Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
At 9:18 +0100 05/02/11, Glenn Moeller-Holst wrote: ... 9th January 2011, Bcm4329 driver source code: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906628 Quote: "... I tried many ways, last modified module name, unexpectedly successful, it is funny. ... I use a new version of the driver code, modify and compiled, try several Dflags, the result is the timeout or hardlock, so I deleted all code. Then, I started from scratch,redownload code from http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p...n/broadcom.git , Made a small change, even successful. ... the upgrade seems stable to me! ... Thanks, worked great for my kernel as well (2.6.32.9) but still can't enable IPv6. It would just give me an error on wifi. Any ideas? ... http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p...961c249174f304 Update to FW version 4.218.248.6 ... GOT IT!! Working IPv6 with good range ..." Glenn Hi Patryk Not besides the above. regards, Glenn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
Dnia 2011-02-05, sob o godzinie 08:46 +0100, Glenn pisze: > Another hardware suggestion for GTA04Ax: > > This chip could be a candidate for dual-band wi-fi (2,4 and 5,4GHz), > Bluetooth and FM transceiver: [cut] Hi Glenn, You have provided a lot of info, but do you know if there is open source driver for this chip? AFAIR GTA04 was supposed to be as "open" as possible? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
Bcm4329. Driver has some issues...dichiara as : *Androidi specific driver *No cfg80211 *can have wext...but no standard scanning Denis Sentire from a mobile device Glenn ha scritto: Another hardware suggestion for GTA04Ax: This chip could be a candidate for dual-band wi-fi (2,4 and 5,4GHz), Bluetooth and FM transceiver: Broadcom BCM4329: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329 Quote: "... The BCM4329 also utilizes advanced design techniques and process technologies to reduce active and idle power consumption and extend battery life. ... # Broadcom's most integrated 65 nm single-chip combo device with single-band (2.4 GHz) 802.11b/g/n or dual-band (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) 802.11a/b/g/n, plus Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM receiver and transmitter features ... # Full featured, on-chip Power Management Unit supporting direct battery (2.3V to 5.5V) connection ..." Broadcom - VoIP Android Tablet Support: http://www.thesearethedroids.com/2010/02/09/broadcom-voip-android-tablet-support/ Quote: "... As part of the Mobile World Congress demonstrations next week, Broadcom is also showcasing Android support across a range of other solutions including: ... Multi-chip Android support in a consumer multimedia tablet device based on the BCM11211 VoIP processor and leverages the BCM1181 for multimedia processing, the BCM4329 for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, and the BCM4750 for GPS. ..." Search: http://www.google.dk/search?q=linux+BCM4329+driver http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg43910.html Quote: "... In case you haven't seen this yet, Broadcom has an open (!) driver on the Android git tree with support for SDIO/SPI for bcm4329. http://tinyurl.com/broadcom-android-bcm4329 [ http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=tree ] The commit log entry dated 2009-10-29 states: Linux WLAN driver for BCM4329 - Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth(R) 2.1+ EDR and FM (Tx and Rx) ..." http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg43951.html Quote: "... While this driver is currently used for Android, there is nothing that precludes its use on non-Android flavors of Linux. ..." http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699135 Quote: "... Looking through the teardown from iFixit.com, the EVO has the same Wifi/Bluetooth chip as the Nexus 1 and Droid Incredible: BCM4329 ... Froyo has it ..." BCM4329: http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=BCM4329 Quote: "... This is the radio chip that is being used in the iPod touch 3G, iPad, iPhone 4, iPod touch 4G, and Apple TV 2G. ..." Network World, 09/11/2009, 11n Wi-Fi chip discovered in new iPod Touch: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/091109-ipod-touch-broadcom.html Citat: "... The new Apple iPod Touch uses a Wi-Fi chip that can support the just-approved high-throughput 802.11n standard, though Apple apparently has not switched on the cranked-up wireless link. The single chip combines 802.11n with 802.11abg, Bluetooth, and FM radio. It runs in both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. Full details are in the company's data sheet for the chip. ..." Maybe there is already an Ipod Touch 11n wi-fi driver: http://www.rockbox.