Re: Which Java JRE? (dusting off this thred)
Eric Smith writes: > Is anyone using a JRE on the freerunner? > > Please advice what is possible and available. http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2011/02/msg00011.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which Java JRE? (dusting off this thred)
Is anyone using a JRE on the freerunner? Please advice what is possible and available. Thanks a lot. -- - Eric Smith Rafael Campos said: > Hello, > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Arigead wrote: > > Bernd Pru"nster wrote: > >> Martin Jansa wrote: > >>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:06:35PM +, Arigead wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello all, > >>>> I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the > >>>> project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) > >>>> > >>>> Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on > >>>> anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another > >>>> day. > >>>> > >>>> I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on > >>>> the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. > >>>> Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system > >>>> uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does > >>>> not suit our system. > >>>> > >>> No idea if it would be better, but have you tried cacao? Its in shr-feeds > >>> now again. > >>> > >> This is really weird! > >> I wrtoe one more or less serious app in java for the freerunner and a > >> couple of test apps and jamvm had avery fast startup, but was not as > >> compatible as cacao, but easier to use and did not require that much > >> ressources. > >> which distro are you using? which feed are you using to install jamvm > >> (dunno if still true but there used to be a difference depending on > >> where you installed it from). > >> > > > > Sorry I've been a bit busy on stuff and only now catching up here on the > > list. > > > > I'm using the latest classpath 0.98 and Jamvm 1.5.3 I can't remember > > the specifics at the moment but there was some feature of Java 6 that > > our system's code was using which required JamVM 1.5.3 which in turn > > required Classpath 0.98. I just used a OE recipe for those and build > > them for the OpenMoko. > > > > I tried the Cacao JRE on my eeePC and it soaked up resources as well so > > I never even bothered to build it for the phone. Obviously something in > > our Java System, mabe knophlerfish is not streamlined in these JRE's. > > There is a Huge difference in running our system in a SUN JRE (1% CPU > > According top) and other Jre's > > > > I'm working now on the eeePC to see can I reduce this 40% on Jamvm. When > > I get time actually I'm now trying to connect to an AdHoc wifi network > > form the FreeRunner. > > > > Thanks for the clarification on the ARM front. I don't think Sun have a > > JRE for an ARM 4, no surprise really ;-) Things would be too easy. > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > I think that OpenJDK has some JRE machines running on ARM. It's no > receipe in OE yet, but i tested a GUI in a OE machine and worked fine. > I didn't test the load of the CPU, but i could tell that some JREs are > working. > > I hope to post some of this in OE repos, and get a OpenJava JRE machine :) > > > -- > ___ > Rafael Campos > o0 Methril 0o > http://openblog.methril.net/ > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java ME for QtMoko
Hi, 2010/5/14 Georgy wrote: > Hello, > > I try it out and it's work with the demo apps. > I try it out with remoco (http://code.google.com/p/remuco/, but crashed > with > message : javax/bluetooth.BluetoothStateException. > > Any hint, or apps can't work with PhonetiQ ? > > Anyway, thanks for your work > > Georgy It seems that Bluetooth classes within the Virtual Machine is not ported to Qtopia. So, applications that uses Bluetooth can't be run currently. Anton -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/Java-ME-for-QtMoko-tp5042260p5051182.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java ME for QtMoko
Hello, I added a new package called "phonetiQ" [1] to QtMoko feed (Main Menu->Settings->Software Packages). It is a GUI for phoneME [2] (Java ME Virtual Machine) that allows you to easily install and use VM and midlets. So, QtMoko is capable to run usual J2ME apps at decent speed now :D. Of course, there are many bugs and limitations in the current version of VM (e.g. virtual keyboard does not works), but a number of games that I tested was 100% playable. You may search a video "phoneME on QtMoko" on YouTube to see how it works. I also found a simple open source game TouchSenku [3] that can be used for test purposes (you can download it directly from the GUI). Quick start instructions are available at the project wiki [4]. [1] http://github.com/Sektor/phonetiq [2] http://github.com/Sektor/phoneme-qtopia [3] http://code.google.com/p/touchsenku/ [4] http://wiki.github.com/Sektor/phonetiq/ Have Fun! Anton -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/Java-ME-for-QtMoko-tp5042260p5042260.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which Java JRE?
Hello, On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Arigead wrote: > Bernd Pru"nster wrote: >> Martin Jansa wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:06:35PM +, Arigead wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the >>>> project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) >>>> >>>> Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on >>>> anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another >>>> day. >>>> >>>> I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on >>>> the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. >>>> Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system >>>> uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does >>>> not suit our system. >>>> >>> No idea if it would be better, but have you tried cacao? Its in shr-feeds >>> now again. >>> >> This is really weird! >> I wrtoe one more or less serious app in java for the freerunner and a >> couple of test apps and jamvm had avery fast startup, but was not as >> compatible as cacao, but easier to use and did not require that much >> ressources. >> which distro are you using? which feed are you using to install jamvm >> (dunno if still true but there used to be a difference depending on >> where you installed it from). >> > > Sorry I've been a bit busy on stuff and only now catching up here on the > list. > > I'm using the latest classpath 0.98 and Jamvm 1.5.3 I can't remember > the specifics at the moment but there was some feature of Java 6 that > our system's code was using which required JamVM 1.5.3 which in turn > required Classpath 0.98. I just used a OE recipe for those and build > them for the OpenMoko. > > I tried the Cacao JRE on my eeePC and it soaked up resources as well so > I never even bothered to build it for the phone. Obviously something in > our Java System, mabe knophlerfish is not streamlined in these JRE's. > There is a Huge difference in running our system in a SUN JRE (1% CPU > According top) and other Jre's > > I'm working now on the eeePC to see can I reduce this 40% on Jamvm. When > I get time actually I'm now trying to connect to an AdHoc wifi network > form the FreeRunner. > > Thanks for the clarification on the ARM front. I don't think Sun have a > JRE for an ARM 4, no surprise really ;-) Things would be too easy. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I think that OpenJDK has some JRE machines running on ARM. It's no receipe in OE yet, but i tested a GUI in a OE machine and worked fine. I didn't test the load of the CPU, but i could tell that some JREs are working. I hope to post some of this in OE repos, and get a OpenJava JRE machine :) -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which Java JRE?
Bernd Pru"nster wrote: > Martin Jansa wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:06:35PM +, Arigead wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the >>> project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) >>> >>> Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on >>> anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another >>> day. >>> >>> I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on >>> the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. >>> Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system >>> uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does >>> not suit our system. >>> >> No idea if it would be better, but have you tried cacao? Its in shr-feeds >> now again. >> > This is really weird! > I wrtoe one more or less serious app in java for the freerunner and a > couple of test apps and jamvm had avery fast startup, but was not as > compatible as cacao, but easier to use and did not require that much > ressources. > which distro are you using? which feed are you using to install jamvm > (dunno if still true but there used to be a difference depending on > where you installed it from). > Sorry I've been a bit busy on stuff and only now catching up here on the list. I'm using the latest classpath 0.98 and Jamvm 1.5.3 I can't remember the specifics at the moment but there was some feature of Java 6 that our system's code was using which required JamVM 1.5.3 which in turn required Classpath 0.98. I just used a OE recipe for those and build them for the OpenMoko. I tried the Cacao JRE on my eeePC and it soaked up resources as well so I never even bothered to build it for the phone. Obviously something in our Java System, mabe knophlerfish is not streamlined in these JRE's. There is a Huge difference in running our system in a SUN JRE (1% CPU According top) and other Jre's I'm working now on the eeePC to see can I reduce this 40% on Jamvm. When I get time actually I'm now trying to connect to an AdHoc wifi network form the FreeRunner. Thanks for the clarification on the ARM front. I don't think Sun have a JRE for an ARM 4, no surprise really ;-) Things would be too easy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which Java JRE?
Martin Jansa wrote: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:06:35PM +, Arigead wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the >> project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) >> >> Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on >> anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another >> day. >> >> I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on >> the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. >> Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system >> uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does >> not suit our system. >> > > No idea if it would be better, but have you tried cacao? Its in shr-feeds now > again. > This is really weird! I wrtoe one more or less serious app in java for the freerunner and a couple of test apps and jamvm had avery fast startup, but was not as compatible as cacao, but easier to use and did not require that much ressources. which distro are you using? which feed are you using to install jamvm (dunno if still true but there used to be a difference depending on where you installed it from). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which Java JRE?
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:06:35PM +, Arigead wrote: > Hello all, > I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the > project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) > > Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on > anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another > day. > > I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on > the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. > Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system > uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does > not suit our system. No idea if it would be better, but have you tried cacao? Its in shr-feeds now again. -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which Java JRE?
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:06:35 + Arigead said: > Hello all, > I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the > project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) > > Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on > anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another > day. > > I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on > the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. > Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system > uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does > not suit our system. > > So I was thinking of taking a look at one of Sun's ARM JRE's but I'm a > bit confused by the CPU in the FreeRunner. I've read that it's an > ARM920T core which uses the ARMv4 Instruction set and is ARM7 Binary > Compatible. I'm totally confused as to whether this means I need an arm moves in versions of their instruction set, v4, v5, v6, v7 for example. the 2442 in the gta02 is an ooold armv4 based cpu core, and is armv4. v5, v6, v7 compiled binaries likely wont work (if they use newer instructions). any assembly for v5,v6,v7 etc. wont work. > Arm4, 7, or 9 JRE. Sun don't have too many JRE's for ARM so I'm probably > not going to get one that suits. I might try Cacao. > > If anybody could advise me which ARM Jre I need I'd be very greatful. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Which Java JRE?
