[debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread arne anka
i'm just checking out enlightenment with illume theme and am very confused  
about the icons shown on the desktop (launcher).
i am sure there has to be a setting where the apps to be listed are  
selectebale -- and yet, in the rather confusing settings (top shelf -  
wrench) i don't find anything.

so far i've seen that apparently
~/.e/e/appshadow/
contains everything displayed -- but that folder is populated with links  
 from /usr/share/applications/, which strikes me as rather odd, and is  
recretated everytime e crashes or is restarted, thereby removing _any_  
loacl change, with is not longer odd but inacceptable.

tapping and holding on the desktop's background doesn't either offer any  
possibility to configure the launcher's content.

so, where does one do that?

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Re: [debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread Steven **
I'm pretty sure Illume does not have support for categories or the
ability to hide apps (especially not through a menu).

Workarounds:
If you delete the .desktop file from /usr/share/applications/, it
won't be displayed.
If your .desktop file doesn't contain Type=Application, I don't think
it'll be displayed.


-Steven

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:43 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
 i'm just checking out enlightenment with illume theme and am very confused
 about the icons shown on the desktop (launcher).
 i am sure there has to be a setting where the apps to be listed are
 selectebale -- and yet, in the rather confusing settings (top shelf -
 wrench) i don't find anything.

 so far i've seen that apparently
 ~/.e/e/appshadow/
 contains everything displayed -- but that folder is populated with links
  from /usr/share/applications/, which strikes me as rather odd, and is
 recretated everytime e crashes or is restarted, thereby removing _any_
 loacl change, with is not longer odd but inacceptable.

 tapping and holding on the desktop's background doesn't either offer any
 possibility to configure the launcher's content.

 so, where does one do that?

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Re: [debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread arne anka
 I'm pretty sure Illume does not have support for categories or the
 ability to hide apps (especially not through a menu).

 Workarounds:
 If you delete the .desktop file from /usr/share/applications/, it
 won't be displayed.
 If your .desktop file doesn't contain Type=Application, I don't think
 it'll be displayed.

i remember distinctly a dialog popping up first time with a listing of  
apps and a checkbox for every app, to enable it.
can't get to that dialog again.
additionally: i want to add my very own apps to the launcher -- and that  
as _normal_ user.
since linux is a _multiuser_ operating system with separation of rights,  
it's unreasonable to expect _normal_ users to create/modify _global_ files  
(which the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ are).

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Re: [debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 24 September 2009, arne anka wrote:
  I'm pretty sure Illume does not have support for categories or the
  ability to hide apps (especially not through a menu).
 
  Workarounds:
  If you delete the .desktop file from /usr/share/applications/, it
  won't be displayed.
  If your .desktop file doesn't contain Type=Application, I don't think
  it'll be displayed.

 i remember distinctly a dialog popping up first time with a listing of
 apps and a checkbox for every app, to enable it.
 can't get to that dialog again.
 additionally: i want to add my very own apps to the launcher -- and that
 as _normal_ user.
 since linux is a _multiuser_ operating system with separation of rights,
 it's unreasonable to expect _normal_ users to create/modify _global_ files
 (which the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ are).

I think that selection dialog is for the enlightenment menu or something. It 
has no effect on what apps appear on the illume launcher as far as I can tell. 
The illume launcher is rather lacking in functionality as you have found. I'm 
sure Raster will gladly accept patches to improve the situation, but afaik 
nobody has written any.


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Re: [debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread arne anka
 I think that selection dialog is for the enlightenment menu or  
 something. It
 has no effect on what apps appear on the illume launcher as far as I can  
 tell.

uhm.
what exactly is the relationship between e and illume?
i always thought they were an item, so to speak.

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Re: [debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread Davide Scaini
i think that illume is a plugin (extension) of e.
just a sort of preset of e for small screens.
d

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:35 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

  I think that selection dialog is for the enlightenment menu or
  something. It
  has no effect on what apps appear on the illume launcher as far as I can
  tell.

 uhm.
 what exactly is the relationship between e and illume?
 i always thought they were an item, so to speak.

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Re: [debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko

 so, where does one do that?


There is a way, although it is a bit hacky. Or at least requires some 
typing :).

E supports xdg menu spec [1].

In that spec, menu is constructed using data from individual .desktop files 
under /usr/share/applications/. However, this process is controlled by 
definitions in a single menu file, residing in /etc/xdg/menus.

Which menu definition file to use, E asks you at first start. Remenber that 
debian-menu vs enlightenment-applications question?

You my not use any of these two, but write your own one.
It is in XML, and syntax allows you to include or exclude categories or 
individual menu items.

For example, mine has

Exclude Filenameopenmoko-panel-plugin.desktop/Filename /Exclude

line.

[1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html


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Re: [debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread arne anka
 Exclude Filenameopenmoko-panel-plugin.desktop/Filename /Exclude

 line.

 [1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html


ookaaay.
sounds, hm, usable :-)

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Re: [debian] e and illume: how to configure launcher icons?

2009-09-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:28:26 +0100 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk
said:

 On Thursday 24 September 2009, arne anka wrote:
   I'm pretty sure Illume does not have support for categories or the
   ability to hide apps (especially not through a menu).
  
   Workarounds:
   If you delete the .desktop file from /usr/share/applications/, it
   won't be displayed.
   If your .desktop file doesn't contain Type=Application, I don't think
   it'll be displayed.
 
  i remember distinctly a dialog popping up first time with a listing of
  apps and a checkbox for every app, to enable it.
  can't get to that dialog again.
  additionally: i want to add my very own apps to the launcher -- and that
  as _normal_ user.
  since linux is a _multiuser_ operating system with separation of rights,
  it's unreasonable to expect _normal_ users to create/modify _global_ files
  (which the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ are).
 
 I think that selection dialog is for the enlightenment menu or something. It 
 has no effect on what apps appear on the illume launcher as far as I can
 tell. The illume launcher is rather lacking in functionality as you have
 found. I'm sure Raster will gladly accept patches to improve the situation,
 but afaik nobody has written any.

launcher was basic to get the job done, and it id. it hasn't been touched since
though. :) i'm slowly gettign around to splitting illume up into policy (window
layout) vs shelf (the top bar), vkbd and launcher and other bits. u'll see
illume2 in svn as a module name, but its really more of a testbed for me
cleaning up the code and doing it right.


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The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com


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