Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com babbled: Dylan Reilly schrieb: FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. WOOHOO!!! you made my day dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been done to the theme: Running the illume theme: Not sure about the cpu - but removing drop-shadow does stop the segfaults when running software_16 engine. Also the Settings app now runs, and for a short while at least I had a gsm signal level (maybe too low where I am at the moment). Billk I've seen Enlightenment running between 18% and 30% most of the time lately, with SHR. And I just discovered I am able to drop it to 3%-5% and bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen icons and using them under SHR - 256x256 png versions. (Why? Well, I like my icons big, but I hate them pixellated) Anyway, changing from the 256x256 Oxygen icons to the 86x86 SHR icons dropped me from 30% to 5%, restoring the big Oxy's brought me right back to 30%. j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:07:45 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com babbled: Dylan Reilly schrieb: FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. WOOHOO!!! you made my day dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been done to the theme: Running the illume theme: Not sure about the cpu - but removing drop-shadow does stop the segfaults when running software_16 engine. Also the Settings app now runs, and for a short while at least I had a gsm signal level (maybe too low where I am at the moment). Billk I've seen Enlightenment running between 18% and 30% most of the time lately, with SHR. And I just discovered I am able to drop it to 3%-5% and bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen icons and using them under SHR - 256x256 png versions. (Why? Well, I like my icons big, but I hate them pixellated) Anyway, changing from the 256x256 Oxygen icons to the 86x86 SHR icons dropped me from 30% to 5%, restoring the big Oxy's brought me right back to 30%. icons include battery too? -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto: Billk I've seen Enlightenment running between 18% and 30% most of the time lately, with SHR. And I just discovered I am able to drop it to 3%-5% and bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen icons and using them under SHR - 256x256 png versions. (Why? Well, I like my icons big, but I hate them pixellated) Anyway, changing from the 256x256 Oxygen icons to the 86x86 SHR icons dropped me from 30% to 5%, restoring the big Oxy's brought me right back to 30%. icons include battery too? Hi! Same problem here with a fresh installed (onto SD card) SHR (snapshot of 16 December w/ kernel of 14 December). Enlightenment takes 40-60% CPU but I was not able to find a solutions, will try this icon trick and let you know. Bye! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:23:42 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:07:45 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com babbled: Dylan Reilly schrieb: FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. WOOHOO!!! you made my day dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been done to the theme: Running the illume theme: Not sure about the cpu - but removing drop-shadow does stop the segfaults when running software_16 engine. Also the Settings app now runs, and for a short while at least I had a gsm signal level (maybe too low where I am at the moment). Billk I've seen Enlightenment running between 18% and 30% most of the time lately, with SHR. And I just discovered I am able to drop it to 3%-5% and bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen icons and using them under SHR - 256x256 png versions. (Why? Well, I like my icons big, but I hate them pixellated) Anyway, changing from the 256x256 Oxygen icons to the 86x86 SHR icons dropped me from 30% to 5%, restoring the big Oxy's brought me right back to 30%. icons include battery too? I'm just replacing the 'desktop' icons in the launcher, using Settings-Look-IconTheme. I had expected that it would take longer to initially display the launcher, with much larger png images to load and scale, but thought that once they were loaded and scaled it would perform essentially the same as smaller icons enlarged - literally the ONLY thing I do is select Oxygen vis SHR in Icon Theme and HUP enlightenment, and with the Oxys it sits there idling at an average about 27% CPU... j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:54:42 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:23:42 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:07:45 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com babbled: Dylan Reilly schrieb: FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. WOOHOO!!! you made my day dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been done to the theme: Running the illume theme: Not sure about the cpu - but removing drop-shadow does stop the segfaults when running software_16 engine. Also the Settings app now runs, and for a short while at least I had a gsm signal level (maybe too low where I am at the moment). Billk