 
others personns.
- you have to give the phone to somebody,
- ask him to go away
- call him
- ssh remotely into your phone.
- ask him to speak while you use alsamixer don't forget to give him a book).

and this, if you can ssh remotely.
Else, you have to ssh from another computer to the computer on wich the 
phone is plugged via usb.
So Easy ...

What I don't understand is why the settings have to be phone dependant.
If I'm not wrong, this settings depends not of the phone but of the gsm 
operator.
If it's true, maybe we may add a wiki page depending on the operator, 
isn't it ?
And if it's true, why not add gsm event that, on connect will choose the 
appropriate .state file depending on wich operator is currently in use ?

Mike


Daniel Selinger a écrit :
> Sry, but saying alsamixer is unuseable was a damn ugly lie ^^
>
> In fact it is extremely helpfull to experiment with the settings while a
> phone call is active and the other person can tell you if it get's
> better.
>
> 1. SSH into the Phone (Info about that on the wiki)
> 2. start alsamixer.
> Make a call to someone (you notice all controls change, thats when
> the gsmhandset.state file is loaded) - fiddle around with the mentioned
> settings until you have what you want.
> 3. exit alsamixer
> 4. call 'alsactl store -f gsmhandsetnew.state'
> 5. you can now diff the files and do whatever you want ^^
> 6. If you want to apply them for every call just rename
> gsmhandsetnew.state to gsmhandset.state and backup the old file.
>
> The controls have the same names within alsamixer, just without the
> Volume if a recall correctly. The only thing i couldn't find in
> alsamixer was Mic2 Capture Volume, but i'm quite sure i just didn't
> look for it enough.
>
> rgds Daniel
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Re: Getting rid of echo for callers.

[Mike Montour]

Daniel Selinger wrote:

> This settings removes the echo for the other person completely, at
> least for my hardware. I didn't hear any buzz either on my final
> testcalls, could be luck.

With those settings, were the two of you still able to easily hear each 
other talking? Did you test in a quiet environment or one with some 
background noise?


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Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

[Mike Montour]

tokenwizard wrote:
> Ok, well as soon  as I have time to deal with it I'll have to try and
> Frankenstein some type of power cable contraption to get this thing booted
> to the point the USB charge can kick in. Seems a little premature for such a
> function to kick in when the battery is only slightly less that half
> charged. Effectively, halving the battery capacity.

More likely, whatever was telling you that it was "half charged" was 
mis-calibrated or had stopped updating. By the time the internal cutoff 
circuit activates, the battery is drained.


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Re: will GTA03 be ready for holiday season?

[Mike Baroukh]

Would it really be difficult to swap usb 1.1 for usb 2.0 ?
The main reason would be to speed image burning ...

Mike

Francesco Cat a écrit :
> 2008/8/27 Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> So now we are targeting crippling the phone further?  Real iPhone killer it
>> is going to be.
>>
>> 
> It was never meant to be an IPhone killer. It was designed for beeing
> the first open phone.
> What I wanted to say: since this is an HW revision, not a brand new
> phone, the components regarding 3G and USB 2.0 will not be present in
> the GTA03. The glamo chip will be removed since it was a bad design
> (personally I would like to keep it, but people at OM think it is
> better to remove it, so it will be removed).
> We should get a camera and EDGE, but no more details are given.
>
> If you want 3G, 3D accelleration, more power, 4Mio pixel camera and so
> on, just wait for the GTA04, and hope that samsung will open their
> 6410 SoC
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Re: Problem flashing NAND

[Mike Doody]

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Dennis Wollersheim
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My steps:
>
> - - boot into NOR menu
> - - Connect via neocon to freerunner
> - - issue commands (from "Booting from SDcard wiki page):
>
> setenv menu_9 Boot from microSD (FAT+ext3): setenv bootargs
> \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext3 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
> \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; fatload mmc 1 0x3200 \${sd_image_name}\;
> bootm 0x3200
>
> saveenv
>
> neo1973 poweroff
>
>
> Then, when I boot into the NAND menu (holding first the ON then AUX
> buttons), I get the stock standard NAND menu, with no additional menu
> items.  Am I doing something wrong here?
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
>

What happens if you boot into NOR again? Do you see your new menu item?
I think you have to boot into NAND uboot to modify it's menu.