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox What is Rockbox? Why should I use it?: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox Freemyipod: http://www.freemyipod.org/ December 9, 2008 Broadcom introduces combo 802.11n chip: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10119038-94.html - http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/wifi-support-need-wpa2-7116/index2.html Quote: "... Android doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise. You need wifihelper to TRY if it works. I have the same issue, my university uses WPA2 enterprise... no luck connecting... ... Download "wifi Helper" from the Android Market by Fan Zhang. Use it to setup your wpa_supplicants file; engineering mode requires the Pro version (at 0.99 USD, it's worth it...) If you experience problems scanning for networks (this happened to me upon first installation)... make sure you have set "Allow Always" when wifiHelper asks for root permissions while running, and double check your configuration by using "Manage Configurations", and re-enter if necessary after setting the "Allow Always" permissions. ..." - BCM4329 test: April 21, 2010 iPad WiFi Woes - Myth or Reality?: http://www.padgadget.com/2010/04/21/ipad-wifi-woes-myth-or-reality/ Quote: "... To keep it simple, we mainly focused on signal quality, as well as the average download speed the devices could sustain. ... # iPad (WiFi-only model): iPhone OS 3.2, 16GB Flash, WiFi via Broadcom BCM4329XKUBG (basically a BCM4322AG with Bluetooth support, driver version unknown) ... Results Signal Strength Let's be clear, the iPad performed decently, but performance was not on par with the MacBook and the HP Tablet PC. First things first, range. It is obvious that the iPad's WiFi range is limited compared to the other devices, very likely due to the fact that the Wif
Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 09:18 +0100, Glenn Moeller-Holst wrote: > 9th January 2011, Bcm4329 driver source code: > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906628 > Quote: "... > I tried many ways, last modified module name, unexpectedly > successful, it is funny. I wouldn't go for an android driver, That driver doesn't have cfg80211. It has only WEXT, and WEXT scanning(iwlist eth0 scan) doesn't work because the scanning method is non-standard(iwpriv) It could be modified to support scanning, but then what if a stack like SHR or FSO start depending on libnl for wifi? I think other drivers like wl1271 are better, they should be more standard as they are integrated in the linux kernel. wl1271 even supports AP mode. wl1271 also has a redistributable firmware now. >From Kconfig: " CONFIG_WL12XX: This module adds support for wireless adapters based on TI wl1271 and TI wl1273 chipsets. This module does *not* include support for wl1251. For wl1251 support, use the separate homonymous driver instead. " Does the chip need to have android support too? Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
A little more: Welcome to Broadcom's Resource Center, your source for information about Broadcom's technologies and products: http://www.broadcom.com/press/resource_center.php?year=-1&type=&category=4&action=View (lot of pdfs) BCM4325 White Paper (with inner block diagram - contains two ARMs?): http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/wp/4325-WP100-R.pdf Or maybe searh via google?: Googled "bcm4325 ext:pdf" - Not the right driver, but maybe a hint?: 802.11 Linux STA driver: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php Quote: "... All Linux operating-system-specific code is provided in source form, making it possible to retarget to different kernel versions and fix operating system related issues. NOTE: You must read the LICENSE.TXT file in the lib directory before using this software. Support questions for the latest version of these drivers may be directed to linux-wlan-client-support-list at broadcom.com. ..." Glenn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
Here are an EU (german) contacts: http://www.broadcom.com/contact/sales_offices.php Press "Europe" at the top: Broadcom Corporation Broadcom Germany Tel: +49 8742 918710 Fax: +49 8742 918472 Stefan Rinberger stef...@broadcom.com kind regards, Glenn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
