Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-10-04 Thread vale

sorry michele, which site do you mean? i don't find it :(

thank you

vale


Michele Renda wrote:
> 
> vale wrote:
>> is there a working deb package around?
>> 
>> couldn't find that one on the italian forum ...
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> vale
> 
> that I know... Still not exist. There is the version from the site! just
> unpackt and run the compiled file.
> 
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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-10-03 Thread Michele Renda
vale wrote:
> is there a working deb package around?
> 
> couldn't find that one on the italian forum ...
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> vale

that I know... Still not exist. There is the version from the site! just
unpackt and run the compiled file.

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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-10-03 Thread vale

is there a working deb package around?

couldn't find that one on the italian forum ...

thanks in advance

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Re: GPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-24 Thread Christian Weßel
I brought your question (in German language) to saler. Waiting for
answer.

Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 09:30 -0600 schrieb -stacy:
...
> I don't speak German, but I don't see a lot of technical details on that 
> page; active antenna, magnetic, 5m cable. That is not a lot of 
> information to go on. The key piece of information that seems to be 
> missing is the voltage requirements for the antenna. Another important 
> piece of information would be the signal gain.
> 
> As far as I know, the freerunner supplies 3 volts to the antenna. I have 
> seen a lot of inexpensive antennae that will work with any voltage 
> between 1.8V and 5V but I have also seen others that will only work with 5V.
> 
> I am cautious with ebay sellers who don't put basic technical 
> information in the descriptions (unless they have a precise part #
> and I know what the specs are. in that case I don't care if the seller 
> knows :-)
> 
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Re: GPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-24 Thread -stacy
Christian Weßel wrote:
> I found a MMCX GPS antenna at ebay and want to know your statements
> about it:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.de/EXTERNE-AKTIVE-GPS-ANTENNE-MMCX-NAVIGATION-5M-KABEL_W0QQitemZ350100709576QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350100709576&_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I don't speak German, but I don't see a lot of technical details on that 
page; active antenna, magnetic, 5m cable. That is not a lot of 
information to go on. The key piece of information that seems to be 
missing is the voltage requirements for the antenna. Another important 
piece of information would be the signal gain.

As far as I know, the freerunner supplies 3 volts to the antenna. I have 
seen a lot of inexpensive antennae that will work with any voltage 
between 1.8V and 5V but I have also seen others that will only work with 5V.

I am cautious with ebay sellers who don't put basic technical 
information in the descriptions (unless they have a precise part #
and I know what the specs are. in that case I don't care if the seller 
knows :-)

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Re: GPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-24 Thread Dan Staley
I use an antenna I bought off ebay that looks exactly like that.  It
works great.  Reduces TTFF to around 15 secs and the magnet stays on my
car fine even at high speeds.
(See http://www.bufferunderflow.com/?entry=7 )

-Dan

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 08:00 -0400, Christian Weßel wrote:
> I found a MMCX GPS antenna at ebay and want to know your statements
> about it:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.de/EXTERNE-AKTIVE-GPS-ANTENNE-MMCX-NAVIGATION-5M-KABEL_W0QQitemZ350100709576QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350100709576&_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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GPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-24 Thread Christian Weßel
I found a MMCX GPS antenna at ebay and want to know your statements
about it:

http://cgi.ebay.de/EXTERNE-AKTIVE-GPS-ANTENNE-MMCX-NAVIGATION-5M-KABEL_W0QQitemZ350100709576QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350100709576&_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-23 Thread arne anka
> But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I
> will find it?

if you use debian on your pc, use apt-file. else see

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents

the bottommost form.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/23 Christian Weßel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I
> will find it?

ping is in inetutils-ping.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-23 Thread Christian Weßel
Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 13:53 +1000 schrieb Ian:
...
> I'm sure you've already done this, but just in case have you set your
> computer to act as a gateway to the FR? It needs packet forwarding
> enabled under /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward as well as iptables set up
> correctly. Personally I use an iptables frontend called firehol to
> simplify this.
> My /etc/firehol/firehol.conf looks like (this is on my laptop, not the FR):
...

I did sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 again and now it is working.

But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-22 Thread Ian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Christian Weßel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Montag, den 22.09.2008, 09:37 -0400 schrieb Jim Ancona:
>> If you can ssh to it, but you can't connect outbound, that usually means
>> that you don't have the default gateway set properly. If you are using
>> USB, try:
>>
>> route del default gw 192.168.0.200
>> route add default gw 192.168.0.200
>
> I have successfull access with ssh, I set a new pw as recommended. No
> problems, also after reboot.
> I checked the /etc/network/interfaces:
>
>> # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
>> # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
>> auto usb0
>> iface usb0 inet static
>> address 192.168.0.202
>> netmask 255.255.255.0
>> network 192.168.0.0
>> gateway 192.168.0.200
>> up echo nameserver 212.6.108.140>/etc/resolv.conf
>
> I figure that's fine.
>
> An attemt of update results:
>
>> debian-gta02:~# apt-get update
>> 0% [Connecting to pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org] [Connecting to 
>> ftp2.de.debian.org]
>> debian-gta02:~# apt-get update
>> Err http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable Release.gpg
>>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
>> Err http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org sid Release.gpg
>>   Temporary failure resolving 'pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org'
>> Err http://ftp2.de.debian.org experimental Release.gpg
>>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
>> Err http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable Release.gpg
>>   Temporary failure resolving 'pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org'
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> W: Failed to fetch 
>> http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/Release.gpg  Temporary 
>> failure resolving 'pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org'
>>
>> W: Failed to fetch 
>> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release.gpg  Temporary 
>> failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
>>
>> W: Failed to fetch 
>> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/Release.gpg  Temporary 
>> failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
>>
>> W: Failed to fetch 
>> http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release.gpg  
>> Temporary failure resolving 'pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org'
>>
>> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones 
>> used instead.
>> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
>
> HAHA, yes I want, but I can't.
>
> Does anyone has an idea?
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I'm sure you've already done this, but just in case have you set your
computer to act as a gateway to the FR? It needs packet forwarding
enabled under /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward as well as iptables set up
correctly. Personally I use an iptables frontend called firehol to
simplify this.
My /etc/firehol/firehol.conf looks like (this is on my laptop, not the FR):

#always needed for firehol
version 5

#Don't let anything in from the Internet that I didn't request
interface ppp+ internet src not "$UNROUTABLE_IPS"
  protection strong
  client all accept

# Accept all client traffic on any other interface and allow incoming SSH
interface any world src not "$RESERVED_IPS"
  server ssh accept
  client all accept

#Forward packets from usb network with NAT
router usbnet inface usb0 outface any
  masquerade
  route all accept



Cheers,
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-22 Thread Christian Weßel
Am Montag, den 22.09.2008, 09:37 -0400 schrieb Jim Ancona:
> If you can ssh to it, but you can't connect outbound, that usually means 
> that you don't have the default gateway set properly. If you are using 
> USB, try:
> 
> route del default gw 192.168.0.200
> route add default gw 192.168.0.200

I have successfull access with ssh, I set a new pw as recommended. No
problems, also after reboot.
I checked the /etc/network/interfaces:

> # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
> # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
> auto usb0
> iface usb0 inet static
> address 192.168.0.202
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.0.0
> gateway 192.168.0.200
> up echo nameserver 212.6.108.140>/etc/resolv.conf

I figure that's fine.

An attemt of update results:

> debian-gta02:~# apt-get update
> 0% [Connecting to pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org] [Connecting to 
> ftp2.de.debian.org]
> debian-gta02:~# apt-get update
> Err http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable Release.gpg
>  
>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
> Err http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org sid Release.gpg  
>  
>   Temporary failure resolving 'pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org'
> Err http://ftp2.de.debian.org experimental Release.gpg
>  
>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
> Err http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable Release.gpg 
>  
>   Temporary failure resolving 'pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org'
> Reading package lists... Done   
> W: Failed to fetch 
> http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/Release.gpg  Temporary 
> failure resolving 'pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org'
> 
> W: Failed to fetch 
> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release.gpg  Temporary 
> failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
> 
> W: Failed to fetch 
> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/Release.gpg  Temporary 
> failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
> 
> W: Failed to fetch 
> http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release.gpg  Temporary 
> failure resolving 'pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org'
> 
> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones 
> used instead.
> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

HAHA, yes I want, but I can't.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-22 Thread Jim Ancona
Christian Weßel wrote:
> But how can I install the network tools, if I don't get contact to a
> repository?
> 
> I checked the resolv.conf
> 
>> debian-gta02:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf 
>> nameserver 212.6.108.140
> 
> It is the same as before. And it is a valid DNS server.