Hello all, I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another day. I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does not suit our system. So I was thinking of taking a look at one of Sun's ARM JRE's but I'm a bit confused by the CPU in the FreeRunner. I've read that it's an ARM920T core which uses the ARMv4 Instruction set and is ARM7 Binary Compatible. I'm totally confused as to whether this means I need an Arm4, 7, or 9 JRE. Sun don't have too many JRE's for ARM so I'm probably not going to get one that suits. I might try Cacao. If anybody could advise me which ARM Jre I need I'd be very greatful. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[DBus]Probleme mit DBus in Java
Hi,
I am testing a little with java and DBus on the Freerunner. I got Java
(and Swing) running on it very well. But when I try to get a simple
value I get this Exception. Can someone help me where I can find this
Class "dbusjava_localized"?
Exception in thread "Thread-1" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/freedesktop/dbus/Gettext
at
org.freedesktop.dbus.DBusConnection$_sighandler.handle(DBusConnection.java:54)
at
org.freedesktop.dbus.AbstractConnection$2.run(AbstractConnection.java:845)
at
org.freedesktop.dbus.AbstractConnection$_workerthread.run(AbstractConnection.java:174)
Exception in thread "Thread-2" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
at
org.freedesktop.dbus.DBusConnection$_sighandler.handle(DBusConnection.java:54)
at
org.freedesktop.dbus.AbstractConnection$2.run(AbstractConnection.java:845)
at
org.freedesktop.dbus.AbstractConnection$_workerthread.run(AbstractConnection.java:174)
Caused by: java.util.MissingResourceException: Bundle dbusjava_localized
not found for locale en_US by classloader
java.lang.ClassLoader$1{urls=[file:/home/root/test/./dbus-test.jar,file:/home/root/test/./cgi-0.5.jar,file:/home/root/test/./debug-disable-1.1.jar,file:/home/root/test/./debug-enable-1.1.jar,file:/home/root/test/./hexdump-0.2.jar,file:/home/root/test/./io-0.1.jar,file:/home/root/test/./unix-0.5.jar],
parent=null}
at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundle(ResourceBundle.java:410)
at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundle(ResourceBundle.java:231)
at org.freedesktop.dbus.Gettext.(Gettext.java:26)
at
org.freedesktop.dbus.DBusConnection$_sighandler.handle(DBusConnection.java:54)
...2 more
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Re: Java On Openmoko
amidan schrieb: > Hi, > I'm curious if Neo FreeRunner supports Java applications. Does anybody > know if Neo FreeRunner has support for Java? Googling this subject I > understood that several projects aim to get Java working on Openmoko and I'm > wondering if you have any idea if any of them succeeded? >Adrian > Sure it works! here's a quick guide (tested on fdom) - works flawlessly! opgk install cacao opkg install calsspath opkg install classpath-gtk (only if you want to run gui programms) it even suppors swing, but to do yourself a favor, start programming awt apps - you're gonna save yourself alot of trouble! well one thing: try installing the packages with -force-depends parameter if needed and if it gives you warnings either manually install the needed packages or it they are already installed, just ignore the warings. if you want to run gui apps you have to scp your core.jar form you pc onto your freerunner: check this out: jmccloud.funpic.de download exec.sh, core.jar and opg.jar into the same folder on you fr and sh exec.sh (the exec.sh shows you how to run java apps) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java On Openmoko
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Re: Java On Openmoko
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Re: Java On Openmoko
I've used Jalimo (https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/OpenMoko) to run a pretty complicated swing based java SE client on the FR, and it was quite successful. A little sluggish, but not bad, all things considered. I think you can also use the same environment to run java ME midlets as well, but I haven't tried that. Warren On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:58 AM, amidan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, >I'm curious if Neo FreeRunner supports Java applications. Does anybody > know if Neo FreeRunner has support for Java? Googling this subject I > understood that several projects aim to get Java working on Openmoko and > I'm > wondering if you have any idea if any of them succeeded? > Adrian > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Java-On-Openmoko-tp1485337p1485337.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java On Openmoko
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Re: Accelerometer in Java
ok, thanks folks! jni it is then... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer in Java
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I guess that this is the way when using jni.
Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
> Bernd Prünster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> my question is: how do i read our data from the accelerometers in java?
>
> You open the file[1] and read data[2].
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> [1] /dev/input/event{2,3}
> [2] data is a steady flow of
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> struct input_event {
> struct timeval time;
> __u16 type;
> __u16 code;
> __s32 value;
> };
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> See linux-2.6.26/Documentation/input/input.txt for more info.
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Re: Accelerometer in Java
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Sudharshan S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think, there are DBus bindings for java. So you could probably take a > look > > at the services offered by FSO for reading accelerometers output. > > Wouldn't that cause huge overhead? Reading 100 (or 400) events per > second from two accelometers can not be smooth over dbus. Hi, Agreed, but frameworkd doesn't send DBus signals continously. Instead it gives accelerometer values on demand with a method call (which in fact opens the device nodes and unpacks the values from the input_event struct). But sending a DBus signal when the co-ordinates change would be awesome as it removes the need for keep a fd open on our side. --- Regards Sudharshan S Blog : http://www.sudharsh.wordpress.com IRC : Sup3rkiddo @ Freenode, Gimpnet ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer in Java
Sudharshan S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think, there are DBus bindings for java. So you could probably take a look > at the services offered by FSO for reading accelerometers output. Wouldn't that cause huge overhead? Reading 100 (or 400) events per second from two accelometers can not be smooth over dbus. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer in Java
On Saturday 08 November 2008 19:58:29 Bernd Prünster wrote: > so i'm asking to give me a hint how to directly read the accelerometer > output. (it's gotta be possible without jni and the like... > ..but if not, what's the best way to do it?) > I think, there are DBus bindings for java. So you could probably take a look at the services offered by FSO for reading accelerometers output. Sudharshan S Blog : http://www.sudharsh.wordpress.com IRC : Sup3rkiddo @ Freenode, Gimpnet ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer in Java
Bernd Prünster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> my question is: how do i read our data from the accelerometers in java?
You open the file[1] and read data[2].
[1] /dev/input/event{2,3}
[2] data is a steady flow of
struct input_event {
struct timeval time;
__u16 type;
__u16 code;
__s32 value;
};
See linux-2.6.26/Documentation/input/input.txt for more info.
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Accelerometer in Java
Hiho! Few years went on since i had to bother with such simple issues, but i played arounf for some time and didn't get anywhere ( i have no clue what to do) my question is: how do i read our data from the accelerometers in java? my first approach was to use and modify the pothon script from wiki.openmoko.org, execute it and read the output, but that's not a desirable way! so i'm asking to give me a hint how to directly read the accelerometer output. (it's gotta be possible without jni and the like... ..but if not, what's the best way to do it?) thx in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Sounds to me like you only installed the java vm, not the classpath component. I followed the instructions at https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/OpenMoko and things worked fine... basically you need to do "opkg update && opkg install cacao classpath" - or if you need awt/swing, change the last to 'classpath-awt' good luck, Warren On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Girish Revadigar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Hi, > > I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed > onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on > my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run > on my PC using: java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same > HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run > using the cacao, but it gives the following error: > > output when run with cacao: > --- > # cacao HelloWorld > LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: > LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object > LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... > Aborted > > output when run with jamvm: > --- > # jamvm HelloWorld > Exception occured while vm initialising. > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class > > > Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives > the same result: > > output when tried to run jar file with cacao: > > # cacao -cp -jar test.jar > LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: > LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object > LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... > Aborted > > output when tried to run jar file with jamvm: > ------ > # jamvm -jar test.jar > Exception occured while vm initialising. > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class > > What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me. > > Thank you > Girish > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Hi Girish, >> >> I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG >> mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on >> planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near >> future. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Joseph >> >> >> [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ >> [2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > Hi Max, >> > >> > Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like >> we >> > need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you >> please >> > suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? >> > >> > Thank you >> > Girish >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? >> >> >> >> please update if necessary... >> >> >> >> Girish Revadigar schrieb: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI >> application >> >> > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the >> newly >> >> > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any >> JVM >> >> > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my >> openmoko >> >> > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to >> >> > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your >> >> > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. >> >> > >> >> > Thank you >> >> > Regards >> >> > Girish >> >> > +91 99867 64809 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > ___ >> >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> >> > http://lists.openmo
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
>From memory this is, so may be completely wrong, but I'd: opkg install --force-depends cacao opkg install --force-depends classpath opkg install --force-depends classpath-gtk If I remember correctly, there was a bug in classpath that was causing it to report a successful installation, whereas in reality it was going wrong. Forcing all three got it to work for me. Best of luck, 2008/10/31 Jim Ancona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Peter Neubauer wrote: >> Mmh, >> it seems your jvm is not finding the Java base classes. Do you ave >> Classpath installed? You could try to explicitly point out the >> classes.zip file of your JRE using >> >> cacao -cp PATH/TO/classes.zip .jar myJar.jar >> >> HTH, probably others on this list know more ... > > I agree with Peter, your problem sounds CLASSPATH related. I had pretty > good luck using Jalimo [1] to package Java apps for my Freerunner. I was > able to run a SWT GUI app, although it was very slow. > > Jim > > [1] - https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Peter Neubauer wrote: > Mmh, > it seems your jvm is not finding the Java base classes. Do you ave > Classpath installed? You could try to explicitly point out the > classes.zip file of your JRE using > > cacao -cp PATH/TO/classes.zip .jar myJar.jar > > HTH, probably others on this list know more ... I agree with Peter, your problem sounds CLASSPATH related. I had pretty good luck using Jalimo [1] to package Java apps for my Freerunner. I was able to run a SWT GUI app, although it was very slow. Jim [1] - https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
No, i have compiled the java program on my pc and after I got the class file, i copied the class file to freerunner using scp from my pc. On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > have you tried compiling the java class on the freerunner? > > Girish Revadigar schrieb: > > Hi, > > > > I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm > > installed onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small > > HelloWorld program on my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which > > prints Hello World when run on my PC using: java HelloWorld command. > > After that i copied the same HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device > > (freerunner) and tried to run using the cacao, but it gives the > > following error: > > > > output when run with cacao: > > -- > > - > > # cacao HelloWorld > > LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: > > LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object > > LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... > > Aborted > > > > output when run with jamvm: > > --- > > # jamvm HelloWorld > > Exception occured while vm initialising. > > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class > > > > > > Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also > > gives the same result: > > > > output when tried to run jar file with cacao: > > > > # cacao -cp -jar test.jar > > LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: > > LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object > > LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... > > Aborted > > > > output when tried to run jar file with jamvm: > > -- > > # jamvm -jar test.jar > > Exception occured while vm initialising. > > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class > > > > What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me. > > > > Thank you > > Girish > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? > > > > please update if necessary... > > > > Girish Revadigar schrieb: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI > > application > > > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the > > newly > > > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any > JVM > > > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my > > openmoko > > > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need > to > > > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your > > > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. > > > > > > Thank you > > > Regards > > > Girish > > > +91 99867 64809 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org <mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org> > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > -- > > exactt technology > > Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert > > > > Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 > > D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org <mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org> > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- > exactt technology > Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert > > Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 > D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
