Re: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] Devroom request: World of OpenPhoenux

2012-10-25 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Boudewijn,
great ideas!

Am 22.10.2012 um 22:43 schrieb Boudewijn:

> On Monday 22 October 2012 12:33:33 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> FYI.
>> 
>> To me it appears that they have less rooms to dispose than in the previous
>> years. I know one other project that did have a devroom in the past 10
>> years didn't get one like us. With almost the same wording. And there were
>> discussions about not using the AW building any more.
> Maybe everything from AW moves to the newer building? It would be more 
> practical in general, and warmer, but AW got many smaller rooms. :-(
> 
>> So what are your ideas about going to FOSDEM? Plans for presentations to
>> submit to other devrooms? Some informal meeting? Should we have a Stand?
> Could we transform a stand to a devstand? The tables are a bit unstable and 
> usually close to the wall, due to space constraints in AW. I think I can take 
> a projector with me. I don't have a sreen though. If we have a large enought 
> table, and enough chairs, we might do something more organized than trying to 
> hear what peoplo on the other side of the table are saying. 

Interesting idea! I think we have some FREEdom to modify the stand they provide
(provided we get one - the call for project stands isn't even out yet).

> 
> Besides a projector I can take an (older) LCD's with me (1280x1024 I hope, 
> 17"). Can the TV-out on GTA04 be hacked into supplying some signal that's 
> suitable for VGA? There are passive adapters available, and active adapters 
> in 
> the "wrong" direction (I did see adapters to connect the VGA-out to s-
> video/YUV input, but not the other way around). 

Hm. I do not know how well the distros run on TVout which has a different screen
aspect ratio and size. Another option could be VNC or X11 forwarding.

> 
> Is there some hackable project we could run with the left-over Freerunner 
> mainboards? I still want to turn mine into a webserver (later, "when I'm 
> grown 
> up"), but with a couple of them we could maybe do some hide-and-seek with 
> mesh 
> networking (either WIFI or BT, to let Neo1979 play as well) and trying to 
> detect them with our GTA04s. 
> 
> It all needs preparation of course, but if we first flood the list with 
> ideas, 
> we can pick some feasible plans out of them. The least we can do, is have 
> last 
> year's presentation running in a loop on one screen and (all?) our videos on 
> another. Especially: on a big screen, since our devices are so miniature...

Yes, we did not get that attention - even our Poster was too small and not on
the wall behind us. So it did not get noticed.

So we need something attracting, and a movie is definitively more attracting
visitors than any piece of paper.

> 
> One more: if "we" (sorry, I'd feel much better saying "I", but ..:-( ) get 
> the 
> FM radio running before then, we can broadcast sound for the presentation to 
> mobile speakers. 
> 
> On a side note (and no plug intended): I'm involved in Limesco, the dutch 
> telco start-up that is "open organisation"/hacker friendly. I'm not sure 
> whether Limesco will be at FOSDEM, but I imagine it to be somewhat connected 
> to our project. To my knowledge, there is no equivalent to it in another 
> country. The options are still limited, due to small scale (sounds familiar). 
> One "special feature" that is available now, is to route voice calls through 
> your own server, instead of that of the telco. Does something like that offer 
> possibilities for something interesting during FOSDEM? 
> 
> Are there some easily made GTA04 hardware extensions we could offer people to 
> solder in 20-40 minutes under guidance? 

AFAIK not yet.

> 
> There must be some visitors from previous years on the list as well. How was 
> our stand perceived last year? 

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Boudewijn

BR,
Nikolaus



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Re: Fwd: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] Devroom request: World of OpenPhoenux

2012-10-22 Thread Boudewijn
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:33:33 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> FYI.
> 
> To me it appears that they have less rooms to dispose than in the previous
> years. I know one other project that did have a devroom in the past 10
> years didn't get one like us. With almost the same wording. And there were
> discussions about not using the AW building any more.
Maybe everything from AW moves to the newer building? It would be more 
practical in general, and warmer, but AW got many smaller rooms. :-(

> So what are your ideas about going to FOSDEM? Plans for presentations to
> submit to other devrooms? Some informal meeting? Should we have a Stand?
Could we transform a stand to a devstand? The tables are a bit unstable and 
usually close to the wall, due to space constraints in AW. I think I can take 
a projector with me. I don't have a sreen though. If we have a large enought 
table, and enough chairs, we might do something more organized than trying to 
hear what peoplo on the other side of the table are saying. 

Besides a projector I can take an (older) LCD's with me (1280x1024 I hope, 
17"). Can the TV-out on GTA04 be hacked into supplying some signal that's 
suitable for VGA? There are passive adapters available, and active adapters in 
the "wrong" direction (I did see adapters to connect the VGA-out to s-
video/YUV input, but not the other way around). 

Is there some hackable project we could run with the left-over Freerunner 
mainboards? I still want to turn mine into a webserver (later, "when I'm grown 
up"), but with a couple of them we could maybe do some hide-and-seek with mesh 
networking (either WIFI or BT, to let Neo1979 play as well) and trying to 
detect them with our GTA04s. 

It all needs preparation of course, but if we first flood the list with ideas, 
we can pick some feasible plans out of them. The least we can do, is have last 
year's presentation running in a loop on one screen and (all?) our videos on 
another. Especially: on a big screen, since our devices are so miniature...

One more: if "we" (sorry, I'd feel much better saying "I", but ..:-( ) get the 
FM radio running before then, we can broadcast sound for the presentation to 
mobile speakers. 