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Re: 2008.8 update

[Mike Baroukh]

I agree.
But may be we could do a wizard on wich every body could contribute to 
add plugins that configure ASU according to user preferences ?
It could configure keyboard, gsm multiplexer, sound, gesture ... install 
browser, terminal, ...
it could be like "easybuntu" ...

For each problem there is an aswer on the wiki.
But having to repeat after each upgrade all the customisation process is 
boring.
Have sombeody already done something like this ?


William Kenworthy a écrit :
> The problem is OM are not responding in a way that reassures us that
> 2008.8 is being shaped to our concerns.  I raised a bug that the default
> 2008.8 keyboard was almost impossible to use in anything but an english
> sms mode.  The bug was closed  with what to an English speaker means
> "its working, so go away".  This certainly teed me right off.  In
> postings since, its been explained that this was actually because of the
> way the bug reporting system works with engineering, and it doesnt work
> like we are used to in most opensource projects where you can raise a
> bug about ANY concern and it will be attended to/allocated as required,
> not closed because it doesnt neatly fit some engineers idea of a bug.
>
> So basicly yes, Yorick is speaking for very many of us.  There is a
> severe usability issue with 2008.8 and its being ignored.  Saying its up
> to the community to fix is laughable - we have fixed it, so why is OM
> not listening?
>
> Yes, I am still peeved by the way the bug was closed - why bother
> raising bugs when it results in actions like this?  Its all very well
> saying its open, give them a chance etc, but eventually, something will
> have to change here.
>
> BillK
>
> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:06 +0200, Michele Renda wrote:
>   
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Nishit, I realy hope that Yorick don't speak for a lot of US.
>>
>> There are way and way to make a comment of something is not right: a
>> person can:
>>
>> A. make in a proposive way, opening tickets, and specificating the
>> points that can be done in a different way, or, a person can just say:
>> B. It doesn't run, It doesn't run, It doesn't run -> It is a f**king
>> phone -> It is a f**king firm.
>>
>> You have the "fredom of arbitry", we can do all that we want with our
>> phone: this is not necessarily a nice thing: the software is far to be
>> mature, and a lot of things must to be done. It the price of the freedom.
>>
>> But if you choose the freedom, please don't use B. There are a lot of
>> better thing to do.
>> 
>
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Re: GSM interference / buzzing sound Update

[Mike Baroukh]

thanks a lot.
I hope they will provide an "how-to" we can do ourselves to remove this 
sound problem ...
I'm tired to have to shout when using my Neo ...


Yorick Moko a écrit :
> Read all about it on
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-August/000415.html
> (for people that don't read the hardware list)
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Re: Qtopia and GPRS

[Mike Baroukh]

is name resolution working ?

Eventually, try
wget -O - http://209.85.129.104/
(google)

I putted informations for bouygues telecom on this page but I finally 
found that  we don't need the proxy : It seems that there is a 
transparent proxy ...

Do you have a browser on qtopia ?
I didn't use it for now because of browser lack ...

Mike

julien cubizolles a écrit :
> I think I got GPRS working with my operator (bouyguestelecom) on Qtopia
> through the gui
>
> I get the online message on the gui, but I can't ping any address, not
> even the default gateway (10.64.64.64) set by the pppd it seems.
>
> ifconfig gives :
>
> inet addr:10.160.3.62  P-t-P:10.64.64.64  Mask:255.255.255.255
> UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 
> RX bytes:52 (52.0 B)  TX bytes:70 (70.0 B)
>
> route gives :
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
> Iface
> 10.64.64.64 *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00
> ppp0
> 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00
> usb0
> default 10.64.64.64 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
> ppp0
>
>
>
>  Using the gui I configured :
>
> APN : mmsbouygtel.com
> username :wap (I think you can put whatever you want but there has to be
> something)
> password : wapwap
>
> Proxy : tried 62.201.129.225:8080 (according to
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Some_APN_names_for_reference) and
> blank
>
> I can provide logreads if needed but they seem to only log pppd messages
> which are fine I think.
>
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Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