have you tried compiling the java class on the freerunner? Girish Revadigar schrieb: > Hi, > > I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm > installed onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small > HelloWorld program on my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which > prints Hello World when run on my PC using: java HelloWorld command. > After that i copied the same HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device > (freerunner) and tried to run using the cacao, but it gives the > following error: > > output when run with cacao: > -- > - > # cacao HelloWorld > LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: > LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object > LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... > Aborted > > output when run with jamvm: > --- > # jamvm HelloWorld > Exception occured while vm initialising. > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class > > > Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also > gives the same result: > > output when tried to run jar file with cacao: > > # cacao -cp -jar test.jar > LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: > LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object > LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... > Aborted > > output when tried to run jar file with jamvm: > ------ > # jamvm -jar test.jar > Exception occured while vm initialising. > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class > > What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me. > > Thank you > Girish > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? > > please update if necessary... > > Girish Revadigar schrieb: > > Hi, > > > > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI > application > > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the > newly > > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM > > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my > openmoko > > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to > > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your > > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. > > > > Thank you > > Regards > > Girish > > +91 99867 64809 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org <mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org> > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- > exactt technology > Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert > > Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 > D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org <mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Mmh, it seems your jvm is not finding the Java base classes. Do you ave Classpath installed? You could try to explicitly point out the classes.zip file of your JRE using cacao -cp PATH/TO/classes.zip .jar myJar.jar HTH, probably others on this list know more ... /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Girish Revadigar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed > onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on > my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run > on my PC using: java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same > HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run > using the cacao, but it gives the following error: > > output when run with cacao: > -- > - > # cacao HelloWorld > LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: > LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object > LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... > Aborted > > output when run with jamvm: > --- > # jamvm HelloWorld > Exception occured while vm initialising. > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class > > > Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives > the same result: > > output when tried to run jar file with cacao: > > # cacao -cp -jar test.jar > LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: > LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object > LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... > Aborted > > output when tried to run jar file with jamvm: > -- > # jamvm -jar test.jar > Exception occured while vm initialising. > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class > > What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me. > > Thank you > Girish > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Hi Girish, >> >> I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG >> mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on >> planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near >> future. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Joseph >> >> >> [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ >> [2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > Hi Max, >> > >> > Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like >> > we >> > need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you >> > please >> > suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? >> > >> > Thank you >> > Girish >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? >> >> >> >> please update if necessary... >> >> >> >> Girish Revadigar schrieb: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI >> >> > application >> >> > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the >> >> > newly >> >> > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any >> >> > JVM >> >> > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my >> >> > openmoko >> >> > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to >> >> > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your >> >> > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. >> >> > >> >> > Thank you >> >&
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi, I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run on my PC using: java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run using the cacao, but it gives the following error: output when run with cacao: --- # cacao HelloWorld LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... Aborted output when run with jamvm: --- # jamvm HelloWorld Exception occured while vm initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives the same result: output when tried to run jar file with cacao: # cacao -cp -jar test.jar LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... Aborted output when tried to run jar file with jamvm: -- # jamvm -jar test.jar Exception occured while vm initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me. Thank you Girish On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? > > please update if necessary... > > Girish Revadigar schrieb: > > Hi, > > > > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application > > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly > > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM > > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko > > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to > > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your > > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. > > > > Thank you > > Regards > > Girish > > +91 99867 64809 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- > exactt technology > Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert > > Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 > D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi, I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run on my PC using: java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run using the cacao, but it gives the following error: output when run with cacao: --- # cacao HelloWorld LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... Aborted output when run with jamvm: --- # jamvm HelloWorld Exception occured while vm initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives the same result: output when tried to run jar file with cacao: # cacao -cp -jar test.jar LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... Aborted output when tried to run jar file with jamvm: -- # jamvm -jar test.jar Exception occured while vm initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me. Thank you Girish On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Peter Neubauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, > on standard 2008.9 or so, you should be able to install > > opkg install jamvm > > to start with. Starting a visual java program from the command line > (logging in via ssh) would then be: > > export DISPLAY=:0.0 && jamvm -jar myJar.jar > > If you are running Debian, you can even install classpath, openjdk, > harmony etc, but they tend to be quite slow (but Java5) > > HTH > > /peter > > http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. > > GTalk:neubauer.peter > Skypepeter.neubauer > ICQ18762544 > Phone +46704 106975 > LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer > Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer > > http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. > http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open > Participation Software. > http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven > Development. > > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Girish Revadigar > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Max, > > > > Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like > we > > need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please > > suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? > > > > Thank you > > Girish > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > >> have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? > >> > >> please update if necessary... > >> > >> Girish Revadigar schrieb: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI > application > >> > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the > newly > >> > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM > >> > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my > openmoko > >> > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to > >> > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your > >> > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. > >> > > >> > Thank you > >> > Regards > >> > Girish > >> > +91 99867 64809 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Openmoko community mailing list > >> > community@lists.openmoko.org > >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > >> -- > >> exactt technology > >> Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert > >> > >> Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 > >> D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi, I tried according to your guidelines and got the cacao and jamvm installed onto my openmoko.(neo freerunner). I compiled a small HelloWorld program on my pc to generate HelloWorld.class file, which prints Hello World when run on my PC using: java HelloWorld command. After that i copied the same HelloWorld.class file to my openmoko device (freerunner) and tried to run using the cacao, but it gives the following error: output when run with cacao: --- # cacao HelloWorld LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... Aborted output when run with jamvm: --- # jamvm HelloWorld Exception occured while vm initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class Also tried running the test.jar file from cacao, and jamvm, that also gives the same result: output when tried to run jar file with cacao: # cacao -cp -jar test.jar LOG: [0x400211d0] exception thrown while vm is initializing: LOG: [0x400211d0] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.object LOG: [0x400211d0] Aborting ... Aborted output when tried to run jar file with jamvm: -- # jamvm -jar test.jar Exception occured while vm initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class What can be wrong in my settings? Please update me. Thank you Girish On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi Girish, > > I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG > mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on > planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near > future. > > Cheers, > > Joseph > > > [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ > [2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page > > > > > > > 2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi Max, > > > > Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like > we > > need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please > > suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? > > > > Thank you > > Girish > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > >> have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? > >> > >> please update if necessary... > >> > >> Girish Revadigar schrieb: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI > application > >> > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the > newly > >> > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM > >> > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my > openmoko > >> > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to > >> > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your > >> > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. > >> > > >> > Thank you > >> > Regards > >> > Girish > >> > +91 99867 64809 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Openmoko community mailing list > >> > community@lists.openmoko.org > >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > >> -- > >> exactt technology > >> Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert > >> > >> Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 > >> D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi Girish, I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near future. Cheers, Joseph [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ [2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page 2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Max, > > Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like we > need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please > suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? > > Thank you > Girish > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? >> >> please update if necessary... >> >> Girish Revadigar schrieb: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application >> > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly >> > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM >> > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko >> > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to >> > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your >> > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. >> > >> > Thank you >> > Regards >> > Girish >> > +91 99867 64809 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> -- >> exactt technology >> Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert >> >> Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 >> D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Well, on standard 2008.9 or so, you should be able to install opkg install jamvm to start with. Starting a visual java program from the command line (logging in via ssh) would then be: export DISPLAY=:0.0 && jamvm -jar myJar.jar If you are running Debian, you can even install classpath, openjdk, harmony etc, but they tend to be quite slow (but Java5) HTH /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Girish Revadigar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Max, > > Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like we > need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please > suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? > > Thank you > Girish > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? >> >> please update if necessary... >> >> Girish Revadigar schrieb: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application >> > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly >> > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM >> > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko >> > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to >> > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your >> > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. >> > >> > Thank you >> > Regards >> > Girish >> > +91 99867 64809 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> -- >> exactt technology >> Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert >> >> Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 >> D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi Max, Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like we need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? Thank you Girish On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? > > please update if necessary... > > Girish Revadigar schrieb: > > Hi, > > > > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application > > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly > > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM > > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko > > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to > > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your > > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. > > > > Thank you > > Regards > > Girish > > +91 99867 64809 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- > exactt technology > Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert > > Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 > D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? please update if necessary... Girish Revadigar schrieb: > Hi, > > I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application > on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly > brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM > for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko > to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to > install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your > valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. > > Thank you > Regards > Girish > +91 99867 64809 > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi, I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. Thank you Regards Girish +91 99867 64809 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
