Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
/me hopes a quick answer from Michael I'm OK to rebuy a PVT prototype, even if it has a defect somewhere :) Just to say I have one of the prototypes ! And what is climatic testing? Put a phone under a shower and measure how long it takes to die? :) Sebastien ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
On 3/20/08, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... And what is climatic testing? Put a phone under a shower and measure how long it takes to die? :) Sebastien Normally a burn-in test is used, where the device is in a high temperature chamber to see if it survives. I guess the climatic testing includes this and maybe also a cold chamber to verify that it will not get condens damage. -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: URL:http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
Sébastien Lorquet wrote: /me hopes a quick answer from Michael I'm OK to rebuy a PVT prototype, even if it has a defect somewhere :) Just to say I have one of the prototypes ! Sorry we cannot sell these devices. Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 à 00:21 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit : Sébastien Lorquet wrote: /me hopes a quick answer from Michael I'm OK to rebuy a PVT prototype, even if it has a defect somewhere :) Just to say I have one of the prototypes ! Sorry we cannot sell these devices. Sean Maybe you can give it ;) Sorry for the list noise, could not resist. -- Alexandre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
Shawn wrote: Do you need people to physically test the phones that are being run on this process? (: The best way for them to test the devices are created uniformly is to test them uniformly, so it's pretty much a given that a QA team at Openmoko will test every unit coming off the line, not the Openmoko Community, as bad as we'd all love to help. -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
Hi everyone, I just received from Steve further details of the manufacturing process we have planned. I quote: Bringing a product to mass production goes through several steps. For Freerunner, since we intend it to be usable by the mass market, we are being very diligent. Here are the milestones: Design Verification Testing (DVT) - A 100 or so phones have been built for design verification testing. These are based on A5. These phones are ready to enter testing. This testing will include: FUNCTIONAL TESTING PERFORMANCE TESTING COMPLIANCE ( like FCC and CE) CLIMATIC TESTING When DVT is completed successfully to the satisfaction of all parties involved, we start PVT: Pilot Verification Test (PVT) - PVT is staged to go. This means we have the parts in the factory ready to do the build and we are analyzing the results of DVT. In PVT we are looking to perfect the design for production so that we get a good yield when we decide to build a million phones. The PVT runs are staggered: for example, we may build 100 phones and test them, then make a minor change and build another 100, tweak again and then perhaps build 200. Repeat until we verify that the product is ready for true mass production. Steve explicitly says: If the community would like, I will update them on each and every stage. (I've already answered yes for all of you :-) Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
Michael Shiloh wrote: If the community would like, I will update them on each and every stage. (I've already answered yes for all of you :-) Ehehe... I think you couldn't say differently :). We're all waiting for DVT news, so! :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
Subject: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner Date: Wed 19 Mar 08 11:55:44AM -0700 Quoting Michael Shiloh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The PVT runs are staggered: for example, we may build 100 phones and test them, then make a minor change and build another 100, tweak again and then perhaps build 200. Repeat until we verify that the product is ready for true mass production. I am just curious: what do you do with these hundreds of phones that come out of test runs? After all due tests are performed on them, could they be offered as a sort of lottery draw to list contributors? (without any warranty, at a reduced price, you name it...) Or do they just throw them in the garbage bin?!? (just hoping 8-) Carlo -- * Se la Strada e la sua Virtu' non fossero state messe da parte, * K * Carlo E. Prelz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] che bisogno ci sarebbe * di parlare tanto di amore e di rettitudine? (Chuang-Tzu) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
Yeah, the thought of seeing hundreds of Freerunners being thrown away at the expense of the manufacturing process makes me cry a little. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner Date: Wed 19 Mar 08 11:55:44AM -0700 Quoting Michael Shiloh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The PVT runs are staggered: for example, we may build 100 phones and test them, then make a minor change and build another 100, tweak again and then perhaps build 200. Repeat until we verify that the product is ready for true mass production. I am just curious: what do you do with these hundreds of phones that come out of test runs? After all due tests are performed on them, could they be offered as a sort of lottery draw to list contributors? (without any warranty, at a reduced price, you name it...) Or do they just throw them in the garbage bin?!? (just hoping 8-) Carlo -- * Se la Strada e la sua Virtu' non fossero state messe da parte, * K * Carlo E. Prelz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] che bisogno ci sarebbe * di parlare tanto di amore e di rettitudine? (Chuang-Tzu) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner
Carlo E. Prelz wrote: I am just curious: what do you do with these hundreds of phones that come out of test runs? After all due tests are performed on them, could they be offered as a sort of lottery draw to list contributors? (without any warranty, at a reduced price, you name it...) Or do they just throw them in the garbage bin?!? For what it's worth, it used to be--this is back in the 90s--that when Apple produced prototypes, EVT units, PVT units, etc., Apple was able to take the cost of making them (and a prototype could cost upwards of $50,000) as a Federal tax deduction as long as the units were destroyed. That's changed now, but there may be other similar issues in other geographies. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