Can ssh to your FR, meaning that you have network connectivity? Are you 
using USB and/or wifi networking?

If you can ssh to it, but you can't connect outbound, that usually means 
that you don't have the default gateway set properly. If you are using 
USB, try:

route del default gw 192.168.0.200
route add default gw 192.168.0.200

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-22 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/22 Christian Weßel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Without network tools I am not able to check my FR network and therefore i 
> can't install any further SW.

What kind of networking have you set up?  USB, or have you configured
your WIFI too?

What does ifconfig say?  Maybe there will be a clue there...

Regards,
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-21 Thread Christian Weßel
But how can I install the network tools, if I don't get contact to a
repository?

I checked the resolv.conf

> debian-gta02:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf 
> nameserver 212.6.108.140

It is the same as before. And it is a valid DNS server.

Without network tools I am not able to check my FR network and therefore i 
can't install any further SW.


christian

Am Sonntag, den 21.09.2008, 20:08 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> In my debian installation were no ping, traceroute and nslookup
> preinstalled. Everything needs to be installed after installation like
> many other nice things.
> I would suggest that you take a look at your resolv.conf because it
> seems that your name resolving doesn't work.
> Try adding a working dns and test it again.
> 
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
In my debian installation were no ping, traceroute and nslookup
preinstalled. Everything needs to be installed after installation like
many other nice things.
I would suggest that you take a look at your resolv.conf because it
seems that your name resolving doesn't work.
Try adding a working dns and test it again.

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Weßel wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have installed Debian successfull on my FR. Now I try to install
> further SW.
> 
> But I get allways 
> 
>> debian-gta02:/# apt-get install tangogps
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Recommended packages:
>>   gpsd
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>   tangogps
>> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 111kB of archives.
>> After this operation, 377kB of additional disk space will be used.
>> Err http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main tangogps 0.9.3-1
>>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
>> Failed to fetch 
>> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tangogps/tangogps_0.9.3-1_armel.deb
>>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
>> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with 
>> --fix-missing?
> 
> I checked my FW (iptables) but it looks like before.
> 
> Then I tried to ping my DNS server address and I tried to resolve a DNS name. 
> Both occured the same message:
> 
>> debian-gta02:/# ping 212.6.108.140
>> -bash: ping: command not found
>> debian-gta02:/# nslookup ftp2.de.debian.org
>> -bash: nslookup: command not found
> 
> Are there no network tools (ping, nslookup, traceroute, etc.) installed?
> 
>> debian-gta02:/# find /|grep nslookup
> 
> ... results nothing.
> 
> 
> 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-21 Thread Christian Weßel
Hello,

I have installed Debian successfull on my FR. Now I try to install
further SW.

But I get allways 

> debian-gta02:/# apt-get install tangogps
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Recommended packages:
>   gpsd
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   tangogps
> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 111kB of archives.
> After this operation, 377kB of additional disk space will be used.
> Err http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main tangogps 0.9.3-1
>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
> Failed to fetch 
> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tangogps/tangogps_0.9.3-1_armel.deb
>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with 
> --fix-missing?

I checked my FW (iptables) but it looks like before.

Then I tried to ping my DNS server address and I tried to resolve a DNS name. 
Both occured the same message:

> debian-gta02:/# ping 212.6.108.140
> -bash: ping: command not found
> debian-gta02:/# nslookup ftp2.de.debian.org
> -bash: nslookup: command not found

Are there no network tools (ping, nslookup, traceroute, etc.) installed?

> debian-gta02:/# find /|grep nslookup

... results nothing.
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gone?

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
sparky mat wrote:
> I am not able to find the FSO binaries/repository at
> shr.bearstech.com. Instead, I see that SHR binaries are present. I
> tried them out and there are (many) issues.

There is a shr-devel mailing list on which you can discuss those issues 
if you have an interest in getting them resolved.

> Just wondering why FSO builds were removed from here. This was my
> preferred build/repository.

FSO official feeds are now at downloads.freesmartphone.org - Mickey was 
supposed to send an email announcement, but that hasn't happened yet.

He did blog about it, but that's not really an announcement:
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/09/18/staugstin-braunschweig-berlin-taipei/


So shr.bearstech.com is now used for the purpose which it's name 
proclaims - its' the feeds for the SHR distro.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gone?

2008-09-18 Thread Klaus Kurzmann
* sparky mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080918 08:54]:
> I am not able to find the FSO binaries/repository at
> shr.bearstech.com. Instead, I see that SHR binaries are present. I
> tried them out and there are (many) issues.

> Just wondering why FSO builds were removed from here. This was my
> preferred build/repository.
see http://shr.bearstech.com/README:

(Note that the official FSO autobuilder can now be found
 at http://downloads.freesmartphone.org)

Mok

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] gone?

2008-09-17 Thread sparky mat
I am not able to find the FSO binaries/repository at
shr.bearstech.com. Instead, I see that SHR binaries are present. I
tried them out and there are (many) issues.

Just wondering why FSO builds were removed from here. This was my
preferred build/repository.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] up and running :)

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
David Samblas wrote:
> Thanks to Michael Siloh, 
> I can proudly annouce the opening of the spanish openmoko list,
> http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/local-openmoko-spain 
> 
> This intended to help the spanish non-english skilled users to help and
> be helped by the Openmoko community, the spanish skilled-enough users
> will act as bridge between international and local group
> Any english spanish-skilled are welcome  :), even anyone
> anything-skilled are welcome too :)
> 
> So to avoid any flamewar, the idea is to make the community grow not to
> split it. So I encorage anyone to do the same for his localgroup.
> 

Thanks to David, really, for initiating the Spanish group, for creating 
the original Spanish list, and for helping me get the list moved to 
Openmoko.

Openmoko is proud to support the Spanish local Openmoko group, and
Openmoko encourages the formation of other local Openmoko groups.

A mailing list seems like a useful tool, not to split the community, but 
to allow conversation that may not be relevant to the world at large 
(e.g. meetings or group purchases or, in this case, discussion in a 
different language).

I'll be happy to create mailing lists as needed. For the time being we 
are doing this under the umbrella of the local-openmoko project. Email 
me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to request such a list.

(The San Francisco local Openmoko Group, in contrast, has been invited 
to  simply use the San Francisco Linux User's Group mailing list, at 
least until we become a nuisance to them.)

I'll create a wiki page for local Openmoko groups, and look forward to 
adding more.

Michael

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] up and running :)

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
Thanks to Michael Siloh, 
I can proudly annouce the opening of the spanish openmoko list,
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/local-openmoko-spain 

This intended to help the spanish non-english skilled users to help and
be helped by the Openmoko community, the spanish skilled-enough users
will act as bridge between international and local group
Any english spanish-skilled are welcome  :), even anyone
anything-skilled are welcome too :)

So to avoid any flamewar, the idea is to make the community grow not to
split it. So I encorage anyone to do the same for his localgroup.

we also have an nabble interface

http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-spanish-community-list-f1077272.html

meanwhile has not been published in the new list ,you can look at the
old messages in google groups list at 

http://groups.google.es/group/openmoko-spain

Best Regards and thanks  again Michael for all the efford  and to no
"smash the BT fly" (any one asking himself what a BT fly is please send
a private mail directly to me :) )


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] howto setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for file-transfer

2008-09-06 Thread Christian Adams
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Am 06.09.2008 um 22:47 schrieb arne anka:

>> can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files /
>> browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
>> (use FR as bt-fileserver)
>
> look for everything with obex in it's name ...


i did .. and installed
and in the bluetooth-applet from gnome-bluetooth i activated in tab  
"general" the "share files from public folder" .. but there seems to  
be no effect at all .. :/

regards, morlac

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] howto setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for file-transfer

2008-09-06 Thread arne anka
> can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files /
> browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
> (use FR as bt-fileserver)

look for everything with obex in it's name ...

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] howto setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for file-transfer

2008-09-06 Thread Michele Renda
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Christian Adams wrote:
> moinmoin,
> 
> can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files / 
> browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
> (use FR as bt-fileserver)
> 
> ciao,
> morlac

I can't help you too much but I think you must to take care of:

1. Be sure that bluetooth is enabled in openmoko-panel tray bar.
2. Installing all the gnome bluetooth software stack.

I don't know if all this will get you a working bluetooth, but I think
is a good starting point!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] howto setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for file-transfer

2008-09-06 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin,

can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files / 
browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
(use FR as bt-fileserver)

ciao,
morlac

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Re: Post problems/bugs related questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please

2008-09-06 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Kosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There are tons of duplicated messages on the same list too.
> I just  the same message from Mickey 6 times. But it happens
> all the time with a lot of posts.
>
> I wpuld be nice if someone could do something about it.
>

I believe you two are talking about different types of duplication.  You are
speaking of getting the exact same message multiple times, where as the
original post is saying to read both lists before posting because we get way
too much traffic that is a duplicate of something else already posted.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Post problems/bugs related questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please

2008-09-04 Thread Kosa
There are tons of duplicated messages on the same list too.
I just  the same message from Mickey 6 times. But it happens
all the time with a lot of posts.