Thanks for all the hints! Seems that my main problems were the missing file logging configuration, and the setting of the working dir. Have filed an enhancement request for the mvn pkg:pkg plugin at Evolvis to even let me specify the working dir for the Java app so it ends up in the starter scripts. Thanks! /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Florian Hackenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Peter Neubauer wrote: >> Yes, it is a Swing app, but even doing debug output via java.logging > Pu something like this in your startup script: > > pwd > /home/root/working_dir.txt > > and launch your application from the launcher. The working_dir.txt file > should then contain your WD. > > Cheers, >Florian > > -- > DI Florian Hackenberger > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.hackenberger.at > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Peter Neubauer wrote: > Yes, it is a Swing app, but even doing debug output via java.logging Pu something like this in your startup script: pwd > /home/root/working_dir.txt and launch your application from the launcher. The working_dir.txt file should then contain your WD. Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
Hi, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:40 AM, vale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > put in your starterscript: > > cd /path/to/your/workingdir before you call the applet ... > and also export DISPLAY=:0 > > has your applet graphical output? because you say output to console ... ? Yes, it is a Swing app, but even doing debug output via java.logging ... /peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
put in your starterscript: cd /path/to/your/workingdir before you call the applet ... and also export DISPLAY=:0 has your applet graphical output? because you say output to console ... ? Peter Neubauer wrote: > > Hi there, > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:09 AM, vale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> you have to look into the corresponding .desktop file in >> /usr/share/applications i think .. there is a line exec= which contains >> the >> command used to start the application. it should look like the command >> you >> use from the terminal > Yes, I have a starter script in /usr/bin/ and are calling that with > exec=myApp from the .desktop file, but still the question is where > standard output is directed to and what the working dir is if I do not > have a shell and start the program via click on the desktop item? > > starting the app with > export DISPLAY=:0.0 > testApp > > works fine with working dir=. and the output to the console ... > > /peter > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Java-Application-output-and-working-directory-on-2008.8--tp1114743p1114808.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
Hi there, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:09 AM, vale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you have to look into the corresponding .desktop file in > /usr/share/applications i think .. there is a line exec= which contains the > command used to start the application. it should look like the command you > use from the terminal Yes, I have a starter script in /usr/bin/ and are calling that with exec=myApp from the .desktop file, but still the question is where standard output is directed to and what the working dir is if I do not have a shell and start the program via click on the desktop item? starting the app with export DISPLAY=:0.0 testApp works fine with working dir=. and the output to the console ... /peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
you have to look into the corresponding .desktop file in /usr/share/applications i think .. there is a line exec= which contains the command used to start the application. it should look like the command you use from the terminal Peter Neubauer wrote: > > Hi Folks, > does anyone know where the standard output from a Java application > that I start via the visual desktop icon ends up? The app is starting > from the terminal but not from the Desktop, so I would like to see > what's going on ... > > /peter > > GTalk: neubauer.peter > Skype peter.neubauer > ICQ 18762544 > Phone +46704 106975 > LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer > Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer > > http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. > http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open > Participation Software. > http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Java-Application-output-and-working-directory-on-2008.8--tp1114743p1114771.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
Hi Folks, does anyone know where the standard output from a Java application that I start via the visual desktop icon ends up? The app is starting from the terminal but not from the Desktop, so I would like to see what's going on ... /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
Robert Schuster wrote: > Petr Vanek schrieb: >> how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it >> what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at >> jalimo and around but no clarity for me... > What you usually want to run is a MIDlet or MIDP application. For this > you can either use the microemulator or MIDPath on top of either > Cacao+GNU Classpath or PhoneME Advanced. > > You can install midpath for OpenMoko through the Jalimo repository. All > of this is in OE. So it could be added to the official feeds as well. > > Running MIDPath on PhoneME Advanced (PMEA for short) is currently not > possible due to a bug in the MIDPath version in OE. I hope I can > convince Guillaume to release another RC soon so that I can base the > recipes in OE on it. > > For the user PMEA would have the advantage that it is tried and tested > Sun code and additionally really fast. It is also compatible to SWT and > can as such run application that are compatible to J2SE 1.3. Nice and does it support all midlets built following the J2Me standards? Btw, do you have packages for testing it without waiting the OE/OM updates? There are some repos [1] that I found in your blog but they don't seem so updated as needed... [1] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Packages#OpenMoko -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
Hi, David Samblas schrieb: > Good news :) a step closer to say "neo is full compatible with you > favorite java games and apps :)" I know all c/python/elf/gtk even qt > lovers will be groaning like Gollum in Saurons fortress but marketing > is cruel some times and the avobe sentence can make Openmoko sell more > neos :) What is also nice is that BugLabs, a company that sells customizable ARM computers, is using PMEA as the primary JVM in their products. These people will use OpenEmbedded (through Poky) and as such all of the stuff they are committing can be used for OpenMoko as well. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:07:21 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FOGO) wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:01:13 +0200 (CEST) >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FOGO) wrote: > >fogo? i reply through gmane gate and it hides all addresses. In your case very well :) >> Yes, i have read this. Unfortunately i am not a programmer to be able >> to give a hand so i will only hope quietly this gets done one day, >> after all the other issues have been nailed out... >> >> thank you anyways >> Petr >> > >I was not suggesting that you should do it. I only was pointing that I >think it would still require time. I just tried to show some empathy :) cheers -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:01:13 +0200 (CEST) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FOGO) wrote: fogo? > Yes, i have read this. Unfortunately i am not a programmer to be able > to give a hand so i will only hope quietly this gets done one day, > after all the other issues have been nailed out... > > thank you anyways > Petr > I was not suggesting that you should do it. I only was pointing that I think it would still require time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
Good news :) a step closer to say "neo is full compatible with you favorite java games and apps :)" I know all c/python/elf/gtk even qt lovers will be groaning like Gollum in Saurons fortress but marketing is cruel some times and the avobe sentence can make Openmoko sell more neos :) El jue, 18-09-2008 a las 14:37 +0200, Robert Schuster escribió: > Hi, > for some blogposts by me that deal with the Java situation on OpenMoko > have a look at this: > > http://rschuster.blogs.evolvis.org/category/OpenMoko/ > > (With a little luck this will soon be available through planet.openmoko.org) > > Petr Vanek schrieb: > > how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it > > what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at > > jalimo and around but no clarity for me... > What you usually want to run is a MIDlet or MIDP application. For this > you can either use the microemulator or MIDPath on top of either > Cacao+GNU Classpath or PhoneME Advanced. > > You can install midpath for OpenMoko through the Jalimo repository. All > of this is in OE. So it could be added to the official feeds as well. > > Running MIDPath on PhoneME Advanced (PMEA for short) is currently not > possible due to a bug in the MIDPath version in OE. I hope I can > convince Guillaume to release another RC soon so that I can base the > recipes in OE on it. > > For the user PMEA would have the advantage that it is tried and tested > Sun code and additionally really fast. It is also compatible to SWT and > can as such run application that are compatible to J2SE 1.3. > > Regards > Robert > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
Hi, for some blogposts by me that deal with the Java situation on OpenMoko have a look at this: http://rschuster.blogs.evolvis.org/category/OpenMoko/ (With a little luck this will soon be available through planet.openmoko.org) Petr Vanek schrieb: > how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it > what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at > jalimo and around but no clarity for me... What you usually want to run is a MIDlet or MIDP application. For this you can either use the microemulator or MIDPath on top of either Cacao+GNU Classpath or PhoneME Advanced. You can install midpath for OpenMoko through the Jalimo repository. All of this is in OE. So it could be added to the official feeds as well. Running MIDPath on PhoneME Advanced (PMEA for short) is currently not possible due to a bug in the MIDPath version in OE. I hope I can convince Guillaume to release another RC soon so that I can base the recipes in OE on it. For the user PMEA would have the advantage that it is tried and tested Sun code and additionally really fast. It is also compatible to SWT and can as such run application that are compatible to J2SE 1.3. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:01:13 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FOGO) wrote: >> how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it >> what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at >> jalimo and around but no clarity for me... >> >> thank you for pointing into the right direction, > >I think a lot of work must still be done. > >http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java#Status_on_Openmoko Yes, i have read this. Unfortunately i am not a programmer to be able to give a hand so i will only hope quietly this gets done one day, after all the other issues have been nailed out... thank you anyways Petr -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
On Thu 18 Sep 2008 14:14:01 Martin Šenkeřík wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:01 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it > >> what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at > >> jalimo and around but no clarity for me... > > > > I think a lot of work must still be done. > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java#Status_on_Openmoko > > But see the history of this page: the only changes this year were > OpenMoko->Openmoko changes and some category corrections... I have updated that OpenMoko-java-page about: Debian status with and CacaoVM, JamVM and Microemu PhoneME impl. Regards, Kostis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
On Thu 18 Sep 2008 13:24:20 Petr Vanek wrote: > Hi all, > > perhaps a silly question, but google nor wiki give me an answer: > > how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it > what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at > jalimo and around but no clarity for me... > > thank you for pointing into the right direction, I just tried microemu[1] with CacaoVM (included in Debian) and it worked! (It takes ~20sec to start up but it is very responsive) After downoading it and unpacking it i tried the demo apps included with the command: DISPLAY=:0 java -jar microemulator.jar apps/microemu-demo.jad Yet, at the TextField demo, the microemu aborted with: LOG: [0x43ee3490] mutex_lock: pthread_mutex_lock failed: Invalid argument Aborted Regards, Kostis [1]: http://www.microemu.org/index.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
But see the history of this page: the only changes this year were OpenMoko->Openmoko changes and some category corrections... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:01 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it >> what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at >> jalimo and around but no clarity for me... >> >> thank you for pointing into the right direction, > > I think a lot of work must still be done. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java#Status_on_Openmoko > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
> how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it > what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at > jalimo and around but no clarity for me... > > thank you for pointing into the right direction, I think a lot of work must still be done. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java#Status_on_Openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Phone java apps on fr?
