Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Abell

bump.
any news on this?
I'm having the same issue in Om2009

Paul Fertser wrote:

Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes:
  

2009/5/26 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk:


I found that as well.  Is anyone able to comment on what HAL is being used for
in SHR-Unstable?  If it's simply been pulled in as a dependency (e.g. for
X.org) and isn't actively being used (e.g. by X.org for input management),
then it can be removed without breaking anything, which makes the problem go
away.
  

hal appears to be a dependency of xserver-kdrive-fbdev and
xserver-security-policy; is it actually critical for these packages,
or is thomas' assessment correct?

i'm getting the same problem of reported charge



This is a problem that needs to be fixed. For the time being it can be
easily workarounded by using internal method for the battery applet,
but a proper long-term solution is yet to be found.

For that one needs to contact HAL guys and ask them about how exactly
they recommend to use their battery-monitoring interfaces, both from
upper level (how an application should deal with current situation
where we have 1 apm emulation for the battery, one usb power supply
(that according to the hal sources is also considered a battery) and
one real battery) and a lower layer (that real battery monitoring
doesn't work because E's battery gadget assumes the presence of some
sysfs properties that our driver lacks, OTOH i couldn't find any
document describing which sysfs nodes really must be present to be
compliant and which are optional).

  
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Fertser
Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk writes:
 bump.
 any news on this?
 I'm having the same issue in Om2009

I'm now convinced that this is a problem in both hal and E's battery
gadget. If battery gadget didn't try to average percentages, it would
ignore both usb and apm batteries and calculate the right
value. So hal has oddities that can be considered bugs for sure but
otoh in my opinion battery gadget needs fixing as well (and after
fixing that hal's oddities would become irrelevant).

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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-05-31 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/26 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk:
 I found that as well.  Is anyone able to comment on what HAL is being used for
 in SHR-Unstable?  If it's simply been pulled in as a dependency (e.g. for
 X.org) and isn't actively being used (e.g. by X.org for input management),
 then it can be removed without breaking anything, which makes the problem go
 away.

hal appears to be a dependency of xserver-kdrive-fbdev and
xserver-security-policy; is it actually critical for these packages,
or is thomas' assessment correct?

i'm getting the same problem of reported charge

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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Fertser
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes:
 2009/5/26 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk:
 I found that as well.  Is anyone able to comment on what HAL is being used 
 for
 in SHR-Unstable?  If it's simply been pulled in as a dependency (e.g. for
 X.org) and isn't actively being used (e.g. by X.org for input management),
 then it can be removed without breaking anything, which makes the problem go
 away.

 hal appears to be a dependency of xserver-kdrive-fbdev and
 xserver-security-policy; is it actually critical for these packages,
 or is thomas' assessment correct?

 i'm getting the same problem of reported charge

This is a problem that needs to be fixed. For the time being it can be
easily workarounded by using internal method for the battery applet,
but a proper long-term solution is yet to be found.

For that one needs to contact HAL guys and ask them about how exactly
they recommend to use their battery-monitoring interfaces, both from
upper level (how an application should deal with current situation
where we have 1 apm emulation for the battery, one usb power supply
(that according to the hal sources is also considered a battery) and
one real battery) and a lower layer (that real battery monitoring
doesn't work because E's battery gadget assumes the presence of some
sysfs properties that our driver lacks, OTOH i couldn't find any
document describing which sysfs nodes really must be present to be
compliant and which are optional).

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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-05-25 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo  25. Mai 2009 schrieb The Digital Pioneer:
 Hey, after this latest bout of upgrades in SHR-Unstable, the battery applet
 up at the top is broken. It says I have a 32% charge with an estimated time
 remaining of 13 hours and 28 minutes. That's wrong, and if I look in the
 power section of SHR settings, it says I have 96% remaining with about 4
 hours left. That sounds a whole lot more likely. I've rebooted several times
 and run depmod -a and ldconfig, just stabbing in the dark, but neither had
 an effect.
 

check [illume-wrench]-[advanced]-[battery meter]-[advanced]-[hardware]
(x)auto-detect
(_)internal
(_)HAL

try internal. HAL is finding 3 batteries which 2 of them are always empty, 
so charge of bat is always a third of correct value ((100% + 0% + 0%) / 3) 

cheers
jOERG


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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-05-25 Thread Hermann Lacheiner
2009/5/25 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org:
 check [illume-wrench]-[advanced]-[battery meter]-[advanced]-[hardware]
 (x)auto-detect
 (_)internal
 (_)HAL

 try internal. HAL is finding 3 batteries which 2 of them are always empty,
 so charge of bat is always a third of correct value ((100% + 0% + 0%) / 3)

using internal shows the correct value, but the battery meter is
jumping back to auto-detect automagically after a few seconds.. :(

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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-05-25 Thread Thomas White
On Mon, 25 May 2009 14:23:36 +0200
Hermann Lacheiner hermann.lachei...@gmail.com wrote:

 using internal shows the correct value, but the battery meter is
 jumping back to auto-detect automagically after a few seconds.. :(

I found that as well.  Is anyone able to comment on what HAL is being used for
in SHR-Unstable?  If it's simply been pulled in as a dependency (e.g. for
X.org) and isn't actively being used (e.g. by X.org for input management),
then it can be removed without breaking anything, which makes the problem go
away.

Tom

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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-05-25 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Same here, internal works, but it changes back.
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