On a side note (and no plug intended): I'm involved in Limesco, the dutch 
telco start-up that is "open organisation"/hacker friendly. I'm not sure 
whether Limesco will be at FOSDEM, but I imagine it to be somewhat connected 
to our project. To my knowledge, there is no equivalent to it in another 
country. The options are still limited, due to small scale (sounds familiar). 
One "special feature" that is available now, is to route voice calls through 
your own server, instead of that of the telco. Does something like that offer 
possibilities for something interesting during FOSDEM? 

Are there some easily made GTA04 hardware extensions we could offer people to 
solder in 20-40 minutes under guidance? 

There must be some visitors from previous years on the list as well. How was 
our stand perceived last year? 

Best regards,

Boudewijn


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Fwd: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] Devroom request: World of OpenPhoenux

2012-10-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
FYI.

To me it appears that they have less rooms to dispose than in the previous 
years. I know one other project that did have a devroom in the past 10 years 
didn't get one like us. With almost the same wording. And there were 
discussions about not using the AW building any more.

So what are your ideas about going to FOSDEM? Plans for presentations to submit 
to other devrooms? Some informal meeting? Should we have a Stand?

BR,
Nikolaus
 

Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:

> Von: Tias Guns 
> Datum: 21. Oktober 2012 20:42:09 MESZ
> An: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" 
> Kopie: devro...@fosdem.org
> Betreff: Re: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] Devroom request: World of OpenPhoenux
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm sorry to inform you that we declined your devroom proposal.
> 
> To clarify, your request was perfectly valid, but we had to choose. 
> Unfortunately we do not have a sufficient number of rooms at our disposal to 
> cover all requests.
> 
> Nevertheless, there are other ways to participate in FOSDEM too. A call for 
> participation will be announced around next week, with opportunities to:
> - have a stand at FOSDEM,
> - hold a 15 minute 'lightningtalk' in one of the biggest rooms,
> - speak in one of the other devrooms.
> 
> In particular, you might be interested in the 'embedded and mobile' devroom.
> 
> 
> On behalf of the FOSDEM devroom team,
> Tias
> 
> On 09/30/2012 09:14 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> * Devroom name: World of OpenPhoenux
>> 
>> * Description
>> 
>> OpenPhoenux is a new roof project to cover all previous and future 
>> developments
>> initiated by Openmoko to develop really free and open mobile systems 
>> spanning from
>> GUI and applications over middleware down to hardware. Therefore it intends 
>> to give a
>> home and space for exchange between developers of the following projects:
>> 
>> * Openmoko
>> * SHR - Software stack
>> * QtMoko - Software stack
>> * FSF PowerVR reverse engineering initiative
>> * FSF Replicant - completely free Android compatible software stack
>> * FSO - middleware
>> * GTA04 - FLOSS friendly mobile hardware platform
>> * OpenPandora - FLOSS friendly handheld game console
>> ... more will be invited to contribute
>> 
>> * Project URLs:
>> - http://www.openmoko.org
>> - http://www.openphoenux.org
>> - http://shr-project.org
>> - http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/
>> - http://powervr.gnu.org.ve/
>> - http://replicant.us/
>> - http://www.freesmartphone.org
>> - http://www.gta04.org
>> - http://www.openpandora.org
>> 
>> * Preferred day: Sunday morning (3-4h appears to be sufficient); small room 
>> appears to suffice
>> 
>> * Why should FOSDEM accept this proposal?
>> because this set of projects needs a common room to meet, discuss and 
>> exchange
>> ideas. IMHO these topics should not be fragmented amongst several sessions 
>> like
>> mobile, embedded, graphics, distro,  but should be focussed on the 
>> common goal.
>> FOSDEM appears the only world-wide event where developers and enthusiasts of
>> all of these projects have a chance to meet in a single place to work on a 
>> common
>> picture.
>> 
>> * Contact:
>> Nikolaus Schaller, h...@computer.org
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Devroom request: World of OpenPhoenux

2012-09-24 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all (sorry for cross-posting so heavily - please try to answer to *one* list 
only),

this is a draft for a request for a FOSDEM (2nd&3rd Feb 2013) devroom.
The deadline for submission is 1st Oct.

https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_devrooms.html

If you have ideas how to increase the likelyhood that we get such a devroom,
please make your suggestions early enough before the deadline.

Nikolaus

-

* Devroom name: World of OpenPhoenux

* Description

OpenPhoenux is a new roof project to cover all previous and future developments
initiated by Openmoko to develop really free and open mobile systems spanning 
from
GUI and applications over middleware down to hardware. Therefore it intends to 
give a
home and space for exchange between developers of the following projects:

* Openmoko
* SHR - Software stack
* QtMoko - Software stack
* FSF PowerVR reverse engineering initiative
* FSF Replicant - completely free Android compatible software stack
* FSO - middleware
* GTA04 - FLOSS friendly hardware platform
... more to come

* Project URLs:
- http://www.openmoko.org
- http://www.openphoenux.org
- http://shr-project.org
- http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/
- http://powervr.gnu.org.ve/
- http://replicant.us/
- http://www.freesmartphone.org
- http://www.gta04.org

* Preferred day: Sunday morning (3-4h appears to be sufficient); small room 
appears to suffice

* Why should FOSDEM accept this proposal?
because this set of projects needs a common room to meet and discuss and these
topics should not be fragmented amongst several sessions like mobile, embedded,
graphics,  but should be focussed. FOSDEM appears the only world-wide event
where developers of all of these projects have a chance to meet in a single 
place.

* Contact:
Nikolaus Schaller, h...@computer.org
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