Hi all, perhaps a silly question, but google nor wiki give me an answer: how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at jalimo and around but no clarity for me... thank you for pointing into the right direction, -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launch scripts for Java app?
Hi, I do it the following way: 1) provide a shell script that starts your app and place it in /usr/bin 2) write a .desktop file and place it in /usr/share/applications. Thats all. (Btw: If your Java app is built can be built with maven you can use the maven packaging plugin[0] to do this for you.) Regards Robert [0] - http://mvn-pkg-plugin.evolvis.org Peter Neubauer schrieb: > Hi there, > thanks for all the effort over here, I think OM is a very cool > tinkering platform! > > I would like to get an Icon on the Idle Screen and some name in the > task list for my little Java-SWT app. Is there any tutorial on how to > do that? > > Cheers > > /peter > > GTalk: neubauer.peter > Skype peter.neubauer > ICQ 18762544 > Phone +46704 106975 > LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer > Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer > > http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. > http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open > Participation Software. > http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java FX, any news?
On Tue 16 Sep 2008 10:45:58 Philipp Aeberli wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I was going through some of my bookmarks and stumbled over the Java FX > announcement in May this year: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 > > There is even a Java FX Mobile dedicated to mobile devices: > http://java.sun.com/javafx/mobile/ > > Does anyone now if somebody is pursuing this Hi Philipp, I have attempted some experiments with JavaFX. I'm using Debian with CacaoVM implementing JSE 1.5, and i tried the SDK preview samples "Stopwatch", "ImageRollover" and "Madness". Here are the results so far: * "Stopwatch" run but was deadly slow! It may be that it requires floating-point maths for the clock-pointers. * "ImageRollover" (just a close-button) starts slow but is perfectly responsive! * "Madness" segfaulted CacaoVM with a "unable to find a Java method" message. Attempts with others progs have also end-up with CacaoVM segfaults. Tried also JamVM but classpath-classes didn't implement Window.isLocationByPlatform() method so JavaFX aborts. Hope the above info helps. Regards, Kostis PS: These attempts are the precursory steps of evaluating the possibility of an ala "Tichy" FSO-based JavaFX+OSGi software for OpenMoko devices. Any feedback appreciated. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java FX, any news?
Hello everyone, I was going through some of my bookmarks and stumbled over the Java FX announcement in May this year: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 There is even a Java FX Mobile dedicated to mobile devices: http://java.sun.com/javafx/mobile/ Does anyone now if somebody is pursuing this cheers Philipp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Launch scripts for Java app?
Hi there, thanks for all the effort over here, I think OM is a very cool tinkering platform! I would like to get an Icon on the Idle Screen and some name in the task list for my little Java-SWT app. Is there any tutorial on how to do that? Cheers /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: lwuit (toolkit for mobile java interface) goes opensource
lör 2008-08-16 klockan 11:08 +0200 skrev arne anka: > > See: https://lwuit.dev.java.net/ , It's gplv2 with classpath exception. > > Maybe somebody will find this useful. > > afaik there's no java me stack for the fr. only java se. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java#J2ME_implementations signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: lwuit (toolkit for mobile java interface) goes opensource
> See: https://lwuit.dev.java.net/ , It's gplv2 with classpath exception. > Maybe somebody will find this useful. afaik there's no java me stack for the fr. only java se. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
lwuit (toolkit for mobile java interface) goes opensource
See: https://lwuit.dev.java.net/ , It's gplv2 with classpath exception. Maybe somebody will find this useful. y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia and Java?
Geoff Ruscoe wrote: > > > I wrote a simple Java GUI app using Jalimo the other day just as soon as > I got my FR. > > It worked great, just as described on the wiki/links from wiki. > Yes I did that too on 2007.2 which has an X Server running. The SWT port is to GTK not Qt, so it does not not work on Qtopia. I presume Python Graphics libs will have the same problem. Any word on this from Trolltech? Jambi looks great, it would be nice if it worked under Qtopia. -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia and Java?
> I wrote a simple Java GUI app using Jalimo the other day just as soon as > I > got my FR. then it run probably 2007.2, not qtopia? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia and Java?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Jim Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On my Desktop I just played with Qt Jambi the Trolltech Java UI SDK for > Java. It looks good, but > will it work under Qtopia? Or only under Qt/X11? > > I have Jalimo loaded on my Qtopia loaded FR and of course none of the > graphics libs they provide > work because they are GTK/X11, so what does it take to use Java to write an > app under Qtopia? > > I'd like to be able to write simple apps either in Java or Ruby. I presume > some people will want > python too. > > There are Qt bindings for Ruby but I think they are Qt/X11 not Qtopia. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Jim > I wrote a simple Java GUI app using Jalimo the other day just as soon as I got my FR. It worked great, just as described on the wiki/links from wiki. The key was I went ahead and used the SWT framework (which is also available in the packages). a couple recommended opkg installs built little gui in Eclipse (compiled using the swt jar) copied the class to the phone ran from the command line... And life was full of joy! Hope this helps. I know I didn't look up the links, but they are readily available. I figured its the procedure that you needed. Cheers, Geoff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia and Java?
On my Desktop I just played with Qt Jambi the Trolltech Java UI SDK for Java. It looks good, but will it work under Qtopia? Or only under Qt/X11? I have Jalimo loaded on my Qtopia loaded FR and of course none of the graphics libs they provide work because they are GTK/X11, so what does it take to use Java to write an app under Qtopia? I'd like to be able to write simple apps either in Java or Ruby. I presume some people will want python too. There are Qt bindings for Ruby but I think they are Qt/X11 not Qtopia. Any suggestions? Thanks Jim -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Only 6 days to go: Live, worldwide, and free broadcast - Java Mobile & Embedded Developer Days
News Flash: The Java Mobile & Embedded Developer Days will be broadcast live, worldwide, and for free! Only 6 more days to go ... Newsletter #5: https://developerdays.dev.java.net/newsletters/MEDD-Countdown5.pdf See you there or online! -- Terrence begin:vcard fn:Terrence Barr n:Barr;Terrence org:Sun Microsystems adr:;;Zettachring 10 A;Stuttgart;;70587;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community tel;work:+49 711 720 98185 url:http://www.mobileandembedded.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Only 10 days to go: Java Mobile & Embedded Developer Days countdown
Newsletter #4: https://developerdays.dev.java.net/newsletters/MEDD-Countdown4.pdf Enjoy! -- Terrence -- Terrence Barr Technical Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community Phone: +49 711 720 98185 http://www.mobileandembedded.org http://www.sun.com Registered Office: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. begin:vcard fn:Terrence Barr n:Barr;Terrence org:Sun Microsystems adr:;;Zettachring 10 A;Stuttgart;;70587;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community tel;work:+49 711 720 98185 url:http://www.mobileandembedded.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Only 3 weeks to go! Java Mobile & Embedded Developer Days countdown #3
Newsletter #3: https://developerdays.dev.java.net/newsletters/MEDD-Countdown3.pdf Enjoy! -- Terrence -- Terrence Barr Technical Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community Phone: +49 711 720 98185 http://www.mobileandembedded.org http://www.sun.com Registered Office: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. begin:vcard fn:Terrence Barr n:Barr;Terrence org:Sun Microsystems adr:;;Zettachring 10 A;Stuttgart;;70587;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community tel;work:+49 711 720 98185 url:http://www.mobileandembedded.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Only 5 weeks to go: Java Mobile & Embedded Developer Days countdown #2
Conference Count-Down: Only 5 weeks to go! https://developerdays.dev.java.net/newsletters/MEDD-Countdown2.pdf Enjoy! -- Terrence Barr Technical Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community Phone: +49 711 720 98185 http://www.mobileandembedded.org http://www.sun.com Registered Office: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. begin:vcard fn:Terrence Barr n:Barr;Terrence org:Sun Microsystems adr:;;Zettachring 10 A;Stuttgart;;70587;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community tel;work:+49 711 720 98185 url:http://www.mobileandembedded.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android isn't a Java Platform - Say Hello to Dalvik
On a related note, the J2ME from Sun is now open source https://phoneme.dev.java.net/ "The project scope includes a focus on the mainstream feature phone segment with phoneME Feature software, and the emerging advanced phone segment with phoneME Advanced software." Regarding Android and Sun licensing, interestingly Ed Zander who used to run Sun Microsytstems (COO/President) now runs Motorola (CEO), and has said moto wants to be part of Android. If there was any kind of licensing problem he would probably know. Another interesting thing is that Java runs on many many phones already. Probably most are not set up to allow development, but from what I've seen doing tech support it seems most phones run Java. Another interesting thing is how prevalent ARM is used on phones. I believe ARM actually owns this market for processors. If you have any recent phone, most likely it's ARM inside. -- Doug ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android isn't a Java Platform - Say Hello to Dalvik
hey friend MS got in trouble with Sun for doing something a little bit similar, but they had a licensing agreement in place that put MS in hot water. I wonder if on a technical level it rules out cool stuff like jruby... > > - Android code is written to a unique dialect of Java (super/subset) > > that runs on Android's own Dalvik VM. It's not J2ME or any other Sun > > profile and apparently not subject to Sun's licensing regimes -- Brad ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android isn't a Java Platform - Say Hello to Dalvik