I wpuld be nice if someone could do something about it.

Cheers.

Kosa

- Un mundo mejor es posible -

Olivier Berger escribió:
> Hi.
>
> There is a lot of duplication between the support and community lists
> for simple questions relating to bugs with recent upgrades, or the
> likes.
>
> Please, care to subscribe and (read first, then) post to the most
> appropriate list when you'd like to get some help on fixing bugs,
> misbehaviours and the likes.
>
> Thanks in advance, fellow users.

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Post problems/bugs related questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please

2008-09-04 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

There is a lot of duplication between the support and community lists
for simple questions relating to bugs with recent upgrades, or the
likes.

Please, care to subscribe and (read first, then) post to the most
appropriate list when you'd like to get some help on fixing bugs,
misbehaviours and the likes.

Thanks in advance, fellow users.
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

2008-09-04 Thread Christian Adams
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i allready use the openmoko-panel-plugin (and extendet it a bit) but  
it doesn't provide options to run scripts on certain battery-levels  
(shut down fr when battery crtitical for example) yet. i am planning  
to extend the openmoko-panel-plugin that way but till i (or someone  
else) does so ..

i wanted to use xfce-battery-plugin cause i think (not really checked  
yet) it has a smaller mem-footprint ..

maybe i get time to implement my ideas on upcoming weekend ..

ciao,
morlac (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Morlac)

p.s. i would also extend om-panel-plugin to provide a window to  
choose charging-mode

Am 04.09.2008 um 11:58 schrieb Fox Mulder:

> Why don't you just use the selfmade openmoko-panel-plugin which also
> displays the battery status?
>
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
> Christian Adams wrote:
>> moinmoin
>>
>> did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
>> when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is
>> at 0% - what definitly is not the case.
>>
>> it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?
>>
>> regards, morlac

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

2008-09-04 Thread arne anka
> it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?

the plugin does -- fso does not.
the plugin relies on apmd which is not used in fso and, as known, produces  
issues when running.
since it is far bigger than the corresponding battery symbol, you're  
better off with the om-panel-plugin.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

2008-09-04 Thread Fox Mulder
Why don't you just use the selfmade openmoko-panel-plugin which also
displays the battery status?

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
> moinmoin
> 
> did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
> when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is  
> at 0% - what definitly is not the case.
> 
> it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?
> 
> regards, morlac
> 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

2008-09-04 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is  
at 0% - what definitly is not the case.

it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?

regards, morlac


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] apmd again

2008-09-02 Thread Christian Adams
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moin,

i tried to run two instances of apmd (with no X running) - what i got  
first is this:

-  snip 
dvalin:~# apmd
It appears that an instance of apmd is already running as process 1590.
If in reality no instance of apmd is running, remove /var/run/apmd.pid.
-  snap 

after 'rm /var/run/apmd.pid' i was allowed to run a 2nd instance of  
apmd and
invoking 'apm -s' did what it should - FR fell asleep and woke up on  
powerbutton

so for now i am clueless how to continue investigation .. :/

regards, morlac

Am 02.09.2008 um 18:17 schrieb Joachim Breitner:

> Hi,
>
> Am Dienstag, den 02.09.2008, 17:53 +0200 schrieb Christian Adams:
>> i can confirm your observations regarding strace -p 
>> but for me the starting order of apmd and X makes no difference ..
>>
>> my actual kernel: Linux dvalin 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Sun Aug 31 01:38:31
>> CEST 2008 armv4tl GNU/Linux
>> (came from not longer reachable buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/
>> freerunner/200808/20080831 )
>
> thanks. Unfortunately, I don’t have an idea what’s causing it, but I’d
> be thankful if you can debug it :-)
>
> You could test it with two instances of apmd and no X running, for
> example. Maybe the kernel just doesn’t like two apps listening
> on /dev/apm_bios.
>
> Greetings,
> Joachim

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] apmd again

2008-09-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Dienstag, den 02.09.2008, 17:53 +0200 schrieb Christian Adams:
> i can confirm your observations regarding strace -p 
> but for me the starting order of apmd and X makes no difference ..
> 
> my actual kernel: Linux dvalin 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Sun Aug 31 01:38:31  
> CEST 2008 armv4tl GNU/Linux
> (came from not longer reachable buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/ 
> freerunner/200808/20080831 )

thanks. Unfortunately, I don’t have an idea what’s causing it, but I’d
be thankful if you can debug it :-)

You could test it with two instances of apmd and no X running, for
example. Maybe the kernel just doesn’t like two apps listening
on /dev/apm_bios.

Greetings,
Joachim
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] apmd again

2008-09-02 Thread Christian Adams
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moin,

i can confirm your observations regarding strace -p 
but for me the starting order of apmd and X makes no difference ..

my actual kernel: Linux dvalin 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Sun Aug 31 01:38:31  
CEST 2008 armv4tl GNU/Linux
(came from not longer reachable buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/ 
freerunner/200808/20080831 )

regards, morlac

Am 02.09.2008 um 17:22 schrieb Joachim Breitner:

> Hi,
>
> Am Dienstag, den 02.09.2008, 12:50 +0200 schrieb Christian Adams:
>> i just discovered something i actually can't explain to myself:
>> (i do the sd_idleclk-trick in /etc/apm - scripts)
>> when apmd is running while i invoke 'apm -s' i get the following in
>> dmesg:
>>
>> -  snip 
>> Syncing filesystems ... done.
>> PM: Preparing system for mem sleep
>> -  snap 
>>
>> but the system doen't suspend completely - only X freezes but ssh-ing
>> still works
>>
>> when i now call 'invoke-rd.d apmd stop' the system suspends and
>> resumes on power-button and in dmesg it continues as following (i
>> think the 'error' is shown with the 'Can't switch VCs'-part - this
>> doesn't occur when apmd isn't running at all):
>
> I observed the same problem, but only when X was started after  
> apmd, not
> the other way around. I also observed that running "strace -p  apmd>" or "strace -p " makes the kernel go ahead with
> suspending.
>
> Can you confirm these observations? What kernel version are you using?
>
> Thanks,
> Joachim
> -- 
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> Debian Developer
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] apmd again

2008-09-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Dienstag, den 02.09.2008, 12:50 +0200 schrieb Christian Adams:
> i just discovered something i actually can't explain to myself:
> (i do the sd_idleclk-trick in /etc/apm - scripts)
> when apmd is running while i invoke 'apm -s' i get the following in  
> dmesg:
> 
> -  snip 
> Syncing filesystems ... done.
> PM: Preparing system for mem sleep
> -  snap 
> 
> but the system doen't suspend completely - only X freezes but ssh-ing  
> still works
>
> when i now call 'invoke-rd.d apmd stop' the system suspends and  
> resumes on power-button and in dmesg it continues as following (i  
> think the 'error' is shown with the 'Can't switch VCs'-part - this  
> doesn't occur when apmd isn't running at all):

I observed the same problem, but only when X was started after apmd, not
the other way around. I also observed that running "strace -p " or "strace -p " makes the kernel go ahead with
suspending.

Can you confirm these observations? What kernel version are you using?