At 18:04 +0100 07/02/11, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Hi Glenn, Am 05.02.2011 um 09:18 schrieb Glenn Moeller-Holst: With block diagram: BCM4329 Product Brief: http://pdf.eccn.com/pdfs/Datasheets/Broadcom/BCM4329.pdf Quote: "... Supports IEEE 802.11d/e (WMM, QoS, WMM-PS), h, i, j (upgrades available for k, r, w) ... Operating Frequencies: 2.4 - 2.497 GHz 4.9 - 5.85 GHz [ which means that should also support ch 100-140 ] ..." It indeed looks interesting and a little more integrated than the current combination we have with the Wi2Wi and the Si4721. And it adds 802.11a... What I could not find is a complete datasheet stating something about the dimensions of the chip. And how easily we can connect the antennas. The block diagram shows two external "switches" whatever they are intended for. Finally, we need some source to buy the chips. It does not help to find the latest of the latest if we can't get them in small quantities from a more or less standard distributor. We already have too many special chips with a single source only and a single missing part is stopping everything... For the Wi2Wi we have at least 3 distributors (even Mouser but they are a little expensive). And for the Si4721 we can go back to the pin-compatible Si4705 which is in stock with DigiKey... So any ideas where to get Broadcom chips / samples / data sheets? BR, Nikolaus ___ Gta04-owner mailing list gta04-ow...@goldelico.com http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/gta04-owner Hi Nikolaus It might be possible to get an account - I have no idea - have you tried to ask for one? Or ask for distributors in EU? Samples?: http://www.broadcom.com/support/ Quote: "... Broadcom provides access to technical documentation for registered customers through our Customer Support Portal. To request an account, please contact your Sales/Engineering contacts at Broadcom or its Distributors/Manufacturer's representatives directly. ..." I have no idea if these index pages/refered shops "are for real": Slow page: Purchase BCM4329, In-stock BCM4329 From SeekIC. http://www.seekic.com/icdata/BCM4329.html Home > For Buyer > Search: BCM4329: http://www.seekic.com/buyer/search.html?keyword=BCM4329&x=0&y=0 Electronic Components BCM4329 Search Result for Sale http://www.ic2ic.com/search.jsp?sSearchWord=BCM4329 - http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/ Quote: "... Last summer, Broadcom suddenly and quietly reversed its anti-Linux policies by releasing drivers for certain Broadcom wireless cards. Most of the source code is closed, and at this point only a handful of chipsets (mostly newer ones) are supported. But this development, which has remained more or less under the radar, nonetheless has important implications that extend well beyond the wireless scene. ..." 802.11 Linux STA driver: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php regards, Glenn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
With block diagram: BCM4329 Product Brief: http://pdf.eccn.com/pdfs/Datasheets/Broadcom/BCM4329.pdf Quote: "... Supports IEEE 802.11d/e (WMM, QoS, WMM-PS), h, i, j (upgrades available for k, r, w) ... Operating Frequencies: 2.4 - 2.497 GHz 4.9 - 5.85 GHz [ which means that should also support ch 100-140 ] ..." - 9th January 2011, Bcm4329 driver source code: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906628 Quote: "... I tried many ways, last modified module name, unexpectedly successful, it is funny. ... I use a new version of the driver code, modify and compiled, try several Dflags, the result is the timeout or hardlock, so I deleted all code. Then, I started from scratch,redownload code from http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p...n/broadcom.git, Made a small change, even successful. ... the upgrade seems stable to me! ... Thanks, worked great for my kernel as well (2.6.32.9) but still can't enable IPv6. It would just give me an error on wifi. Any ideas? ... http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p...961c249174f304 Update to FW version 4.218.248.6 ... GOT IT!! Working IPv6 with good range ..." Glenn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)