William Weinberg wrote: Dear OpenMoko Friends See the following blog about the "neat tricks" that Google performed to sidestep Sun Java licensing requirements. http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/110/ The short of is - Android code is written to a unique dialect of Java (super/subset) that runs on Android's own Dalvik VM. It's not J2ME or any other Sun profile and apparently not subject to Sun's licensing regimes - In doing so, Google created a new platform, better technically perhaps, but not a Java-based platform. This act by definition increases fragmentation, whatever you may think of the ugly Java-based status quo in the broader mobile market. Your comments and reflections appreciated. There are apparently good reasons for doing that type of fragmentation with java (although I would argue staying as close to the spec as possible would be better) in open source development Bug labs details this a bit on their blog - Sun has no certification program for open source implementations of java, so it kind of forces the issue. http://www.bugblogger.com/2007/10/gpl-sun-java-tr.html This one _may_ not just be google throwing their weight around. regards, joshua ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Android isn't a Java Platform - Say Hello to Dalvik
Dear OpenMoko Friends See the following blog about the "neat tricks" that Google performed to sidestep Sun Java licensing requirements. http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/110/ The short of is - Android code is written to a unique dialect of Java (super/subset) that runs on Android's own Dalvik VM. It's not J2ME or any other Sun profile and apparently not subject to Sun's licensing regimes - In doing so, Google created a new platform, better technically perhaps, but not a Java-based platform. This act by definition increases fragmentation, whatever you may think of the ugly Java-based status quo in the broader mobile market. Your comments and reflections appreciated. Bill -- Bill Weinberg - Embedded and Open Source Analyst / Consultant http://www.linuxpundit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 831-662-2857 (p) | 408-568-2492 (m) | 831-662-2852 (f) Blogs: http://activeanalysis.net/blog/18 http://linux-foundation.org/weblogs/mobile ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Call for Papers: Java Mobile & Embedded Developer Days Conference
We just announced the Java Mobile & Embedded Developer Days Conference for January of 2008. OpenMoko fits very well into the focus of this conference so I'm posting the announcement here assuming the OpenMoko community is interested in promoting this and participating. The Call for Papers has just opened. For more information please see the note below. Let me know if you have any additional questions. Thanks much, -- Terrence -- Terrence Barr Technical Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community Phone: +49 711 720 98185 http://www.mobileandembedded.org, http://www.sun.de, http://www.sun.com Registered Office: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten, Germany Commercial register of the Local Court of Munich: HRB 161028 Managing Directors: Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Martin Haering NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. The Mobile & Embedded Community is hosting the first ever Java Mobile & Embedded Developer Days Conference January 22-24, 2008 At the Sun Santa Clara Campus Auditorium Santa Clara, California, USA The conference is devoted solely to the technologies of mobile and embedded Java platforms and is targeted for application developers of intermediate and advanced skill levels, platform developers, and technical personnel at tool vendors, OEMs and carriers. Content areas are expected to include the traditional phone and PDA development on the Java ME platform as well as SunSPOT wireless sensors, Trackbot and Java robotics, and other small Java systems used in machinery and process control but centered around Java, JavaME, and open source aspects of Java. We want this to be a community-driven conference. We are looking forward to your involvement in making this an interesting and interactive event. The Call for Papers opened on October 2, 2007 and will end October 31, 2007. Registration is expected to be open November 1, 2007. For more information about the conference and how to submit papers please see https://developerdays.dev.java.net Best regards, Roger Brinkley, Mobile & Embedded Community Leader Terrence Barr, Mobile & Embedded Community Technical Evangelist begin:vcard fn:Terrence Barr n:Barr;Terrence org:Sun Microsystems adr:;;Zettachring 10 A;Stuttgart;;70587;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded Community tel;work:+49 711 720 98185 url:http://www.mobileandembedded.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java games for openMoko
Moin, Am Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:11:19 +0100 schrieb Giles Jones: > Implement bluetooth HID etc then you can use a bluetooth keyboard. > Or compile the wii mote code on the phone and use a Wii controller > (they use bluetooth for all but pointing). Note that HID already is working with the default Bluez installed on OpenMoko. I have successfully used the HID application on another phone (Sony-Ericsson W800i) to appear as a keyboard to my Neo1973. And yes, incidentally it was to get numeric input into a J2ME application running on the Neo. I have made a bitbake recipe to build PhoneME Feature to run directly on the Neo1973 framebuffer, with pointer input through tslib (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java and http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/oe/packages/phoneme-feature/?root=java-pkg). The big drawback here is that there is no virtual on-screen keyboard (though the idea to implement something like this has surfaced in the phoneme forum approximately in February), so you'll only get pointer input and can select menu options. What would be cool would be a phoneme 'port' for X11, so that the existing on-screen keyboard could be used. Should in principle be easy, since PhoneME Feature already has all the code to run on bare metal without any widget system. You'll only have to redirect all the drawing operations that would normally take place on the framebuffer into an X11 window. -- Henryk Plötz Grüße aus Berlin ~ Help Microsoft fight software piracy: Give Linux to a friend today! ~ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java games for openMoko
On 28 Jul 2007, at 22:44, Steven Milburn wrote: This one-button-at-a-time is not an uncommon to existing phones. Many phone keypads are implemented in such a way that they do not register multiple key presses at the same time. For instance, when playing the "Asphalt Urban GT 3D", a Java game, on my A707, I cannot both accelerate and turn at the same time because it takes two keys. Luckily, the game programmers must have known this and there's a control mode that includes auto-acceleration so that you don't need to press two keys at a time. So, it would be good if the neo could play the games that already exist and only require one key at a time. I'm sure plenty exist for it to be worth while. Implement bluetooth HID etc then you can use a bluetooth keyboard. Or compile the wii mote code on the phone and use a Wii controller (they use bluetooth for all but pointing). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java games for openMoko
This one-button-at-a-time is not an uncommon to existing phones. Many phone keypads are implemented in such a way that they do not register multiple key presses at the same time. For instance, when playing the "Asphalt Urban GT 3D", a Java game, on my A707, I cannot both accelerate and turn at the same time because it takes two keys. Luckily, the game programmers must have known this and there's a control mode that includes auto-acceleration so that you don't need to press two keys at a time. So, it would be good if the neo could play the games that already exist and only require one key at a time. I'm sure plenty exist for it to be worth while. --Steve On 7/28/07, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remember that the Neo doesn't have the buttons for games. The touchscreen > can only do one button at a time, so an external gamepad (USB or Wiimote) > would be necessary. > > Ortwin > > On 7/27/07, John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm sorry but I'm new to the openMoko system. So my question, is it > > possible to play java games, like for other mobiles, on the openMoko? I > > know, they must be compiled for it. But is it possible to play in the same, > > easy way, some java games? > > > > Thanks, > > John > > > > ___ > > OpenMoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java games for openMoko
Remember that the Neo doesn't have the buttons for games. The touchscreen can only do one button at a time, so an external gamepad (USB or Wiimote) would be necessary. Ortwin On 7/27/07, John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm sorry but I'm new to the openMoko system. So my question, is it > possible to play java games, like for other mobiles, on the openMoko? I > know, they must be compiled for it. But is it possible to play in the same, > easy way, some java games? > > Thanks, > John > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java games for openMoko
Hi, On 7/27/07, John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So my question, is it possible > to play java games, like for other mobiles, on the openMoko? Please see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage#Java -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java games for openMoko
Hello, I'm sorry but I'm new to the openMoko system. So my question, is it possible to play java games, like for other mobiles, on the openMoko? I know, they must be compiled for it. But is it possible to play in the same, easy way, some java games? Thanks, John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Java
As one data point, I have managed to run phoneME Feature via qvfb inside OpenMoko inside Xephyr on Ubuntu. Tying together this thread with the UI thread, phoneME is one "application" that would benefit greatly from having a framebuffer interface available. It is designed to render to a frame buffer. There is a QTE build, but I have not gotten that to build yet. > Ian Darwin wrote: > > ... Or, it might be > > better to do "our own" port of phoneME to OpenMoko. I don't know which > > approach is better in the long run. > Has anybody that has GTA01 hardware tried running this? No hardware here, nor have I tried it in arm emulation--but they do have a Linux ARM build target and if qvfb can be built for Linux ARM, it should work. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java
Ian Darwin wrote: ... Or, it might be better to do "our own" port of phoneME to OpenMoko. I don't know which approach is better in the long run. Err, not to mention that there are already Linux/ARM binaries of phoneME available for free (GPL) from Sun at this page: https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html Might not need any porting for basic Java ME functionality (though this is a far cry from JavaFX Mobile support!). Has anybody that has GTA01 hardware tried running this? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java (was: Re: OpenMoko - We Need HYPE, and we need it yesterday!)
please point your browsers to http://de.sun.com/ I am not sure how long it will be there - but to see is JavaFX Mobile - with a (slightly trimmed?) Neo1973 and you can see the FIC-Logo. I think the Neo _has_ some attention. The hardware in that demo is almost incidental. JavaFX Mobile is a complete alternate mobile stack based entirely on Java, and all the APIs are in Java. It has its own Linux port, based on work done by Savaaje, which Sun acquired a few months back. While this might initially position JavaFX Mobile as a direct competitor to OpenMoko, I've seen blogs in which Sun was quoted saying it would be GPL'd, so it should (might) be possible to blend them. Or, it might be better to do "our own" port of phoneME to OpenMoko. I don't know which approach is better in the long run. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: open-source Java VM for openmoko?