Thanks,
Joachim
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] apmd again

2008-09-02 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

i just discovered something i actually can't explain to myself:
(i do the sd_idleclk-trick in /etc/apm - scripts)
when apmd is running while i invoke 'apm -s' i get the following in  
dmesg:

-  snip 
Syncing filesystems ... done.
PM: Preparing system for mem sleep
-  snap 

but the system doen't suspend completely - only X freezes but ssh-ing  
still works

when i now call 'invoke-rd.d apmd stop' the system suspends and  
resumes on power-button and in dmesg it continues as following (i  
think the 'error' is shown with the 'Can't switch VCs'-part - this  
doesn't occur when apmd isn't running at all):

-  snip 
Suspend: Can't switch VCs.Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed  
0.02 seconds) done.
Freezing remaining freezable tasks ... (elapsed 0.00 seconds) done.
PM: Entering mem sleep
Suspending console(s)
pcf50633 0-0073: pcf50633_suspend
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: faking cmd 7 during suspend
mmc_set_power(power_mode=0, vdd=0
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: glamo_mci_set_ios: power down.
gta02_udc_command(2)
suspending dma channel 0
suspending dma channel 1
suspending dma channel 2
suspending dma channel 3
GSTATUS3 0x30364084
GSTATUS4 0x0200
s3c2440-i2c s3c2440-i2c: slave address 0x10
s3c2440-i2c s3c2440-i2c: bus frequency set to 390 KHz
gta02_udc_command(1)
s3c2440-nand s3c2440-nand: Tacls=3, 30ns Twrph0=7 70ns, Twrph1=3 30ns
not changing prescaler of PWM 3, since it's shared with timer4 (clock  
tick)
timer_usec_ticks = 7864
timer tcon=00599109, tcnt a2c1, tcfg 0200,2000, usec 1eb8
mmc_set_power(power_mode=1, vdd=20
SD power -> 3200mV
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 0kHz div=255 (req:  
0kHz). Bus width=0
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 195kHz div=255 (req:  
195kHz). Bus width=0
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 195kHz div=255 (req:  
195kHz). Bus width=0
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 195kHz div=255 (req:  
195kHz). Bus width=0
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 195kHz div=255 (req:  
195kHz). Bus width=0
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 195kHz div=255 (req:  
195kHz). Bus width=0
glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 1kHz div=2 (req:  
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glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: powered (vdd = 20) clk: 1kHz div=2 (req:  
1kHz). Bus width=2
soc-audio soc-audio: scheduling resume work
PM: Finishing wakeup.
Restarting tasks ... <6>soc-audio soc-audio: starting resume work
done.
soc-audio soc-audio: resume work completed
-  snap 



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Re: openmoko-panel-plugin for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-01 Thread Christian Adams
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sebastian & xaos x did this "Plugin for any gtk based panel type."  
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Am 01.09.2008 um 22:21 schrieb Alasal:

>
> Can you say for which distribution this is?
>
>
> Christian Adams wrote:
>>
>> moinmoin,
>>
>> fyi i extended openmoko-panel-plugin by sebastian ohl & xaos x
>> now it presents also a switch for enable/disable matchbox-keyboard
>> (i also overhauled some of the icons)
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/openmoko-panel- 
> plugin-tp832506p832530.html
> Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth

2008-09-01 Thread Christian Adams
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your're right _THIS_ one i would remember! :D

i solved my prob by re-installing the segfaulting nautilus - now the  
passkey dialog appears again ..

regards, morlac - sometimes in need of a little distance to see  
what's (not) going on

Am 01.09.2008 um 14:25 schrieb arne anka:

> could it be you had
> bluez-gnome
> installed?
> since you have an 8gb card and xfce uses gtk the dependencies  
> should not
> worry you -- the only other graphical passkey agent i know in  
> debian is in
> kdebluetooth whcih you probaly would remember if you installed it.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth

2008-09-01 Thread Christian Adams
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i am using the bluetooth-applet found in bluez-gnome

and just found what was wrong here: nautilus (also installed) was  
segfaulting ..

regards, morlac
Am 01.09.2008 um 14:17 schrieb arne anka:

>> sry i missed that - i am using xfce - by now i installed everything
>> with 'obex' in the name
>
> what bt-applet did you have?
> the only one i found so far is that little panel applet someone  
> from the
> list created and that only allows you to en-/disable gsm, wifi,  
> gps, bt
> and shows battery status.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth

2008-09-01 Thread arne anka
could it be you had
bluez-gnome
installed?
since you have an 8gb card and xfce uses gtk the dependencies should not  
worry you -- the only other graphical passkey agent i know in debian is in  
kdebluetooth whcih you probaly would remember if you installed it.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth

2008-09-01 Thread arne anka
> sry i missed that - i am using xfce - by now i installed everything
> with 'obex' in the name

what bt-applet did you have?
the only one i found so far is that little panel applet someone from the  
list created and that only allows you to en-/disable gsm, wifi, gps, bt  
and shows battery status.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth

2008-09-01 Thread Christian Adams
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sry i missed that - i am using xfce - by now i installed everything  
with 'obex' in the name

Am 01.09.2008 um 14:02 schrieb arne anka:

>> before crashing debian on my 8G-sd with experiments with apm i was
>> able to exchange files with my bt-enabled se-w810i
>> right-click on bluetooth-applet -> browse device -> choose w810i and
>> connect. first time i did the passkey-dialog appeared and everything
>> was fine .. sending/receiving data worked like a charm.
>
>
> what dm/de did you use? zhone? xfce?

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth

2008-09-01 Thread arne anka
> before crashing debian on my 8G-sd with experiments with apm i was
> able to exchange files with my bt-enabled se-w810i
> right-click on bluetooth-applet -> browse device -> choose w810i and
> connect. first time i did the passkey-dialog appeared and everything
> was fine .. sending/receiving data worked like a charm.


what dm/de did you use? zhone? xfce?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth

2008-09-01 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

before crashing debian on my 8G-sd with experiments with apm i was  
able to exchange files with my bt-enabled se-w810i
right-click on bluetooth-applet -> browse device -> choose w810i and  
connect. first time i did the passkey-dialog appeared and everything  
was fine .. sending/receiving data worked like a charm.

now after reinstalling i wanted to connect to w810i again but the  
passkey-dialog doen't appear and that's where the story ends - no  
pairing, no file-exchange ..

could anyone point out what's missing here? which packet to install?  
which config to change?

(manually running bluetooth-applet from terminal within fr shows  
nothing)

regards, morlac

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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-01 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 10:56 +0200 schrieb Michele Renda:
> Thank you Pietro!
> 
> I will test as soon, and I will give you a feedback.
> 
> It will be nice to have a little repository for all the person that
> use Debian on FR where they can find the programs that are unavailable
> on the Debian official channed !

That’s basically what pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org is for. At least for
packages that could be in official Debian eventually, such as
pypennotes[1]. But we do apply roughly the same quality requirements
than for the real archive and want all packages eventually in Debian.

I’m planing to include numpty-physics eventually, at the latest when the
version with the on-screen buttons is available. 

We are also welcoming anyone else to create packages for the repository,
if they are willing to properly maintain it in Debian later. I guess
http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ is a starting point for that.

Greetings,
Joachim

[1] http://pkg-fso.nomeata.de/sid/pypennotes

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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-01 Thread Roland Mas
Michele Renda, 2008-09-01 10:56:52 +0200 :

> It will be nice to have a little repository for all the person that
> use Debian on FR where they can find the programs that are
> unavailable on the Debian official channed !

That's exactly what the pkg-fso repository is about, you know.

Roland.
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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-01 Thread Michele Renda
Thank you Pietro!

I will test as soon, and I will give you a feedback.

It will be nice to have a little repository for all the person that use
Debian on FR where they can find the programs that are unavailable on the
Debian official channed !
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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-09-01 Thread Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano
Michele Renda ha scritto:
> Hi Aapo
> 
> Thank you for your tip!
> 
> I will wait your server will become available and I will try to build
> it, and, I will try to make a deb package.
> 
> Thank you
> Michele Renda

I've made a .deb package here [1], it's an italian forum but it will be 
clear where to get the .deb (3rd post there is an attachment).
Keep in mind that it's my first deb (i'm a gentoo user) so it should be 
tested, on my FR it works quite well.

Pietro

[1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,325.msg2975.html#msg2975

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Re: scummvom on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-31 Thread Fox Mulder
I did nothing special. I just installed the version in the debian
repositories (scummvm_0.11.1-1_armel.deb) with all dependencies (which
were solved automatically when installing).
After that i can start it without problems, except the screen rotation
problem.
I tested to change the layout back to classic (with config file entry)
which makes more buttons visible but not all. :/

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
> .. could you tell us - who did not succeed in this yet - how you got  
> it running? ;)
> 
> regards, morlac
> 
> Am 31.08.2008 um 12:00 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> 
>> I got scummvm running, but it is not usable at all because the screen
>> rotation doesn't work on-the-fly right now with xfce.
>> So the window is much too wide and i can't see the buttons at the  
>> right
>> end. :/
> 
>> Ciao,
>> Rainer
> 
>> Christian Adams wrote:
>>> moinmoin
>>>
>>> someone got scummvm on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to run?
>>>
>>> trying to start, process seems to run, but nothing happens - no
>>> window, no error .. nothing
>>>
>>> would love to hear some ideas on this .. playing monkey island again
>>> on fr would rock!
>>>
>>> regards, morlac

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Re: scummvom on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-31 Thread Christian Adams
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.. could you tell us - who did not succeed in this yet - how you got  
it running? ;)

regards, morlac

Am 31.08.2008 um 12:00 schrieb Fox Mulder:

> I got scummvm running, but it is not usable at all because the screen
> rotation doesn't work on-the-fly right now with xfce.
> So the window is much too wide and i can't see the buttons at the  
> right
> end. :/
>
> Ciao,
> Rainer
>
> Christian Adams wrote:
>> moinmoin
>>
>> someone got scummvm on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to run?
>>
>> trying to start, process seems to run, but nothing happens - no
>> window, no error .. nothing
>>
>> would love to hear some ideas on this .. playing monkey island again
>> on fr would rock!
>>
>> regards, morlac
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Re: scummvom on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-31 Thread Fox Mulder
I got scummvm running, but it is not usable at all because the screen
rotation doesn't work on-the-fly right now with xfce.
So the window is much too wide and i can't see the buttons at the right
end. :/

Ciao,
Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
> moinmoin
> 
> someone got scummvm on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to run?
> 
> trying to start, process seems to run, but nothing happens - no  
> window, no error .. nothing
> 
> would love to hear some ideas on this .. playing monkey island again  
> on fr would rock!
> 
> regards, morlac
> 
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2008-08-30 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

someone got scummvm on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to run?

trying to start, process seems to run, but nothing happens - no  
window, no error .. nothing

would love to hear some ideas on this .. playing monkey island again  
on fr would rock!

regards, morlac

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Re: xfce on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-30 Thread Michele Renda
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Same problem here too. It seem to be the menu need to be clicked to be
opened.
I think it will be good to modify settings to open the menu on "mouse
over" instead of on "mouse click".

I think there is a setting that help on this.

Different seem to be the menu setting, that take some time to open,
because it must be popolated...

Nathan Kinkade wrote:
> 2008/8/29 arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> in xfce-main-menu i need three clicks to open a submenu. someone an
>>> idea on this?
>> i noticed it too -- sometimes even more.
>> i somehow think the menu is populated every time it's expanded --
>> subsequent submenus expand on first click.
> 
> I was apparently having this issue as well.  I'm not 100% sure, but it
> seems to have to do with how long I hold the tap.  A quick tap doesn't
> always open the submenu, but it never fails to open if I hold the tap
> for just little bit longer.  If I hold it for too long the menu opens
> then closes.  It seems that there is a sweet-spot in terms of how long
> to hold the tap to get the menu to always open properly.
> 
> Nathan
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Re: xfce on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-30 Thread Nathan Kinkade
2008/8/29 arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> in xfce-main-menu i need three clicks to open a submenu. someone an
>> idea on this?
>
> i noticed it too -- sometimes even more.
> i somehow think the menu is populated every time it's expanded --
> subsequent submenus expand on first click.

I was apparently having this issue as well.  I'm not 100% sure, but it
seems to have to do with how long I hold the tap.  A quick tap doesn't
always open the submenu, but it never fails to open if I hold the tap
for just little bit longer.  If I hold it for too long the menu opens
then closes.  It seems that there is a sweet-spot in terms of how long
to hold the tap to get the menu to always open properly.

Nathan

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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-29 Thread Michele Renda
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Hi Aapo

Thank you for your tip!

I will wait your server will become available and I will try to build
it, and, I will try to make a deb package.

Thank you
Michele Renda

Aapo Rantalainen wrote:
> Numptyphysics that works with Debian:
> http://lauta.dyndns.org/freerunner/index.html
> tar.gz.
> 
> There are sources+binaries+data.
> Data is same than ipk-package (smaller resolution + extra levels)
> Sources can be compiled on Freerunner (just apt-get install all lib
> what it whine)
> Ready binary.
> 
> 
> There are new version of numptyphysics coming:
> *newer physics-engine
> *replay / demo recording
> *on screen keyboard / controlpanel (to restart level, jump next, pause
> game, etc)
> 
> -Aapo Rantalainen
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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-29 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Numptyphysics that works with Debian:
http://lauta.dyndns.org/freerunner/index.html
tar.gz.

There are sources+binaries+data.
Data is same than ipk-package (smaller resolution + extra levels)
Sources can be compiled on Freerunner (just apt-get install all lib
what it whine)
Ready binary.


There are new version of numptyphysics coming:
*newer physics-engine
*replay / demo recording
*on screen keyboard / controlpanel (to restart level, jump next, pause
game, etc)

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: xfce on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-29 Thread arne anka
> in xfce-main-menu i need three clicks to open a submenu. someone an
> idea on this?

i noticed it too -- sometimes even more.
i somehow think the menu is populated every time it's expanded --  
subsequent submenus expand on first click.

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xfce on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-29 Thread Christian Adams
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hi,
in xfce-main-menu i need three clicks to open a submenu. someone an  
idea on this?

regards, morlac

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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-29 Thread Michael Kluge
> I downloaded: 
http://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/3943/numptyphysics_0.2_armel.deb

Won't work because they have a different CPU in the the n800/810. If I compile 
it for the FR with the same options used for the n800/810, it will crash due 
to an unknown instruction.

> I installed and it satisfy all dependencies except 2:
>
> libosso-email-interface
> libsdl1.2

Get the ipk (it's in the FSO repositories), extract and put things it into 
place. I have never done this myself, but might work.


Michael

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Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-29 Thread Michele Renda
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Hi All

I am tring to install numptyphysics in my FR with Debian and XFCE.

I downloaded:

http://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/3943/numptyphysics_0.2_armel.deb


I installed and it satisfy all dependencies except 2:

libosso-email-interface
libsdl1.2

I found a lbsdl1.2debian. Someone know how to continue?

Thank you to all

Michele Renda
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - non-response

2008-07-30 Thread Liyueh Shen
Dave,

Please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.

steve wrote:
> Everyone is buried in mail.
>
> What can I do for you 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave O'Connor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:49 AM
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - non-response
>
> Hello
> I'm wondering has anyone receieved any response from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
> the last two weeks? I'm trying to get openmoko to resubmit info for shipping
> so I can claim back provincial sales tax for my group but 3 emails to sales@
> since the Friday before last and one email to a specific person I won't name
> @openmoko have resulted in no replies.
>
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - non-response

2008-07-30 Thread Liyueh Shen
Dave,

Please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.

Webshop order related questions can be addressed to this email as well -

Payment issue
Change/cancel of order
Shipping status
DOA/Repair/Return

-Liane

steve wrote:
> Everyone is buried in mail.
>
> What can I do for you 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:49 AM
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - non-response
>
> Hello
> I'm wondering has anyone receieved any response from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
> the last two weeks? I'm trying to get openmoko to resubmit info for shipping
> so I can claim back provincial sales tax for my group but 3 emails to sales@
> since the Friday before last and one email to a specific person I won't name
> @openmoko have resulted in no replies.
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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - non-response

2008-07-30 Thread steve
Everyone is buried in mail.

What can I do for you 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:49 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - non-response

Hello
I'm wondering has anyone receieved any response from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
the last two weeks? I'm trying to get openmoko to resubmit info for shipping
so I can claim back provincial sales tax for my group but 3 emails to sales@
since the Friday before last and one email to a specific person I won't name
@openmoko have resulted in no replies.

Regards
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - non-response

2008-07-30 Thread Ryan Svoboda
Both my roommate and I have had a lot of trouble contacting anyone at
openmoko. My roommate had trouble contacting anyone to get information about
when his FreeRunner would ship (he had placed his order 2 hours before I,
and recieved his a week after me due to shiiping problems). I've been trying
to contact Openmoko to have my FreeRunner repaired, since my AUX button is
broken.