[Mike Baroukh]

Yes ! I was able tu build my own images ! ...
Thanks a lot.

real430m50.083s
user285m0.305s
sys 72m2.178s


Just a note : when compiling, it says that it should be faster with
"psyco jit".
I don't know if it's really faster but I just installed package
"python-psyco" and it doesn't complain anymore.
It's not in you package list.
If it really speed process, maybe you can add it to your server ...

Thanks again.

Mike

Rod Whitby a écrit :
> I have created an unofficial auto-builder for the FSO
> distribution at http://shr.bearstech.com (hosting of the
> server is provided by Bearstech - I have no relationship
> with Bearstech other than managing the auto-builder that
> runs on the server they have provided for this purpose).
>
> The server currently contains continuous builds of the
> fso-testing and fso-unstable distributions for the
> OpenMoko GTA01 (Neo 1973) and GTA02 (Neo FreeRunner).
> In the future it will also contain continuous builds of the
> shr-testing and shr-unstable distributions.
>
> The fso-testing and fso-unstable distributions are built
> from the org.openembedded.dev branch of the
> git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev.git repository.
> Both are built with DISTRO set to 'openmoko' and MACHINE set
> to sequentially to 'om-gta01' and 'om-gta02'.
>
> The fso-testing distribution builds the versions of packages
> specified in the preferred-om-2008-versions.inc file and the
> sane-srcrevs.inc file.  A key feature of the fso-testing
> distribution is that the package versions do not change unless
> by direct action of developers to update those files.  The
> intention is that this results in a recent set of packages that
> have undergone some rudimentary testing by the developers.
>
> The fso-unstable distribution allows a certain set of packages
> (defined in the moko-autorev.inc and fso-autorev.inc files) to
> 'float', and therefore is more likely to have the absolute latest
> version of any package, but also more likely to include versions
> of packages that do not not work and sometimes do not even build.
>
> The set of packages built is determined by contents of the
> task-openmoko-feed recipe in the OpenEmbedded repository.
>
> Build results are reported continuously to the oestats server at
> http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builders/shr.bearstech.com/
>
> All source tarballs used can be found in the sources directory
> on the server.
>
> Note that images that are rebuilt multiples times on the same day
> are overwritten.  The server operates in the CEST timezone.
>
> To replicate the configuration of this server, you should use a
> Debian Lenny host operating system, with the host package
> configuration as specified in the sources.list and dpkg-list.txt
> files in the server-config directory.
>
> Then copy the Makefile and 'common' directory to your build area.
> Read the Makefile for further documentation and instructions.
>
> -- Rod Whitby
> -- MokoMakefile and FsoMakefile author
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Re: OpenMoko apps website ?

[Mike Baroukh]

couldn't all informations on applications be extracted from ipks ?
Like what is done on http://packages.debian.org/stable/.



Valerio Valerio a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> besides projects.openmoko, I think OpenMoko should have a new website 
> more oriented to the users, it all the OpenMoko applications organized 
> by categories, with screenshots, small descriptions and also the 
> direct link to the packages. Something like this: 
> http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/
>
> Sometimes I go to the  screenshots area of linuxtogo and I see very 
> cool app running on the FR there, but a lot of times I don't know what 
> app is, this new site will resolve this lack for sure.
>
> When OpenMoko goes to prime time, and non technical people get in 
> touch it the phone this application site will give a lot of help to 
> those people that don't know all the free apps that can install in the 
> phone.
>
> what do you think ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- 
> Valério Valério
>
> http://www.valeriovalerio.org
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