Scott, Thanks for the info! I personally have no preference between Java and .NET. I am also equally interested in support for ikvm on openmoko as well. There was a thread of discussion on this topic on the ikvm development email list. J2ME CDC would be just fine, but as you state J2SE would be better...and ikvm even better. That would pave the way for really strong application development! Thanks again! Bob -Original Message- From: Scott Oberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:59 AM To: Bob Deanna Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: open-source Java VM for openmoko? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is a jamvm package that is checked into the OpenEmbedded (jamvm_1.3.0-jamvm_1.4.2), so I think that it will be available soon after the release. Koen Kooi did some initial work on testing a CDC build, see the following link. Thanks Koen! I'm starting to test out building phoneme - - so that other existing J2ME phone apps can run on the openmoko. However, like yourself, I'm also more interested in full J2SE support. I'm not a Java nut case, but I think it's important to get it working on the openmoko. http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2006-December/00 1036.html Scott Bob Deanna wrote: > Hello all, > > Will a Java VM, such as JamVM (see http://jamvm.sourceforge.net/) be a > part of the openmoko software stack? > > I think this is a very exciting effort! > > Regards, > Bob > > > -- > -- > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRbjhyHuDTbCxG8PhAQKxgxAArAsJLCiH4eHmdemRde5ZrZzlBoNMXxJ+ 62L/ER7Xamynbx56X3y618+zQYfi7TJ8bDpJUKx9KWza50vCRrTRtswmv5QNGXyp cuot3MSdYA8hXRV+6ZUeZvPuerdyfHLzOrAieKkrAz8H+rwcrfRK6DgioQIDJ51z CD1+FFgH4mYNLinHMG6drBdrUurmawOW7qGKmLPMd0kk1j/cRDGGpfuezujxwHXt y43/4XyRgGaL+GV7cnvvVT2F2K7LGCZmZ1qX+FeeJmysf7cgU8UloY3iPeuHPzf5 UygRrQNDRzUTt3PotsRFMZ0j9KG5Osb8tnzSimExM+OSE+kmbLNDIp+60qbqrO7p OifYa+pG8Lds6Q+v3sROZPfnV+HbMjhey3lBHOe/LMf04O91CJg2bwdeIbuHXNOO KJ8Rb7w0ZL7jKRcytheUMeBm15qZrF8mVES1Pwajg6UoINFzc6lX3X4ISW2jnERx w0+2SPS+Sxtr4d/u3rfZ0KtRHPO6rPgLuxEHqQv2DExVLPvKmEflj43z3GvC358Z VYuuIDi2KY1S3/mI70RN3WQOnblR07wfDKd4t3dDUdjll/IcaZ7I+v6GHy7T0Z53 nm3KIScvgKXWl4JPzqq4VndUdgKBxDoRJWRj7DiY6V3VcLhDi5XQB4/j5+Rq4HBy kgpVQmo0EDo= =hOd2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: open-source Java VM for openmoko?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is a jamvm package that is checked into the OpenEmbedded (jamvm_1.3.0-jamvm_1.4.2), so I think that it will be available soon after the release. Koen Kooi did some initial work on testing a CDC build, see the following link. Thanks Koen! I'm starting to test out building phoneme - - so that other existing J2ME phone apps can run on the openmoko. However, like yourself, I'm also more interested in full J2SE support. I'm not a Java nut case, but I think it's important to get it working on the openmoko. http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2006-December/001036.html Scott Bob Deanna wrote: > Hello all, > > Will a Java VM, such as JamVM (see http://jamvm.sourceforge.net/) be a > part of the openmoko software stack? > > I think this is a very exciting effort! > > Regards, > Bob > > > > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRbjhyHuDTbCxG8PhAQKxgxAArAsJLCiH4eHmdemRde5ZrZzlBoNMXxJ+ 62L/ER7Xamynbx56X3y618+zQYfi7TJ8bDpJUKx9KWza50vCRrTRtswmv5QNGXyp cuot3MSdYA8hXRV+6ZUeZvPuerdyfHLzOrAieKkrAz8H+rwcrfRK6DgioQIDJ51z CD1+FFgH4mYNLinHMG6drBdrUurmawOW7qGKmLPMd0kk1j/cRDGGpfuezujxwHXt y43/4XyRgGaL+GV7cnvvVT2F2K7LGCZmZ1qX+FeeJmysf7cgU8UloY3iPeuHPzf5 UygRrQNDRzUTt3PotsRFMZ0j9KG5Osb8tnzSimExM+OSE+kmbLNDIp+60qbqrO7p OifYa+pG8Lds6Q+v3sROZPfnV+HbMjhey3lBHOe/LMf04O91CJg2bwdeIbuHXNOO KJ8Rb7w0ZL7jKRcytheUMeBm15qZrF8mVES1Pwajg6UoINFzc6lX3X4ISW2jnERx w0+2SPS+Sxtr4d/u3rfZ0KtRHPO6rPgLuxEHqQv2DExVLPvKmEflj43z3GvC358Z VYuuIDi2KY1S3/mI70RN3WQOnblR07wfDKd4t3dDUdjll/IcaZ7I+v6GHy7T0Z53 nm3KIScvgKXWl4JPzqq4VndUdgKBxDoRJWRj7DiY6V3VcLhDi5XQB4/j5+Rq4HBy kgpVQmo0EDo= =hOd2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
open-source Java VM for openmoko?
Hello all, Will a Java VM, such as JamVM (see http://jamvm.sourceforge.net/) be a part of the openmoko software stack? I think this is a very exciting effort! Regards, Bob ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Q1: GPS software bundled ,Q2:Java support
Jay, On Q2: The Mobile & Embedded Community (http://www.mobileandembedded.org) is keeping a close eye on OpenMoko. We definitely want to see Java ME on this device. Anybody who is interested in working on porting Java ME to OpenMoko please let me know. Btw, I believe Koen has already started some work on this, see atached. -- Terrence Jay Trister wrote: This is my first post ,so I just wanted to give a thumbs up for this original idea :) I think this mobile will start a chain reaction that will lead to a big market change.. Question 1: Will there be any software (from phase 0) that will take advantage of the AGPS? No need for maps (as long as there is a way to create them ourselves). Can you tell us which program you're planning to use ,so we can get a head start? Question 2: I know what I want might be tough , but are there any plans to implement a java API to access some of the basic functions of the phone (ringing, sms, catalogue access) ? I prefer java because its more portable (or at least more easy to port) than C++. I believe that if you allow even a basic low level access to java apps the phone lot of java developers will turn to it .It's better to have Java&C Developers than only C ;) . Keep up the good work. I think this mobile WILL revolusionize the future. Btw, the gaming-console/media-player/e-book-reader GP2X is made on a pretty much-same philosophy.Everything is open for everyone-even the source code of the firmware. And the company is giving an SDK. PS. sorry for my bad english :) 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick < http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail&#news> in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. < http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail&#news> ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community --- Begin Message --- [note about crossposting that will get ignored by people pressing reply-all, but naive as I am, I'll try anyway: this is crossposted, watch out when replying] Hi, I was getting very annoyed with all the people complaining "OMG! we need java! LOL", but doing absolutely nothing to help getting java into OE (and hence making it available to the neo1973). So I decided to actually do something: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/java/ It errors out somewhere in do_compile, probably because kaffeh isn't sun j2se (on my build machine). So if any of you want to actually help out instead of complaining, go read http://java.sun.com/javame/reference/docs/cdc_build_system.pdf, install OE and get busy! regards, Koen As sample of the output in the devshell: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/phoneme-advanced-0.0+MR2-r0/phoneme_advanced-mr2/build/linux$ make bin touch ../../build/linux--/./generated/empty.mk CVM_HOST = i686-generic-linux CVM_TARGET = linux-- SHELL = sh -e HOST_CC= /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc HOST_CCC = /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ ZIP= /usr/bin/zip CVM_JAVA = /usr/bin/java CVM_JAVAC = /usr/bin/javac CVM_JAVAH = /usr/bin/javah CVM_JAR= /usr/bin/jar TARGET_CC = /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc TARGET_CCC= /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ TARGET_AS = /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc TARGET_LD = /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc TARGET_AR = /usr/bin/ar TARGET_RANLIB = /usr/bin/ranlib LINKFLAGS = -g -Wl,-export-dynamic LINKLIBS = -lpthread -ldl -lm ASM_FLAGS = -c -fno-common -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork -mthumb CCCFLAGS = -fno-rtti CCFLAGS_SPEED = -c -fno-common -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork -mthumb -O4 CCFLAGS_SPACE = -c -fno-common -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork -mthumb -O2 CCFLAGS_LOOP = -c -fno-common -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork -mthumb -O4 -fno-inline CCFLAGS_FDLIB = -c -fno-common -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork -mthumb -O4 JAVAC_OPTIONS = -g:none -J-Xms32m -J-Xmx128m -encoding iso8859-1 -source 1.4 -target 1.4 CVM_DEFINES= -DCVM_OPTIMIZED -DCVM_DEBUG_STACKTRACES -DNDEBUG -DCVM_CLASSLOADING -DCVM_SERIALIZATION -DCVM_REFLECT -DCVM_DYNAMIC_LINKING -DCVM_TIMESTAMPING -DJ2ME_CLASSLIB=cdc -DTARGET_CPU_FAMILY= -D_GNU_SOURCE updating ../../buil
Re: Q1: GPS software bundled ,Q2:Java support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jay Trister schreef: > Btw, the gaming-console/media-player/e-book-reader GP2X is made on a > pretty much-same philosophy.Everything is open for everyone-even the > source code of the firmware. And the company is giving an SDK. Last I checked they used a huge pile of closed source kernel modules, so no, it isn't the same philosophy. regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFsg3sMkyGM64RGpERAqb/AJ4ugvL9sG6C9sjAbZVbMb7i4EYKlwCfd1WO 6R1iShpd6iyqo9ay1J8SwAQ= =mpn1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Q1: GPS software bundled ,Q2:Java support
This is my first post ,so I just wanted to give a thumbs up for this original idea :) I think this mobile will start a chain reaction that will lead to a big market change.. Question 1: Will there be any software (from phase 0) that will take advantage of the AGPS? No need for maps (as long as there is a way to create them ourselves). Can you tell us which program you're planning to use ,so we can get a head start? Question 2: I know what I want might be tough , but are there any plans to implement a java API to access some of the basic functions of the phone (ringing, sms, catalogue access) ? I prefer java because its more portable (or at least more easy to port) than C++. I believe that if you allow even a basic low level access to java apps the phone lot of java developers will turn to it .It's better to have Java&C Developers than only C ;) . Keep up the good work. I think this mobile WILL revolusionize the future. Btw, the gaming-console/media-player/e-book-reader GP2X is made on a pretty much-same philosophy.Everything is open for everyone-even the source code of the firmware. And the company is giving an SDK. PS. sorry for my bad english :) - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java GPL'ed!