I (unfortunately) had to spam everyone on the contact page
http://www.openmoko.com/contact.html, and the only person to respond so far
was [EMAIL PROTECTED] who was able to forward me to the person in charge
of customer support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My original message was sent 9 days
ago, and my first message to Tony was sent 5 days ago

Unfortunately, Tony still hasn't responded. :(

Ryan

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>   1. Re: ASU - startup broken by upgrade? (Torfinn Ingolfsen)
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>   3. Re: ppp support not in the kernel? (Andy Green)
>   4. Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card
>  interference  issue (Pawel Kowalak)
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> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion"  >
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:59:26 +0200
> Subject: Re: ASU - startup broken by upgrade?
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Mr. Morph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please see this bug report and the workaround in the last comment:
> > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1678
>
> Ouch1 Thats a large graft. Is it really necessary tom remove so many
> packages?
>
> Ok, I'll try this.
>
> Hmm...
> It doesn't seems to work for me:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg remove libecore0
> Collected errors:
>  * Package libecore0 is depended upon by packages:
>  *  assassin
>  *  e-wm
>  *  efreet
>  *  exquisite
>  *  illume
>  *  libecore-con
>  *  libecore-evas
>  *  libecore-fb
>  *  libecore-file
>  *  libecore-imf
>  *  libecore-ipc
>  *  libecore-job
>  *  libecore-x
>  *  libedbus0
>  *  libedje0
>  *  libefreet-mime0
>  *  libefreet0
>  *  libehal0
>  *  ompower
>  *  python-ecore
>  *  python-edbus
>  *  python-etk
>  *  splinter
>  * These might cease to work if package libecore0 is removed.
>
>  *  * You can force removal of this package with -force-depends.
>  * You can force removal of this package and its dependents
>  * with -force-removal-of-dependent-packages or -recursive
>  * or by setting option force_removal_of_dependent_packages
>  * in opkg.conf.
>
> I needed this:
> opkg -force-depends remove libecore0
>
> But after that, it still doesn't work. There is a window on my X
> screen with small text in it  (something about modules).
> Oh well, it will get fixed sooner or later.
> --
> Regards,
> Torfinn Ingolfsen
>
>
>
>
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> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion"  >
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:12:04 -0400
> Subject: Re: numptyphysics ipk
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Ignore me... OPKG to the rescue. This game is awesome! That's the end
>> of my working day!
>>
>
> Would someone be willing to post a video on YouTube of them playing this
> game on their Freerunner? When Crayon Physics came out people flipped when
> they saw it running on a tablet. I think a video on YouTube would help get
> Openmoko some additional exposure.
>
> -Charles Pax
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: ppp sup

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - non-response

2008-07-30 Thread Dave O'Connor
Hello
I'm wondering has anyone receieved any response from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in 
the last two weeks? I'm trying to get openmoko to resubmit info for 
shipping so I can claim back provincial sales tax for my group but 3 
emails to sales@ since the Friday before last and one email to a specific 
person I won't name @openmoko have resulted in no replies.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OLSRD

2008-06-27 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi.

Evgeny Ginzburg schrieb:
> Nice enough!
> I really like mesh networking protocols work on Neos.
> Maybe I'll try to run Netsukuku.
> OK first I have to buy one.
We do not have netsukuku recipes in OE yet. But that could be fixed
quickly if it is easy to build.

Volunteering to provide a recipe? Then you can have the binary before
your phone arrives. :)

Regards
Robert



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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OLSRD

2008-06-27 Thread Evgeny Ginzburg
Robert Schuster wrote:
> Hi,
> you know we already have B.A.T.M.A.N in OpenEmbedded but now I gave good
> old OLSRD a try too.
> 
> I added a recipe for the latest release 0.5.5 and tested it on the
> device. It is working nicely along with the ar6000 being in ad-hoc mode
> (the preferred mode for mesh networks ;) ). No luck with 0.5.3 though -
> it crashes when I want to view the page generated by the httpinfo plugin.
> 
> I wanted to do some NATting between the wifi interface and the usbnet
> connection (effectively making my desktop computer an internet gateway
> for the Berlin Freifunk community).
> 
> However this was impossible since OpenMoko does not provide the iptables
> package (you can get the kernel modules but not the userspace
> application). You can build it on your own and then everything is fine
> though.
> 
> There are also some minor issues with the wifi driver. I reported
> this[0] a while ago already.
> 
> I am already happy but I would be so even more if:
>  - olsrd version preference could be set to 0.5.5
>  - iptables could be installed directly via opkg
> 
> The FreeRunner as a wifi mesh-node is a nice use case for the time after
> being a mobile phone. It would be one of the very few nodes that have a
> screen attached. :)
> 
> I would like to offer screen shots but there is nothing spectacular to
> see on them. But perhaps you like some console output instead:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0
> eth0  AR6000 802.11g  ESSID:"olsr.freifunk.net"
>   Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Cell: 02:CA:FF:EE:BA:BE
>   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3
>   Retry:on
>   Encryption key:off
>   Power Management:off
>   Link Quality:168/94  Signal level:-183 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
>   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
> 
> (A fixed BSSID of '02:CA:FF:EE:BA:BE' is what we use in Berlin to
> overcome some problems with ad-hoc mode specification.)
> 
> Starting the daemon:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/olsrd start
> Starting OLSR routing protocol daemon: olsr.org
> 
>  *** olsr.org - 0.5.5 ***
>  Build date: 2008-06-26 23:09:18 on linkist
>  http://www.olsr.org
> 
> Parsing file: "/etc/olsrd.conf"
> olsr.org - 0.5.5 detaching from the current process...
> done.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# pidof olsrd
> 4479
> 
> Pinging a node that is a few hops away:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ping 104.192.0.156
> PING 104.192.0.156 (104.192.0.156): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 104.192.0.156: seq=0 ttl=62 time=89.001 ms
> 64 bytes from 104.192.0.156: seq=3 ttl=62 time=45.555 ms
> 
> --- 104.192.0.156 ping statistics ---
> 4 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 50% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max = 45.555/67.278/89.001 ms
> 
> Traceroute to it:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# traceroute 104.192.0.156
> traceroute to 104.192.0.156 (104.192.0.156), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
>  1  104.131.4.24 (104.131.4.24)  15.096 ms  29.789 ms  12.770 ms
>  2  104.131.4.26 (104.131.4.26)  12.536 ms  11.377 ms  10.147 ms
>  3  104.192.0.156 (104.192.0.156)  25.497 ms  51.212 ms  51.228 ms
> 
> Actually I could find something that may show I am really using this on
> the Neo. I attached is httpinfo plugin generated webpage showing my
> configuration. There are few devices where eth0 is a wifi card. :D
> 
> If you are interested I also attached by olsrd.conf. You need to have
> olsrd-plugin-httpinfo, olsrd-plugin-nameservice (didn't work as
> expected) and olsrd-plugin-dyngw installed besides the daemon.
> 
> Regards
> Robert
> 
> [0] - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1392

Nice enough!
I really like mesh networking protocols work on Neos.
Maybe I'll try to run Netsukuku.
OK first I have to buy one.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: OLSRD

2008-06-26 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi,
you know we already have B.A.T.M.A.N in OpenEmbedded but now I gave good
old OLSRD a try too.

I added a recipe for the latest release 0.5.5 and tested it on the
device. It is working nicely along with the ar6000 being in ad-hoc mode
(the preferred mode for mesh networks ;) ). No luck with 0.5.3 though -
it crashes when I want to view the page generated by the httpinfo plugin.

I wanted to do some NATting between the wifi interface and the usbnet
connection (effectively making my desktop computer an internet gateway
for the Berlin Freifunk community).

However this was impossible since OpenMoko does not provide the iptables
package (you can get the kernel modules but not the userspace
application). You can build it on your own and then everything is fine
though.

There are also some minor issues with the wifi driver. I reported
this[0] a while ago already.

I am already happy but I would be so even more if:
 - olsrd version preference could be set to 0.5.5
 - iptables could be installed directly via opkg

The FreeRunner as a wifi mesh-node is a nice use case for the time after
being a mobile phone. It would be one of the very few nodes that have a
screen attached. :)

I would like to offer screen shots but there is nothing spectacular to
see on them. But perhaps you like some console output instead:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0
eth0  AR6000 802.11g  ESSID:"olsr.freifunk.net"
  Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Cell: 02:CA:FF:EE:BA:BE
  Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3
  Retry:on
  Encryption key:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality:168/94  Signal level:-183 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

(A fixed BSSID of '02:CA:FF:EE:BA:BE' is what we use in Berlin to
overcome some problems with ad-hoc mode specification.)

Starting the daemon:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/olsrd start
Starting OLSR routing protocol daemon: olsr.org

 *** olsr.org - 0.5.5 ***
 Build date: 2008-06-26 23:09:18 on linkist
 http://www.olsr.org

Parsing file: "/etc/olsrd.conf"
olsr.org - 0.5.5 detaching from the current process...
done.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# pidof olsrd
4479

Pinging a node that is a few hops away:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ping 104.192.0.156
PING 104.192.0.156 (104.192.0.156): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 104.192.0.156: seq=0 ttl=62 time=89.001 ms
64 bytes from 104.192.0.156: seq=3 ttl=62 time=45.555 ms

--- 104.192.0.156 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 50% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 45.555/67.278/89.001 ms

Traceroute to it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# traceroute 104.192.0.156
traceroute to 104.192.0.156 (104.192.0.156), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  104.131.4.24 (104.131.4.24)  15.096 ms  29.789 ms  12.770 ms
 2  104.131.4.26 (104.131.4.26)  12.536 ms  11.377 ms  10.147 ms
 3  104.192.0.156 (104.192.0.156)  25.497 ms  51.212 ms  51.228 ms

Actually I could find something that may show I am really using this on
the Neo. I attached is httpinfo plugin generated webpage showing my
configuration. There are few devices where eth0 is a wifi card. :D

If you are interested I also attached by olsrd.conf. You need to have
olsrd-plugin-httpinfo, olsrd-plugin-nameservice (didn't work as
expected) and olsrd-plugin-dyngw installed besides the daemon.