I've seen Enlightenment running between 18% and 30% most of the time lately, with SHR. And I just discovered I am able to drop it to 3%-5% and bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen icons and using them under SHR - 256x256 png versions. (Why? Well, I like my icons big, but I hate them pixellated) Anyway, changing from the 256x256 Oxygen icons to the 86x86 SHR icons dropped me from 30% to 5%, restoring the big Oxy's brought me right back to 30%. icons include battery too? I'm just replacing the 'desktop' icons in the launcher, using Settings-Look-IconTheme. I had expected that it would take longer to initially display the launcher, with much larger png images to load and scale, but thought that once they were loaded and scaled it would perform essentially the same as smaller icons enlarged - literally the ONLY thing I do is select Oxygen vis SHR in Icon Theme and HUP enlightenment, and with the Oxys it sits there idling at an average about 27% CPU... that's bizarre as that would imply its redrawing the icons too (evas scales on the fly - as images are not loaded and then fixed at a size - they can resize anytime anywhere just based on object properties so the scale is done as it draws. for things like GL or when things are accelerated - this is fast and what you want. in software it's a cost. i have an experimental scale cache patch here that puts in a cache of alreadys-caled data if used often enough... but the problem is.. it shouldnt make a difference unless its updating the area where the icons are... and that shouldnt be happening... unless something totally bizarre has gone on... and thats what i'm concerned about - the bit i dont know about (the redraws)). -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
Dylan Reilly schrieb: FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. WOOHOO!!! you made my day ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com babbled: Dylan Reilly schrieb: FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. WOOHOO!!! you made my day dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been done to the theme: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 1261 root 20 0 23892 15m 6312 S 4.3 12.6 18:58.82 python 1336 root 17 -3 22388 14m 6064 S 0.7 11.4 16:39.74 python 1338 root 10 -10 22596 11m 7388 S 0.0 9.4 7:43.75 enlightenment 1381 root 21 1 11020 2860 2080 S 0.0 2.3 0:01.33 enlightenment_f 1317 root 19 -1 9968 2852 1564 S 0.0 2.3 1:05.34 Xglamo 1387 root 21 1 4724 1516 1084 S 0.0 1.2 0:01.12 batget 0% cpu. it will consume a little cpu while charging (2-3%) (redrawing the blinking + on the battery). this is out-of-the-box theme with dropshadows on etc. (illume+e without shr/fdom/asu changes). e-wm - 0.16.999.050+svnr37919-r4 - -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
I definitely believe that it shouldn't be doing that and it was not always the case. I am certainly willing to accept there is something screwy with my upgrade path, but I did not do anything intentionally to the theme or defendant components. (The only thing that comes to mind that *might* be related is that I renice qpe to -5). Even if the 20% CPU utilization went away, removing drop shadows so the Software-16 engine can work seems worthwhile to me. angstrom-version - 1:-20081222-r1 e-wm - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 illume - 0.0+svnr36882-r14.06 illume-theme-illume - 0.0+svnr36882-r1.01 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:04 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com babbled: Dylan Reilly schrieb: FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. WOOHOO!!! you made my day dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been done to the theme: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 1261 root 20 0 23892 15m 6312 S 4.3 12.6 18:58.82 python 1336 root 17 -3 22388 14m 6064 S 0.7 11.4 16:39.74 python 1338 root 10 -10 22596 11m 7388 S 0.0 9.4 7:43.75 enlightenment 1381 root 21 1 11020 2860 2080 S 0.0 2.3 0:01.33 enlightenment_f 1317 root 19 -1 9968 2852 1564 S 0.0 2.3 1:05.34 Xglamo 1387 root 21 1 4724 1516 1084 S 0.0 1.2 0:01.12 batget 0% cpu. it will consume a little cpu while charging (2-3%) (redrawing the blinking + on the battery). this is out-of-the-box theme with dropshadows on etc. (illume+e without shr/fdom/asu changes). e-wm - 0.16.999.050+svnr37919-r4 - -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com babbled: Dylan Reilly schrieb: FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image) Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module, (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being used. Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So, now I get a snappier UI to boot. WOOHOO!!! you made my day dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been done to the theme: Running the illume theme: Not sure about the cpu - but removing drop-shadow does stop the segfaults when running software_16 engine. Also the Settings app now runs, and for a short while at least I had a gsm signal level (maybe too low where I am at the moment). Billk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