On 12/29/06, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alessandro Iurlano schreef: > And it has started GPLizing from the J2ME. > So, for everyone interested it should be easy to compile it for the > OpenMoko. If it's so easy, why haven't you finished the work started here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-December/000884.html ? Because I'm not interested at all. I just wanted to point out that J2ME is now officially GPL'ed to all the people interested in Java. Yes, probably I have used a wrong word (easy), but all that I wanted was to give more license info. Regards, Alessandro ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java GPL'ed!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alessandro Iurlano schreef: > And it has started GPLizing from the J2ME. > So, for everyone interested it should be easy to compile it for the > OpenMoko. If it's so easy, why haven't you finished the work started here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-December/000884.html ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFlPPMMkyGM64RGpERAmhuAJoD/TGeo7j3Iv4ZL5zZmiAIt92rbACfT5Xo WqjaYYKD5cA04Y/AZg+ZA1M= =V4aA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java GPL'ed!
And it has started GPLizing from the J2ME. So, for everyone interested it should be easy to compile it for the OpenMoko. Here are the links: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/22/065253 https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html Regards, Alessandro ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OpenMoko] Re: Java and neo1973
Salve Stefano, *! On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Stefano Sanna wrote: > > > >Why should java be a _must_, just because it's GPL after many years? > > With some billions of devices already running Java MIDP applications, I > think any new mobile device should look with interest to it. Being GPLed > just makes easy to have a good VM implementation, because it is still > missing a good one in the open source world. Let me start with a general statement - a pyschology institut of my university (rwth-aachen) made a studies about "Evaluation of Input Devices" and "usability of mobile phones" with the result that mobile phones had become to complex. I dissagree with that point and Java MIDP is an example for it IMHO the mobile phones lakes a 100% continuous usable of the interfaces and functions. When the phone offers the function "printing" it should be possibel to print adresses, sms, emails, texfiles, wap/webpages and it should be possible to print via all interfaces the phone offeres. When the phone has Bluetooth and Java (the companies promote phones with both features) I don't want to be disspointed that it has no JSR-82 - not on the box, nor on the webpage are announced that it has Bluetooth and Java, but Java has no API to use BT. IMHO complexity is be created when a company doesn't care about good design - just supporting a few new features or even more worse, when the GSM provider doesn't like that the device can use BT or USB for filetransmission So you don't have to know about 4 Interfaces and 8 funktion = 12, you have to know about 4 * 8 = 36 combinations what is working, and how Faktor 3 of complexity due not 100% continuous developent. A GPLed Java VM will help that the APIs we like to use could be written. Second - did you used the PALM some time ago? I liked it very much that is like "screen -rx" jumping back to one application will not start it again - you could go on at the same point you left it. So it would be smart when "suspend to RAM" would work with Java as well. And to go ahead: maybe someone would like to hack this: Linux vserver make it possible to migrate from one host server to another. AFAIK you have to shut your vserver down - but it could be also maybe possible to have "suspend to HD", to migrate then and to wake up with the same process still running... Maybe someone would like to interup this java application on his mobile and migrate this to another machine (his PC, a Server...) and go on with his application at the same point he stopped - without the need to modificated the java applet to do this. Suns decision to GPLed java makes java more interesting for open source developer - the development of new APIs is now more open and so the Neo1973 will be more attractive for all who whant to develop Mobile Java application. And the more open source developers working with the Neo1973 the more the Neo1973 becomes attractive for even more developers - so suns decision is definitive good for the Neo1973/Openmoko project ;) Cheers, rob PS: BTW Palm - sorry no Java topic, so a OT, but IMHO is the most amaizing hack for a Palm the megawiki hack: http://www.geocities.com/ddvteach/MegaWiki.html manual: http://www.geocities.com/ddvteach/Manual.html Tapping on special formated words in any other application makes possible to access data with other application. E.g. tapping on OpenMoko will link to the Memo OpenMoko (or the editor of your choose with the card/file OpenMoko) *:RobertMichel: would be the link to the Adressbook with entry of my adress Such a hack that a wikiwiki syntax could be used with different applications could be very interesting for OpenMoko, but maybe for Java-Applications as well ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java and neo1973
Hello. On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 06:38, Stefano Sanna wrote: > Java and miss native capabilities of device. However, if you plan to > have the same application running on two (very) different platforms > (Symbian and EZX, for instance) you will have to double effort or switch > to Java. We are looking forward to OpenMoko on EZX phones somewhere in 2007. :) regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java and neo1973
Hi. Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello. You are definitively right. It is an option, but having Java compatibility may present neo1973 more attractive for mass market. For instance, there are lot of ready-to-run applications for RSS reading, email, games, mapping and so on. Maybe it would be easier to port the VM instead of writing from scratch all the software already available for Java ME. But write them from scratch or port native linux apps makes the software better. ;) SCNR :-D I see that there are billions of java midlets with nice GUI and closed code. And I see that the mass market like to use them. Not only: industry recognizes Java as the fastest way to deploy services on mobile devices. Google, for instance, provides its gmail client con JME devices: it is easier than providing a client for WM5, EZX, Maemo, PalmOS and so on. My point is that we have the chance here to do it _right_. Absolutely! In my eyes Java midlets are only a workaround while you can't write native applications for your phone. Yes and no. I mean: if you have to write an application that has to run in just one (well identified) device, I think there is no reason to use Java and miss native capabilities of device. However, if you plan to have the same application running on two (very) different platforms (Symbian and EZX, for instance) you will have to double effort or switch to Java. Don't get me wrong, I _know_ somebody will make a JavaVM available for OpenMoko and I _know_ that people will run there midlets on it. That's fine with me. :-) But personally unhappy with the performance, code quality and closed source of the java midlets I've seen. Performances are getting better, code quality is in our hands. Anyway, I would be happy to see Java on neo1973 and I would be happy to contribute to it. ;-) Regards, Stefano. -- Stefano Sanna - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal web site: http://www.gerdavax.it AIM: gerdavax - Skype: gerdavax - Callsign: IS0DZE Fratelli D'Etails Gerda: "Mi hanno contattato per avere idee nuove..." Dada: "... e le vanno a chiedere proprio a te???" ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java and neo1973
Hello. On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 00:19, Stefano Sanna wrote: > > Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > >It is an option not a must. > > You are definitively right. It is an option, but having Java > compatibility may present neo1973 more attractive for mass market. For > instance, there are lot of ready-to-run applications for RSS reading, > email, games, mapping and so on. Maybe it would be easier to port the VM > instead of writing from scratch all the software already available for > Java ME. But write them from scratch or port native linux apps makes the software better. ;) SCNR I see that there are billions of java midlets with nice GUI and closed code. And I see that the mass market like to use them. My point is that we have the chance here to do it _right_. In my eyes Java midlets are only a workaround while you can't write native applications for your phone. Don't get me wrong, I _know_ somebody will make a JavaVM available for OpenMoko and I _know_ that people will run there midlets on it. That's fine with me. But personally unhappy with the performance, code quality and closed source of the java midlets I've seen. regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java and neo1973
Hello, I definitely agree that Java will help to make the Neo1973 far more appealing to a mass-market. I would be willing to help in development of JavaME for the Neo1973. __ Donnie Stefano Sanna wrote: Hi. Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello. On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 00:03, Stefano Sanna wrote: What a nice coincidence: neo1973 is arriving full open and Java is moving towards open source. I believe that Java on the neo1973 is a must, in order to support the large market of existing mobile devices. Why should java be a _must_, just because it's GPL after many years? With some billions of devices already running Java MIDP applications, I think any new mobile device should look with interest to it. Being GPLed just makes easy to have a good VM implementation, because it is still missing a good one in the open source world. It is an option not a must. You are definitively right. It is an option, but having Java compatibility may present neo1973 more attractive for mass market. For instance, there are lot of ready-to-run applications for RSS reading, email, games, mapping and so on. Maybe it would be easier to port the VM instead of writing from scratch all the software already available for Java ME. But I'm sure we will see java in openembedded until january. This makes it pretty easy for java lovers to install it. Excellent! Regards, Stefano. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java and neo1973
Hi. Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello. On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 00:03, Stefano Sanna wrote: What a nice coincidence: neo1973 is arriving full open and Java is moving towards open source. I believe that Java on the neo1973 is a must, in order to support the large market of existing mobile devices. Why should java be a _must_, just because it's GPL after many years? With some billions of devices already running Java MIDP applications, I think any new mobile device should look with interest to it. Being GPLed just makes easy to have a good VM implementation, because it is still missing a good one in the open source world. It is an option not a must. You are definitively right. It is an option, but having Java compatibility may present neo1973 more attractive for mass market. For instance, there are lot of ready-to-run applications for RSS reading, email, games, mapping and so on. Maybe it would be easier to port the VM instead of writing from scratch all the software already available for Java ME. But I'm sure we will see java in openembedded until january. This makes it pretty easy for java lovers to install it. Excellent! Regards, Stefano. -- Stefano Sanna - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal web site: http://www.gerdavax.it AIM: gerdavax - Skype: gerdavax - Callsign: IS0DZE Fratelli D'Etails Gerda: "Mi hanno contattato per avere idee nuove..." Dada: "... e le vanno a chiedere proprio a te???" ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