Another hardware suggestion for GTA04Ax: This chip could be a candidate for dual-band wi-fi (2,4 and 5,4GHz), Bluetooth and FM transceiver: Broadcom BCM4329: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329 Quote: "... The BCM4329 also utilizes advanced design techniques and process technologies to reduce active and idle power consumption and extend battery life. ... # Broadcom's most integrated 65 nm single-chip combo device with single-band (2.4 GHz) 802.11b/g/n or dual-band (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) 802.11a/b/g/n, plus Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM receiver and transmitter features ... # Full featured, on-chip Power Management Unit supporting direct battery (2.3V to 5.5V) connection ..." Broadcom - VoIP Android Tablet Support: http://www.thesearethedroids.com/2010/02/09/broadcom-voip-android-tablet-support/ Quote: "... As part of the Mobile World Congress demonstrations next week, Broadcom is also showcasing Android support across a range of other solutions including: ... Multi-chip Android support in a consumer multimedia tablet device based on the BCM11211 VoIP processor and leverages the BCM1181 for multimedia processing, the BCM4329 for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, and the BCM4750 for GPS. ..." Search: http://www.google.dk/search?q=linux+BCM4329+driver http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg43910.html Quote: "... In case you haven't seen this yet, Broadcom has an open (!) driver on the Android git tree with support for SDIO/SPI for bcm4329. http://tinyurl.com/broadcom-android-bcm4329 [ http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=tree ] The commit log entry dated 2009-10-29 states: Linux WLAN driver for BCM4329 - Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth(R) 2.1+ EDR and FM (Tx and Rx) ..." http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg43951.html Quote: "... While this driver is currently used for Android, there is nothing that precludes its use on non-Android flavors of Linux. ..." http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699135 Quote: "... Looking through the teardown from iFixit.com, the EVO has the same Wifi/Bluetooth chip as the Nexus 1 and Droid Incredible: BCM4329 ... Froyo has it ..." BCM4329: http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=BCM4329 Quote: "... This is the radio chip that is being used in the iPod touch 3G, iPad, iPhone 4, iPod touch 4G, and Apple TV 2G. ..." Network World, 09/11/2009, 11n Wi-Fi chip discovered in new iPod Touch: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/091109-ipod-touch-broadcom.html Citat: "... The new Apple iPod Touch uses a Wi-Fi chip that can support the just-approved high-throughput 802.11n standard, though Apple apparently has not switched on the cranked-up wireless link. The single chip combines 802.11n with 802.11abg, Bluetooth, and FM radio. It runs in both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. Full details are in the company's data sheet for the chip. ..." Maybe there is already an Ipod Touch 11n wi-fi driver: http://www.rockbox.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox What is Rockbox? Why should I use it?: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox Freemyipod: http://www.freemyipod.org/ December 9, 2008 Broadcom introduces combo 802.11n chip: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10119038-94.html - http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/wifi-support-need-wpa2-7116/index2.html Quote: "... Android doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise. You need wifihelper to TRY if it works. I have the same issue, my university uses WPA2 enterprise... no luck connecting... ... Download "wifi Helper" from the Android Market by Fan Zhang. Use it to setup your wpa_supplicants file; engineering mode requires the Pro version (at 0.99 USD, it's worth it...) If you experience problems scanning for networks (this happened to me upon first installation)... make sure you have set "Allow Always" when wifiHelper asks for root permissions while running, and double check your configuration by using "Manage Configurations", and re-enter if necessary after setting the "Allow Always" permissions. ..." - BCM4329 test: April 21, 2010 iPad WiFi Woes - Myth or Reality?: http://www.padgadget.com/2010/04/21/ipad-wifi-woes-myth-or-reality/ Quote: "... To keep it simple, we mainly focused on signal quality, as well as the average download speed the devices could sustain. ... # iPad (WiFi-only model): iPhone OS 3.2, 16GB Flash, WiFi via Broadcom BCM4329XKUBG (basically a BCM4322AG with Bluetooth support, driver version unknown) ... Results Signal Strength Let's be clear, the iPad performed decently, but performance was not on par with the MacBook and the HP Tablet PC. First things first, range. It is obvious that the iPad's WiFi range is limited compared to the other devices, very likely due to the fact that the Wifi antenna is hidden behind a thick piece of aluminum and plastic (behind the Apple logo, on the back). ... When we used the much less crowded 5.0GHz band, the iPad's s