Regards
Robert

[0] - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1392
Title: olsr.org httpinfo plugin





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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:46:21 +0100 (CET) David Samblas Martinez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

Fancypants is something that FST has worked on - they have built on to of EFL
(evas and friends). the same thing E17 is built on. It's NOT a replacement for
GTK - (though things like ETK and EWL do exist and are close replacements), but
what it *IS* good at far above and beyond anything else is hellishly customised
2D UI's with smooth fast graphics - without needing "graphics acceleration".
smart and optimised use of raw compute power can get you a long long long way.
That's why E17 has taken so long - a huge effort has been sunk into layers of
software below it to do just this - scale from tiny embedded devices all the
way to multi-ghz multi-core behemoths (yes evas's rendering engine is SLI and
will actually go use all CPU cores you have - automatically).

So to make any UI's that are different/exciting/sexy/whatever - it's not a bad
choice (and yes Openhand hand have clutter and we can go on and on about
other things that might be similar). This does not mean throwing away any
existing apps. GTK is a fine widget set. Use it. I believe in choice - choose
your language, your toolkit, your UI. choose what is best for you.

So where do I fit - Well my business card has 2 titles. 1 is "Evil Overlord".
Personally I like this one :) The other has "Lead Architect - Graphics". That's
pretty fuzzy, but I guess if it has pixels involved - I'll be at least sniffing
around at it. Personally I want to make OpenMoko not just work - but sing. Be
exciting. Be sexy. Beautiful graphics & UI's are not just something Apple does.
They just help raise the bar.

> WOW this video is really impressive, if there was not for the little swinging
> of the camera at the end of the video , seems too smooth to be real as a
> photoshoped thing of fake, but the "mistakes", perhaps mistake is to hard to
> descrive it  better "mechanical noises" in zoom and positioning, or the
> author is a little advanced on infographics or it seems very real!!! By the
> way. The Neo will come with the pen/pointer used in  the video?? Jonathon
> Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: That does look pretty impressive
> especially considering that hardware acceleration isn't implemented.
> 
> But now my question is how does e17, OKL4, raster, etc. all fit into the
> overall OpenMoko equation?
> 
> -Jonathon
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Oliver 
> Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion
> 
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:45:52 +0100
> 
> Hey guys, there's even a video of fancypants showing video on the Neo:
> 
> http://www.fluffyspider.com/demos/live_videos/flv/fancypants-openmoko-neo1973-video-browser-phone-dialer.html
> 
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:15:25 -0500 "William Voorhees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:

> OMG Awesome,
> Rasterman is amazing!

shucks - um... thanks. :) Though don't give me too much credit. I have built on
top of the work of many who have trodden paths before me. I have made use of
infrastructure others have laid out. I'm just that crazy old man in the town
square muttering incoherent phrases to himself and anyone else in earshot :)

> -Will
> 
> On 11/2/07, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:56:26 +0800, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:59 +0100 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> > >
> > >> Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!!
> > >> So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D
> > >> Wow!! I'm sooo excited!
> > >
> > > Um Hi Guys! :)
> > > *bounce*
> > >
> >
> > Hi !
> >
> >
> > > E17 on phones - let's see. I'm really keen to see it be able to do that.
> > > If it
> > > means making a phone sexy - I'm all over it like stink on stinky tofu. :)
> >
> > Great news !!!
> >
> > I am e17 user for some years ago after DR16 user so I know you was
> > specialized in embedded systems :)
> >
> > OpenMoko is a kind of a logical way for you :)
> >
> > great welcome and see you soon :)
> >
> > Steven (waiting for his Neo1973 GTA02 - EFL/OpenMoko :) )
> >
> >
> > --
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread David Samblas Martinez

WOW this video is really impressive, if there was not for the little swinging 
of the camera at the end of the video , seems too smooth to be real as a 
photoshoped thing of fake, but the "mistakes", perhaps mistake is to hard to 
descrive it  better "mechanical noises" in zoom and positioning, or the author 
is a little advanced on infographics or it seems very real!!!
By the way.
The Neo will come with the pen/pointer used in  the video??
Jonathon Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: That does look pretty impressive 
especially considering that hardware
acceleration isn't implemented.

But now my question is how does e17, OKL4, raster, etc. all fit into the
overall OpenMoko equation?

-Jonathon


-Original Message-
From: Oliver 
Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion

To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:45:52 +0100

Hey guys, there's even a video of fancypants showing video on the Neo:

http://www.fluffyspider.com/demos/live_videos/flv/fancypants-openmoko-neo1973-video-browser-phone-dialer.html

Woo! /Oliver
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread Jonathon Suggs
That does look pretty impressive especially considering that hardware
acceleration isn't implemented.

But now my question is how does e17, OKL4, raster, etc. all fit into the
overall OpenMoko equation?

-Jonathon


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From: Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion

To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:45:52 +0100

Hey guys, there's even a video of fancypants showing video on the Neo:

http://www.fluffyspider.com/demos/live_videos/flv/fancypants-openmoko-neo1973-video-browser-phone-dialer.html

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
You're talking about EFL, not e17.
But e17 is of course running, too :)
http://gstaedtner.net/e17_on_Neo.avi

Back on topic:
Welcome raster, I'm looking forward to see what the future will bring to us.

On 11/2/07, Florent THIERY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Running e17 even as we speak.
>
> Same here :)
>
> Very big news, thank you, Sean and Raster !
>
> Have fun
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2007-11-02 Thread Florent THIERY
> Running e17 even as we speak.

Same here :)

Very big news, thank you, Sean and Raster !

Have fun

Flo

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread Oliver
Hey guys, there's even a video of fancypants showing video on the Neo:

http://www.fluffyspider.com/demos/live_videos/flv/fancypants-openmoko-neo1973-video-browser-phone-dialer.html

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread William Voorhees
OMG Awesome,
Rasterman is amazing!

-Will

On 11/2/07, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:56:26 +0800, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:59 +0100 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> >
> >> Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!!
> >> So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D
> >> Wow!! I'm sooo excited!
> >
> > Um Hi Guys! :)
> > *bounce*
> >
>
> Hi !
>
>
> > E17 on phones - let's see. I'm really keen to see it be able to do that.
> > If it
> > means making a phone sexy - I'm all over it like stink on stinky tofu. :)
>
> Great news !!!
>
> I am e17 user for some years ago after DR16 user so I know you was 
> specialized in embedded systems :)
>
> OpenMoko is a kind of a logical way for you :)
>
> great welcome and see you soon :)
>
> Steven (waiting for his Neo1973 GTA02 - EFL/OpenMoko :) )
>
>
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:56:26 +0800, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:59 +0100 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> 
>> Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!!
>> So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D
>> Wow!! I'm sooo excited!
> 
> Um Hi Guys! :)
> *bounce*
> 

Hi !


> E17 on phones - let's see. I'm really keen to see it be able to do that.
> If it
> means making a phone sexy - I'm all over it like stink on stinky tofu. :)

Great news !!!

I am e17 user for some years ago after DR16 user so I know you was specialized 
in embedded systems :)

OpenMoko is a kind of a logical way for you :)

great welcome and see you soon :)

Steven (waiting for his Neo1973 GTA02 - EFL/OpenMoko :) )


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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-02 Thread thomas.cooksey
>Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!!
>So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D
>Wow!! I'm sooo excited!

E17 is already running on the neo (in a fashion):
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8294545513.html

FancyPants is based on E17 - more info at
http://linuxdevices.com/files/article078/fst-fancypants-celf2007.pdf


Cheers,

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:59 +0100 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!!
> So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D
> Wow!! I'm sooo excited!

Um Hi Guys! :)
*bounce*

E17 on phones - let's see. I'm really keen to see it be able to do that. If it
means making a phone sexy - I'm all over it like stink on stinky tofu. :)

> Pietro
> 
> Sean Moss-Pultz ha scritto:
> > Dear Community,
> >
> > I'm extremely excited to announce that Carsten Haitzler (The 
> > Rasterman) has joined OpenMoko, Inc. The man hardly needs an 
> > introduction. Please just give him a warm welcome to our community / 
> > company ;-)
> >
> > Sean
> >
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-01 Thread Sudharshan S

On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 22:49 -0500, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> Dear Community,
> 
> I'm extremely excited to announce that Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) 
> has joined OpenMoko, Inc. The man hardly needs an introduction. Please 
> just give him a warm welcome to our community / company ;-)
> 
> Sean
> 

Wooh (Homer style),
Call me a moron, but I kinda had a feeling raster was upto something
after seeing him in #openmoko.
Now I am sure Openmoko would have a sexy UI to it..
E17 rocks btw, big fan of it...
Welcome aboard raster..

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-01 Thread Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano

Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!!
So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D
Wow!! I'm sooo excited!

Pietro

Sean Moss-Pultz ha scritto:

Dear Community,

I'm extremely excited to announce that Carsten Haitzler (The 
Rasterman) has joined OpenMoko, Inc. The man hardly needs an 
introduction. Please just give him a warm welcome to our community / 
company ;-)


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-11-01 Thread Jeremy G
Running e17 even as we speak.  Welcome aboard!

Jeremy

On 11/1/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Community,
>
> I'm extremely excited to announce that Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
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> just give him a warm welcome to our community / company ;-)
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2007-11-01 Thread Ryan Prior
How exciting. :-)
Let's give OpenMoko a killer GUI, okay?
BTW -- does this mean Enlightenment glitz for the Moko UI?

On 11/1/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Community,
>
> I'm extremely excited to announce that Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
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> just give him a warm welcome to our community / company ;-)
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2007-11-01 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz

Dear Community,

I'm extremely excited to announce that Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) 
has joined OpenMoko, Inc. The man hardly needs an introduction. Please 
just give him a warm welcome to our community / company ;-)


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Re: T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Hodson
On 8/20/07, Richard Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmm is there any way to use the t-Mobile at home service when in
> WiFi range if I don't care about disconnecting when I go out of WiFi
> range? The Asterix route seems very complex.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard
>
At this point its hard to say, however I would be willing to bet against it.

My understanding of reading about the UMA standard, is that the UMA
box your carrier lets you connect to your broadband connection
effectively becomes a GSM base station, except that it uses tcp/ip
networking to reach your carrier rather than private networks. It
talks to the network as if it were simply another cell site that you
are going in/out of.  Therefore, the signaling involved would somehow
need to take this into account.  This could prove to be either very
hard, or if something else is needed, perhaps a coordinated GSM/UMA
response, it may be impossible with the exact hardware that was
chosen.

I'm also not certain that tmobile would allow you to subscribe to the
service without having one of their preapproved phones.

In the coming months, this among many other questions is sure to be
answered definitively.

Regards,

Mike

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2007-08-20 Thread Richard Boehme
On 8/17/07, Mike Hodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/16/07, Richard Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone know how we can get the GTA02 onto this program? It seems
> > like we would be a natural fit, as GTA02 has Wi-Fi. Can any one just
> > contact T-Mobile about it and apply for developer status and say that
> > we want to be a part of the Hotsopt at Home program?
>
> This service requires a UMA/GAN capable phone; I do not believe the TI
> chipset used by the Neo has this ability.   I know more people are
> probably going to jump on the wifi calling bit, but UMA is decidedly a
> network-provided service.
>

Hmm is there any way to use the t-Mobile at home service when in
WiFi range if I don't care about disconnecting when I go out of WiFi
range? The Asterix route seems very complex.

Thanks.

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2007-08-17 Thread Mike Hodson
On 8/16/07, Richard Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know how we can get the GTA02 onto this program? It seems
> like we would be a natural fit, as GTA02 has Wi-Fi. Can any one just
> contact T-Mobile about it and apply for developer status and say that
> we want to be a part of the Hotsopt at Home program?

This service requires a UMA/GAN capable phone; I do not believe the TI
chipset used by the Neo has this ability.   I know more people are
probably going to jump on the wifi calling bit, but UMA is decidedly a
network-provided service.

Whereas wifi calling can be made anywhere with wifi using any SIP
provider (of course, the unknown quality of service "anywhere" not
withstanding), actually handing over from GSM to UMA isnt going to
happen unless the GSM modem and device software both support it / your
operator enables the feature on your account.  The alternatives
(hosted asterisk providers and the like, doing PBX stuff for you) are
out there, but none directly interacting with your cell number.

My plan: on my hosted virtual private server (a Xen instance on an
8-core opteron somewhere) I will be setting up asterisk for myself,
integrating into it a menu that prompts for voicemail, ring me cos its
an emergency, or whatnot, and then based on time of day / call blast
lists, it will try and find me.  This I plan to use before I get my
moko.  There should be some way while I'm talking to hit say, #, and
get a menu to 'transfer to home/ transfer to #' at which point i could
hit that, and hang up my cell; my landline will be ringing soon with
the call. With the moko, I am not sure what would be better; either
using a SIP client on the moko to link with my 1 asterisk server, or a
second asterisk instance on the moko itself, linking with the main
asterisk server, and also being used for GSM calls.  (I believe this
is doable at some point, linking an onboard asterisk process with the
gsm audio/signaling, stop me if im wrong!)

Heres a few good reads:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/27/t-mobile-goes-national-with-hotspot-home-wifi-calling/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Access_Network
I have yet to read much on Asterisk; that will be a weekend project here soon :)

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Re: T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-08-17 Thread Mikko Rauhala
to, 2007-08-16 kello 23:09 -0400, Richard Boehme kirjoitti:
> Does anyone know how we can get the GTA02 onto this program? It seems
> like we would be a natural fit, as GTA02 has Wi-Fi. Can any one just
> contact T-Mobile about it and apply for developer status and say that
> we want to be a part of the Hotsopt at Home program?

There was someone interested in doing that on the #openmoko channel
once, and I believe he found out that handover to/from wifi would
require access to protocols that the GSM chip doesn't (at least
documentedly) provide. One of those things for which you'd want the GSM
firmware source...

Apparently you'd still need something like a SIP provider that would
allow you to route calls to a GSM number if you want to be transparently
reachable via both wifi and GSM. None of this fanciness required, of
course, for simply having your calls initiate via wifi when available,
but then you'll lose the call if you wonder out of range. I believe I
saw someone starting work on that on #openmoko.

Disclaimer: I'm relaying this information from memory, and don't have
personal experience or knowledge of the GSM side of this matter.

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T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-08-16 Thread Richard Boehme
Does anyone know how we can get the GTA02 onto this program? It seems
like we would be a natural fit, as GTA02 has Wi-Fi. Can any one just
contact T-Mobile about it and apply for developer status and say that
we want to be a part of the Hotsopt at Home program?

Thanks.

Richard

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Re: UPS tracking number wrong, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] responds "permission denied"

2007-07-30 Thread Myk Melez

Myk Melez wrote:
I tried to reply to my "Order shipped" message, since the UPS tracking 
number listed in the message is not recognized by UPS's online package 
tracking app (it says the number is "not a valid tracking number"), 
but [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded "Permission denied" (see below).
Update: my wife says the package has arrived, so although the tracking 
number didn't work, UPS did actually ship the package.  Can't wait to 
return home from my trip and open it.


-myk


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Re: UPS tracking number wrong, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] responds "permission denied"

2007-07-30 Thread Myk Melez

Lon Lentz wrote:


  The number they gave you was probably issued to them by their UPS 
shipping program or from their shipping book. If it hasn't been picked 
up yet and processed by UPS' shipping system, it won't be recognized. 
Check back at the end of the day and you should be good to go.
Hmm, yeah, I've run into that before, but I got the email on July 26, 
four days ago, so I don't think that's the problem.


-myk


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Re: UPS tracking number wrong, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] responds "permission denied"

2007-07-30 Thread Lon Lentz
  The number they gave you was probably issued to them by their UPS shipping
program or from their shipping book. If it hasn't been picked up yet and
processed by UPS' shipping system, it won't be recognized. Check back at the
end of the day and you should be good to go.


On 7/30/07, Myk Melez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I tried to reply to my "Order shipped" message, since the UPS tracking
> number listed in the message is not recognized by UPS's online package
> tracking app (it says the number is "not a valid tracking number"), but
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded "Permission denied" (see below).
>
> How can I get a correct shipping number?
>
> -myk
>
>
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UPS tracking number wrong, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] responds "permission denied"

2007-07-30 Thread Myk Melez
I tried to reply to my "Order shipped" message, since the UPS tracking 
number listed in the message is not recognized by UPS's online package 
tracking app (it says the number is "not a valid tracking number"), but 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] responded "Permission denied" (see below).


How can I get a correct shipping number?

-myk


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